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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 9:29:00 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget
Appleton now says he hasn't got one.
How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking.
Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's.
I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk.
Legend status can drop very quickly in football
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 12, 2017 9:35:24 GMT
Careful now.
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Post by timlane on Jun 12, 2017 9:44:40 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football For pity's sake, take a chill pill. And for one day, one day is all I ask, can you please desist from commenting on every subject on this forum. It's extraordinary tedious.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 9:48:28 GMT
Just think we are at a massive turning point. That could potentially go either way.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jun 12, 2017 9:48:59 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football For pity's sake, take a chill pill. And for one day, one day is all I ask, can you please desist from commenting on every subject on this forum. It's extraordinary tedious. You can block oufcyellows' posts if you want to, Tim. Meanwhile, I think he raises some interesting points that I imagine all but any ostriches on here were thinking about themselves.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 9:49:15 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football For pity's sake, take a chill pill. And for one day, one day is all I ask, can you please desist from commenting on every subject on this forum. It's extraordinary tedious. I'm perfectly chilled thanks. And normally very positive of these sort of things. Something just doesn't seem right at the min.
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Post by Mark on Jun 12, 2017 9:54:37 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 12, 2017 9:59:15 GMT
It's a quote from Apples "“We won’t have a recruitment budget of the size the top-six clubs in this league will have, but hopefully what we will have is people in place who are trying to stay one step ahead." and it's here.
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Post by horseman on Jun 12, 2017 10:02:47 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football Perhaps you would care to enlighten us on that one mate...You seem to be taking alot of swipes at our chairman of late and i would love to know what you believe these interests are and exactly what it is our chairman can benefit from?. Perhaps further you would advise then why he didn't take the Sartori money and run?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:04:39 GMT
Is there s all coming about because JS has pulled the plug
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Post by horseman on Jun 12, 2017 10:05:30 GMT
surely the reference is to recruitment staff, "to enable us to stay one step ahead"
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Post by arthur on Jun 12, 2017 10:06:05 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football the article clearly talking about the recruitment side of the budget, not playing budget, you've got your wires crossed, again
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 10:06:59 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football Perhaps you would care to enlighten us on that one mate...You seem to be taking alot of swipes at our chairman of late and i would love to know what you believe these interests are and exactly what it is our chairman can benefit from?. Perhaps further you would advise then why he didn't take the Sartori money and run? His words mate. That's all I would like some clarity on, I don't know why he didn't take the money and run, but when u say it was in the best interests of the club it's not unreasonable to wonder in what way , is it? Especially when he has previously talked about not being able to sustain us, and it not being possible without a stadium. Then u wake up to the manage saying the budget probably isn't what what promised . Just sent the alarm bells ringing. Again I would be as happy as anyone if there is nothing to worry about and Darryl can take us up again. Just seems to be a lot of unanswered questions at the min.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 10:08:41 GMT
Darryl raised season ticket prices justifying it to give us the best chance of promotion and later saying it would be a top 6 budget Appleton now says he hasn't got one. How is it in the interests of oufc for a sale not to happen to Js who promised a promotion budget, a deal with Kassam for better terms and would also have invested heavily in academy.? It looks like Darryl hasn't now given us top 6 budget, nobody runs our academy still and we can't get a deal done with fk ever as they are not even bloody talking. Starting to sound like it's a lot more in Darryls interests than Oufc's. I pray to god that this pissing about and contradiction doesn't make mapp walk. Legend status can drop very quickly in football the article clearly talking about the recruitment side of the budget, not playing budget, you've got your wires crossed, again Possibly but he says recruitment budget not transfer budget. And generally when I'm told something u have "heard" it tends to be a few months after I've "heard it". So maybe just maybe things are not all as they seem, it's just you have yet to hear it
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Post by horseman on Jun 12, 2017 10:10:03 GMT
Perhaps you would care to enlighten us on that one mate...You seem to be taking alot of swipes at our chairman of late and i would love to know what you believe these interests are and exactly what it is our chairman can benefit from?. Perhaps further you would advise then why he didn't take the Sartori money and run? His words mate. That's all I would like some clarity on, I don't know why he didn't take the money and run, but when u say it was in the best interests of the club it's not unreasonable to wonder in what way , is it? Especially when he has previously talked about not being able to sustain us, and it not being possible without a stadium. Then u wake up to the manage saying the budget probably isn't what what promised . Just sent the alarm bells ringing. Again I would be as happy as anyone if there is nothing to worry about and Darryl can take us up again. Just seems to be a lot of unanswered questions at the min. You didn't answer how the chairman benefits? and as has been mentioned in the other thread and here by 1 or 2 already the article is surely about recruitment staff yes?
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Post by myles on Jun 12, 2017 10:13:45 GMT
The thing is Mark, as with a lot of so-called "Fake News", a lot of people believe it. You only need take a cursory look over this forum from the last couple of weeks and you will see plenty of people who are clearly of the belief that Darryl has said he will be providing a "top six" budget. I've certainly pointed out on a number of occasions that Darryl's comment was loaded with caveats to dispel this. But coming off the back of some fairly hefty season ticket raises (for the second year running), and the use of some fairly abstruse language, that's not an unreasonable position for people to take. But the "what is going on here?" question is certainly valid. Setting aside the issue of season ticket rises being sold on the basis of an increased playing budget, and a serious tilt at promotion, we also had the news last week that Darryl pulled out (at the eleventh hour) of a deal which, on the face of it, would have seen a significant injection of funds into the club - not just for the first team, but for the Academy system too. So, for MApp to now feel the need to go public to clarify that he doesn't in fact have the resources of the top six suggests that he may be feeling slightly hamstrung. As myself and others have rightly said over the past few days, it's absolutely down to Darryl to decide who he sells his shares to and for how much. But if he's certain that withdrawing from the Sartori deal is in the "best interests of the football club", then he has to absolutely deliver in the key areas which would've been boosted - the first team budget, the Academy set up, and progress with a solution to the stadium situation. Treading water this season would barely be acceptable, even without the potential of a lucrative takeover, so if come October we're bumbling along in 10th position people will rightly be wondering what might have been.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:14:01 GMT
After the JS talks all of sudden there seems to be alarm bells ringing in certain quarters. I was led to believe a month or so ago that we were to have a top 6 budget (wages). But is this all changing now? And if so why?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 10:18:09 GMT
His words mate. That's all I would like some clarity on, I don't know why he didn't take the money and run, but when u say it was in the best interests of the club it's not unreasonable to wonder in what way , is it? Especially when he has previously talked about not being able to sustain us, and it not being possible without a stadium. Then u wake up to the manage saying the budget probably isn't what what promised . Just sent the alarm bells ringing. Again I would be as happy as anyone if there is nothing to worry about and Darryl can take us up again. Just seems to be a lot of unanswered questions at the min. You didn't answer how the chairman benefits? and as has been mentioned in the other thread and here by 1 or 2 already the article is surely about recruitment staff yes? I don't know how he benefits that's why I'm asking the questions. As if it's not in the best interests of the club. Why ?
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Post by makv on Jun 12, 2017 10:28:27 GMT
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Post by horseman on Jun 12, 2017 10:36:31 GMT
You didn't answer how the chairman benefits? and as has been mentioned in the other thread and here by 1 or 2 already the article is surely about recruitment staff yes? I don't know how he benefits that's why I'm asking the questions. As if it's not in the best interests of the club. Why ? There you go again in your initial post you stated it seems it's more in De interests than the clubs but now you say you don't know how he benfits which with respect suggests you didn't think it through before stating your belief.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:38:35 GMT
I must have misread was a few weeks back mind you in the Oxford Mail. But we will see personally can't see us competing this year with all the Polava that's going on.
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Post by myles on Jun 12, 2017 10:40:47 GMT
Sorry, but I disagree. Who has ever heard a manager talk about their scouting and recruitment network in terms of their "recruitment budget"?! Let's look at the full quote: It's fairly clear that what is being said here is: a) other clubs have picked up on what we've been doing; b) we don't have the financial resources to compete if they are after the same players; c) as a result we have to refine what we're doing and be a bit smarter.
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Post by makv on Jun 12, 2017 10:40:59 GMT
I must have misread was a few weeks back mind you in the Oxford Mail. But we will see personally can't see us competing this year with all the Polava that's going on. You're still missing the point! The quote above is from Appleton today, which you would know if you could actually be bothered to read the article. DE did indeed say was hoping we would have a top 6 playing budget.
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Post by Mark on Jun 12, 2017 10:41:03 GMT
The thing is Mark, as with a lot of so-called "Fake News", a lot of people believe it. You only need take a cursory look over this forum from the last couple of weeks and you will see plenty of people who are clearly of the belief that Darryl has said he will be providing a "top six" budget. I've certainly pointed out on a number of occasions that Darryl's comment was loaded with caveats to dispel this. But coming off the back of some fairly hefty season ticket raises (for the second year running), and the use of some fairly abstruse language, that's not an unreasonable position for people to take. But the "what is going on here?" question is certainly valid. Setting aside the issue of season ticket rises being sold on the basis of an increased playing budget, and a serious tilt at promotion, we also had the news last week that Darryl pulled out (at the eleventh hour) of a deal which, on the face of it, would have seen a significant injection of funds into the club - not just for the first team, but for the Academy system too. So, for MApp to now feel the need to go public to clarify that he doesn't in fact have the resources of the top six suggests that he may be feeling slightly hamstrung. As myself and others have rightly said over the past few days, it's absolutely down to Darryl to decide who he sells his shares to and for how much. But if he's certain that withdrawing from the Sartori deal is in the "best interests of the football club", then he has to absolutely deliver in the key areas which would've been boosted - the first team budget, the Academy set up, and progress with a solution to the stadium situation. Treading water this season would barely be acceptable, even without the potential of a lucrative takeover, so if come October we're bumbling along in 10th position people will rightly be wondering what might have been. I agree that you have to read these quotes very carefully rather than making your own interpretation of them. Anyway, I don't know what the reasons for the Sartori deal breaking down were. "I have to do what I believe is right for Oxford United Football Club. " said Eales, so you have to wonder what he thought was not right about the Sartori deal.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:41:54 GMT
I must have misread was a few weeks back mind you in the Oxford Mail. But we will see personally can't see us competing this year with all the Polava that's going on. You're still missing the point! The quote above is from Appleton today, which you would know if you could actually be bothered to read the article. DE did indeed say was hoping we would have a top 6 playing budget. I haven't read the Oxford mail YET and you link won't open
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Post by myles on Jun 12, 2017 10:43:08 GMT
"I have to do what I believe is right for Oxford United Football Club. " said Eales, so you have to wonder what he thought was not right about the Sartori deal. Or, perhaps, you have to wonder what he thought was so right about the deal that he allowed due diligence to take place and THEN decide the deal wasn't right....
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Post by stevewilliams on Jun 12, 2017 10:43:55 GMT
fake news my arse. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39846008this is fast becoming an f'n joke. ive said for months eales has run out of money and is cutting costs we still dont have an md or head of academy and hes yoinked up season ticket and match prices by a huge amount over past 18 months. this time spouting what now seems complete bollocks that its done to give us a top budget. no wonder season ticket deadline has been extended after kids and families were hit hard in the pocket with price rises. so basically darryl has promised something and the manager has had the balls to come out and say it aint true about are budget. we have clearly cut costs at academy. hes raised prices of tickets but still cant have top 6 budget we was promised. how the f**k was it in anyone but eales interest to turn down the satori bid? from what i can see heres the situation eales run oufc: cant get stadium deal done as kassam hates him and wont do a deal nobody in charge of our academy promises top 6 budge but manager says this aint the case season tickets and match ticket prices have had big increases in past 18 months attacks oxvox over stadium as he cant get it done - not their job!!!! says no deal with satori but turns out due dilligence appened so clearly he did accept and then changed his mind - why? no training ground satori run oufc: promotion budget agreement with kassam over stadium invest in academy finds to target premiership links to monaco - french champions and champion league semi finalists ffs! for all we know satori could have been talking bollocks but why would he want to get involved if he couldnt do a deal on ground or cut budgets. what we do know is eales has said one thing and done another...fact! so someone tell me how the f**k its in oufc interest that darryl stays? Cant get a stadium deal done or offer a top league 1 budget but yet satori says he can! eales if you really have oufc at heart pick up the phone and rescue that deal with satori. you clearly cant take us forward unless you get lucky. all talk and no substance mate. clearly the reason you didnt sell was because you felt you could do better. dont give us this crap that it was in oufcoufc interests you not selling. no wonder theres been no annoucnement about ticket sales and the deadline has been extended what has happened to encourage people to buy one for much more money?! i for one aint renewed.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:45:17 GMT
I must have misread was a few weeks back mind you in the Oxford Mail. But we will see personally can't see us competing this year with all the Polava that's going on. You're still missing the point! The quote above is from Appleton today, which you would know if you could actually be bothered to read the article. DE did indeed say was hoping we would have a top 6 playing budget. Well not a top six budget but MAPP is away this month and DE is not looking at JS to take over so no investment maybe that's why we haven't got a top 6 budget, but with the teams we n L1 next season and not having a top 6 budget I just hope MAPP can find some young talent when are free and can compete moete because as I've said we ont be able to compete this coming season
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Post by makv on Jun 12, 2017 10:46:27 GMT
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 10:55:09 GMT
That's fair comment the manager saying we won't have a budget like the top 6 clubs which he is being honest but, WTF did DE come out and say we would have a top 6 budget to compete for promotion or has he run short of money and realises he can't afford promotion, and that's not been unheard of
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