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Post by makv on Jun 12, 2017 10:58:08 GMT
That's fair comment the manager saying we won't have a budget like the top 6 clubs which he is being honest but, WTF did DE come out and say we would have a top 6 budget to compete for promotion or has he run short of money and realises he can't afford promotion, and that's not been unheard of That's not how I read Appleton's comment. I don't think he's referring to the money he has for players, but the money he has for the recruitment process.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jun 12, 2017 11:02:28 GMT
That's fair comment the manager saying we won't have a budget like the top 6 clubs which he is being honest but, WTF did DE come out and say we would have a top 6 budget to compete for promotion or has he run short of money and realises he can't afford promotion, and that's not been unheard of That's not how I read Appleton's comment. I don't think he's referring to the money he has for players, but the money he has for the recruitment process. Money for recruitment so where will the wages come from, sorry I'm not being critical of your comments just would like to know what's going on as I'm sure do most Oxford fans. We had a very rich man prepared to take us on and make us successful as I'm sure DE wants as well but has he the investment it's starting to get to the murky waters stage.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 12, 2017 11:04:40 GMT
I rather imagine he could sign off expenses for scouts to go to Norway out of the transfer budget. IMO he's talking about transfers, who would care about a budget for scouts?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 11:07:07 GMT
That's all I'm asking, people taking my opening post in not the way it was meant.
Just the statement that a bloke offering major investment in all areas, above and beyond what Darryl has himself stated he can afford , is not in the best interests of oufc. That's a massive statement and should be clarified as to why. If not it just piles even more pressure on himself to deliver. Again I would be more than happy for Darryl to take us to the promised land.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jun 12, 2017 12:02:25 GMT
MApp is clearly talking about the budget the club has to spend on scouting and sourcing players. Teams like Wigan can afford to have a world wide network of scouts and a large number scouts going to games all over the country every week. A club our size will use a computer software that allows you to scout players all over the world rather than actually have people go to games in person.
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Post by stevewilliams on Jun 12, 2017 12:05:48 GMT
your in dreamland pal hes talking about the recruitment budget which means playing budget. we also dont use software we have a scouting department and head of recuritment which is more than 90% of other clubs at this level. god people refuse to realise that our club is getting costs cut everywhere and prices go up and up but its all ok as good old ealesy bought me a pint at an away game. f'n mugs.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 12:11:50 GMT
That's fair enough though steve, like I said before if you haven't heard anything or don't want to put the pieces together then I'm sure any criticism of a chairman who has achieved what Darryl has looks pretty out of order. I've been there defending fk, defending il despite the cuts that saw no manager appointed for weeks on end or any new players coming in as he was selling up. And eventually I was proved wrong, and the people who were asking those questions were right and doing so in the best interests of the club.
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Post by Barts on Jun 12, 2017 12:18:07 GMT
I'm still loving the way people who may spend a few hundred pound a year on oufc are trying to tell a man who has spent upwards of £9million on oufc how to spend his money.
He's NEVER said we'd have a top six budget. He said he'd like to THINK we'd have a top six budget.
People are living on JS's every word about what he would have done, had he gained control. Would he have done as he's said he'd have done? As it stands, we'll never know. He seemed very open and honest so I'd like to believe he would have, but the simple fact is we don't know.
As far as DE is concerned, so far he has delivered everything he said he would. He later realised he needs to buy the ground, but kassam won't sell it too him, because of the court case.
IMO people are getting on DE's back because of our history of owners, not because of DE himself.
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money?
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jun 12, 2017 12:20:09 GMT
your in dreamland pal hes talking about the recruitment budget which means playing budget. we also dont use software we have a scouting department and head of recuritment which is more than 90% of other clubs at this level. god people refuse to realise that our club is getting costs cut everywhere and prices go up and up but its all ok as good old ealesy bought me a pint at an away game. f'n mugs. Yes we do have a recruitment departing which will have a budget which is used for scouts etc. This is the budget that MApp eludes too.
Yes we do use software to help with scouting players as it allows our head of recruitment to sift through a lot of players in a short space of time. The software will also allow the staff to look at a specific aspect of a players play such as a striker's hold up play, how good a defending is at defending corners, a wingers crossing ability. It will also be able to show the staff a player's stats over a set period of time.
We will have a network of scouts but certainly not as extensive as a club such as Wigan and Blackburn have.
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Post by oxfordboy on Jun 12, 2017 12:30:01 GMT
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? Not that I necessarily see it this way, just answering your question, but he's put a big increase on season tickets, and just before most have renewed he says he wants our budget to be around top 6, many (including me) buy their season ticket, and then we sign only 2 players over several weeks, and then the manager comments at only getting a few more in, seemingly going against having anywhere near a top 6 budget So if he's been dishonest with the people he relies on to pay their hard earned money to support the team then I think we should at least be able to question him and his motives
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Post by Pete Burrett on Jun 12, 2017 12:39:00 GMT
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? Fans don't have a right to tell Mr Eales how to spend his money, Barts. First, there's a difference between saying 'we need a forward (for example)', which is entirely accurate, and saying 'Eales needs to stick his hand in his pocket and buy us a million pound forward', which is presumptuous. Mr Eales owns the club, he can spend as much or as little as he wants on it. But second, MOST fans on here are asking how Mr Eales intends to take us forward. And that's a very reasonable question for any fan to ask. He's ditched an injection of cash from Sartori as it 'wasn't in the best interests of OUFC'. He's made his own financial limitations clear over the months. It now appears Mr Appleton will have to scour an ever-diminishing pool for talent. Let's hear what the club's reasonable expectations are for 2017/18. Let's have some honesty. If we can expect little, tell us.
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Post by m on Jun 12, 2017 12:39:14 GMT
So are we spending the £350M on the NHS or not?
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Post by lukehudson on Jun 12, 2017 12:40:25 GMT
your in dreamland pal hes talking about the recruitment budget which means playing budget. we also dont use software we have a scouting department and head of recuritment which is more than 90% of other clubs at this level. god people refuse to realise that our club is getting costs cut everywhere and prices go up and up but its all ok as good old ealesy bought me a pint at an away game. f'n mugs. i believe we actually use www.instatfootball.com/ as we are listed as a client.
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Post by myles on Jun 12, 2017 12:50:22 GMT
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? Not that I necessarily see it this way, just answering your question, but he's put a big increase on season tickets, and just before most have renewed he says he wants our budget to be around top 6, many (including me) buy their season ticket, and then we sign only 2 players over several weeks, and then the manager comments at only getting a few more in, seemingly going against having anywhere near a top 6 budget So if he's been dishonest with the people he relies on to pay their hard earned money to support the team then I think we should at least be able to question him and his motives THIS. THIS. THIS. Let's replace the word "fans" with "paying customers". And if you've hiked your prices by 40% or so in two years on the basis of an improved product, those customers do have the right to wonder if they have been sold something under false pretences when the proposed improvement aren't readily apparent. And this "What gives any fan the right...." line is one small step away from saying that clubs' owners shouldn't be questioned or criticised at all. And it's not about showing a lack of appreciation for what has gone before; it is, quite rightly, asking what is going on in the here and now. Karl Oyston used to be reasonably popular with Blackpool fans, and the Oyston family have certainly spent many millions on Blackpool. Does that mean Blackpool fans have no right to voice their disapproval? Of course not!
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jun 12, 2017 12:53:08 GMT
Perhaps the context about where the club will go fishing is what part of the budget will be used in that pond. Marv was an utter bargain last season and I can see why clubs are now looking to replicate that.
If we can get a Marv equivalent from Sweden for 50k, or pay 150k in Scotland, then why spend more money? It's the smartest way to get the most out of the budget
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Post by myles on Jun 12, 2017 12:55:56 GMT
your in dreamland pal hes talking about the recruitment budget which means playing budget. we also dont use software we have a scouting department and head of recuritment which is more than 90% of other clubs at this level. god people refuse to realise that our club is getting costs cut everywhere and prices go up and up but its all ok as good old ealesy bought me a pint at an away game. f'n mugs. Yes we do have a recruitment departing which will have a budget which is used for scouts etc. This is the budget that MApp eludes too.
Yes we do use software to help with scouting players as it allows our head of recruitment to sift through a lot of players in a short space of time. The software will also allow the staff to look at a specific aspect of a players play such as a striker's hold up play, how good a defending is at defending corners, a wingers crossing ability. It will also be able to show the staff a player's stats over a set period of time.
We will have a network of scouts but certainly not as extensive as a club such as Wigan and Blackburn have.
Wigan no longer have Premier League parachute payments. As a result, their turnover is actually likely to be smaller than ours - certainly based on the past couple of years' accounts.
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Post by foley on Jun 12, 2017 13:02:01 GMT
We will have a network of scouts but certainly not as extensive as a club such as Wigan and Blackburn have.
Wigan no longer have Premier League parachute payments. As a result, their turnover is actually likely to be smaller than ours - certainly based on the past couple of years' accounts. It does surprise me but I have heard that Wigan have a significantly bigger budget than we have. They appear to have paid Dunkley a lot more than we have (one assumes). I am not sure how true that story is, but if true I guess that significant funding is coming from the Whelan family still? I believe also that Wigan own their ground and lease it out to wigan Rugby League team?
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 12, 2017 13:20:16 GMT
I'm still loving the way people who may spend a few hundred pound a year on oufc are trying to tell a man who has spent upwards of £9million on oufc how to spend his money. He's NEVER said we'd have a top six budget. He said he'd like to THINK we'd have a top six budget. People are living on JS's every word about what he would have done, had he gained control. Would he have done as he's said he'd have done? As it stands, we'll never know. He seemed very open and honest so I'd like to believe he would have, but the simple fact is we don't know. As far as DE is concerned, so far he has delivered everything he said he would. He later realised he needs to buy the ground, but kassam won't sell it too him, because of the court case. IMO people are getting on DE's back because of our history of owners, not because of DE himself. Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? I agree with this apart from the last point. Fans have the right to question but some of this current stuff is getting ridiculous.
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Post by stevewilliams on Jun 12, 2017 13:34:42 GMT
owners come and go fans are here always. we have no direction or vision off the pitch at present and an owner who keeps making differing statements on many things ground, budgets, training ground, academy and he and his board are quick to slam oxvox. any time you question him your instantly attacked on here. hes made clear comments saying you pay more and youll have a top six budget and now this has been disproved. hes said there was no offer from satori and then it turns out he was in due diligence. the point here is eales cant get a ground deal done and cant/wont give us a top 6 budget and keeps putting prices up. so he needs to explain why he accepted an offer and then backed away from a person who has clearly come out and says he can do these things. how the f**k is it in oufc interests for him to not sell when we have a person wanting to do things eales cant? ?
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Post by oxfordmitch on Jun 12, 2017 13:47:03 GMT
I think the fact we were even talking about having a top 6 budget needs to be questioned. Just look at the teams in this league. At this level, attendances plays a massive part in a clubs budget (obviously a n extended cup run can do you a favour). Blackburn, Bradford, Rotherham, Plymouth, Pompey, Wigan plus the likes of MK, Rovers and Charlton always indicated to me that we would be lucky to be top 8.
Hand in hand with this, comes an air of arrogance I now see amongst some posters. Ive generally always thought our fans have a decent sense of perspective but now we've had a bit of success, its almost like some are demanding it. Perhaps I'm reading some posts in the wrong light though.
DE always said success is measured by progress, which I would say we have consistently done. There have been a few hiccups and we are not a perfect club, but how far we have come under DE and MAPP makes me immensely proud and to see some fans now slating DE because of subjective comments about having a top 6 budget is actually a bit sad. We're all Oxford after all.
I also don't buy an ST on what players come in, whoever we sign wouldn't impact on me turning up to as many OUFC games as possible. The rise in prices was fair (generally) and most would agree on that. Ultimately the budget is gonna stretch to a bit more than Raglan and Shearer.
Were a joy to watch, we have good people running and managing our club who have genuine ambition and have put a lot in progressing the club we love. Can we all just wait calm down and stop trying to blame DE for minor things, which are subjective.
Anyway, were about to get the new Zlatan from Scandanavia.
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Post by tbfuth14 on Jun 12, 2017 13:48:18 GMT
MAPP's quote is referring to our playing budget not being close to the top 6 clubs in League 1. And that our scouting setup, which has proven very successful recently, is what we're using to keep up with those top 6 clubs with much higher budgets than us. People are seeing the word "recruitment" and desperately trying to pedal that as our scouting system rather than the playing budget. The playing budget which Mr Free Hot Dog has alluded to being top 6, but thou shalt not disbelieve the messiah!
Our scouting system has been fantastic, and that combination with MAPP has been the main reason to our success recently. MAPPs slid that quote in to hint at fans that expectations shouldn't be top 6, and rightly so. Opening up the rumour mill once more, I've heard our playing budget is actually 200k down from last season, unless we sell one of our prize assets.
Edit: I think it's clear from the clubs in League 1 this season our budget would be nowhere near the top 6, and these quotes from Eales recently have been incredibly misleading. We now have a big chunk of the fanbase that believe we have a top 6 budget and that playoffs should be minimum expectation this season, I think that's incredibly unfair on MAPP. Reasons behind saying it? I reckon he's done it to take the pressure off himself and put it onto MAPP for not delivering a top 6 finish, and I also believe that's exactly why MAPPs slid that quote into the OM interview.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 12, 2017 14:03:14 GMT
MAPP's quote is referring to our playing budget not being close to the top 6 clubs in League 1. And that our scouting setup, which has proven very successful recently, is what we're using to keep up with those top 6 clubs with much higher budgets than us. People are seeing the word "recruitment" and desperately trying to pedal that as our scouting system rather than the playing budget. The playing budget which Mr Free Hot Dog has alluded to being top 6, but thou shalt not disbelieve the messiah! Our scouting system has been fantastic, and that combination with MAPP has been the main reason to our success recently. MAPPs slid that quote in to hint at fans that expectations shouldn't be top 6, and rightly so. Opening up the rumour mill once more, I've heard our playing budget is actually 200k down from last season, unless we sell one of our prize assets. Edit: I think it's clear from the clubs in League 1 this season our budget would be nowhere near the top 6, and these quotes from Eales recently have been incredibly misleading. We now have a big chunk of the fanbase that believe we have a top 6 budget and that playoffs should be minimum expectation this season, I think that's incredibly unfair on MAPP. Reasons behind saying it? I reckon he's done it to take the pressure off himself and put it onto MAPP for not delivering a top 6 finish, and I also believe that's exactly why MAPPs slid that quote into the OM interview. On a separate note, and again not to have a go him, but did he hold the meeting with the ultras you were promised about having you're own area ?
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Post by tbfuth14 on Jun 12, 2017 14:20:38 GMT
MAPP's quote is referring to our playing budget not being close to the top 6 clubs in League 1. And that our scouting setup, which has proven very successful recently, is what we're using to keep up with those top 6 clubs with much higher budgets than us. People are seeing the word "recruitment" and desperately trying to pedal that as our scouting system rather than the playing budget. The playing budget which Mr Free Hot Dog has alluded to being top 6, but thou shalt not disbelieve the messiah! Our scouting system has been fantastic, and that combination with MAPP has been the main reason to our success recently. MAPPs slid that quote in to hint at fans that expectations shouldn't be top 6, and rightly so. Opening up the rumour mill once more, I've heard our playing budget is actually 200k down from last season, unless we sell one of our prize assets. Edit: I think it's clear from the clubs in League 1 this season our budget would be nowhere near the top 6, and these quotes from Eales recently have been incredibly misleading. We now have a big chunk of the fanbase that believe we have a top 6 budget and that playoffs should be minimum expectation this season, I think that's incredibly unfair on MAPP. Reasons behind saying it? I reckon he's done it to take the pressure off himself and put it onto MAPP for not delivering a top 6 finish, and I also believe that's exactly why MAPPs slid that quote into the OM interview. On a separate note, and again not to have a go him, but did he hold the meeting with the ultras you were promised about having you're own area ? The new SO was willing to discuss it, but tbf it's something that needs to be planned over a whole season, there's not enough time in the summer due to ST's going on sale quickly. Something for the future I guess!
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Post by Yellow River on Jun 12, 2017 14:41:09 GMT
As has been said a top six budget was never promised, DE said he would like to think we'd have a top six budget, or words to that affect.
I think a top six budget is entirely dependent on selling one of our main assets.
If Johnson is sold for 2 million this summer then MAPP gets his top six budget. That's how I see it anyway.
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Post by headingtonutd on Jun 12, 2017 15:20:27 GMT
owners come and go fans are here always. we have no direction or vision off the pitch at present and an owner who keeps making differing statements on many things ground, budgets, training ground, academy and he and his board are quick to slam oxvox. any time you question him your instantly attacked on here. hes made clear comments saying you pay more and youll have a top six budget and now this has been disproved. hes said there was no offer from satori and then it turns out he was in due diligence. the point here is eales cant get a ground deal done and cant/wont give us a top 6 budget and keeps putting prices up. so he needs to explain why he accepted an offer and then backed away from a person who has clearly come out and says he can do these things. how the f**k is it in oufc interests for him to not sell when we have a person wanting to do things eales cant? ? I understand the frustration building up but a few of the things being quoted as fact are just not. Yes DE mentioned he'd hope to have us a top six budget but given he doesn't control other budgets in the league, if it ended up being top eight would it be so bad? Also look where the money may be going, we could be spending less on the outright transfer budget but more on recruiting or academy which could (and has) bear fruit. Also it's being quoted repeatedly that there is not the budget available but we really don't know that yet do we? Last time I checked the end of the transfer window was some way off. Is it sensible to keep trumpeting how much you have to spend before you start negotiating for players? I'm not saying everything is rosey or that patience is boundless but so far during his tenure DE has managed to give Mapps the time (let's not forget how many were baying for his blood in the first season) and resources to take us from dour football, poor scouting and academy just on the mend while sitting in mid table L2 mediocrity to two wembley finals, promotion to L1 and damn nearly into the play off's in a first season this high in years. All of this in a timeframe none of us would have believed when he arrived. I happen to think if we'd have put less into the Wembley push this year we may have made the play offs. This is his record to date and surely if judging his progression of the club then that is the major factor? Also to say that DE cannot purchase the ground but Sartori would is not really true. From what I can cobble together, in the brief time JS and FK spoke it was about a renegotiated licence wasn't it? And who's to say Kassam had agreed to anything? Do I think DE is perfect? No. Does his turnover of staff and often contradictory statements worry me? Yes. Do I worry about signings and budget like everyone else? Yes Am I bothered either way if he bought anyone a beer or hotdog (sauce or not)? No, although I would add that given that very few owners outside the prem make pots of money then if he wants to feel loved and a man of the people, why not. Doesn't sway me either way. All this doesn't stop me from wondering why we rally behind a man we have virtually no information on. All people are interested in is how much money does he have? Sartori seems a genuine guy and I have no information to prove he would be anything but good for the club, but what he would invest in the club has been taken as gospel by many based on a few snippets in interviews. It was not that long ago that a rich man was promising to spend big and take us on a journey and we lapped that up, often without question. I'm not saying this is the same thing but surely it gives pause for thought? For what it's worth, I was excited by the prospect of Sartori coming (and I don't think the deal is dead in the water), but to turn on Eales in disgust because he hasn't handed over the club immediately just doesn't sit well with me. I just feel our memories are a little short on this one. Have we had a poorly funded team that failed to deliver under him yet?
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 12, 2017 15:24:20 GMT
MAPP's quote is referring to our playing budget not being close to the top 6 clubs in League 1. And that our scouting setup, which has proven very successful recently, is what we're using to keep up with those top 6 clubs with much higher budgets than us. People are seeing the word "recruitment" and desperately trying to pedal that as our scouting system rather than the playing budget. The playing budget which Mr Free Hot Dog has alluded to being top 6, but thou shalt not disbelieve the messiah! Our scouting system has been fantastic, and that combination with MAPP has been the main reason to our success recently. MAPPs slid that quote in to hint at fans that expectations shouldn't be top 6, and rightly so. Opening up the rumour mill once more, I've heard our playing budget is actually 200k down from last season, unless we sell one of our prize assets. Edit: I think it's clear from the clubs in League 1 this season our budget would be nowhere near the top 6, and these quotes from Eales recently have been incredibly misleading. We now have a big chunk of the fanbase that believe we have a top 6 budget and that playoffs should be minimum expectation this season, I think that's incredibly unfair on MAPP. Reasons behind saying it? I reckon he's done it to take the pressure off himself and put it onto MAPP for not delivering a top 6 finish, and I also believe that's exactly why MAPPs slid that quote into the OM interview. Well said. A very astute post for my money. I stand to be corrected but, I don't believe we are going to see a significant increase in the playing staff and we are not going to see any major purchases.
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Post by captainox on Jun 12, 2017 15:59:08 GMT
Previously MApp and DE have used the terms "playing budget" or "transfer budget" when referring directly to the money available for wages/transfers for the squad. This time MApp used the term "recruitment budget" which alongside the content in the rest of the article suggested to me that he was referring in this case to how other clubs (in particular the top 6 budgets) spend for their recruitment process i.e. their scouts, systems, how wide they cast their net.
Unless it has changed, I believe that our layout is Craig Dean - Head Scout Mark Thomas - Head of Recruitment and Performance Analysis
And that Craig Dean uses a pool of freelance agents that are spread across the country/europe who put reports in. (I think on to a database which is where Mark Thomas comes in) Any player being flagged up as hitting pre-set criteria (the DNA idea?) then gets watched by one of the senior staff whether that be Dean/Thomas or Fazakerly in the example of Patrick Hoban. Then MApp himself may go for the final call. I also seem to remember some quote a while back about identifying 2/3 players for every position, so if a player does get sold/long term injured, then we have options identified to look at the availability of straight away.
I would imagine that other clubs have their own team of scouts and this is the impression I got from reading the OM article this morning. MApp was saying that other clubs have noticed our success rate i.e. picking up young players from Premier League development squad - and have started flooding this area more themselves which in turns means we have to adapt our approach - hence the article about Scandinavia.
And by the quote "“We won’t have a recruitment budget of the size the top-six clubs in this league will have, but hopefully what we will have is people in place who are trying to stay one step ahead." I took it to mean that those scouts we do use are using a different approach to the mainstream thereby reducing our need to spend on employing our own scouting team directly.
Personally didn't read any bit of the article and think it referred to the budget available for actual players. However, the noises over the last couple of weeks suggest that perhaps we are all over-egging the budget available for MApp for squad strengthening ahead of the new season. We shall see as MApp has shown in his whole time here that he is very capable of bringing in players from a whole array of bases. As long as the majority of the squad is in place for the start of the season, then I won't be too panicky.
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Post by Barts on Jun 12, 2017 17:11:58 GMT
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? Not that I necessarily see it this way, just answering your question, but he's put a big increase on season tickets, and just before most have renewed he says he wants our budget to be around top 6, many (including me) buy their season ticket, and then we sign only 2 players over several weeks, and then the manager comments at only getting a few more in, seemingly going against having anywhere near a top 6 budget So if he's been dishonest with the people he relies on to pay their hard earned money to support the team then I think we should at least be able to question him and his motives Thanks for the answer. Didn't he freeze the season tickets last year? As you say he said he 'wanted' us to have a top six budget, not that we 'will' have a top six budget. Half the league have only signed 2 players at this stage, in fact I think we'd only got a couple in this time last year. I don't believe he has any reason to be dishonest as he has nothing to gain from it personally. He maybe guilty of being clever with his words too generate more money for the club, but is that such a bad thing? Again thanks for the answer.
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Post by Barts on Jun 12, 2017 17:19:03 GMT
Answer me this question. What gives any fan the right to tell DE how he should or should not spend his money? Fans don't have a right to tell Mr Eales how to spend his money, Barts. First, there's a difference between saying 'we need a forward (for example)', which is entirely accurate, and saying 'Eales needs to stick his hand in his pocket and buy us a million pound forward', which is presumptuous. Mr Eales owns the club, he can spend as much or as little as he wants on it. But second, MOST fans on here are asking how Mr Eales intends to take us forward. And that's a very reasonable question for any fan to ask. He's ditched an injection of cash from Sartori as it 'wasn't in the best interests of OUFC'. He's made his own financial limitations clear over the months. It now appears Mr Appleton will have to scour an ever-diminishing pool for talent. Let's hear what the club's reasonable expectations are for 2017/18. Let's have some honesty. If we can expect little, tell us. Has he not already been clear with us though? He said he can finance a promotion push and I think that includes his 'one star player a year sold' And as you said he pulled out of the deal with sartori because (in his opinion) the deal wasn't in the best interests of the football club. That's all we need too know.
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Post by upthecowboys on Jun 12, 2017 17:19:52 GMT
Thought it was a strange quote from Mapp - why make reference to not having a recruitment budget the same size as a top 6 club? He has created a talking point himself by saying that.
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