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Post by minime on Dec 3, 2016 12:14:01 GMT
Commentators got dunkley spot on, he's often in the wrong position or slow, so then throws his body in to make what looks like a great tackle or block, covering the fact that it's his mistake that's put him in that position Thought Dunkley had a reasonable game - apart from the tackle that got him the yellow. Am I the only one that saw Dunkley having to cover left back as well because Skarz decided he was going to have a night off?
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Post by Marked Ox on Dec 3, 2016 12:17:50 GMT
Commentators got dunkley spot on, he's often in the wrong position or slow, so then throws his body in to make what looks like a great tackle or block, covering the fact that it's his mistake that's put him in that position Thought Dunkley had a reasonable game - apart from the tackle that got him the yellow. Am I the only one that saw Dunkley having to cover left back as well because Skarz decided he was going to have a night off? No, I saw that as well. Skarz was getting a roasting by their winger.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 3, 2016 12:18:18 GMT
Commentators got dunkley spot on, he's often in the wrong position or slow, so then throws his body in to make what looks like a great tackle or block, covering the fact that it's his mistake that's put him in that position Thought Dunkley had a reasonable game - apart from the tackle that got him the yellow. Am I the only one that saw Dunkley having to cover left back as well because Skarz decided he was going to have a night off? Didn't say he didn't have a good game! Was saying that while he throws himself in and makes some great challenges and blocks on the floor, it's often as he's made a mistake before hand. Also 99% of his clearances still go into a dangerous area. Saying that he pulled out one brilliant pass to Roberts 2nd half. And was still one of only 2/3 players who came out with any credit
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Post by timlane on Dec 3, 2016 12:19:41 GMT
If you're a Baggies fan maybe That game would have done him nor his confidence no good at all. Can't play him up front on his own against two lumps at the back and play route one. It's not his game and the result will always be what you saw. The only saving grace for him was that the whole Oxford performance from the manager to the 11 on the pitch was a disgrace 'Disgrace' is absolutely the right word to use. The club, as a whole, should be ashamed on that performance. My only disagreement with your post is that it should read 'to the 10 on the pitch'. I think Simon Eastwood deserves enormous credit for his performance. It could be worth a lot of money to the club!
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Post by 90syellow on Dec 3, 2016 12:20:42 GMT
Commentators got dunkley spot on, he's often in the wrong position or slow, so then throws his body in to make what looks like a great tackle or block, covering the fact that it's his mistake that's put him in that position Thought Dunkley had a reasonable game - apart from the tackle that got him the yellow. Am I the only one that saw Dunkley having to cover left back as well because Skarz decided he was going to have a night off? Thats harsh. Skarz always gives 100% in every game. He clearly had something affecting him which he believed he could play through, and was rightly substituted
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Post by minime on Dec 3, 2016 13:21:19 GMT
Thought Dunkley had a reasonable game - apart from the tackle that got him the yellow. Am I the only one that saw Dunkley having to cover left back as well because Skarz decided he was going to have a night off? Didn't say he didn't have a good game! Was saying that while he throws himself in and makes some great challenges and blocks on the floor, it's often as he's made a mistake before hand. Also 99% of his clearances still go into a dangerous area. Saying that he pulled out one brilliant pass to Roberts 2nd half. And was still one of only 2/3 players who came out with any credit Was answering your comment about the commentators saying Dunkley was out of position too often than having a pop at you personally fella
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 3, 2016 13:31:59 GMT
Didn't say he didn't have a good game! Was saying that while he throws himself in and makes some great challenges and blocks on the floor, it's often as he's made a mistake before hand. Also 99% of his clearances still go into a dangerous area. Saying that he pulled out one brilliant pass to Roberts 2nd half. And was still one of only 2/3 players who came out with any credit Was answering your comment about the commentators saying Dunkley was out of position too often than having a pop at you personally fella I know, but watching it I think they are right, his poor positioning and touch do often leave him then having to dive in. Which while looking great, if he wasn't wrong footed or so slow to react he would just be able to make a normal tackle. A lot of it is probably from playing on the left. In the air he's superb, could just do with directing a few of the headers away from danger rather than straight back to them
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Post by minime on Dec 3, 2016 13:37:50 GMT
Was answering your comment about the commentators saying Dunkley was out of position too often than having a pop at you personally fella I know, but watching it I think they are right, his poor positioning and touch do often leave him then having to dive in. Which while looking great, if he wasn't wrong footed or so slow to react he would just be able to make a normal tackle. A lot of it is probably from playing on the left. In the air he's superb, could just do with directing a few of the headers away from danger rather than straight back to them Reminds me of our Darren Moore, or Big Dave. He was exactly the same. His philosophy was if the ball came anywhere near him, it was sent right back with no care where and usually with the attacker attached to it. Moore ended up and is till a legend at our place and Dunkley reminds me very much of him
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Post by holdsteady on Dec 3, 2016 13:39:18 GMT
Shocking first half performance, was embarrassed by it. An improvement in the second half but nothing spectacular, we are lucky to be in the draw.
People are saying that was Macclesfields chance, but it looked like that in the Swindon-Eastleigh tie, then Eastleigh deservedly won at at the shitpit.
Why Roberts was up front Appleton only knows, haven't seen any of this potential he is supposed to have yet, he doesn't look up to conference standard at the moment. If Taylor can't get a start against Macclesfield over Roberts then is their much point him staying here in January? Need another forward in anyway, maybe two if Appleton doesn't fancy Taylor anymore.
Pick the strongest team for the replay, need to get some pride back after that performance. Luckily the players get a chance to atone for that shambles, they don't really deserve it.
After the big improvement in the last 3 games this was coming back to earth with a crash. Just shows that when we play lethargic, lazy, sit back football we are a poor side, need to play a pacey, hard working pressing game to get any success with this team of players.
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Post by headingtonutd on Dec 3, 2016 13:51:20 GMT
Quite possibly he delayed because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and nobody making an opening. The same with Skarz. Johnson might as well not have been on the field for much of the game. The thing is, if there is no one to pass to then just get rid of it. It would of been more effective than give the ball to them on the edge of our box which Dunkley, Scarz and Edwards did plenty of last night. This is where we missed Lunny. He has not had the best of starts to the season but he never goes missing and comes short and demands the ball. Also when his passing is right he really hurts pressing teams by cutting out two or three with one ball. I was a little surprised that Ledson didn't fill that role but he and Rothwell have not become bad players over night. Yes we were awful last night. We should have been beaten no question. Our defence had one of it's worse games all season and it was a worry that things didn't improve dramatically in the second half. The foot was off the gas and we looked nervous when pressed but thankfully we have another chance to put it right before we go back to league. We are not a bad side because of one very sub par performance. Someone earlier in the thread suggested this was 'another' tactical blunder by Mapp. I just don't see that. I think we are slowly starting to gel and he is getting us going in the right direction in a tough league. Yes Robberts was lightweight and ineffective up front and others could have done a job. I'd have had Taylor from the start and someone buzzing around him but we needed to rest a few with injuries piling up. Personally i'd have left Maguire out too but I suspect he will be rested in the next and this was by far the more important of the two. I really wanted us to win and progress and it's great for team spirit but our focus has to be league. Yes I love the cup and yes it's a great money spinner but frankly when Maguire went down in the second half I was more worried about that than being in the third round. Altogether a very poor night at the office but..... We are in the draw for the next round. Fingers crossed no major injuries. This may be a little reminder of how hard we need to work to get results this season. Thankfully the results book doesn't have video clips in.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Dec 3, 2016 14:04:14 GMT
Some of the language being used to describe our performance on this thread is a bit laughable.
A ''disgrace' is a 3-0 defeat.
Some supporters need to get some perspective. Yes it was uninspiring fare but we hung in there and are still in the hat.
Appleton didn't select enough experience last night- that was the main problem.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Dec 3, 2016 14:59:50 GMT
MAPP was looking to use pace up front, but all we did was hoof the ball up front and negated that advantage. The fact the midfield was anonymous exacerbated the issue because we were left with no choices but to play it long. We needed Ruffels in the middle to at least give some structure and physical ability to the middle of the park. Rothwell looked like an academy player who wasn't used to that style of opposition and drifted out of the game Thus our midfield was offering a lot of space to Macc, who used it.
I will maintain that Skarz was injured from the beginning. He looked like he was trying to gut through, but the winger was so pacey it was a lost hope because he had issues running at pace and turning. Johnson worries me at left back because his game is going forward, and he struggles with runners behind him. I thought Edwards did well with what was in front of him, or not, in the midfield.
Lunny should help in the upcoming games because he reads the game better than Rothwell and Ledson at the moment.
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Post by blox21 on Dec 3, 2016 15:28:09 GMT
Some of the language being used to describe our performance on this thread is a bit laughable. A ''disgrace' is a 3-0 defeat. Some supporters need to get some perspective. Yes it was uninspiring fare but we hung in there and are still in the hat. Appleton didn't select enough experience last night- that was the main problem. Totally disagree, professional players not giving 100% is a disgrace , I watched the majority of our players doing just that !
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Post by 90syellow on Dec 3, 2016 15:39:23 GMT
Some of the language being used to describe our performance on this thread is a bit laughable. A ''disgrace' is a 3-0 defeat. Some supporters need to get some perspective. Yes it was uninspiring fare but we hung in there and are still in the hat. Appleton didn't select enough experience last night- that was the main problem. Totally disagree, professional players not giving 100% is a disgrace , I watched the majority of a players doing just that ! This. Had it not been for some luck and outstanding saves from Eastwood it could have easily been 3-0
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Post by greatunclekip on Dec 3, 2016 16:35:44 GMT
I would agree. From manager to ten outfield players it was a disgraceful performance on TV.
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Post by Young Money on Dec 3, 2016 16:59:58 GMT
What did the manager do that was 'disgraceful' exactly?
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Post by concretebob on Dec 3, 2016 17:05:51 GMT
I would agree. From manager to ten outfield players it was a disgraceful performance on TV. Here he is! Do you ever have anything positive to say about OUFC?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Dec 3, 2016 17:11:25 GMT
That game would have done him nor his confidence no good at all. Can't play him up front on his own against two lumps at the back and play route one. It's not his game and the result will always be what you saw. The only saving grace for him was that the whole Oxford performance from the manager to the 11 on the pitch was a disgrace 'Disgrace' is absolutely the right word to use. The club, as a whole, should be ashamed on that performance. My only disagreement with your post is that it should read 'to the 10 on the pitch'. I think Simon Eastwood deserves enormous credit for his performance. It could be worth a lot of money to the club! What is it with people a lot layer has a good game then they come out with could be worth a lot of money to the club ffs do they want t sell out Best players or would they rather try and keep them and add other decent players and try and get promoted again. This season we won't and after last night MAPP will have the have a serious look to see what he can do to get us going again
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 3, 2016 17:41:45 GMT
Lack of quality and lack of effort are 2 different things. We lacked quality on the ball last night and positionally out of possession but lack of effort I don't think is fair.
This season is going to have up and downs due to our very young squad. Appleton has already said we need to bring in experience to help the group out. He has rebuilt a squad that is capable of in the long term going to the league above. It isn't going to be a smooth ride, especially only 4 months into a rebuild.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Dec 3, 2016 17:49:45 GMT
'Disgrace' is absolutely the right word to use. The club, as a whole, should be ashamed on that performance. My only disagreement with your post is that it should read 'to the 10 on the pitch'. I think Simon Eastwood deserves enormous credit for his performance. It could be worth a lot of money to the club! What is it with people a lot layer has a good game then they come out with could be worth a lot of money to the club ffs do they want t sell out Best players or would they rather try and keep them and add other decent players and try and get promoted again. This season we won't and after last night MAPP will have the have a serious look to see what he can do to get us going again Surely timlane meant getting through to FAC3 with the help of Eastwood's saves was worth a lot of money, not that the player himself is now worth a lot of money?
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 3, 2016 17:50:17 GMT
Not so sure, first 25 mins there was a distinct lack of effort, even maguire was wondering around like he didn't want to be there. Dunks was late to the ball a lot leading to his booking. The only real effort came from macca and Edwards who tried to run towards at least. 2nd half was much better effort wise, but still lacked the quality that we know were capable of. Oufc seem to still have a problem of dropping to the level of the opposition, always performing better against teams in the playoffs compared to the relegation spots. Saying that if we put half the effort and skill in that they did last night we might have managed a win
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Post by timlane on Dec 3, 2016 18:23:37 GMT
What is it with people a lot layer has a good game then they come out with could be worth a lot of money to the club ffs do they want t sell out Best players or would they rather try and keep them and add other decent players and try and get promoted again. This season we won't and after last night MAPP will have the have a serious look to see what he can do to get us going again Surely timlane meant getting through to FAC3 with the help of Eastwood's saves was worth a lot of money, not that the player himself is now worth a lot of money? Thank you, Pete, that is exactly what I meant. Were it not for Eastwood we would be out of the FA Cup, with no chance of the cash bonanza that we just might get from the right 3rd Round draw.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Dec 3, 2016 18:24:20 GMT
What is it with people a lot layer has a good game then they come out with could be worth a lot of money to the club ffs do they want t sell out Best players or would they rather try and keep them and add other decent players and try and get promoted again. This season we won't and after last night MAPP will have the have a serious look to see what he can do to get us going again Surely timlane meant getting through to FAC3 with the help of Eastwood's saves was worth a lot of money, not that the player himself is now worth a lot of money? Thanks I misread
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Post by browny on Dec 3, 2016 19:03:40 GMT
Totally disagree, professional players not giving 100% is a disgrace , I watched the majority of a players doing just that ! This. Had it not been for some luck and outstanding saves from Eastwood it could have easily been 3-0 Which would have been disastrous given that they only had 2 shots on target Let's all calm down, Macclesfield were impressive and I did not see us as a team who were not trying. The atmosphere was good and the locals were very sociable in their comments after the game. Its very rare we get wished a safe journey by opposing fans
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Post by 90syellow on Dec 3, 2016 20:12:34 GMT
This. Had it not been for some luck and outstanding saves from Eastwood it could have easily been 3-0 Which would have been disastrous given that they only had 2 shots on target Let's all calm down, Macclesfield were impressive and I did not see us as a team who were not trying. The atmosphere was good and the locals were very sociable in their comments after the game. Its very rare we get wished a safe journey by opposing fans Don't try to play smart please. I said "and some luck" for a reason. They hit the post, could easily have been 3-0
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Post by SteMerritt on Dec 3, 2016 20:33:23 GMT
Which would have been disastrous given that they only had 2 shots on target Let's all calm down, Macclesfield were impressive and I did not see us as a team who were not trying. The atmosphere was good and the locals were very sociable in their comments after the game. Its very rare we get wished a safe journey by opposing fans Don't try to play smart please. I said "and some luck" for a reason. They hit the post, could easily have been 3-0 We hit the post, the bar, and their keeper pulled off a great save. With luck we could have won 3-0. We were bad. We escaped with one. Last week we could have beaten the league leaders on their own patch. That's football we move on.
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Post by 90syellow on Dec 3, 2016 21:07:00 GMT
Don't try to play smart please. I said "and some luck" for a reason. They hit the post, could easily have been 3-0 We hit the post, the bar, and their keeper pulled off a great save. With luck we could have won 3-0. We were bad. We escaped with one. Last week we could have beaten the league leaders on their own patch. That's football we move on. I'm not saying that we couldn't have won 3-0 either, I'm just making a relevant response to the post that was made towards mine
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Post by tomox on Dec 4, 2016 13:43:57 GMT
Slight overreaction on here IMO. Macclesfield were massively up for it, and like it or not we were never going to play with the same intensity that has seen us turn our form around recently.
To put it into perspective, Wimbledon (7th in League 1) are currently 0-3 down to Curzon Ashton...
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Post by tomox on Dec 4, 2016 13:45:21 GMT
Slight overreaction on here IMO. Macclesfield were massively up for it, and like it or not we were never going to play with the same intensity that has seen us turn our form around recently. To put it into perspective, Wimbledon (7th in League 1) are currently 0-3 down to Curzon Ashton... Timing of this post wasn't great ffs
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Post by Maurice Earp on Dec 4, 2016 13:52:18 GMT
Slight overreaction on here IMO. Macclesfield were massively up for it, and like it or not we were never going to play with the same intensity that has seen us turn our form around recently. To put it into perspective, Wimbledon (7th in League 1) are currently 0-3 down to Curzon Ashton... Timing of this post wasn't great ffs 3 - 3 now as AFC have scored 3 in 3 minutes Join OxVox www.oxvox.org.uk/join-oxvox/
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