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Post by makv on Dec 3, 2016 0:48:21 GMT
What's the chances of even more tv money for the replay? Pretty good with them gagging for an upset I would think, especially if we draw one of the big boys as a reward They won't touch us with a barge pole. Depends on the draw on Monday, surely?
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Post by nerps on Dec 3, 2016 0:51:32 GMT
pretty abysmal but if one thing stands out above all else it's that not one player seems to be able to direct a headed pass accurately. On the rare occasion that one of ours actually managed to out-jump one of theirs there was a less than 1% chance that the ball would go to a player in yellow !!! I would have them doing heading practice at every opportunity before the next game, their current standard really is unacceptable.
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Post by tonto on Dec 3, 2016 0:56:15 GMT
I was wondering as they showed us in the last round maybe they are showing one team all the way to the final.Obviously only us if we win every game!Whoever wins gets on the telly in the next round whoever they play.
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Post by oufcluke27 on Dec 3, 2016 1:01:42 GMT
absolutely shocking performance and how we got a draw is beyond me!!! Roberts up front against those 2 lumps was a pure mismatch!! no desire at all tonight,just glad we got them to a replay at home where hopefully we'll see a proper performance!!!
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Post by bigcrompy on Dec 3, 2016 1:14:04 GMT
Really feel Roberts is out of his depth as a 17 year old in a lower league team. Haven't been impressed and think its time to send him back He came here to learn and the odd game now and again is part of that learning. Mind you this sort of game and this sort of opposition is more likely to destroy his confidence than help him to learn. If you're a Baggies fan maybe - but I'm an Oxford fan, and I don't see Tyler Roberts' football education as a priority over Oxford having the best opportunity to win games. I can't see Tyler Roberts meriting a place in a squad let alone a first team at the moment, and I think MApp must use him sparingingly moving forward. I once heard a wise man say "Why import third raters when we have enough second raters already?" He was talking about English county cricket in the late 80s, but I thought his point was sound enough...
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Post by Millman on Dec 3, 2016 5:18:36 GMT
MApp got things massively wrong again with that team selection and that formation.
But it highlights just how woefully thin our squad is. Outside of the first 11 currently we have no players who are really good enough for the first team. We have too many kids and not enough finished players. We have no spare fit full backs (Ruffels and or Johnson aren't the answer). We have no effective spare midfield combination (Sercombe out, and Cowley gone, I never want to see Rothwell and Ledson together again). We have Taylor and Hemmings as proper forwards (Maguire is too busy playing as the whole of midfield, and Roberts is a child who isn't ready for first team football).
We need more players. We need a decent ball playing tough central midfielder with experience. We need another decent striker. We need one or two full backs. Plus i would pay good money for that Danny Rowe from Macclesfield he had pace and was direct and tore us apart.
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Post by Junior on Dec 3, 2016 6:34:17 GMT
Defiantly dodged a bullet last night. Surprised that the team traveled up on the day rather than a stay over. Not saying that's to blame for the performance but it couldn't have helped.
Felt for young Roberts. He's clearly not a CF and got beat up by the 2 experienced Macc CB's.
With respect to Macclesfield, that was their chance to win. Hopefully that's lessons learned and we get through the replay.
Will be interesting to see what side Appleton puts out for the Southend game.
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Post by upthecowboys on Dec 3, 2016 7:05:15 GMT
Relieved to still be in the cup. Apart from the obvious poor performance I though App got a couple of things wrong last night.
Sticking Tyler Roberts up front was a mistake, at times he was effectively playing on his own and despite being small in stature we still lumped the ball forward in the air to him. However credit to Roberts, as the commentators pointed out defensively from set pieces he was switched on and cut out a couple of corners and despite it being tough up top for him he made himself available.
Why are we playing Johnson at left back? I know he can attack from there, and Ruffles on occasions dropped in behind him but he should be an out and out attacker. Especially in the latter stages when we had Taylor and Hemings on, Ruffles should have been left back and Johnson should have had full license to attack.
Really disappointing performance. Appreciate that 2 changes were enforced from the Scunny team, but hope we have learnt our lesson and play our strongest team in the replay.
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Post by Junior on Dec 3, 2016 7:07:21 GMT
One bit of good news I've just thought of. We can play the squad at Southend and not get fined for playing a weakened first 11 !
Every cloud and all that...
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 3, 2016 7:29:32 GMT
A very very poor night. Ledson did OK I thought but died off a bit towards the end and certainly doesn't look as comfortable playing with Rothwell as he does with Lunny.
I thought yet again Dunkley was an accident waiting to happen. Yes he won headers and put blocks in but he worries me every time he has the ball at his feet. He also gifted them a chance when he dithered on the ball rather than just clearing it, slipped and the lad was through.
Roberts, well I'm surprised he came out for the 2nd half. I'm all for trying these young academy kids out as you do find a few gems like Lunny, Roofe and IMO Ledson will be another but he is just out of his depth here and he got bullied all night by Macc's defenders.
Edwards was poor and I can't wait for Ribs to get back.
On the plus points I thought Maguire had a decent game and I thought playing Ruffles and Marv down the left was a good combination with both able to fill in for the other when we attacked.
Overall we are very lucky to still be in the cup and I am very sure Appleton would of made it quite clear to the players that performance was well below the standard it should be.
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Post by saddletramp on Dec 3, 2016 7:30:45 GMT
I was wondering as they showed us in the last round maybe they are showing one team all the way to the final.Obviously only us if we win every game!Whoever wins gets on the telly in the next round whoever they play. As the Merstham game was on BT sport,i doubt it.
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Post by saddletramp on Dec 3, 2016 7:32:44 GMT
A very very poor night. Ledson did OK I thought but died off a bit towards the end and certainly doesn't look as comfortable playing with Rothwell as he does with Lunny. I thought yet again Dunkley was an accident waiting to happen. Yes he won headers and put blocks in but he worries me every time he has the ball at his feet. He also gifted them a chance when he dithered on the ball rather than just clearing it, slipped and the lad was through. Roberts, well I'm surprised he came out for the 2nd half. I'm all for trying these young academy kids out as you do find a few gems like Lunny, Roofe and IMO Ledson will be another but he is just out of his depth here and he got bullied all night by Macc's defenders. Edwards was poor and I can't wait for Ribs to get back. On the plus points I thought Maguire had a decent game and I thought playing Ruffles and Marv down the left was a good combination with both able to fill in for the other when we attacked. Overall we are very lucky to still be in the cup and I am very sure Appleton would of made it quite clear to the players that performance was well below the standard it should be. I thought that was Martin that dithered and Dunkley came to the rescue.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 3, 2016 7:45:29 GMT
A very very poor night. Ledson did OK I thought but died off a bit towards the end and certainly doesn't look as comfortable playing with Rothwell as he does with Lunny. I thought yet again Dunkley was an accident waiting to happen. Yes he won headers and put blocks in but he worries me every time he has the ball at his feet. He also gifted them a chance when he dithered on the ball rather than just clearing it, slipped and the lad was through. Roberts, well I'm surprised he came out for the 2nd half. I'm all for trying these young academy kids out as you do find a few gems like Lunny, Roofe and IMO Ledson will be another but he is just out of his depth here and he got bullied all night by Macc's defenders. Edwards was poor and I can't wait for Ribs to get back. On the plus points I thought Maguire had a decent game and I thought playing Ruffles and Marv down the left was a good combination with both able to fill in for the other when we attacked. Overall we are very lucky to still be in the cup and I am very sure Appleton would of made it quite clear to the players that performance was well below the standard it should be. I thought that was Martin that dithered and Dunkley came to the rescue. Martin was caught out once but it was definitely Dunks who slipped due to spending too long deciding what to do with it. Scarz also had a poor game for his standards and also delayed clearing it which gave them a good chance.
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Post by oldham on Dec 3, 2016 8:24:43 GMT
Credit to Macclesfield though. It wasn't just us having a mare, some of their better players were very good on the night. Maybe they raised their game I don't know but their attacking down the wings was excellent at times.
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Post by uptheus on Dec 3, 2016 8:41:41 GMT
They won't touch us with a barge pole. Depends on the draw on Monday, surely? I was referring to the replay, and I think they'll think twice about near future games.
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Post by rch92 on Dec 3, 2016 9:09:01 GMT
A very very poor night. Ledson did OK I thought but died off a bit towards the end and certainly doesn't look as comfortable playing with Rothwell as he does with Lunny. I thought yet again Dunkley was an accident waiting to happen. Yes he won headers and put blocks in but he worries me every time he has the ball at his feet. He also gifted them a chance when he dithered on the ball rather than just clearing it, slipped and the lad was through. Roberts, well I'm surprised he came out for the 2nd half. I'm all for trying these young academy kids out as you do find a few gems like Lunny, Roofe and IMO Ledson will be another but he is just out of his depth here and he got bullied all night by Macc's defenders. Edwards was poor and I can't wait for Ribs to get back. On the plus points I thought Maguire had a decent game and I thought playing Ruffles and Marv down the left was a good combination with both able to fill in for the other when we attacked. Overall we are very lucky to still be in the cup and I am very sure Appleton would of made it quite clear to the players that performance was well below the standard it should be. I thought that was Martin that dithered and Dunkley came to the rescue. That's exactly what I saw. To me Dunkley made a great last ditch tackle and overall had a decent game, which can't be said for the rest of the team. We made Danny Rowe look like Lionel Messi. Let's hope we put in a better performance for the replay and learn from what went wrong.
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Post by KristapsGrebis on Dec 3, 2016 9:38:48 GMT
We were horribly exposed down the flanks last night, the support from midfield was often slow to come and Dunkley's game always drops off when partnered with Martin. We're asking Edwards to do what Baldock did last season and it's just not him, slow to recover and track his man.
We looked better when Taylor and Hemmings were on the pitch and creating more space in midfield, Tyler Roberts was totally out of position and didn't push their defenders enough. Dodged a banana skin, we'll get it right for the replay, here's hoping we draw a cracking team.
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Post by makv on Dec 3, 2016 9:42:55 GMT
Defiantly dodged a bullet last night. We were definitely far from defiant.
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Post by makv on Dec 3, 2016 9:44:52 GMT
Depends on the draw on Monday, surely? I was referring to the replay, and I think they'll think twice about near future games. So was I. What I mean is, if the winner of this replay gets drawn against, say, Man City on Monday, that would seem like a very good reason to televise the game, no?
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 3, 2016 9:54:23 GMT
I think the fact they did so well makes it more likely we will get a tv replay. They sense an upset, and if like it says above they can bang on about how not only have they knocked a l1 side out but now face the mighty .......... they will love it. Be able to interview other members of their staff like the coach driver, and listen to how Paul ince 100% knew this would happen and trevor say it's a big turn around from when roofe scored 2 goals here against Swansea last season
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Post by berliner on Dec 3, 2016 9:54:28 GMT
I was in a meeting last night but got back home (fearing the worst) and switched on at the hour mark. I have no doubt the first half was inept, but what I saw wasn't the worst OUFC performance ever. Taylor gave a focal point and Ruffles I thought was his usual, does what it says on the tin, self. Left back I had no idea about what was going on. Sometimes Ruffles, sometimes Johnson, for 10 minutes Macca. Switching roles is a wonderful thing, if the players are good at both roles, but Johnson is, once again, markedly not a defender. Dunks and Eastwood the stand-outs. Midfield was being bypassed far too often and we gave them far too much room. Ledson was poor, gave the ball away far too often. That said, we would have lost that game a few seasons back, so at least we're in the draw for round 3.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Dec 3, 2016 10:00:02 GMT
I was in a meeting last night but got back home (fearing the worst) and switched on at the hour mark. I have no doubt the first half was inept, but what I saw wasn't the worst OUFC performance ever. I tend to agree. I've certainly seen worse. That said, you were fortunate not to have to suffer the first half. If our second half performance had mirrored the first, the overall effort would definitely have been an all time low. From about the 65th minute on we at least looked as if we cared and started playing more like a team than a set of disinterested spectators. Far from good enough overall, but I'm not feeling too glum about our prospects in the replay. PS The TV companies would be off their heads to televise the replay based on last night. Who would watch it?
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Post by dabigfella on Dec 3, 2016 10:24:01 GMT
I thought that was Martin that dithered and Dunkley came to the rescue. Martin was caught out once but it was definitely Dunks who slipped due to spending too long deciding what to do with it. Scarz also had a poor game for his standards and also delayed clearing it which gave them a good chance. Quite possibly he delayed because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and nobody making an opening. The same with Skarz. Johnson might as well not have been on the field for much of the game.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 3, 2016 10:59:30 GMT
Martin was caught out once but it was definitely Dunks who slipped due to spending too long deciding what to do with it. Scarz also had a poor game for his standards and also delayed clearing it which gave them a good chance. Quite possibly he delayed because there was absolutely no movement in front of him and nobody making an opening. The same with Skarz. Johnson might as well not have been on the field for much of the game. The thing is, if there is no one to pass to then just get rid of it. It would of been more effective than give the ball to them on the edge of our box which Dunkley, Scarz and Edwards did plenty of last night.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 3, 2016 11:03:35 GMT
Commentators got dunkley spot on, he's often in the wrong position or slow, so then throws his body in to make what looks like a great tackle or block, covering the fact that it's his mistake that's put him in that position
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Dec 3, 2016 11:04:45 GMT
If Taylor had started there would have been much more of an outlet for the defence in terms of long balls, and it would've generally taken the sting out of the game a bit as the ball would've stuck more. Roberts got thrown around like a rag doll all night. I can't even begin to figure out why this wasn't the case, but it definitely impacted the back line who knew full well that a launched hoof was only coming back with interest.
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Post by nottsyellow on Dec 3, 2016 11:22:36 GMT
MApp got things massively wrong again with that team selection and that formation. But it highlights just how woefully thin our squad is. Outside of the first 11 currently we have no players who are really good enough for the first team. We have too many kids and not enough finished players. We have no spare fit full backs (Ruffels and or Johnson aren't the answer). We have no effective spare midfield combination (Sercombe out, and Cowley gone, I never want to see Rothwell and Ledson together again). We have Taylor and Hemmings as proper forwards (Maguire is too busy playing as the whole of midfield, and Roberts is a child who isn't ready for first team football). We need more players. We need a decent ball playing tough central midfielder with experience. We need another decent striker. We need one or two full backs. Plus i would pay good money for that Danny Rowe from Macclesfield he had pace and was direct and tore us apart. Millman, how would you finance all these extra players?
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Post by londonroader on Dec 3, 2016 11:49:00 GMT
Result as expected with the team not reaching the flattering heights of the last few games. But we are in the hat for the 3rd round, extra income from the replay, maybe the display tonight might put off any suitors of Mapp. We need more bodies in the building January but with the so inconsistent displays it's hard to put a finger on where any money avail should be spent, it seems that the management are not getting the best out of what they have at the moment. To be honest I don't think there will be many suitors for mapp after that performance he was unable to motivate the team today and sent the same team out for the second half that preformed so poorly in the first. Let's face it he is still very unproven especially at league one level. Hope it feels better in the morning but that performance apart from dunks and Eastwood we lacked bite and commitment. At the start of the second half it looked like we had 9 mercenaries playing for us caring nothing and expecting the opposition to roll over. I hope you're right...
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Post by bigronaldo on Dec 3, 2016 12:00:25 GMT
Okay, taking a cold look at it this morning, it is clear from from the off in the way they set up that we were going to have our work cut out. 4-2-3-1 suggests that we were always going to be outnumbered in midfield and struggle to get players forward. They swamped us with high energy down the flanks and always had an outlet. They were fit and quick and we found it tough to impose our passing game on them until mid-way through the second half. This was their best chance to progress and they very nearly did it. However, i don't think that we will get caught out like that again with so many below par performances from us. We did enough to get them back here and we should see it out from here.
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Post by minime on Dec 3, 2016 12:10:21 GMT
He came here to learn and the odd game now and again is part of that learning. Mind you this sort of game and this sort of opposition is more likely to destroy his confidence than help him to learn. If you're a Baggies fan maybe That game would have done him nor his confidence no good at all. Can't play him up front on his own against two lumps at the back and play route one. It's not his game and the result will always be what you saw. The only saving grace for him was that the whole Oxford performance from the manager to the 11 on the pitch was a disgrace
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