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Post by nottsyellow on Sept 10, 2017 13:25:12 GMT
To the person who continues to let off the smoke bombs, a simple message - PLEASE STOP IT for these very simple reasons:- It is illegal on a football ground in England It can be extremely dangerous for some people with health issues, especially for most older people The club can be fined and potentially be deducted points if it continues. It will mean Mr Mixter's team has a valid excuse for more searches on entry to the ground and a reason for banning taking bags in to the ground It will result in more searches at away grounds resulting in fans suffering delays to enter the ground. It will cost the club more in stewarding if it continues Daryl has asked for this to stop. 99% of fans do not want smoke bombs. There are no benefits to anyone for smoke bombs, and no reason whatsoever to do it. The offence can carry a prison sentence and I think with all the publicity no one would feel sorry for the offender if a prison sentence was handed out.
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Post by mcf86 on Sept 10, 2017 13:33:34 GMT
Anyone who knows the dipstick who keeps letting off smoke bombs or flares, have a word!
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Post by holdsteady on Sept 10, 2017 14:02:37 GMT
It looked shite, not sure why you would run the risk for that but whoever did it must get some sort of kick out of it.
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Post by malcolmnl on Sept 10, 2017 14:08:21 GMT
It looked shite, not sure why you would run the risk for that but whoever did it must get some sort of kick out of it. They can have a kick from me, between the legs. Sorry if that sounds violent but this sort of idiot deserves it.
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Post by concretebob on Sept 10, 2017 14:30:54 GMT
As previously stated... It's completely irrelevant whether they contribute to atmosphere or not. The bottom line is its illegal to set these things off in a football stadium in this country.
It needs to stop. Now.
I see there's some brain dead comments on an OUFC Facebook group in support of smoke bombs. Apparently it's 'health and safety gone mad'
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Post by Pete Burrett on Sept 10, 2017 15:08:32 GMT
To the person who continues to let off the smoke bombs, a simple message - PLEASE STOP IT for these very simple reasons:- It is illegal on a football ground in England It can be extremely dangerous for some people with health issues, especially for most older people The club can be fined and potentially be deducted points if it continues. It will mean Mr Mixter's team has a valid excuse for more searches on entry to the ground and a reason for banning taking bags in to the ground It will result in more searches at away grounds resulting in fans suffering delays to enter the ground. It will cost the club more in stewarding if it continues Daryl has asked for this to stop. 99% of fans do not want smoke bombs. There are no benefits to anyone for smoke bombs, and no reason whatsoever to do it. The offence can carry a prison sentence and I think with all the publicity no one would feel sorry for the offender if a prison sentence was handed out. A fine post. But, unfortunately, they don't care. A lot of people must have been around the thrower yesterday, and all the previous throwers. There's a chance - even if this forum only represents 10% of regular match attendees (that's a guess) - that a poster reading this knows exactly who the miscreants are, or can easily find out through someone they sit near / drink in the pub with. Can I suggest a two stage plan? Stage one: tell the ignorant little fucker(s) to stop. Stage two: if they do it again, inform the club. Bollocks to not shopping fellow fans. These creeps must know what they do is a major financial threat for OUFC.
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Post by winchesterox on Sept 10, 2017 15:11:44 GMT
Not sure how they are able to let off a smoke bomb without being caught.
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Post by oldham on Sept 10, 2017 15:20:57 GMT
Not sure how they are able to let off a smoke bomb without being caught. Because they surround themselves with their little mates and then let it off, at least that's what happened last season when they were doing it. I was only near one once and that was at Port Vale.
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Post by holdsteady on Sept 10, 2017 15:23:19 GMT
It looked shite, not sure why you would run the risk for that but whoever did it must get some sort of kick out of it. They can have a kick from me, between the legs. Sorry if that sounds violent but this sort of idiot deserves it. But that would be breaking the law, making you as bad as them. You can't criticise someone for doing something illegal and then threaten them with violence. As I said it looked shite, it was pointless and you can get a stretch for it (I think?), given the risk reward ratio the person responsible must get some sort of kick out of it else they wouldn't do it, strange thing to get a thrill from, but some people are strange.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Sept 10, 2017 15:51:03 GMT
To the person who continues to let off the smoke bombs, a simple message - PLEASE STOP IT for these very simple reasons:- It is illegal on a football ground in England It can be extremely dangerous for some people with health issues, especially for most older people The club can be fined and potentially be deducted points if it continues. It will mean Mr Mixter's team has a valid excuse for more searches on entry to the ground and a reason for banning taking bags in to the ground It will result in more searches at away grounds resulting in fans suffering delays to enter the ground. It will cost the club more in stewarding if it continues Daryl has asked for this to stop. 99% of fans do not want smoke bombs. There are no benefits to anyone for smoke bombs, and no reason whatsoever to do it. The offence can carry a prison sentence and I think with all the publicity no one would feel sorry for the offender if a prison sentence was handed out. Sorry, but these pea-brains can't read.
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Post by plonker on Sept 10, 2017 16:07:36 GMT
They can have a kick from me, between the legs. Sorry if that sounds violent but this sort of idiot deserves it. But that would be breaking the law, making you as bad as them. You can't criticise someone for doing something illegal and then threaten them with violence. As I said it looked shite, it was pointless and you can get a stretch for it (I think?), given the risk reward ratio the person responsible must get some sort of kick out of it else they wouldn't do it, strange thing to get a thrill from, but some people are strange. I think it's 3 months. They must think it's cool, or edgy. But in reality it's plain f*cking stupid. The so-called improvement in atmosphere I see some people mention is just anyone with an ounce of common sense collectively calling the person responsible a dickhead. They clearly aren't Oxford fans; ban the idiot(s). Someone knows who is responsible, if any of them cared about the club whatsoever, they'd man up and have a word.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 10, 2017 16:08:42 GMT
Pretty sure the stewards saw who it was yesterday
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Post by concretebob on Sept 10, 2017 16:21:43 GMT
Pretty sure the stewards saw who it was yesterday And hopefully that individual will be banned in future.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Sept 10, 2017 16:24:36 GMT
The club know; people who work for the club know. They could stop this immediately if they really wanted to because they know who the culprits are. And yes, people who know the identities and are directly involved in the acts frequent this forum.
It won't change no matter what because these people think it's a challenge / funny. We could get a points deduction and they wouldn't stop. They'll never stop until they're forced to by the law in the form of banning orders or jail time.
Those are the options at this point, and I'm kind of tired of hearing about it because I know that the club know who these people are.
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Post by concretebob on Sept 10, 2017 16:35:33 GMT
The club know; people who work for the club know. They could stop this immediately if they really wanted to because they know who the culprits are. And yes, people who know the identities and are directly involved in the acts frequent this forum. It won't change no matter what because these people think it's a challenge / funny. We could get a points deduction and they wouldn't stop. They'll never stop until they're forced to by the law in the form of banning orders or jail time. Those are the options at this point, and I'm kind of tired of hearing about it because I know that the club know who these people are. Makes you wonder why the club aren't prepared to stop this immediately...
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Post by mcf86 on Sept 10, 2017 16:55:54 GMT
I'm struggling to understand why the club would knowingly let the perpetrators/s get away with it, really? If an innocent spectator was injured by a smoke bomb flare or whatever, they could be sued by individuals and fined by the FL. So why would they turn a blind eye?
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Post by leysboy on Sept 10, 2017 17:21:35 GMT
Unfortunately every football club has a small minority of idiots, but whenever Liverpool play at Anfield in midweek fixtures mostly I've noticed they have flares in the kop end.
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Post by scotchegg on Sept 10, 2017 17:21:55 GMT
Why wouldn't the club get involved? And what do people gain by challenging the club in this way?
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Post by ox4eva on Sept 10, 2017 17:50:47 GMT
I was in the north stand but missed it but I could smell it. Cops and stewards just seemed to look and do nothing!
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Sept 10, 2017 18:03:25 GMT
I'm just waiting for one of these idiots to be caught, get banned (or imprisoned) and then to pop up on here moaning how "it isn't fair, it was only a bit of fun, smoke never hurt nobody, it all for the atmosphere" etc etc etc.
They won't get any sympathy from me.
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Post by daveoufc on Sept 10, 2017 18:07:53 GMT
Not sure how they are able to let off a smoke bomb without being caught. Because they surround themselves with their little mates and then let it off, at least that's what happened last season when they were doing it. I was only near one once and that was at Port Vale. Couldnt a well known group of older mates just tell them sorry lads we are having no more smoke bombs no one has to get grassed up or banned.
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Post by Mark on Sept 10, 2017 18:44:05 GMT
I'd guess the club / tvp are waiting for concrete proof of a culprit. No point saying we think it was X. So will be waiting to catch someone with a smoke bomb on their person rather than trying to persuade a court that an indistinct video of one being let off is a person.
We've already seen one fan do time for merely holding a smoke bomb, it will happen again.
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Post by mariokempes on Sept 10, 2017 18:50:31 GMT
I'd guess the club / tvp are waiting for concrete proof of a culprit. No point saying we think it was X. So will be waiting to catch someone with a smoke bomb on their person rather than trying to persuade a court that an indistinct video of one being let off is a person. We've already seen one fan do time for merely holding a smoke bomb, it will happen again. lets be honest,it may be time for far more stringent body searches at the entrances to the East and North stands
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Post by Mark on Sept 10, 2017 19:01:29 GMT
Also worth noting that the law says you can be caught even for possession of a smoke bomb on the way to a football ground. So if i had one at oxford station and a match ticket I could be caught. Not that I'm going to do that.
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Post by londonroader on Sept 10, 2017 19:23:52 GMT
The club know; people who work for the club know. They could stop this immediately if they really wanted to because they know who the culprits are. And yes, people who know the identities and are directly involved in the acts frequent this forum. It won't change no matter what because these people think it's a challenge / funny. We could get a points deduction and they wouldn't stop. They'll never stop until they're forced to by the law in the form of banning orders or jail time. Those are the options at this point, and I'm kind of tired of hearing about it because I know that the club know who these people are. They still might have angst about the way DE treated them!!
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Post by concretebob on Sept 10, 2017 19:26:09 GMT
I'd guess the club / tvp are waiting for concrete proof of a culprit. No point saying we think it was X. So will be waiting to catch someone with a smoke bomb on their person rather than trying to persuade a court that an indistinct video of one being let off is a person. We've already seen one fan do time for merely holding a smoke bomb, it will happen again. lets be honest,it may be time for far more stringent body searches at the entrances to the East and North stands Why should the rest of us have to be subjected to full body searches just because some immature scrotes are letting these things off?
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Post by londonroader on Sept 10, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
There was an episode resulting from this "smoke bomb", a young steward seemed to get some of the smoke in his face and needed attention, a senior steward first brought him a glass of water then he went and had a rest under the stand before returning, a young lady also came up to fill in some form which is probably an accident book, now all that is fine but did any of the stewards ask the paying customers if they were in any discomfort or offer drinks around to anyone nearest the smoke, I thought the stewards remit was to look after the safety of the paying customers which was in scant evidence after this "smoke bomb" was let off, they are the people who did not do their job properly and the customers had the discomfort of putting up with the stink, but with little care of duty to us.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Sept 11, 2017 6:52:14 GMT
The club know; people who work for the club know. They could stop this immediately if they really wanted to because they know who the culprits are. And yes, people who know the identities and are directly involved in the acts frequent this forum. It won't change no matter what because these people think it's a challenge / funny. We could get a points deduction and they wouldn't stop. They'll never stop until they're forced to by the law in the form of banning orders or jail time. Those are the options at this point, and I'm kind of tired of hearing about it because I know that the club know who these people are. They still might have angst about the way DE treated them!! Are you serious ffs ?!!!
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Post by essexyellows on Sept 11, 2017 12:17:56 GMT
lets be honest,it may be time for far more stringent body searches at the entrances to the East and North stands Why should the rest of us have to be subjected to full body searches just because some immature scrotes are letting these things off? Because the powers that be will go for the lowest common denominator eg: It is somebody entering the North/East Stand. Unless somebody does the sensible thing and tells them to stop or face a ban/jail.
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Post by londonroader on Sept 11, 2017 12:23:06 GMT
They still might have angst about the way DE treated them!! Are you serious ffs ?!!! As I don't know the perpetrators I can't answer that, but I did say might as it's well documented that their actions could have consequences for the club, Nothing seems to be stopping them at the moment so I think they want to cause the most discomfort to the club and that will mean DE.
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