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Post by lambchop on Oct 26, 2017 12:03:52 GMT
I forgot PC956 was here! Any chance you can get me off a parking fine? ;-)
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Post by pc956 on Oct 26, 2017 14:16:00 GMT
Quick update. Male at the Peterborough match found in possession of the flares has been banned for three years. Was that at the request of the club or the police? Investigation run by Peterborough DFO. If someone is found guilty of or pleads to a football specific offence the court has to consider a ban. The club had no involvement.
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Post by pc956 on Oct 26, 2017 14:17:38 GMT
How come the last one got a sentence as well and this is just a banning order ? Was that from the Luton fixture? If so he was on a suspended sentence I believe. Really really wasn’t worth it.
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Post by carefreeoufc on Oct 26, 2017 18:25:14 GMT
No for Plymouth away a couple of years ago. He was holding it for someone else at the time. No previous from what I can remember.
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Post by lambchop on Oct 27, 2017 15:11:58 GMT
2 things wrong with that -
1) why would you hold a smoke bomb for someone else “excuse me mate hold this while I get a burger will ya”
2) why did the “someone else” let the guy take the wrap for it? Sounds like a tosser to me.
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Post by essexyellows on Oct 27, 2017 16:01:26 GMT
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Post by concretebob on Oct 27, 2017 16:06:48 GMT
25 years old. Should know better at that age!
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Oct 27, 2017 18:48:16 GMT
Glad he didn't get a prison sentence. I don't know this plonker but that's too severe a punishment for a minor (if idiotic) offense. Let's hope the fine and banning order are enough to discourage others though.
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Post by Mark on Oct 27, 2017 22:00:21 GMT
Also shows that the culprit doesn’t need to be trying to get into the stadium to get a ban. He might have thought he’d let them off in the town centre and get away with it, but clearly not.
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Post by Junior on Oct 28, 2017 12:00:57 GMT
I thought it was initially said that he was caught outside the ground before entering?
I wonder if he fought the charge seeing as he was in the city centre.
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Post by mariokempes on Oct 28, 2017 14:21:59 GMT
Also shows that the culprit doesn’t need to be trying to get into the stadium to get a ban. He might have thought he’d let them off in the town centre and get away with it, but clearly not. Fairly sure I read a topic on this forum in the past few months where it was said if there is a football match in the City/Town and an offence is committed it is considered a football related crime. I certainly hope his ban makes any others considering carrying them or using them think twice about it. I won't hold my breath though
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Post by Eaststandboy on Oct 28, 2017 17:09:28 GMT
Also shows that the culprit doesn’t need to be trying to get into the stadium to get a ban. He might have thought he’d let them off in the town centre and get away with it, but clearly not. Fairly sure I read a topic on this forum in the past few months where it was said if there is a football match in the City/Town and an offence is committed it is considered a football related crime. I certainly hope his ban makes any others considering carrying them or using them think twice about it. I won't hold my breath though Pretty sure that's the case.
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 28, 2017 21:32:26 GMT
I'm confused from a legal perspective.
These aren't banned in the uk as I understand. They are howfecrr banned from football grounds. And that offense I understand.
But I don't understand the offense of essentially carting a non banned item around a town centre. Surely he's only committed a crime once trying to enter the stadium with it.?
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2017 0:14:24 GMT
I'm confused from a legal perspective. These aren't banned in the uk as I understand. They are howfecrr banned from football grounds. And that offense I understand. But I don't understand the offense of essentially carting a non banned item around a town centre. Surely he's only committed a crime once trying to enter the stadium with it.? You can check the fsf guidance but once you arrive “in town” on match day for instance at a train station, and you are in possession of a match ticket ( or perhaps even just being a known supporter of a team playing in that town that day), then the authorities can assume that anything you are carrying is as if you try to enter the ground with same.
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Post by mariokempes on Nov 3, 2017 16:36:50 GMT
Just said on Radio Oxford that in a Chairman's Charter all 72 EFL club's have agreed that those carrying or letting off pyrotechnics will face a minimum 3yr ban
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 3, 2017 16:43:43 GMT
If the threat of a 3 year prison sentence hasn’t put them off I’m not sure this is going to make much difference
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Post by Eaststandboy on Nov 3, 2017 19:48:33 GMT
Smoke bomb thrown in the Hyde pitch, which set a section on fire!
It is a plastic pitch and wasn't the plastics who threw it on!
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Post by saddletramp on Nov 7, 2017 10:30:50 GMT
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 7, 2017 10:35:43 GMT
The response of the authorities will be interesting! Surely they have no choice but to come down hard on IFK?
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