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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 1, 2017 20:54:34 GMT
Doesn't it now automatic roll onto who will replace pep ? 😉
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Post by malcolmnl on Jul 1, 2017 21:02:41 GMT
You're too clever for me oy.
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Post by davox on Jul 1, 2017 21:10:11 GMT
Actually I did some research before making an informed opinion which gives rise to my pessimism. Espanyol B got promoted from the third tier to the second tier and were thought of as a team that could easily get a top half finish Pep took over to at least stabilise them in the second tier and failed to do so getting them relegated. In Norway, the club he managed (Halmstads BK) were in the Allvanskan (top tier) for 19 consecutive seasons and then Clotet took over and oversaw a humiliating relegation to the Superratan (second tier). At Malaga B he was brought in to achieve promotion but failed but to be fair to him developed some promising players suggesting he's a good coach but not a good Manager. He basically failed to improve the situation and worsened clubs situation as Manager on 3 separate occasions at similar levels to League 1 when he was brought in with a specific objective being either to stabilise them or get them promoted. Failing once, maybe twice but three times??! Not encouraging. I'd prefer we go with someone who is a known quantity and has proven success as a no. 1 or if we are taking a risk, take it on Frank Lampard who players will be desperate to play for and impress. Take your point about developing a reputation in England as Monk's No. 2, again suggesting he's a good coach but zero evidence as a Manager which requires a different skill set. Hey, I'm sure you've done your own research though that gives rise to your optimism! You have literally just read his Wikipedia page and filled in all the gaps using your imagination As point of fact, researched a few different Wiki pages and club websites! Can you offer a better insight on his managerial career or can't you be bothered?
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Post by Kris Grebis on Jul 1, 2017 21:31:07 GMT
You have literally just read his Wikipedia page and filled in all the gaps using your imagination As point of fact, researched a few different Wiki pages and club websites! Can you offer a better insight on his managerial career or can't you be bothered? Yes, I can state the same facts you gave without all the embellishment in between.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 2, 2017 7:18:35 GMT
You're too clever for me oy. Could be useful for some fans if say the first 5 games don't go our way
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Post by ovaltoyou on Jul 2, 2017 8:36:30 GMT
Does anybody know if Pep is on a contract? 2 or 3 years? Sorry if I have missed it already.
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Post by holdsteady on Jul 2, 2017 8:53:35 GMT
Does anybody know if Pep is on a contract? 2 or 3 years? Sorry if I have missed it already. He will definitely be on a contract, for how long hasn't been announced yet (I don't think?)
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Post by littlemore on Jul 2, 2017 8:53:59 GMT
Does anybody know if Pep is on a contract? 2 or 3 years? Sorry if I have missed it already. Don't think it's been announced. Maybe next week when there should be some interviews with the press.
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Post by ascotyellow on Jul 2, 2017 9:08:08 GMT
You have literally just read his Wikipedia page and filled in all the gaps using your imagination As point of fact, researched a few different Wiki pages and club websites! Can you offer a better insight on his managerial career or can't you be bothered? Halmstads BK had been in decline for the previous 2 years before Pep so there were other things wrong at the club causing the decline
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 15:58:54 GMT
Long long thread this.....just need to know the term of Peps contract and then I'm sure Malcolm will close it
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Post by malcolmnl on Jul 2, 2017 17:52:16 GMT
Long long thread this.....just need to know the term of Peps contract and then I'm sure Malcolm will close it Don't know his contract details. I'm not that much in the know. And I will not be closing it down. I just hope (wishful thinking?) that our members will be sensible to post anything about our new manager in his own thread, and not in this thread of good guesses, bad guesses, and wishful thinking.
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Post by MJB on Jul 2, 2017 18:35:26 GMT
Long long thread this.....just need to know the term of Peps contract and then I'm sure Malcolm will close it Don't know his contract details. I'm not that much in the know. And I will not be closing it down. I just hope (wishful thinking?) that our members will be sensible to post anything about our new manager in his own thread, and not in this thread of good guesses, bad guesses, and wishful thinking. You're such a hypocrite Malcolm. Bet you can't resist replying to this thread, AGAIN!
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Post by leysboy on Jul 2, 2017 18:48:03 GMT
Lockdown...
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Post by bigronaldo on Jul 2, 2017 21:14:51 GMT
Certainly no lockdown... We are waiting for Sussox and oxbible to rejoin!
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 3, 2017 8:02:47 GMT
That isn't what he said though. He said that Eales is one of the best Chairman we have and anyone who thinks otherwise is a 'muppet'. On-pitch things are great, but I'm afraid you don't get to choose what people can think of a person, especially without being privy to the same information. Hang on, I never said that! You can't just take two bits and put them together to make up you own sentence. Are you a journalist? "One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real." Ummm
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Post by bigfella72 on Jul 3, 2017 8:15:38 GMT
Certainly no lockdown... We are waiting for Sussox and oxbible to rejoin! Don't you mean ragnar
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Post by lambchop on Jul 3, 2017 17:14:27 GMT
I think it'll be that bloke from Leeds Poopy Claret I think his name is
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Post by mojofilter on Jul 3, 2017 18:14:06 GMT
The real question is who is the next one going to be?
The ambiguous nature of the thread title means it can go on forever
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Post by MJB on Jul 3, 2017 20:37:39 GMT
The real question is who is the next one going to be? The ambiguous nature of the thread title means it can go on forever Frank Lampard's son.
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Post by taffyewe on Jul 5, 2017 16:29:17 GMT
Hang on, I never said that! You can't just take two bits and put them together to make up you own sentence. Are you a journalist? "One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real." Ummm That is still not what I said. The muppets I refer to are those who are not happy no matter what, but these people are the ones who will push out the chairman and send us back to where we came from. It is just unnecessarily stirring sh*t when the guy is trying to do his utmost for OUFC. I do not say that if you think Darryl is not the greatest then you are a muppet. Great journalism from you though.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 5, 2017 16:40:48 GMT
1/ no one can or will force Darryl out
2/ Offering the club back to Kassam , will certainly have sent us back to where we came from .( no I don't have the corresponding evidence, but it did happen) Some of us are happy, like when Darryl under ma advice appointed some of the best backroom staff we have ever had at the club creating a feel good factor that had been missing for decades, like when he helped achieve 2 of the best seasons in a long long time, like when he just choose a very good up and coming manager with a great reputation in the game.
But along with taking the plaudits for the successes, u also have to be able to back up or answer criticism of the faults.
Asking those difficult questions isn't having a go at him. Many of the areas are issues Darryl has identified himself. And also acknowledged that the club won't move forward without
And everyone will be delighted if he solves the issues and leads us to another promotion. While securing the clubs future off the field
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 6, 2017 7:35:51 GMT
1/ no one can or will force Darryl out 2/ Offering the club back to Kassam , will certainly have sent us back to where we came from .( no I don't have the corresponding evidence, but it did happen) Some of us are happy, like when Darryl under ma advice appointed some of the best backroom staff we have ever had at the club creating a feel good factor that had been missing for decades, like when he helped achieve 2 of the best seasons in a long long time, like when he just choose a very good up and coming manager with a great reputation in the game. But along with taking the plaudits for the successes, u also have to be able to back up or answer criticism of the faults. Asking those difficult questions isn't having a go at him. Many of the areas are issues Darryl has identified himself. And also acknowledged that the club won't move forward without And everyone will be delighted if he solves the issues and leads us to another promotion. While securing the clubs future off the field With all due respect OY how can you be so sure it happened if you have no actual evidence?
Did someone 'ITK' tell you that it happened on twitter?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 6, 2017 7:42:47 GMT
1/ no one can or will force Darryl out 2/ Offering the club back to Kassam , will certainly have sent us back to where we came from .( no I don't have the corresponding evidence, but it did happen) Some of us are happy, like when Darryl under ma advice appointed some of the best backroom staff we have ever had at the club creating a feel good factor that had been missing for decades, like when he helped achieve 2 of the best seasons in a long long time, like when he just choose a very good up and coming manager with a great reputation in the game. But along with taking the plaudits for the successes, u also have to be able to back up or answer criticism of the faults. Asking those difficult questions isn't having a go at him. Many of the areas are issues Darryl has identified himself. And also acknowledged that the club won't move forward without And everyone will be delighted if he solves the issues and leads us to another promotion. While securing the clubs future off the field With all due respect OY how can you be so sure it happened if you have no actual evidence?
Did someone 'ITK' tell you that it happened on twitter?
Afraid not. Like I've said 100 times, you don't have to believe me as you don't know me , I understand that. But I do believe who told me, they are in a position to know. Even Stewart hinted that he was led to believe the club was for sale. But wouldn't say more unless he had to to defend his integrity
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Post by taffyewe on Jul 6, 2017 14:44:23 GMT
With all due respect OY how can you be so sure it happened if you have no actual evidence?
Did someone 'ITK' tell you that it happened on twitter?
Afraid not. Like I've said 100 times, you don't have to believe me as you don't know me , I understand that. But I do believe who told me, they are in a position to know. Even Stewart hinted that he was led to believe the club was for sale. But wouldn't say more unless he had to to defend his integrity I am not in a position to say either way, but I believe, that you believe your source and you seem an honest guy. I will say though how easily a sentence or spoken words can get skewed/embellished, especially when going from person to person (Chinese whispers). It happens unintentionally, but it happens more or less everytime. For example, I can point to that exact same thing, which is what you have responded to. I said something and Tatabanya has interpreted it completely differently to what I have intended. If that was passed through another 3 people then God only knows what it would have looked like. Maybe your source heard a tongue in cheek comment? I think we have to trust what Darryl is doing and ask questions.......absolutely, but do it the right way.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 6, 2017 15:02:07 GMT
I get our point , I'm also thankful that you are trying to see it from my point of view. What I think Dennis and others are missing , which is a little ironic, is they are saying that I should trust Darryl as he's been good for oufc.
On one hand I have Darryl who has led us to great times (indisputable) but I've never met him, and on a few occasions his word has proved to be incorrect (I'll give u the media may have distorted it) and some of the other "rumours" would suggest he's not always entirely honest. (Not a dig) has no. Baring other than in my personal judgement of someone
On the other hand I have someone I do know, who is in a position to be aware of such things and who I trust. Who has also been right on many things in the past.
So where should I place my trust.
That's my starting point.
Then u start to hear the same thing from other people and places. And other hints like sd post also add in perfectly (a case of 2+2=5 possibly) but never the less.
Read back through my posts, it may take u a while, but u will see that I'm not an itk poster, I don't spread anything that I don't believe 100% to be true, and I'm normally more positive than the majority on here.
Then put urself in my position and say u had from very good authority that de had tried to sell the club to Kassam. Would that worry you? As it scares the shit out of me, not just because of who it is, but it goes against what is being said publicly about the club 1/ not being for sale and 2/ having the best interests of oufc at heart.
There again it is possible I'm 100% wrong. But I'm a fickle fucker, if Darryl keeps the players coming and we have as good as season as last year I won't care. But there are answers that could be given to make it a much smoother ride
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Post by grenobleroad on Jul 6, 2017 15:12:29 GMT
I get our point , I'm also thankful that you are trying to see it from my point of view. What I think Dennis and others are missing , which is a little ironic, is they are saying that I should trust Darryl as he's been good for oufc. On one hand I have Darryl who has led us to great times (indisputable) but I've never met him, and on a few occasions his word has proved to be incorrect (I'll give u the media may have distorted it) and some of the other "rumours" would suggest he's not always entirely honest. (Not a dig) has no. Baring other than in my personal judgement of someone On the other hand I have someone I do know, who is in a position to be aware of such things and who I trust. Who has also been right on many things in the past. So where should I place my trust. That's my starting point. Then u start to hear the same thing from other people and places. And other hints like sd post also add in perfectly (a case of 2+2=5 possibly) but never the less. Read back through my posts, it may take u a while, but u will see that I'm not an itk poster, I don't spread anything that I don't believe 100% to be true, and I'm normally more positive than the majority on here. Then put urself in my position and say u had from very good authority that de had tried to sell the club to Kassam. Would that worry you? As it scares the shit out of me, not just because of who it is, but it goes against what is being said publicly about the club 1/ not being for sale and 2/ having the best interests of oufc at heart. There again it is possible I'm 100% wrong. But I'm a fickle fucker, if Darryl keeps the players coming and we have as good as season as last year I won't care. But there are answers that could be given to make it a much smoother ride I'm going to read through your posts. Speak to you in May!
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 6, 2017 15:24:57 GMT
I get our point , I'm also thankful that you are trying to see it from my point of view. What I think Dennis and others are missing , which is a little ironic, is they are saying that I should trust Darryl as he's been good for oufc. On one hand I have Darryl who has led us to great times (indisputable) but I've never met him, and on a few occasions his word has proved to be incorrect (I'll give u the media may have distorted it) and some of the other "rumours" would suggest he's not always entirely honest. (Not a dig) has no. Baring other than in my personal judgement of someone On the other hand I have someone I do know, who is in a position to be aware of such things and who I trust. Who has also been right on many things in the past. So where should I place my trust. That's my starting point. Then u start to hear the same thing from other people and places. And other hints like sd post also add in perfectly (a case of 2+2=5 possibly) but never the less. Read back through my posts, it may take u a while, but u will see that I'm not an itk poster, I don't spread anything that I don't believe 100% to be true, and I'm normally more positive than the majority on here. Then put urself in my position and say u had from very good authority that de had tried to sell the club to Kassam. Would that worry you? As it scares the shit out of me, not just because of who it is, but it goes against what is being said publicly about the club 1/ not being for sale and 2/ having the best interests of oufc at heart. There again it is possible I'm 100% wrong. But I'm a fickle fucker, if Darryl keeps the players coming and we have as good as season as last year I won't care. But there are answers that could be given to make it a much smoother ride I'm going to read through your posts. Speak to you in May! It's like the movie inception, the further u go back, the slower time goes, by the time u have got up to present , I'll be on 100k 😂😂
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