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Post by mariokempes on Jun 30, 2017 19:03:03 GMT
I have no inside knowledge and am only going by what you lot are saying about it essentially being a done deal - mostly based upon the betting, though there is always the possibility that someone is in the know* - but it all sounds pretty promising. I'm keen to welcome the man in, and am enjoying the attempts (some far worse than others...bazzer...) at writing chants for his name. However, if it's not him I'll be just as willing to welcome the new bloke and re-immerse myself just as passionately into chant composition (anyone know any traditional Dutch chants??). Just as long as it's not another Graham Rix. *Serious, where the hell is OxBible?? I reckon OxBible is at his Prom tonight
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 19:09:56 GMT
Wrong again, he currently being consulted by Darryl on his choice of manager, if he gives the nod a press conference will be arranged and announce by oxbible in the next couple of days
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Post by milburn on Jun 30, 2017 19:13:50 GMT
I think I might be the only one whose not convinced this is a done deal! He wasn't due to stay on at Leeds anyway and as soon as he left a few people lumped on causing the bookies to close the book. I can't believe that Eales and co made a decision and offered a contract on the same day that they interview the last 50% of the shortlist!? Surely they would talk over the 6 candidates tomorrow and then offer the chosen one tomorrow evening (or even Sunday) ready to announce Monday? That all being said, I'm happy if it is Clotet...
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Post by lambchop on Jun 30, 2017 19:14:00 GMT
He better sign now as I've just had a "We are Oxford, We are Oxford Pep is our king" tattoo
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Post by tatabanya on Jun 30, 2017 19:15:14 GMT
I think I might be the only one whose not convinced this is a done deal! He wasn't due to stay on at Leeds anyway and as soon as he left a few people lumped on causing the bookies to close the book. I can't believe that Eales and co made a decision and offered a contract on the same day that they interview the last 50% of the shortlist!? Surely they would talk over the 6 candidates tomorrow and then offer the chosen one tomorrow evening (or even Sunday) ready to announce Monday? That all being said, I'm happy if it is Clotet... Betting was suspended a good hour before his social media activity, and Sky have reported that we are hopeful it'll be done by the end of the week...
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Post by stokeu on Jun 30, 2017 19:20:58 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha
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Post by scotchegg on Jun 30, 2017 19:30:25 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha No. Loads have already mentioned it!!!
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Post by gofish2 on Jun 30, 2017 19:31:45 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha Sadly no, it's been done already and is starting to make my stomach churn. Reaching for the Pepto bysmol (ok, sorry)
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Post by lambchop on Jun 30, 2017 19:36:18 GMT
BTW - if you ever see a manger in the lower leagues getting sacked, and you think it looks harsh because their results have been decent, it's almost always because they've overshot the budget. Nothing pisses a chairman off like spending his money without his permission! Or he's ****ing the chairmans wife, which would p*ss him off slightly more I'd say
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Post by taffyewe on Jun 30, 2017 19:39:05 GMT
Regardless of who the manager is, I have to say this whole process has been an eyeopener. One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real.
I wonder why Joe Kinnear used that term all those years ago.
Moving forward, we all know those who will try to bring the ship down if we are not spending millions, however let's get realistic here and not be greedy.
OUFC should aim for promotion, using the same model as we have previously.....based on sound finances and playing attractive football. If you expect our chairman to throw away money then you are highly misguided.
We got back the club that we have always wanted so lets keep it that way!
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Post by lambchop on Jun 30, 2017 19:39:10 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha That's brilliant.... don't listen to the others...that joke will never get old. We all better be PEPared for these sort of jokes
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Post by lambchop on Jun 30, 2017 19:44:39 GMT
Ok here goes - we will now be PEPpering the box #peptalk
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 30, 2017 19:46:03 GMT
Regardless of who the manager is, I have to say this whole process has been an eyeopener. One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real. I wonder why Joe Kinnear used that term all those years ago. Moving forward, we all know those who will try to bring the ship down if we are not spending millions, however let's get realistic here and not be greedy. OUFC should aim for promotion, using the same model as we have previously.....based on sound finances and playing attractive football. If you expect our chairman to throw away money then you are highly misguided. We got back the club that we have always wanted so lets keep it that way! Trouble being no one has asked him to spend extra millions, or got greedy have they. The only person infact talking about championship football constantly, and not being able to fund it, is Darryl. It's the mixed messages that have laid doubt, also down to Darryl. Fans I think have been pretty consistent, only asking for answers to reasonable questions that his statements and actions have raised
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Post by stokeu on Jun 30, 2017 19:54:39 GMT
my pepsinogens are peppily peppiest
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Post by tatabanya on Jun 30, 2017 19:59:01 GMT
Regardless of who the manager is, I have to say this whole process has been an eyeopener. One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real. I wonder why Joe Kinnear used that term all those years ago. Moving forward, we all know those who will try to bring the ship down if we are not spending millions, however let's get realistic here and not be greedy. OUFC should aim for promotion, using the same model as we have previously.....based on sound finances and playing attractive football. If you expect our chairman to throw away money then you are highly misguided. We got back the club that we have always wanted so lets keep it that way! Whilst you might be right, your attitude towards those fans is fairly hypocritical when you consider the source of your angst towards them. You obviously have different opinions of our Chairman, you have obviously had different experiences than them in your relationship with him, and you've obviously heard different stories about his behaviour. Your view that they are therefore "muppets" is just the other side of the same coin. You disagree - it doesn't mean you're right.
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Post by MJB on Jun 30, 2017 20:27:42 GMT
Are you talking about his own wages though? I get the impression oufcyellows was referring to the actual playing budget? You are quite right, apologies I completely misread the question! Sorry. Budgets, yes they are discussed. Candidates usually sign a NDA, so they can't talk about the details elsewhere, then the conversation is usually something along the lines of: 'Our current wage bill is £xxx a week, the budget is £xxx a week, do with that what you will. I shall sanction transfer fees of up to £xxx, fees above that will be on a case by case basis. You can re-invest x% of transfer fees for any players sold. Your staffing/support budget is £xxx it's currently £xxx. Any special requests that you feel that you feel you would need to do your job (particular coaches, scientists, scouting needs etc.) - now is the time to raise them. Any incoming transfer requests I shall leave you your judgement, up to the value of £xxx. Over £xxx it becomes a joint decision, and I may override you if I feel the club needs the money.' It's fairly black and white really, the chairman decides your annual budget (a lot like your jobs) - you get to spend it largely as you will, and are expected to keep it in the black (often at big clubs this is what a head/director of football does that for you) Very interesting. Thanks for the insight as ever.
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Post by shaunrice on Jun 30, 2017 20:49:43 GMT
I think I might be the only one whose not convinced this is a done deal! He wasn't due to stay on at Leeds anyway and as soon as he left a few people lumped on causing the bookies to close the book. I can't believe that Eales and co made a decision and offered a contract on the same day that they interview the last 50% of the shortlist!? Surely they would talk over the 6 candidates tomorrow and then offer the chosen one tomorrow evening (or even Sunday) ready to announce Monday? That all being said, I'm happy if it is Clotet... I think you're probably right. I don't think the deal is actually done either. But if people very close to Eales and or Pep have been told an offer is on the table then that's normally enough for a few naughty people to put a fair amount on the outcome. This leads to the market following suit and eventually betting is stopped. So it may not be done but the bookies won't take any more on it. Given the market situation would you bet against Pep?
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Post by salaghaf on Jun 30, 2017 21:00:42 GMT
I have no inside knowledge and am only going by what you lot are saying about it essentially being a done deal - mostly based upon the betting, though there is always the possibility that someone is in the know* - but it all sounds pretty promising. I'm keen to welcome the man in, and am enjoying the attempts (some far worse than others...bazzer...) at writing chants for his name. However, if it's not him I'll be just as willing to welcome the new bloke and re-immerse myself just as passionately into chant composition (anyone know any traditional Dutch chants??). Just as long as it's not another Graham Rix. *Serious, where the hell is OxBible?? I reckon OxBible is at his Prom tonight More like after school detention.
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Post by The Fence End on Jun 30, 2017 21:01:20 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha Sadly no, it's been done already and is starting to make my stomach churn. Reaching for the Pepto bysmol (ok, sorry) I can see 'Pep Abysmal' headlines if it doesn't work out! Announcement tomorrow.
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Post by salaghaf on Jun 30, 2017 21:02:14 GMT
Can I be the first to say he gives a good "Pep" talk hahaha No, but you an be the umpteenth person to say it. :-)
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 30, 2017 21:04:20 GMT
Ok. Everybody. Now is a good time to practice. When referring to the boss, the gaffer, the bloke in charge, the woman in charge, your next in charge etc.etc. This is called a MANAGER. Not a Manger, ok? A manger is something completely different, think Christmas and the baby Jesus etc.
Now then, we have also experienced many witty types on here who, convinced that Pep is our next MANAGER, would have us believe that he will deliver a wonderful PEP talk. The first time this was mentioned it was mildly amusing, thereafter it became very boring, very quickly. Perhaps more of you should read the thread before posting?
Thank you.
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Post by davox on Jun 30, 2017 21:05:59 GMT
The more I think about Pep Clotet, the less I like the idea. This guy has failed badly when he's been no 1. I think the guy found his sweet spot as a no. 2 and probably should stay there. I actually think he's a huge risk. Would prefer Lampard even though he's untested as a no 1. He doesn't come with any bad experiences as a no. 1, players would hugely respect him and he'd attract more sponsorship cash, contacts and can be guided by Faz, whereas Pep has been sacked in Spain and also failed in Norway and won't have players clamouring to play for him. I'd also prefer Alan Stubbs with an excellent record at Hibernian and good pedigree, contacts etc. I feel that Eales will see a short sighted opportunity to save cash instead of spending compensation money to get a sucessful manager on an upward curve like Archibald or Cowley who I'd have definitely liked. Obviously I hope I'm wrong because I think this could be a done deal. Most clubs will simply not take risks with Managers like we're about to do and for good reason. Yes I know some of you may say MAPP had a poor record but he was a manager of circumstance at Blackburn and Pompey and despite his record came out with credit before he came to us.
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Post by holdsteady on Jun 30, 2017 21:15:41 GMT
The bloke can be shit at every job before us, and every job after as long as he succeeds here. Plenty of managers do well in just one job so let's hope this is his one. I can't say Wilders achievements post us have improved my memories of watching the shite he served up in the fourth division so ain't that bothered if we are a staging post for a Lampard type or not.
f*ck the hype , let's just get promoted.
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Post by MJB on Jun 30, 2017 21:16:27 GMT
Ok. Everybody. Now is a good time to practice. When referring to the boss, the gaffer, the bloke in charge, the woman in charge, your next in charge etc.etc. This is called a MANAGER. Not a Manger, ok? A manger is something completely different, think Christmas and the baby Jesus etc. Now then, we have also experienced many witty types on here who, convinced that Pep is our next MANAGER, would have us believe that he will deliver a wonderful PEP talk. The first time this was mentioned it was mildly amusing, thereafter it became very boring, very quickly. Perhaps more of you should read the thread before posting? Thank you. Yes Dad.
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Post by taffyewe on Jun 30, 2017 21:17:29 GMT
Regardless of who the manager is, I have to say this whole process has been an eyeopener. One of the best chairman we have ever had and could realistically hope for and still some muppets have not been happy. I mean some people need to wake up and get real. I wonder why Joe Kinnear used that term all those years ago. Moving forward, we all know those who will try to bring the ship down if we are not spending millions, however let's get realistic here and not be greedy. OUFC should aim for promotion, using the same model as we have previously.....based on sound finances and playing attractive football. If you expect our chairman to throw away money then you are highly misguided. We got back the club that we have always wanted so lets keep it that way! Trouble being no one has asked him to spend extra millions, or got greedy have they. The only person infact talking about championship football constantly, and not being able to fund it, is Darryl. It's the mixed messages that have laid doubt, also down to Darryl. Fans I think have been pretty consistent, only asking for answers to reasonable questions that his statements and actions have raised You live on this forum, so you know know that it goes way beyond what you have said. A handful of members have clearly got it in for DE. Everyone makes mistakes, but the guy has made very few and certainly nothing that warrants some of the abuse. Why not ask Blackburn, Blackpool, Portsmouth, Leyton Orient, Charlton fans.....the list goes on, if they would like DE in charge of their clubs. We have been there many times. You want better, really? DE has said he wants us to get to the Championship and he remains focused on that vision and is providing a competitive budget. The problem is what? Maybe if he gets us to the Championship he needs to review our goals, structure, etc, but any businessman knows that you need to revisit your targets and challenge yourself to improve and not stand still. DE is shrewd, he will be the 1st to acknowledge this. He is rightly taking one step at a time.
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Post by littlemore on Jun 30, 2017 21:29:15 GMT
The more I think about Pep Clotet, the less I like the idea. This guy has failed badly when he's been no 1. I think the guy found his sweet spot as a no. 2 and probably should stay there. I actually think he's a huge risk. Would prefer Lampard even though he's untested as a no 1. He doesn't come with any bad experiences as a no. 1, players would hugely respect him and he'd attract more sponsorship cash, contacts and can be guided by Faz, whereas Pep has been sacked in Spain and also failed in Norway and won't have players clamouring to play for him. I'd also prefer Alan Stubbs with an excellent record at Hibernian and good pedigree, contacts etc. I feel that Eales will see a short sighted opportunity to save cash instead of spending compensation money to get a sucessful manager on an upward curve like Archibald or Cowley who I'd have definitely liked. Obviously I hope I'm wrong because I think this could be a done deal. Most clubs will simply not take risks with Managers like we're about to do and for good reason. Yes I know some of you may say MAPP had a poor record but he was a manager of circumstance at Blackburn and Pompey and despite his record came out with credit before he came to us. Sorry but you do not know anything about the jobs he actually had as a manager, the circumstances of the clubs such as if they had low budgets and the standards of the leagues. Since his last managerial position he has gone to coach at some very good clubs being assistant manager, this is valuable experience. Everything points to him being very knowledgeable about the game and suggests he can make it as a manager. I would also say the last 4 years in the English leagues will have meant he actually knows the players and have targets he wants and managers who he can contact about players. I actually think more players would want to play for him knowing how he operates and the good season Leeds had last season which he contributed to. I have been skeptical of Eales but I would be very happy with this appointment as it offers something new to just the standard journeyman manager and yes maybe its a risk, but its one I cannot wait to take.
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 30, 2017 21:38:47 GMT
Ok. Everybody. Now is a good time to practice. When referring to the boss, the gaffer, the bloke in charge, the woman in charge, your next in charge etc.etc. This is called a MANAGER. Not a Manger, ok? A manger is something completely different, think Christmas and the baby Jesus etc. Now then, we have also experienced many witty types on here who, convinced that Pep is our next MANAGER, would have us believe that he will deliver a wonderful PEP talk. The first time this was mentioned it was mildly amusing, thereafter it became very boring, very quickly. Perhaps more of you should read the thread before posting? Thank you. Yes Dad. You have no idea what that means to me! I can sleep easy tonight, the first time for such a long time.....
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Post by MJB on Jun 30, 2017 21:44:50 GMT
You have no idea what that means to me! I can sleep easy tonight, the first time for such a long time..... Asleep in your manger presumably?
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Post by manorlounger on Jun 30, 2017 21:46:20 GMT
You have no idea what that means to me! I can sleep easy tonight, the first time for such a long time..... Asleep in your manger presumably? Ah....... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by davox on Jun 30, 2017 22:03:03 GMT
Actually I did some research before making an informed opinion which gives rise to my pessimism. Espanyol B got promoted from the third tier to the second tier and were thought of as a team that could easily get a top half finish Pep took over to at least stabilise them in the second tier and failed to do so getting them relegated. In Norway, the club he managed (Halmstads BK) were in the Allvanskan (top tier) for 19 consecutive seasons and then Clotet took over and oversaw a humiliating relegation to the Superratan (second tier). At Malaga B he was brought in to achieve promotion but failed but to be fair to him developed some promising players suggesting he's a good coach but not a good Manager. He basically failed to improve the situation and worsened clubs situation as Manager on 3 separate occasions at similar levels to League 1 when he was brought in with a specific objective being either to stabilise them or get them promoted. Failing once, maybe twice but three times??! Not encouraging. I'd prefer we go with someone who is a known quantity and has proven success as a no. 1 or if we are taking a risk, take it on Frank Lampard who players will be desperate to play for and impress. Take your point about developing a reputation in England as Monk's No. 2, again suggesting he's a good coach but zero evidence as a Manager which requires a different skill set. Hey, I'm sure you've done your own research though that gives rise to your optimism!
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