|
Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2017 18:38:23 GMT
Sorry, didn't want to have to raise this again but have to have a say here. Sussox, one of the reasons for the boycott was to do exactly what you are moaning about: supporting the team. Boycotters boycotted because they were supporting the right of their team to exist, not to be swallowed up or sidelined by B teams. To stand up against the might of the Premier League and to say enough is enough. Ok, it failed. But there you go. As soon as that cretin Harvey started boasting about 70k at Wembley the battle was lost. A shame. Isn't that the point though? Harvey would have boasted about pretty any figure over 30k he could even have used it to his advantage if it was less saying how it's lucky the prize pot is bigger or them teams wouldn't have done as well. The boycott was never going to win directly. The only way it could possibly work is to appeal strongly to each individual club. To ours it did with Darryl promising to vote no as a club in a few weeks time. If other clubs equally listen to their fans then it won't matter a shit what that pillock thinks. If Swansea B were playing West Ham B yes. But 35 or 40k for Ox-Cov? Come on, get real
|
|
|
Post by concretebob on Apr 3, 2017 18:40:45 GMT
If Swansea B played West Ham B in the final the attendance would struggle to hit 10K IMO.
I'll admit it - secretly part of me wanted to see what happened if a B team got to the final. Just out of morbid curiosity.
|
|
|
Post by oufcyellows on Apr 3, 2017 18:46:07 GMT
Isn't that the point though? Harvey would have boasted about pretty any figure over 30k he could even have used it to his advantage if it was less saying how it's lucky the prize pot is bigger or them teams wouldn't have done as well. The boycott was never going to win directly. The only way it could possibly work is to appeal strongly to each individual club. To ours it did with Darryl promising to vote no as a club in a few weeks time. If other clubs equally listen to their fans then it won't matter a shit what that pillock thinks. If Swansea B were playing West Ham B yes. But 35 or 40k for Ox-Cov? Come on, get real Why do I need to get real? Look at the stats he has used! He will use what ever figures he wants to promote his side and totally ignore the other. If there was 30k there yesterday he would have said but look how many watched it on tv, and it's by far the biggest attendance of the comp this season. And with the additional prize money from the prem how well both clubs have done from it. The bloke is a snake that doesn't listen. That why I don't think the boycott worked directly. Indirectly the individual clubs will have hopefully taken notice and will vote with their supports and it won't matter what Harvey thinks.
|
|
|
Post by fishpaste on Apr 3, 2017 18:46:45 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports?
Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...
|
|
|
Post by concretebob on Apr 3, 2017 19:00:38 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports? Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...What terrible grammar.
|
|
|
Post by capnhaddock on Apr 3, 2017 19:01:08 GMT
Best thing about yesterday for me coming up from Exeter, meeting other Devon Yellows (as well as Devon Slky Blues), and sitting next to Tauntonyellow and chatting football and life before and after the game; meeting my Oxford family members- 11 of us at the game aged 8 to 72. Worst thing- a team performance that looked like we believed too much of the hype about what a good side we are, thinking our superiority would just bring the victory. Coventry fought all over the pitch and we only looked as hungry as them once we were 2-0 down. Me and Tauntonyellow had a great chat on the return train with Coventry Fans from Newbury who had a Swindon season-ticket holder friend with them. To be fair he was very complimentary about our football this season and I suppose that's what disappointed me most. We didn't show it on the day did we? These Division One Football fans were great though, following their team, knowledgeable, and respectful. We have won friends this season believe me.
|
|
|
Post by fishpaste on Apr 3, 2017 19:44:51 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports? Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...What terrible grammar. Shocking. Non-league grammar.
|
|
|
Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Apr 3, 2017 20:22:25 GMT
Well done to all the fans who spent their monies yesterday. Club is £500k better off. Pity the team didnt turn up. But its only one game. Lost opportunity to convert the 25k day-trippers into regulars/season ticket holders for 17/18. Great opportunity missed. Onwards & Upwards.
|
|
|
Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Apr 3, 2017 20:25:23 GMT
Thank you. It is appreciated. Wembley is an awful place to watch football. Wudnt waste my hard earned on a day out @ the national dump, playing in a meaningless match, in a competition that is meaningless Says a meaningless c*nt of a poster. What a charming chat you are. Have a good week.
|
|
|
Post by tauntonyellow on Apr 3, 2017 20:44:36 GMT
Best thing about yesterday for me coming up from Exeter, meeting other Devon Yellows (as well as Devon Slky Blues), and sitting next to Tauntonyellow and chatting football and life before and after the game; meeting my Oxford family members- 11 of us at the game aged 8 to 72. Worst thing- a team performance that looked like we believed too much of the hype about what a good side we are, thinking our superiority would just bring the victory. Coventry fought all over the pitch and we only looked as hungry as them once we were 2-0 down. Me and Tauntonyellow had a great chat on the return train with Coventry Fans from Newbury who had a Swindon season-ticket holder friend with them. To be fair he was very complimentary about our football this season and I suppose that's what disappointed me most. We didn't show it on the day did we? These Division One Football fans were great though, following their team, knowledgeable, and respectful. We have won friends this season believe me.
|
|
|
Post by moomooland on Apr 3, 2017 20:57:33 GMT
The only good thing about yesterday was the shed load of money the club made out of it.
|
|
|
Post by bigronaldo on Apr 3, 2017 21:47:27 GMT
Well, now that the dust has settled on that, I have a chance to reflect on a day with so many mixed emotions. We were in the torch beforehand, and the atmosphere was really good. But along Wembley way the reality dawned that we were Heavily outnumbered by cov fans. They, by and large, were pretty friendly. Inside the ground though, it was very disappointing that, although we were in the singing area (block 111), we were about the only ones around us that were singing, The place really never got going, although the players hardly got the party started in a stale and disjointed first-half. Their goal seemed all too easy and was annoying because they were hardly threatening. Half-time came and went all too quickly but our low key football continued. Hall was unable to get anything together and Maguire and Johnson struggled to have any influence. Once they scored their second, the writing was on the wall. We pushed on, but they seemed more than able to disrupt our play. Hemmings huffed and puffed, but there was clearly a worrying lack of a cutting edge and pace about us, not helped by our reluctance to shoot when the opportunity arose. Sercs pulled one back late on but we were not able to force a goal home. All over the pitch for large parts of the game, we were not on it, Coventry had clearly done their homework on us. Losing is shit, whatever the competition, but credit Coventry with something, they worked us over, they figured out a way to stop us from playing and we had no real answer to it. We left Wembley deflated but not distraught but the train experience on the return to Oxford was nothing short of torturous for the second year running. Our thoughts now turn to Wednesday where our season hangs on a positive result. Can they raise themselves for that? I really hope so.
|
|
|
Post by here4awhile (Cov fan) on Apr 3, 2017 21:49:49 GMT
Some inaccuracies on this thread about Robin's post match comments and which seemed more a case of what the listener wanted to hear. Also, as regards the penalty shout, seen them given, but often not. That said, it's most certainly the case that the game could have gone either way right up to the final whistle. Oxford dominated the game, but not necessarily controlled the game, which seemed to be down who was up for it the most on the day (for whatever reason). Oxford were / are clearly the stronger team physically and skill wise. All I can say is that our delight in the day was not aimed at Oxford' expense. Hope you make the play-offs, a far, far bigger prize.
|
|
|
Post by plonker on Apr 3, 2017 23:11:03 GMT
Some inaccuracies on this thread about Robin's post match comments and which seemed more a case of what the listener wanted to hear. Also, as regards the penalty shout, seen them given, but often not. That said, it's most certainly the case that the game could have gone either way right up to the final whistle. Oxford dominated the game, but not necessarily controlled the game, which seemed to be down who was up for it the most on the day (for whatever reason). Oxford were / are clearly the stronger team physically and skill wise. All I can say is that our delight in the day was not aimed at Oxford' expense. Hope you make the play-offs, a far, far bigger prize. First off, congrats. Secondly, with the win, which you will obviously revel in for some time, is there also some frustration? You've won a cup, which involves winning a series of games in a row, but have performed so badly in the league. If that was me, I would be scratching my head a little and a tad frustrated once I had time to reflect. That's not meant to be a dig or anything, it's a genuine question. Have no ill feelings towards Cov. Lastly, I thought your fans were good yesterday. Far better than your owners deserve. Edit: This was a shot of your lot from where I was sat. Taken with a 720Potato-cam mind.
|
|
|
Post by jambon46 on Apr 3, 2017 23:14:58 GMT
Fair play to Cov and Robins they worked us out-. Edwards(one of our most consistent players this season) was forced to play backwards most of the time due to their constant pressing on that side. Also I must apologise to the GAIS-Gothenburg fan who came over from Sweden for the game as Oxford is his second team and that I suggested that betting on the us winning 3-1(hope he didn't put too much on) thanks for the beer anyway-Fleetwood here we come.
|
|
|
Post by minime on Apr 3, 2017 23:41:18 GMT
My 2p's worth...
1) Edwards was poor (albeit Hall offered him no protection at all). Reid had the run of him all game and proved for their second goal. 2) Johnson is no left back which has been proved time and time again. Why no Skartz? Injured? 3) Even when MJ pushed forward he did very little. 4) Rothwell and Lundstram. Never footballers. 5) Hall was shockingly pants! Why the hell did he not square to Hemmings? If he does it's 2-2 and game on! 6) Maquire beleives he's Maradonna and Ronaldo trying to take on everyone. Beat your man and lay it off. Simple! 7) Hemmings. Never a lone striker. Even so, still looked poor. 8)(Guess) 95% of passes either went sideways or backwards! 9)(Main) goalscorer taking corners. What's all that about? Maquire needed to get in the box to score from said corners, not take them. 11 corners which offered Naff All! 10) 30-40 yard Beckham esq passes were not effective, especially to Hemmings who cannot play that game. 11) Oxford United deserved Sod all from the game 12) No pride 13) No passion 14) No Desire 15) No urgency
What a complete and utter load of tosh that performance was! If you cannot "Be up for it" against the bottom of the league and virtually relegated side in a Wembley cup final and produce that sort of dross, then there is no hope in hell that anybody on that pitch yesterday (bar maybe Eastwood) is anywhere near Championship material, and if you ask me, everyone of them should be transfer listed.
Absolute shocking p*ss poor that was and there cannot be any excuse
|
|
|
Post by chippsy on Apr 4, 2017 7:08:36 GMT
Some inaccuracies on this thread about Robin's post match comments and which seemed more a case of what the listener wanted to hear. Also, as regards the penalty shout, seen them given, but often not. That said, it's most certainly the case that the game could have gone either way right up to the final whistle. Oxford dominated the game, but not necessarily controlled the game, which seemed to be down who was up for it the most on the day (for whatever reason). Oxford were / are clearly the stronger team physically and skill wise. All I can say is that our delight in the day was not aimed at Oxford' expense. Hope you make the play-offs, a far, far bigger prize. Firstly, many congrats on the day and the result. Hope you can get things sorted as a club and work your way back up quickly. Far too big a club to be languishing in L2. It was a strange game and from speaking to people there were many different views. On the train on the way home was speaking to a Coventry fan who said you dominated the whole game. I had to disagree but instead said you were far more effective in possession whereas we had lots of possession but did not not punish. Wasn't sure whether this chap thought my comments were just soar grapes, but it really wasn't the case , it was just how I saw the game. However, but for a few missed opportunities on our part it could have good either way as you say. It's been a great season, we can't complain and we move on to Fleetwood tomorrow.
|
|
|
Post by eighteen93 on Apr 4, 2017 7:57:10 GMT
Thought Maguire was OK. Let's not forget the ball he played through to Hemmings to run on to in the second half - Hemmings lacked speed and turned back out after failing to dummy the defender (willis) who did well. Yes that was a good pass. And his free kick was very decent as well. But in general, I thought he lacked energy, was more prepared to go backward than forward and wasn't his normal self. I thought his lack of fitness showed because every time he got the ball any speed at all we had in the attack just evaporated. The last two sentences could be equally applied to more than just Maguire though. The niggling thought is that Appleton wants him here next season and denying him a Wembley appearance wouldn't have helped matters.... Maguire also produced a moment of real class after we brought it back to 2-1. Johnson played a long aerial pass up the left flank to Mags. Standing on the touchline Maguire brought the high ball down with great control and flicked the ball inside to Rothwell in one movement. Rothwell's pass then put Hall clean through on goal. It was great football. IF Hall had squared the ball to Hemmings for an open goal it would have been a fantastic team goal and talked about for years. Once Maguire was moved to the left with Marvin in the second half we did improve.
|
|
|
Post by here4awhile (Cov fan) on Apr 4, 2017 8:38:54 GMT
Firstly, many congrats on the day and the result. Hope you can get things sorted as a club and work your way back up quickly. Far too big a club to be languishing in L2. It was a strange game and from speaking to people there were many different views. On the train on the way home was speaking to a Coventry fan who said you dominated the whole game. I had to disagree but instead said you were far more effective in possession whereas we had lots of possession but did not not punish. Wasn't sure whether this chap thought my comments were just soar grapes, but it really wasn't the case , it was just how I saw the game. However, but for a few missed opportunities on our part it could have good either way as you say. It's been a great season, we can't complain and we move on to Fleetwood tomorrow.
|
|
|
Post by here4awhile (Cov fan) on Apr 4, 2017 8:44:36 GMT
(Sorry totally screwing up the editing of my reply, hence the above post..) Would totally agree with your perspective. Other than a 10 minute spell early in the second half, Oxford clearly had the upper hand. I would give the City credit though for some really determined defending (all over the field!). That - and some luck and a slice of individual skill that paid off - got us over the line. The game could have easily gone the other way. I would hope that your comments weren't taken as sour grapes. The day for us was more like a big collective hug, a last hurrah, and I didn't hear a single word against Oxford fans. plonker - as above, in terms of the general direction of the club, which is of course down the league pyramid. I think the frustrations turned into acceptance shortly after the start of the season though there are frustrations at not having (re-) hired Robins earlier rather Slade. As for the novelty of lower leagues, that passed after the first season in L1. The only novelty for L2 will be the opportunity to get to some new grounds e.g. FGR. The local derby against Solihull Moors, when we fall into the conference, should be a day out as well...
|
|
|
Post by Jonathan_Lager on Apr 4, 2017 8:54:55 GMT
My 2p's worth... 1) Edwards was poor (albeit Hall offered him no protection at all). Reid had the run of him all game and proved for their second goal. 2) Johnson is no left back which has been proved time and time again. Why no Skartz? Injured? 3) Even when MJ pushed forward he did very little. 4) Rothwell and Lundstram. Never footballers. 5) Hall was shockingly pants! Why the hell did he not square to Hemmings? If he does it's 2-2 and game on! 6) Maquire beleives he's Maradonna and Ronaldo trying to take on everyone. Beat your man and lay it off. Simple! 7) Hemmings. Never a lone striker. Even so, still looked poor. 8)(Guess) 95% of passes either went sideways or backwards! 9)(Main) goalscorer taking corners. What's all that about? Maquire needed to get in the box to score from said corners, not take them. 11 corners which offered Naff All! 10) 30-40 yard Beckham esq passes were not effective, especially to Hemmings who cannot play that game. 11) Oxford United deserved Sod all from the game 12) No pride 13) No passion 14) No Desire 15) No urgency What a complete and utter load of tosh that performance was! If you cannot "Be up for it" against the bottom of the league and virtually relegated side in a Wembley cup final and produce that sort of dross, then there is no hope in hell that anybody on that pitch yesterday (bar maybe Eastwood) is anywhere near Championship material, and if you ask me, everyone of them should be transfer listed. Absolute shocking p*ss poor that was and there cannot be any excuse Day tripper didn't get his money's worth
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Apr 4, 2017 11:14:41 GMT
Yes that was a good pass. And his free kick was very decent as well. But in general, I thought he lacked energy, was more prepared to go backward than forward and wasn't his normal self. I thought his lack of fitness showed because every time he got the ball any speed at all we had in the attack just evaporated. The last two sentences could be equally applied to more than just Maguire though. The niggling thought is that Appleton wants him here next season and denying him a Wembley appearance wouldn't have helped matters.... Maguire also produced a moment of real class after we brought it back to 2-1. Johnson played a long aerial pass up the left flank to Mags. Standing on the touchline Maguire brought the high ball down with great control and flicked the ball inside to Rothwell in one movement. Rothwell's pass then put Hall clean through on goal. It was great football. IF Hall had squared the ball to Hemmings for an open goal it would have beena fantastic team goal and talked about for years. Once Maguire was moved to the left with Marvin in the second half we did improve. I admire your faith in Hemmings. In all likelihood he would have had his shot saved or put it wide. Far too much time for him to think about it. Just like at Northampton. There is a reason no one squares to Hemmings (Martinez at Boro anyone?)...
|
|
|
Post by horseman on Apr 4, 2017 11:43:02 GMT
Well done to all the fans who spent their monies yesterday. Club is £500k better off. Pity the team didnt turn up. But its only one game. Lost opportunity to convert the 25k day-trippers into regulars/season ticket holders for 17/18. Great opportunity missed. Onwards & Upwards. win or lose would make no difference to a vast number of those there, they are not going to be "regulars" as i've indicated elsewhere it might be an idea to ask a few questions to those who just pop along for the day, not doing so is the "lost" opportunity
|
|
|
Post by unification on Apr 4, 2017 12:15:12 GMT
My 2p's worth... 1) Edwards was poor (albeit Hall offered him no protection at all). Reid had the run of him all game and proved for their second goal. 2) Johnson is no left back which has been proved time and time again. Why no Skartz? Injured? 3) Even when MJ pushed forward he did very little. 4) Rothwell and Lundstram. Never footballers.5) Hall was shockingly pants! Why the hell did he not square to Hemmings? If he does it's 2-2 and game on! 6) Maquire beleives he's Maradonna and Ronaldo trying to take on everyone. Beat your man and lay it off. Simple! 7) Hemmings. Never a lone striker. Even so, still looked poor. 8)(Guess) 95% of passes either went sideways or backwards! 9) (Main) goalscorer taking corners. What's all that about? Maquire needed to get in the box to score from said corners, not take them. 11 corners which offered Naff All! 10) 30-40 yard Beckham esq passes were not effective, especially to Hemmings who cannot play that game. 11) Oxford United deserved Sod all from the game 12) No pride 13) No passion 14) No Desire15) No urgency What a complete and utter load of tosh that performance was! If you cannot "Be up for it" against the bottom of the league and virtually relegated side in a Wembley cup final and produce that sort of dross, then there is no hope in hell that anybody on that pitch yesterday (bar maybe Eastwood) is anywhere near Championship material, and if you ask me, everyone of them should be transfer listed. Absolute shocking p*ss poor that was and there cannot be any excuse I agree with some of that, but have got to challenge the highlighted bits. Rothwell and Lundstram ARE footballers. The captain was below par but not the walking disaster some make out and Rothwell was inexplicably put on the wing, not his best position. Maguire is on corners because he's our best taker of set pieces. Penalties, free kicks and corners - he's on them all. He's not much cop at heading so best have him on those. Also, the worst corners taken all game came from Rob Hall, who would and should've been subbed had there been any alternatives for his position. Main goalscorers can be effective corner takers - Thierry Henry was on them during his Arsenal days. No pride, passion, desire. The old whinge rolled out because it's subjective and not quantifiable. I thought our players were definitely showing pride and passion and desire. What they lacked was a firm plan to break Coventry down and all to a man played significantly below their capabilities. It's a shame and a frustration, but tell those players that they didn't care out there and they'd give you a mouthful back and deservedly so. They cared because they were so close and yet so poor on the day too.
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Apr 4, 2017 12:52:20 GMT
My 2p's worth... 1) Edwards was poor (albeit Hall offered him no protection at all). Reid had the run of him all game and proved for their second goal. 2) Johnson is no left back which has been proved time and time again. Why no Skartz? Injured? 3) Even when MJ pushed forward he did very little. 4) Rothwell and Lundstram. Never footballers.5) Hall was shockingly pants! Why the hell did he not square to Hemmings? If he does it's 2-2 and game on! 6) Maquire beleives he's Maradonna and Ronaldo trying to take on everyone. Beat your man and lay it off. Simple! 7) Hemmings. Never a lone striker. Even so, still looked poor. 8)(Guess) 95% of passes either went sideways or backwards! 9) (Main) goalscorer taking corners. What's all that about? Maquire needed to get in the box to score from said corners, not take them. 11 corners which offered Naff All! 10) 30-40 yard Beckham esq passes were not effective, especially to Hemmings who cannot play that game. 11) Oxford United deserved Sod all from the game 12) No pride 13) No passion 14) No Desire15) No urgency What a complete and utter load of tosh that performance was! If you cannot "Be up for it" against the bottom of the league and virtually relegated side in a Wembley cup final and produce that sort of dross, then there is no hope in hell that anybody on that pitch yesterday (bar maybe Eastwood) is anywhere near Championship material, and if you ask me, everyone of them should be transfer listed. Absolute shocking p*ss poor that was and there cannot be any excuse I agree with some of that, but have got to challenge the highlighted bits. Rothwell and Lundstram ARE footballers. The captain was below par but not the walking disaster some make out and Rothwell was inexplicably put on the wing, not his best position. Maguire is on corners because he's our best taker of set pieces. Penalties, free kicks and corners - he's on them all. He's not much cop at heading so best have him on those. Also, the worst corners taken all game came from Rob Hall, who would and should've been subbed had there been any alternatives for his position. Main goalscorers can be effective corner takers - Thierry Henry was on them during his Arsenal days. No pride, passion, desire. The old whinge rolled out because it's subjective and not quantifiable. I thought our players were definitely showing pride and passion and desire. What they lacked was a firm plan to break Coventry down and all to a man played significantly below their capabilities. It's a shame and a frustration, but tell those players that they didn't care out there and they'd give you a mouthful back and deservedly so. They cared because they were so close and yet so poor on the day too. Yup. If in doubt, try to make out that the players weren't trying. Ha. Because when you accuse a team of no pride, passion, desire (all the same thing) you are in fact saying they are not trying as much as they can. Any sports psychologist would tell you, by the way, that trying TOO hard often results in the sort of performance Oxford put in. Tight, tense etc Coventry, on the other hand, were chilled and played with freedom. Why? Because their seaosn was not definied by Wembley. Theirs has been defined by relegation. Wembley definied our season so, actually, it meant more to us.
|
|
|
Post by lambchop on Apr 4, 2017 17:55:46 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports? Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...😂😂😂😂😂😂
|
|
|
Post by ttg17 on Apr 4, 2017 18:24:04 GMT
My 2p's worth... 1) Edwards was poor (albeit Hall offered him no protection at all). Reid had the run of him all game and proved for their second goal. 2) Johnson is no left back which has been proved time and time again. Why no Skartz? Injured? 3) Even when MJ pushed forward he did very little. 4) Rothwell and Lundstram. Never footballers.5) Hall was shockingly pants! Why the hell did he not square to Hemmings? If he does it's 2-2 and game on! 6) Maquire beleives he's Maradonna and Ronaldo trying to take on everyone. Beat your man and lay it off. Simple! 7) Hemmings. Never a lone striker. Even so, still looked poor. 8)(Guess) 95% of passes either went sideways or backwards! 9) (Main) goalscorer taking corners. What's all that about? Maquire needed to get in the box to score from said corners, not take them. 11 corners which offered Naff All! 10) 30-40 yard Beckham esq passes were not effective, especially to Hemmings who cannot play that game. 11) Oxford United deserved Sod all from the game 12) No pride 13) No passion 14) No Desire15) No urgency What a complete and utter load of tosh that performance was! If you cannot "Be up for it" against the bottom of the league and virtually relegated side in a Wembley cup final and produce that sort of dross, then there is no hope in hell that anybody on that pitch yesterday (bar maybe Eastwood) is anywhere near Championship material, and if you ask me, everyone of them should be transfer listed. Absolute shocking p*ss poor that was and there cannot be any excuse I agree with some of that, but have got to challenge the highlighted bits. Rothwell and Lundstram ARE footballers. The captain was below par but not the walking disaster some make out and Rothwell was inexplicably put on the wing, not his best position. Maguire is on corners because he's our best taker of set pieces. Penalties, free kicks and corners - he's on them all. He's not much cop at heading so best have him on those. Also, the worst corners taken all game came from Rob Hall, who would and should've been subbed had there been any alternatives for his position. Main goalscorers can be effective corner takers - Thierry Henry was on them during his Arsenal days. No pride, passion, desire. The old whinge rolled out because it's subjective and not quantifiable. I thought our players were definitely showing pride and passion and desire. What they lacked was a firm plan to break Coventry down and all to a man played significantly below their capabilities. It's a shame and a frustration, but tell those players that they didn't care out there and they'd give you a mouthful back and deservedly so. They cared because they were so close and yet so poor on the day too. While I agree that to suggest that any player could walk out in from of 70,000+ fans at Wembley and not be proud or passionate is the language of the bitter fan, you have to say that until Sercombe came on we were losing practically every man-to-man challenge with a Cov player. Be it 50/50s or second balls, their players did win the vast majority of those in the first hour. That has nothing to do with a 'firm plan', imo. I put it down to fatigue. I thought our players looked utterly out on their feet and didn't have that surge of energy that momentum can give you until Sercs came on and we scored. How ironic that the very tournament that is (part of) the reason for our players having to play 15 matches in two months, and leading to our league form suffering as a result, should have put us in the physical state not to win the bloody thing on the day in the end anyway.
|
|
|
Post by oufcyellows on Apr 4, 2017 18:36:54 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports? Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...They have even set up a fake Michael Appleton on twitter
|
|
|
Post by bashamwonderland on Apr 4, 2017 19:07:54 GMT
That actually is a bit funny
|
|
|
Post by fishpaste on Apr 4, 2017 19:39:43 GMT
Guess which team this guy supports? Nino Barone @ninobarone27
Watch out Coventry City fans, Oxford fans will have a go at you for celebrating them losing not at all the fact you won a CUP FINAL...They have even set up a fake Michael Appleton on twitter The tweet is from a Leyton orient fan. I think the AppletonGenius twitter account is Northampton.
|
|