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Post by pugs on Feb 5, 2011 17:52:04 GMT
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Post by The Fence End on Feb 5, 2011 17:55:19 GMT
Serious heart condition according to that. Wish him well whatever he does next, that's not pleasant at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 17:55:49 GMT
wish him well in the future
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Post by The Fence End on Feb 5, 2011 17:58:16 GMT
wish him well in the future, but why have the club not said anything? Cole may not want this to be shouted about. Similar thing happened to Andy Scott I seem to remember.
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Post by sihath on Feb 5, 2011 18:00:50 GMT
Really sorry for him if this is true.
Would a 'medical' not have picked this up?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 18:04:43 GMT
Some of the comments made regarding Cole have been very distasteful and based solely on people adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. My heart goes out to Mitchell who has just lost his career and I wish him well for the future.
What makes people think they have a right to know a players personal life is beyond me. It's fairly obvious why the club have been quite on the issue perhaps a few people on here should remember this incident before jumping to conclusions and insults in the future.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Feb 5, 2011 18:16:39 GMT
Some of the comments made regarding Cole have been very distasteful and based solely on people adding 2 and 2 together and coming up with 5. My heart goes out to Mitchell who has just lost his career and I wish him well for the future. What makes people think they have a right to know a players personal life is beyond me. It's fairly obvious why the club have been quite on the issue perhaps a few people on here should remember this incident before jumping to conclusions and insults in the future. There is perhaps a hint of faulty maths in this thread as we have people sure he has retired based on a fan of another club alleging he has been told by cole he has retired. There have been distasteful comments made about cole but this is not so much the fault of those making the comments as the fault of the club for not saying anything about it. Even if cole does not want the details known some kind of comment by the club to the effect that cole was not appearing due to 'personal reasons' would have ended all the wild speculation before it had time to get going.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 18:26:11 GMT
It's the lack of info from the club that would make me assume something was wrong, rather than the player being lazy. I don't believe the club needed to make any statement as it would have only drawn even more attention to the situation. I just think that some people on this forum like to jump to conclusions (see the transfer speculation threads) and it's not helpful to the players or the club.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 5, 2011 18:29:11 GMT
Really sorry for him if this is true. Would a 'medical' not have picked this up? I know a little about this type of thing. So in general terms, as nothing has been confirmed about MC, a medical will not pick up all heart conditions that impact younger people. Even a medical involving an ECG and ECHO would not pick up everything. Those who have their conditions diagnosed are lucky in that many many young people under 35 die each year from undiagnosed heart conditions. It is under reported and research shows that these type of conditions kill more people each year than cot death yet it is hardly talked about. This link is for a very good charity if you ever want to donate money to prevent young people dying of undiagnosed heart conditions. www.c-r-y.org.uk/
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Post by concretebob on Feb 5, 2011 18:47:01 GMT
Wish Mitchell the best for the future if this is true.
A statement from the club would be nice if this is true.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Feb 5, 2011 18:53:19 GMT
It's the lack of info from the club that would make me assume something was wrong, rather than the player being lazy. I don't believe the club needed to make any statement as it would have only drawn even more attention to the situation. I just think that some people on this forum like to jump to conclusions (see the transfer speculation threads) and it's not helpful to the players or the club. On the contrary, i think a club statement would have ended speculation and given the matter some closure. As it is the silence has led to all kinds of outlandish speculation and allegations flying about which have served to draw greater attention to the matter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 18:57:11 GMT
Maybe they could and should have, but we don't know the circumstances. Why don't know why the club haven't made a statement (there could be a number of reasons) and we don't know why he hasn't played. Personally I find it rather distasteful to insult the player as a first thought, that's all.
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Post by Scottish Yellow on Feb 5, 2011 18:59:24 GMT
quote from Stevenage's forum.
"Sad news for Mitchell, bumped into him before the game today, he was there with his son. He told me that he has had to retire from football 2 weeks ago due to a serious heart condition. "
Why was he at the chav's and not at Gillingham?
If this is true I too would like to wish him and his family the very best for the future.
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Post by sihath on Feb 5, 2011 18:59:54 GMT
Really sorry for him if this is true. Would a 'medical' not have picked this up? I know a little about this type of thing. So in general terms, as nothing has been confirmed about MC, a medical will not pick up all heart conditions that impact younger people. Even a medical involving an ECG and ECHO would not pick up everything. Those who have their conditions diagnosed are lucky in that many many young people under 35 die each year from undiagnosed heart conditions. It is under reported and research shows that these type of conditions kill more people each year than cot death yet it is hardly talked about. This link is for a very good charity if you ever want to donate money to prevent young people dying of undiagnosed heart conditions. www.c-r-y.org.uk/Didn't Terry Yorath's son die young from an undiagnosed heart condition?
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Post by Lone Gunman on Feb 5, 2011 19:04:56 GMT
Maybe they could and should have, but we don't know the circumstances. Why don't know why the club haven't made a statement (there could be a number of reasons) and we don't know why he hasn't played. Personally I find it rather distasteful to insult the player as a first thought, that's all. I agree and that's why i think an early statement by the club on the subject would have stopped that happening. I don't see a reason why there would be an issue with that, i think the silence has caused more damage than an official communication ever would have.
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Post by cruz on Feb 5, 2011 19:10:23 GMT
wish him well...we never got the chance to see him at his best in OUFC colours. Hope he goes on to have a long, happy and successful life.
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Post by junior1 on Feb 5, 2011 19:14:02 GMT
Sad news and I wish Mitchell and his family all the best in the future.
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Post by ian on Feb 5, 2011 19:27:32 GMT
The Cole family should realise that many people posting here are attention seeking, and type without thought... trying to make news, gossip and boost their egos/notoriety.
It does appear that the truth about M. Cole is out - and the truth is far from the silly speculation of some.
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Post by yellowsubmarine on Feb 5, 2011 19:28:54 GMT
Why was he at the chav's and not at Gillingham? Probably because he has a greater affiliation to Stevenage after only being here a few months and not playing many games. No need for questions like that at this time. It's a shame we never got to see the real Mitchell Cole. I was excited about his signing as he always looked dangerous against us. Sad news for him that he'll never play again but best wishes to him in the future
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 5, 2011 19:29:32 GMT
I know a little about this type of thing. So in general terms, as nothing has been confirmed about MC, a medical will not pick up all heart conditions that impact younger people. Even a medical involving an ECG and ECHO would not pick up everything. Those who have their conditions diagnosed are lucky in that many many young people under 35 die each year from undiagnosed heart conditions. It is under reported and research shows that these type of conditions kill more people each year than cot death yet it is hardly talked about. This link is for a very good charity if you ever want to donate money to prevent young people dying of undiagnosed heart conditions. www.c-r-y.org.uk/Didn't Terry Yorath's son die young from an undiagnosed heart condition? Yes. There are a variety of conditions that come under the term Sudden Death Syndrom (SDS). This is an umbrella term for various heart conditions, some that are a disease of the heart muscle and some that are a fault with electrical part of the heart. He died of one that effects the heart muscle. Often these conditions go undiagnosed with the first symptom being sudden death. However, many young people have symptoms which are often dismissed. In some countries like Italy they take things much more seriously and it is mandatory for all young people who participate in sport at any level even amateur to have a heart screen, including an ECG. This is because the symptoms from these conditions are often (not always) associated with exercise. If that post is from from Mitchell's mother and it is true then, yes, he truly is a brave person as psychologically you would have to be very strong to carry on playing sport after being told that.
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Post by oxfordyid on Feb 5, 2011 19:34:49 GMT
Yea fair play to him, I'm sure people wouldn't have considered putting negative comments like that about him if they knew that.. please don't take it to heart, he obviously loved the game to carry on even knowing the risks it brought..
Best wishes to him though, had really high hopes for him in an Oxford shirt at the start of this season.. big shame
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Post by yellowj on Feb 5, 2011 19:37:54 GMT
It is sad news that Mitchell has been forced to retire from the job he loves at such a young age.
I wish Mitchell and his family very best wishes for the future.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 5, 2011 19:45:22 GMT
Yes. There are a variety of conditions that come under the term Sudden Death Syndrom (SDS). This is an umbrella term for various heart conditions, some that are a disease of the heart muscle and some that are a fault with electrical part of the heart. He died of one that effects the heart muscle. Often these conditions go undiagnosed with the first symptom being sudden death. However, many young people have symptoms which are often dismissed. In some countries like Italy they take things much more seriously and it is mandatory for all young people who participate in sport at any level even amateur to have a heart screen, including an ECG. This is because the symptoms from these conditions are often (not always) associated with exercise. If that post is from from Mitchell's mother and it is true then, yes, he truly is a brave person as psychologically you would have to be very strong to carry on playing sport after being told that. Im Mitchell's mum and yes he is brave to carry on even whe he was told what could happen,but it wasn't nice for me knowing that every game could be the last i would see him,he has 2 children that have to be checked regually his condition is called (HCM) Enlarged heart!! Yes, that is the most common heart muscle condition with 1-500 people being effected and being told you had that would stop most people playing so i have full respect that he decided to carry on. I know someone personally who died of HCM although it was undiagnosed before they died and, yes, their children have to be tested regulary too as these things are often genetic.
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Post by gottagetbetta on Feb 5, 2011 19:55:56 GMT
this is very sad news, and I was reminded of the problems that Jamie Brooks had to endure. We did not see the best of Mitchell for reasons I now fully understand, I remember how excited CW was when he signed him. I wish MC and his family all the best for a long and happy future. While I understand that the club was reticent to put out any form of statement, it is to be regretted that a vacuum was created that allowed speculation to run riot. I hope that Mitchell is able to benefit from the usual insurance provisions that apply under these circumstances.
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Post by Scottish Yellow on Feb 5, 2011 19:58:50 GMT
So, with all this infomation is now time for the club to finally make a statement regarding Mitchell?
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Post by irishterrier on Feb 5, 2011 20:02:53 GMT
stop this ! the club must come out and say something!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Scottish Yellow on Feb 5, 2011 20:09:09 GMT
Without trying to sound callous does this mean it'll free up funds to help out signing Maclean?
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 5, 2011 20:12:40 GMT
Without trying to sound callous does this mean it'll free up funds to help out signing Maclean? Would not call it callous but very inappropriate.
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Post by cruz on Feb 5, 2011 20:14:09 GMT
typical Scot!...thinking about money
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Post by Mark on Feb 5, 2011 20:14:25 GMT
Doesn't Andy Scott have a similar condition? It might mean the end to a pro football career but Scott shows you can still have a football job. Whatever i am sad I haven't seen more from Mitchell in the yellow shirt than the West Ham game. Good luck to the lad.
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