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Post by 1OUFC on Aug 26, 2017 17:17:32 GMT
So reading between the lines from peps interview. He thinks Johno is a c*nt, who's attitude stinks Did he make any comment as to whether his opinion has changed regarding further signings?
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Post by diagocostapacket on Aug 26, 2017 17:22:07 GMT
Well we played a seasons worth of get out of gaol cards this afternoon. Defensively were reasonably strong but our inability to hold the ball in midfield and upfront put the back 4 under almost constant pressure especially second half when ribs and Ric were stiffled and couldn't get into any sort of attacking game. We need to sort the middle of the park out as we give away possession far too easily. Only a lone striker at home is utter folly I'm and just gives the opposition defenders a massive phsycolocical boost. Obika needs two start along side van the man. I thought shrews looked a very neat footballing side and will probably play worse than that and win. I like to think of it as point earned rather than two lost. I didn't think Williamson or Henry were much good today and Ric was very lucky the ref didn't go to specsavers. We need more consistency in the players performances but it Will come. Enjoy the BH everyone.
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Post by Bue Guado on Aug 26, 2017 17:23:46 GMT
To be fair it is the guy he mentioned and he was there. Might be two and two and getting 5 but hard to think of a different reason why he fancied watching a league 1 game today. Can't have 2 clubs. Vested interests. Most likely he couldn't be arsed to go all the way to Birmingham to watch his side play, so thought he'd pop over and introduce himself to the neighbours. Nothing to see here.
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Post by dubaiyellow on Aug 26, 2017 17:27:20 GMT
So reading between the lines from peps interview. He thinks Johno is a c*nt, who's attitude stinks Did he make any comment as to whether his opinion has changed regarding further signings? He seemed a lot more open to the idea today.
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Post by makv on Aug 26, 2017 17:29:10 GMT
To be fair it is the guy he mentioned and he was there. Might be two and two and getting 5 but hard to think of a different reason why he fancied watching a league 1 game today. Johnson -> Reading
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Post by grenobleroad on Aug 26, 2017 17:30:55 GMT
To be fair it is the guy he mentioned and he was there. Might be two and two and getting 5 but hard to think of a different reason why he fancied watching a league 1 game today. Can't have 2 clubs. Vested interests. Most likely he couldn't be arsed to go all the way to Birmingham to watch his side play, so thought he'd pop over and introduce himself to the neighbours. Nothing to see here. Well he could sell his 25%, just invest or maybe just come to strut his bow tie around oxford for the day?
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Post by grenobleroad on Aug 26, 2017 17:33:02 GMT
To be fair it is the guy he mentioned and he was there. Might be two and two and getting 5 but hard to think of a different reason why he fancied watching a league 1 game today. Johnson -> Reading Why would he come? It would be a scout or a member of the coaching team. Not saying his claim is 100 percent going to be right but maybe no need to shoot him down in flames.
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Post by Jimmy P on Aug 26, 2017 17:33:54 GMT
I thought we were extremely poor today, we lacked temp or composure and we look like a team that's been cobbled together, which to be fair we pretty much are!! Thought PC made two good subs which changed the game but thought he did very little from the sidelines to change what was happening in the first half.
I am pretty confident that the quality of the players will come through and we will be up there at the end of the season but the ease that Shrewsbury out muscled us and stifled our midfield foes need to be addressed
I've not seen us do far, so was pretty disappointed and the negativity around us today, certainly after two wins out of three
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Post by Bue Guado on Aug 26, 2017 17:41:02 GMT
Why would he come? It would be a scout or a member of the coaching team. Not saying his claim is 100 percent going to be right but maybe no need to shoot him down in flames. My Mrs told me that if I hadn't used my flamethrower by the end of the weekend then she would consider it another piece of pointless junk in the garage, and that she'd give it to Oxfam. Speaking of which, I recently saw some pretty snazzy bow ties in my local Oxfam. Perhaps Mr. Thanakarnjanasuth likes to support charities as well as dress prim?
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Post by Toeby on Aug 26, 2017 17:41:42 GMT
New breaking news from oxbible Free pad thai at away games.
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Post by manorlounger on Aug 26, 2017 18:03:55 GMT
Aside from just being poor overall today we also played 4-4-1-1 against 3-5-2 no wonder we saw very little of our midfield.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 26, 2017 18:06:21 GMT
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Post by oufcbenjyp on Aug 26, 2017 18:10:31 GMT
Pretty disjointed performance all in all. Hardly surprising really, early season and 12 new signings...
For me Hall was a big disappointment, defensively nowhere at times and lacking confidence in attack, right decision to be subbed.
A lot of huff and puff from Payne, we are as reliant on him currently as we were with Maguire this time last year. Bit concerning if he does go back in Jan.
Was it me or did Ledson look a bit short of fitness towards the end? I know he's in the engine room and 90 minutes is a big ask but he looked leggy towards the end. I suppose I just wasn't expecting that from a 20 year old at the start of the season.
Definite foul by the Brazilian master at left back, he is a lucky boy. I also love the way he plays the game.
All in all, take the point, Shrewsbury were far better than I was expecting, we weren't quite at it today.
Phone interview after the game showed Pep as flustered as we have heard him to date. Wouldn't be drawn on signings or Johnson although reading between the lines there has been a falling out no question.
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Post by winchesterox on Aug 26, 2017 18:12:50 GMT
We were really poor and Shrews were really good. Score 1-1.
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Post by eighteen93 on Aug 26, 2017 18:17:46 GMT
Aside from just being poor overall today we also played 4-4-1-1 against 3-5-2 no wonder we saw very little of our midfield. It was that obvious was n't it - we were outnumbered and outpowered. The only positive was Obika who looks in great shape and needs to start at MK. The best moment of the game was Obika running into the box down the right channel and rolling his studs on top of the ball before firing in a powerful right footed shot that should have been followed up. Payne never gives up despite having some difficult moments. Think Ribs will lose his place when Tiendalli gets match fit. Shrewsbury looked a big strong side and much better than last season.
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Post by brassmonkey on Aug 26, 2017 18:19:45 GMT
Disappointed pep didn't change the formation in the first half. We were overrun in midfield and they just played through us at will. Countless times we lost the ball to awful passing. we looked like a different team to last week. Obika changed the game. He actually could control a ball, beat a player and shoot.
Payne I thought was poor. He runs around a lot but kept on losing the ball everytime he had it.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Aug 26, 2017 18:33:38 GMT
Pep definitely should've changed the formation first half, Ruffles and Ledson were overrun in the midfield because they had the extra man. The option to go to a 433 was there and i am confused as to why PEP didn't use it. Last time a 3 man midfield played against us (from what i can remember) was Bristol Rovers and the same thing happened then. Williamson was awful on the ball today, took too long to make a decision or kept over hitting his passes. It got to the point where it looked he was relying on Ricardinho (who looked excellent again) to get the ball out of defense. Obika aswell looked good today held the ball up and was quick and powerful. The one thing he lacked today was an accurate strike. He had three good chances to score and 2 of them where straight at the keeper. If PEP and the coaches can get Jon to improve on that then he would for sure be our first choice number 1.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Aug 26, 2017 18:53:55 GMT
Well we played a seasons worth of get out of gaol cards this afternoon. Defensively were reasonably strong but our inability to hold the ball in midfield and upfront put the back 4 under almost constant pressure especially second half when ribs and Ric were stiffled and couldn't get into any sort of attacking game. We need to sort the middle of the park out as we give away possession far too easily. Only a lone striker at home is utter folly I'm and just gives the opposition defenders a massive phsycolocical boost. Obika needs two start along side van the man. I thought shrews looked a very neat footballing side and will probably play worse than that and win. I like to think of it as point earned rather than two lost. I didn't think Williamson or Henry were much good today and Ric was very lucky the ref didn't go to specsavers. We need more consistency in the players performances but it Will come. Enjoy the BH everyone. More or less yes. We started with the wrong set-up: we shouldn't be playing a lone striker and if we must GVK is just not capable, it's not his game. He perked up after Obika came on and I think he's pretty decent. But the first half was a tactical disaster - I can see how 'keeping it tight' is a tactic but this was just piling pain on the back 4. Which wasn't helped by Hall being lightweight and Henry not offering much going forward: Ledson & Ruffels are ok but they were struggling. What was different between the teams was that Shrewsbury did movement; we did nothing, which is worrying for a team that wants to counter-attack if that's what we want. I'm running into Bordeaux Superior world, so: Payne tried hard, Ricardhino was worth the price of admission - what a player, we're privileged to have him. I hope we can keep him and the players he made look like donkeys can rise to his standard - he was three thoughts ahead q lot of the time.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Aug 26, 2017 18:59:29 GMT
It was that obvious was n't it - we were outnumbered and outpowered. The only positive was Obika who looks in great shape and needs to start at MK. The best moment of the game was Obika running into the box down the right channel and rolling his studs on top of the ball before firing in a powerful right footed shot that should have been followed up. Payne never gives up despite having some difficult moments. Think Ribs will lose his place when Tiendalli gets match fit. Shrewsbury looked a big strong side and much better than last season. Yes, good post... Obika should definitely start and Ribs needs to buck his ideas up or he will be bench warming for the rest of the season. I like him, as I think he fits the bill as an attacking wing back and he's very good at it, but if he cant get forward his defensive game tends to suffer and he's decidedly average. He plays as though he's afraid of the ball and needs to attack It more. I still think we have a squad capable of challenging but as a I said we need the players to be more consistant and certainly more direct... one good game, one bad game isn't good enough. I'm afraid I couldn't give anyone more than a 5 today apart from perhaps Eastwood who I would give a 7.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 26, 2017 19:02:10 GMT
We shouldn't let the point gained sway our judgement - that was an awful performance.
Shrewsbury would have won that nine times out of ten. They were better organised, had more pace (especially out wide) and were more energetic both in and out of possession. If they had a striker worth the name they would have put away another one of the excellent chances they made.
We, on the other hand, were sluggish and largely uninventive. 'Movement off the ball' is obviously a phrase that has got lost in translation. And my god, rolling the ball out to players already being closed down, whose only out ball is across the field to another player now being closed down even more, who has no choice other than to pass back to the keeper who then punts it up the field anyway! What on earth does that achieve? We actually created very few chances worth mentioning. It's obvious that this team needs to play together more, so I'd play as many of them as possible in the Stevenage match. This match was one to forget.
Before we do though - a mention for the referee and his useless assistant on the South Stand touchline. Shrewsbury were denied a stone-wall penalty, they gave goal kicks when they should have been corners, didn't play advantage when they should have and in one comedy filled ten seconds, missed two hand balls and an offside. Not to mention the shirt pulling, pushes and arms around the neck - which I could see from considerably further away and without my glasses on. His performance was as terrible as ours.
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Post by eighteen93 on Aug 26, 2017 19:11:52 GMT
You also could mention the incident in the second half when Hall was fouled 2 yards outside the box , left side, but the ref allowed play to continue. It was a clear foul and a clear free kick.
We barely got a decision all afternoon although I am not convinced it was a Shrews pen. in the first half when their player went to Ground too easily.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 26, 2017 19:18:47 GMT
We barely got a decision all afternoon although I am not convinced it was a Shrews pen. in the first half when their player went to Ground too easily. No it was a clear push (from the east stand). He did fall over a bit easily - which forwards don't nowadays! - but it was definitely a foul. The Hall one was a foul too, I agree with you. The ref was all over the shop all afternoon.
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Post by lukehudson on Aug 26, 2017 19:34:29 GMT
Hall and Henry today was both very static and didn't offer much or make runs and when the ball was there feet they struggled to do anything with it. GVK on the wing and Obika up top is a must for MK and Rothwell was good when he came on too. Need a few more ins this week if we want to go for play offs.
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Post by brassmonkey on Aug 26, 2017 19:40:19 GMT
Would have been a red card as well If the pen was given. Last man and all.
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Post by joey on Aug 26, 2017 20:05:51 GMT
A hard match punctuated by an odd performance from the officials. I'm not sure what needed to happen to get a free kick in the second half for us, and the lack of penalty in the first was bewildering. Considering the numerous soft free kicks they got all game, we weren't obliged for much of anything. The corner we didn't get was a shocker - the lino and ref looked at each other and bottled it. I felt sorry for Nelson as he kept getting taken out and nary a play from the Ref Gino cannot play the lone striker role - he just didn't look interested and came alive once Obika came on. Hall was terrible and cost us when he was on the pitch. He didn't get into the game. Not the end of the world, but we need at least more bodies in the squad for me. Do you think there'll ever be a game where you don't complain about the ref after? As far as I could see he was well in credit with us for not giving them a pen and sending Ricardinho off after 20 minutes. Constantly blaming officials and making excuses take a responsibility away from the team and their performance. Regarding the game, Christ we played so deep. It was like an away performance trying to nick something on the counter. We left Gino completely isolated up top, there was space behind their defence but we were hitting long balls from so far away that by the time ita reached him hes got a defender up his arse and won't win the header. If you're going to play him up there then the man off him has to be much closer, trying to play balls through from 10/20 yards. We seemed stuck between attack and defence again today, in the first half we didn't commit anyone forward, second half when the subs came on sometimes we had plenty of men up there and looked a bit dangerous but we got caught on the break a few times. Very early days and I'm sure when Pep's had more time with the team we'll get the balance a bit better.
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Post by greatunclekip on Aug 26, 2017 20:22:12 GMT
You must have hated the first couple of weeks with nothing to moan about!! He's loving it now we haven't won. Pathetic person, must have nothing to live for Oh come on Robert. I hate us losing. Im just honest in my opinions.
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Post by littlemore on Aug 26, 2017 20:42:37 GMT
Who do we think will be on pens if Marvin leaves?
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Post by charliesghost on Aug 26, 2017 20:46:58 GMT
Yup, we weren't great, but Mr pep will be learning all the time about what is going to work and what isn't (Gino at centre forward won't).
Shrewsbury like Scunthorpe were a really good league 1 side. Four games in, we have been better than Oldham and pompey and not as good as scunny and Shrewsbury. So we are a midtable, maybe upper midtable side.
As I said after scunny, we really do need a centre forward. Time and again, Payne would scurry forward looking for an option and realise that no-one was making a smart run. And if Marvin goes we need at least one player with searing pace. At present we are struggling to get in behind a decent defence.
But given the upheavals, and lots of good players leaving, it's no disaster and we shouldn't over-react.
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Post by littlemore on Aug 26, 2017 21:00:56 GMT
Gino as a forward can work but maybe just not in this formation which is probably best suited to Obika.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 26, 2017 21:54:54 GMT
A hard match punctuated by an odd performance from the officials. I'm not sure what needed to happen to get a free kick in the second half for us, and the lack of penalty in the first was bewildering. Considering the numerous soft free kicks they got all game, we weren't obliged for much of anything. The corner we didn't get was a shocker - the lino and ref looked at each other and bottled it. I felt sorry for Nelson as he kept getting taken out and nary a play from the Ref Gino cannot play the lone striker role - he just didn't look interested and came alive once Obika came on. Hall was terrible and cost us when he was on the pitch. He didn't get into the game. Not the end of the world, but we need at least more bodies in the squad for me. Do you think there'll ever be a game where you don't complain about the ref after? As far as I could see he was well in credit with us for not giving them a pen and sending Ricardinho off after 20 minutes. Constantly blaming officials and making excuses take a responsibility away from the team and their performance. Regarding the game, Christ we played so deep. It was like an away performance trying to nick something on the counter. We left Gino completely isolated up top, there was space behind their defence but we were hitting long balls from so far away that by the time ita reached him hes got a defender up his arse and won't win the header. If you're going to play him up there then the man off him has to be much closer, trying to play balls through from 10/20 yards. We seemed stuck between attack and defence again today, in the first half we didn't commit anyone forward, second half when the subs came on sometimes we had plenty of men up there and looked a bit dangerous but we got caught on the break a few times. Very early days and I'm sure when Pep's had more time with the team we'll get the balance a bit better. If you don't like me commenting on Refs, so be it, but if I see an inconsistent performance, I say it. I don't care what is given, as long as it's consistent for both sides. The nature of the game dictates that both sides will get free kicks because both teams will break the rules, hence why I found it strange we struggled in that regard. We found it hard with Hall and Ricardinho on one side. Hall's positioning was all over the place and his work rate was off which meant they had overloads available and lots of space to work in. When Pep made the change with Henry and Hall, we looked more solid and started to play more than we had. Their channels balls were suddenly not on and the CBs looked more comfortable. Obika made such a difference when he came on - pace, power and work rate - must not be fully fit to be on the bench. Rothwell was the one that got us going though. He was everything Hall wasn't today. But we did miss Marv's pace and skill out wide today. I'm not sure what Eastwood was doing rushing out like that. Let the defenders deal with that as Morris was not going to score from there.
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