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Post by foley on May 10, 2017 13:20:46 GMT
You haven't got an absolute clue. Come to the OXVOX AGM at the end of the month, you might learn something. What for? All these said was that Oxvox have been in talks for over a year as Kuntsam will not sell to an individual but a community back group m, so did Kuntsam know for some time that JS may buy Kuntsam out if so we're Oxvox informed of this way back or has this just come to light in the last 48 hrs or so. Honest question, and if JS is successful then I hope he is for the good of OUFC Er why don't you want to go to the Oxvox AGM where you will no doubt hear the facts ....??
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Post by oxfordyankee on May 10, 2017 13:21:06 GMT
Seems to me that in a time of confidentiality clauses, the leaking of this story to all and sundry, particularly the part about JS meeting FK, is a deliberate and cynical act.
Someone is determined to be seen as the good guy.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 10, 2017 13:31:16 GMT
Ok here's another thought. (Bare with)
Stewart said the community deal largely relied on him chucking in £10/12m. Which due to the income it would generate, he was having to consider if this was worth the investment, or basically him just loaning de the money (I may have misquoted some of that)
Js meets with sd and oxvox.
The community deal is held up due to a couple of complications.
Js has priced agreed for club and is due to meet fk.
Now what if it's not to buy the stadium (as firoz has said he won't). But instead to be the main financier of the community deal? Would make more sense to him rather than sd, as he would get the freedom to do as he pleases, as well as then also getting the benefits of any profit as he would be the main backer. The club would pay less or no rent, as both would be largely owned by the same person, and the stadium would be back under the club umbrella, not being able to split off again in future .
Wishful thinking ?
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Post by myles on May 10, 2017 13:32:03 GMT
Someone is determined to be seen as the good guy. I wouldn't disagree with that...
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Post by swissyellow on May 10, 2017 13:47:07 GMT
Why? Good question, I can sort of answer that 1) A Challenge, its a game, played out in real life - its fun owning a club, stressful but it has its high points 2) Wanting to do good in the community. Sports clubs bring real benefits to areas and regions, this aspect feeds on the philanthropist in them 3) To make money, there are VAST sums of money to be made at top flight football. Either via transfer fees or TV revenues. Is he into his ice hockey ? 😉 LETS HOPE SO!!
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Post by whitstablexile on May 10, 2017 13:48:42 GMT
this time next year Rodney....
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May 10, 2017 13:55:58 GMT
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Post by greatunclekip on May 10, 2017 13:55:58 GMT
An absolutely petrifying developmemt. At a time when Leyton Orient and Blackburn are tumbling down the leagues under owners promising a brave new dawn.
Fingers crossed this guy is one of the good ones.....
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Post by The Fence End on May 10, 2017 13:57:13 GMT
Seems to me that in a time of confidentiality clauses, the leaking of this story to all and sundry, particularly the part about JS meeting FK, is a deliberate and cynical act. Someone is determined to be seen as the good guy. Both the Oxford Mail and BBC Oxford both reported it within 10 minutes of each other this morning. Same source? Can't blame them, they get a scoop and report it, that's their purpose. Is it in the public interest? Absolutely, look at the size of this thread.
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Post by The Fence End on May 10, 2017 14:07:31 GMT
An absolutely petrifying developmemt. At a time when Leyton Orient and Blackburn are tumbling down the leagues under owners promising a brave new dawn. Fingers crossed this guy is one of the good ones..... That's the risk I'd rather not take.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 10, 2017 14:15:04 GMT
An absolutely petrifying developmemt. At a time when Leyton Orient and Blackburn are tumbling down the leagues under owners promising a brave new dawn. Fingers crossed this guy is one of the good ones..... That's the risk I'd rather not take. What's your preferred alternative? Have a budget and chairman that are comfortable at the lower end of this league, losing the manager and some of the better players we've become used to watching ?
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May 10, 2017 14:18:18 GMT
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 10, 2017 14:18:18 GMT
Obviously with the size of this thread lots of questions are being asked, if the takeover goes ahead and tits for both the stadium and club, I hope before the new season starts the club will hold a public forum to outline what they want and what they are going to do.
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Post by The Fence End on May 10, 2017 14:19:44 GMT
That's the risk I'd rather not take. What's your preferred alternative? Have a budget and chairman that are comfortable at the lower end of this league, losing the manager and some of the better players we've become used to watching ? Better the devil you know.
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Post by myles on May 10, 2017 14:22:27 GMT
Obviously with the size of this thread lots of questions are being asked, if the takeover goes ahead and tits for both the stadium and club, I hope before the new season starts the club will hold a public forum to outline what they want and what they are going to do. I think it's about time we had a proper fans' forum, regardless of who the owners are.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 10, 2017 14:24:02 GMT
What's your preferred alternative? Have a budget and chairman that are comfortable at the lower end of this league, losing the manager and some of the better players we've become used to watching ? Better the devil you know. Don't see how kylie is going to help
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Post by oxfordyankee on May 10, 2017 14:24:48 GMT
Oh, I don't blame them.
I'm more interested in why it was leaked.
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 10, 2017 14:26:55 GMT
Obviously with the size of this thread lots of questions are being asked, if the takeover goes ahead and tits for both the stadium and club, I hope before the new season starts the club will hold a public forum to outline what they want and what they are going to do. I think it's about time we had a proper fans' forum, regardless of who the owners are. The last one I went to was the one at the Oxford bowls club and was quite informative since then I have seen a couple 30'min programmes on FB get to back to real people forums face the public and questions to be asked and it cherry picked. If a takeover is successful for both the ground and the club as I've said I hope DE stays on as chairman and he along with JS & MAPP can have an attended forum to let us know what the aim is for OUFC we know we all want a minimum championship but with Sartorial possibly being involved would be nice to know his aims.
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Post by Maurice Earp on May 10, 2017 14:27:27 GMT
Oh, I don't blame them. I'm more interested in why it was leaked. And who leaked it!
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 10, 2017 14:38:30 GMT
Seems to me that in a time of confidentiality clauses, the leaking of this story to all and sundry, particularly the part about JS meeting FK, is a deliberate and cynical act. Someone is determined to be seen as the good guy. Both the Oxford Mail and BBC Oxford both reported it within 10 minutes of each other this morning. Same source? Can't blame them, they get a scoop and report it, that's their purpose. Is it in the public interest? Absolutely, look at the size of this thread. I would assume there is a soft embargo in place so that one didn't out scoop the other. Wherever it came from
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Post by leysboy on May 10, 2017 14:40:00 GMT
This could be good fun... he being South American might bring in the Argentines. Horacio Rodriguez, and Ramon Diaz unfinished business...
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Post by headingtonutd on May 10, 2017 14:49:15 GMT
Map has a great relationship with Eales - if Eales leaves Mapp will follow. Maybe a new chairman will be grreat, maybe they will bring in another brilliant manager who knows, I would much prefer to keep Eales and Mapp and let them finish what they started. Surely they would both move on to another football club? It's exciting and nervous times all at the same time!! No reason to think that at all. If DE was selling, which people seem to forget is TOTALLY his choice and in his hands, then why would he jump to a new club? You'd have thought he is selling because he wants out? And why would Mapp automatically follow? If a very rich new owner told him he'd have greater funds and facilities without the risk of moving then why would he? The only scenario I see where it might happen is if DE gets hold of Birmingham and gets him in but then he said himself he can't fund a championship drive alone. As much as they have more resources I would doubt DE could afford to buy them and then fund all that. The present owners have deeper pockets and are not looking in such great shape.
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Post by Yellow River on May 10, 2017 14:55:52 GMT
This could be good fun... he being South American might bring in the Argentines. Horacio Rodriguez, and Ramon Diaz unfinished business... Looking forward to the return of Mateo Corbo, league 1 wingers be afraid, be very afraid.
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Post by manorman on May 10, 2017 14:56:55 GMT
Whatever is going on the timing is awful for Mapp who is trying to get deals done with existing and potential targets. I am sure players (and managers) would far rather sign for a club with some stability and not where ownership is under massive speculation.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 10, 2017 14:59:21 GMT
You've got to think with the timing of the OUFC AGM that those involved are convinced this will be all done and dusted by the end of May otherwise it was a bloody odd move to hold it then!
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 10, 2017 15:00:06 GMT
Whatever is going on the timing is awful for Mapp who is trying to get deals done with existing and potential targets. I am sure players (and managers) would far rather sign for a club with some stability and not where ownership is under massive speculation. I wouldn't be so sure. Any deal shouldn't affect available funds made available as DE can recoup that in the sale of the club. If anything it would mean players might be more attracted to OUFC seeing that a take over could happen.
Remember as well it wont be rumours as far as MApp is concerned. I am sure he is fully aware of any potential take over if one is happening.
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Post by myles on May 10, 2017 15:05:19 GMT
Oh, I don't blame them. I'm more interested in why it was leaked. And who leaked it! Coming a couple of days after the rumoured OUFC staff meeting...
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Post by bullytheox86 on May 10, 2017 15:05:35 GMT
I'd imagine (well, know!) that OxVox will want what is best for the club. Given that the Right to Bid (or whatever it's called) is still in place, you would imagine that IF Sartori wants to buy the stadium as well and IF Kassam agrees then OxVox would also be told what the plans and guarantees are for the stadium going forward. If indeed it is to be our home in the long term. If OxVox's talks about the Community Ownership come to nothing that is an outcome that was possible all along - but it might stall for very different reasons than we expected! It seems to me like what I thought before Kuntsam has strung Oxvox along, unless off course they knew all along that JS was going to buy Bazzer i said to Oxvox could be a smokescreen. And they can't just say all that they know
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Post by leysboy on May 10, 2017 15:08:21 GMT
This could be good fun... he being South American might bring in the Argentines. Horacio Rodriguez, and Ramon Diaz unfinished business... Looking forward to the return of Mateo Corbo, league 1 wingers be afraid, be very afraid. That lad was a beast.
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Post by Yellow River on May 10, 2017 15:13:02 GMT
Looking forward to the return of Mateo Corbo, league 1 wingers be afraid, be very afraid. That lad was a beast. My avatar is the result of one of his tackles.
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Post by Common Villager on May 10, 2017 15:19:36 GMT
Whatever is going on the timing is awful for Mapp who is trying to get deals done with existing and potential targets. I am sure players (and managers) would far rather sign for a club with some stability and not where ownership is under massive speculation. I highly doubt the deal has only just been concluded. I am sure that Appleton will have been aware of the deal for a little while now.
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Post by battman on May 10, 2017 15:41:39 GMT
I'd like to feel cautiously optimistic on this one. The fact that JS is a self-made man and already has one big connection in the footballing world are encouraging signs. Wouldn't want to see DE leave completely however, but it's looking inevitable that he can't fund this club alone for the long term.
In terms of the stadium, didn't Kassam say something along the lines of 'he wouldn't sell it to one individual'? I'm happy to stand corrected if I'm wrong, but that wouldn't rule out a joint bid for the stadium involving JS, Stewart Donald and OxVox in some form of consortium.
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