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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 19, 2017 7:54:33 GMT
There are clubs I can imagine Appleton being tempted by. Watford aren't one of them. Don't be silly. He'd be insane to turn down that job I presume and hope you are joking? A club where he won't get to pick his own players and (even successful) managers in recent times last less than a year? A club who one would have to think are at the pinnacle of their likely achievements, with 'not being relegated' as the main aim? Does he speak Italian? Despite all that, I suppose it is a Prem club - but I still can't see it, especially given Appleton's previous managerial history.
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Post by ovaltoyou on May 19, 2017 8:16:44 GMT
It will happen one day. He has done such a great job SO FAR at United and is still developing the side, so I hope any money offered is matched by what we can afford. But unfortunately as we know money talks a lot in football now and he is an ambitious man.
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Post by socrates on May 19, 2017 8:54:18 GMT
Don't be silly. He'd be insane to turn down that job I presume and hope you are joking? A club where he won't get to pick his own players and (even successful) managers in recent times last less than a year? A club who one would have to think are at the pinnacle of their likely achievements, with 'not being relegated' as the main aim? Does he speak Italian? Despite all that, I suppose it is a Prem club - but I still can't see it, especially given Appleton's previous managerial history. Of course I'm not joking. Any League One manager who backed himself would walk to Watford for that job. Christ. It's a step from League One to the PL!! If any English manager went there and kept them up he would be the new Messiah. Mapp's career would never look back. Not that I think that Watford have a clue who he is, though
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Post by ZeroTheHero on May 19, 2017 8:58:59 GMT
Their owner wants more than that though. The present manager has kept them up - and got sacked. Another short term appointment (where you have little control of who your players are) is - IMO - not what Appleton needs on his CV. But we will have to agree to differ. It's academic anyway, as it won't happen - as you say, they have probably never heard of him back in Italy.
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Post by trevorhebberd on May 29, 2017 21:26:33 GMT
With it looking like Paul Cook is going to be the new Wigan boss, let's hope MAPP's name doesn't come up as a likely replacement.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 15:59:38 GMT
Wolves are now looking for a new manager
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Post by holdsteady on May 30, 2017 16:57:46 GMT
Wolves are now looking for a new manager They are after some Portuguese bloke apparently. Most clubs above us want a big name/foreigner/ mix of those two so I can't get to worked up about rumours. Appleton is a manager at a time when it has never been harder for young English managers to get a job and/or progress up the ladder, the ever growing foreign ownership will just see that trend continue. I am pretty certain that the only way Appleton is getting a championship job is by getting promoted up there, not exactly a lot of clubs in a better position than us to do that with.
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Post by sussox on May 30, 2017 19:29:31 GMT
Wolves are now looking for a new manager They are after some Portuguese bloke apparently. Most clubs above us want a big name/foreigner/ mix of those two so I can't get to worked up about rumours. Appleton is a manager at a time when it has never been harder for young English managers to get a job and/or progress up the ladder, the ever growing foreign ownership will just see that trend continue. I am pretty certain that the only way Appleton is getting a championship job is by getting promoted up there, not exactly a lot of clubs in a better position than us to do that with. Wigan, Blackburn, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford City, Bristol Rovers, Milton Keynes Dons, Charlton, Fleetwood Town, Scunthorpe United....
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Post by sussox on May 30, 2017 19:44:05 GMT
Would he go back to Portsmouth? New owner, bigger budget.
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Post by holdsteady on May 30, 2017 19:47:49 GMT
They are after some Portuguese bloke apparently. Most clubs above us want a big name/foreigner/ mix of those two so I can't get to worked up about rumours. Appleton is a manager at a time when it has never been harder for young English managers to get a job and/or progress up the ladder, the ever growing foreign ownership will just see that trend continue. I am pretty certain that the only way Appleton is getting a championship job is by getting promoted up there, not exactly a lot of clubs in a better position than us to do that with. Wigan, Blackburn, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford City, Bristol Rovers, Milton Keynes Dons, Charlton, Fleetwood Town, Scunthorpe United.... MK Dons? Charlton? Pretty certain we just finished above them. Scunthorpe and Fleetwood are hardly attractive clubs. He deffo ain't going back to Pompey or Blackburn. Wigan have just appointed someone, Bradford ain't sacking McCall and Plymouth only just got promoted. See, not many clubs.
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Post by sussox on May 30, 2017 20:04:09 GMT
Wigan, Blackburn, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford City, Bristol Rovers, Milton Keynes Dons, Charlton, Fleetwood Town, Scunthorpe United.... MK Dons? Charlton? Pretty certain we just finished above them. Scunthorpe and Fleetwood are hardly attractive clubs. He deffo ain't going back to Pompey or Blackburn. Wigan have just appointed someone, Bradford ain't sacking McCall and Plymouth only just got promoted. See, not many clubs. You said there aren't many clubs in a better position to get promoted as us. The clubs I listed are in an equal or better position. You could include Rotherham if they pick up some form of parachute payment. These clubs will have budgets the same or bigger than us.
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Post by mcf86 on May 30, 2017 20:10:26 GMT
Mapp and DE, both key to our success and unless there's major changes at the top of the club pre-season I anticipate both being here for another season at least. Mapp can get us into the championship I'm pretty confident of that, depending on what budget he's getting, the big question mark is over who will own the club if this should be achieved, and since DE has stated he cannot sustain us at the next level (On his own) there has to be changes. It's all gone very quiet at Grenoble rd, and not solely because it's close season.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on May 30, 2017 20:18:04 GMT
Would he go back to Portsmouth? New owner, bigger budget. You do post some cr*p, don't you?
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 30, 2017 20:21:44 GMT
Would he go back to Portsmouth? New owner, bigger budget. Wtf are you some sort of doom merchant or so you just wish I'll health on OUFC.
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Post by holdsteady on May 30, 2017 20:28:00 GMT
MK Dons? Charlton? Pretty certain we just finished above them. Scunthorpe and Fleetwood are hardly attractive clubs. He deffo ain't going back to Pompey or Blackburn. Wigan have just appointed someone, Bradford ain't sacking McCall and Plymouth only just got promoted. See, not many clubs. You said there aren't many clubs in a better position to get promoted as us. The clubs I listed are in an equal or better position. You could include Rotherham if they pick up some form of parachute payment. These clubs will have budgets the same or bigger than us. Why would Rotherham get a parachute payment? You are reaching with your negativity now. We finished 8th last year, he has a very well paid job here and is not in the running for most of the clubs you mentioned. My point was really that Appleton is more likely to get in the championship with us than with any other club, he has one promotion from the 4th division on his CV, their isn't a queue around the block for his services. I doubt a lot of those clubs could match the wages we pay Appleton by the way, certainly coupled with the control and security he has here.
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Post by Barts on May 30, 2017 20:56:00 GMT
You said there aren't many clubs in a better position to get promoted as us. The clubs I listed are in an equal or better position. You could include Rotherham if they pick up some form of parachute payment. These clubs will have budgets the same or bigger than us. Why would Rotherham get a parachute payment? You are reaching with your negativity now. We finished 8th last year, he has a very well paid job here and is not in the running for most of the clubs you mentioned. My point was really that Appleton is more likely to get in the championship with us than with any other club, he has one promotion from the 4th division on his CV, their isn't a queue around the block for his services. I doubt a lot of those clubs could match the wages we pay Appleton by the way, certainly coupled with the control and security he has here. Agree with this. I'd be willing to bet he's the best paid manager in league 1. No-one in the championship would want him, because they are looking for established or foreign managers and the only league 1 side I was concerned about was Wigan, but it looks like they've sorted their manager out. Mapp ain't going anywhere so we just need too concentrate on next season now.
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Post by pompeyyellow on May 30, 2017 21:00:34 GMT
From what my Pompey mates are saying they think they will walk the league next season and the budget for them is £3 million.
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 30, 2017 21:18:16 GMT
They thought that in League 2 didn't they? Took them a few years to get out. League 1 is a lot tougher now than it was when the got relegated out of it.
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Post by Junior on May 30, 2017 21:19:47 GMT
Wolves getting a Portuguese bloke so you can rule Appleton out of that one...
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Post by sussox on May 30, 2017 21:19:55 GMT
You said there aren't many clubs in a better position to get promoted as us. The clubs I listed are in an equal or better position. You could include Rotherham if they pick up some form of parachute payment. These clubs will have budgets the same or bigger than us. Why would Rotherham get a parachute payment? You are reaching with your negativity now. We finished 8th last year, he has a very well paid job here and is not in the running for most of the clubs you mentioned.
My point was really that Appleton is more likely to get in the championship with us than with any other club, he has one promotion from the 4th division on his CV, their isn't a queue around the block for his services. I doubt a lot of those clubs could match the wages we pay Appleton by the way, certainly coupled with the control and security he has here. - I said if they got a parachute payment - I never said he was in the running for those jobs. my point being he could just as easy make a fist of it with those clubs, if he was their manager, which he isn't, as their budgets are equal to or better than ours. - Negativity, well you twist things if you wish. Disappointed yes, as the longer the uncertainties go on, and Eales doesn't come out and say the club isn't for sale, if he is so confident he will be chairman next season, the harder he makes it for Appleton to conclude his business.
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Post by Marked Ox on May 30, 2017 21:28:37 GMT
Would he go back to Portsmouth? New owner, bigger budget. They're losing their manager to Wigan, clearly massive. You know they will have a bigger budget, when did both clubs' announce their budgets?
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Post by saddletramp on May 30, 2017 21:30:29 GMT
Why would Rotherham get a parachute payment? You are reaching with your negativity now. We finished 8th last year, he has a very well paid job here and is not in the running for most of the clubs you mentioned.
My point was really that Appleton is more likely to get in the championship with us than with any other club, he has one promotion from the 4th division on his CV, their isn't a queue around the block for his services. I doubt a lot of those clubs could match the wages we pay Appleton by the way, certainly coupled with the control and security he has here. - I said if they got a parachute payment - I never said he was in the running for those jobs. my point being he could just as easy make a fist of it with those clubs, if he was their manager, which he isn't, as their budgets are equal to or better than ours. - Negativity, well you twist things if you wish. Disappointed yes, as the longer the uncertainties go on, and Eales doesn't come out and say the club isn't for sale, if he is so confident he will be chairman next season, the harder he makes it for Appleton to conclude his business.
"i said if they got a parachute payment ?" Unless i missed Rotherhams season in the PL,why would they ?
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Post by pompeyyellow on May 30, 2017 21:46:32 GMT
Would he go back to Portsmouth? New owner, bigger budget. They're losing their manager to Wigan, clearly massive. You know they will have a bigger budget, when did both clubs' announce their budgets? They haven't . It's what a couple of the lads down here are saying. 1 of them is a share holder at Pompey and that's was what was on the table from Mr Ex Disney as part of the deal for them to sell there shares. I just told them league 1 is a big step from league 2 and if they have a season like we have just had then they would of done well.
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Post by londonroader on May 31, 2017 7:55:19 GMT
You said there aren't many clubs in a better position to get promoted as us. The clubs I listed are in an equal or better position. You could include Rotherham if they pick up some form of parachute payment. These clubs will have budgets the same or bigger than us. Why would Rotherham get a parachute payment? You are reaching with your negativity now. We finished 8th last year, he has a very well paid job here and is not in the running for most of the clubs you mentioned. My point was really that Appleton is more likely to get in the championship with us than with any other club, he has one promotion from the 4th division on his CV, their isn't a queue around the block for his services. I doubt a lot of those clubs could match the wages we pay Appleton by the way, certainly coupled with the control and security he has here. I agree, Mapp could move to another club that's his choice, he might be able to get a championship club but the pressure will be on from the off, there seems a clamour for foreign managers in the championship at the moment, so I would hope Mapp stays here where he's secure at the moment and get us in the championship, then he will have a stable base to ply his trade in that division against all the Johnny come latelies of the championship clubs, he can test himself and hopefully be successful, hopefully if we do get new owners they give Mapp the chance to further the progress of the club.
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Post by Long John Silver on May 31, 2017 8:07:06 GMT
They are after some Portuguese bloke apparently. Most clubs above us want a big name/foreigner/ mix of those two so I can't get to worked up about rumours. Appleton is a manager at a time when it has never been harder for young English managers to get a job and/or progress up the ladder, the ever growing foreign ownership will just see that trend continue. I am pretty certain that the only way Appleton is getting a championship job is by getting promoted up there, not exactly a lot of clubs in a better position than us to do that with. Wigan, Blackburn, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford City, Bristol Rovers, Milton Keynes Dons, Charlton, Fleetwood Town, Scunthorpe United.... You've listed 10 clubs there... so you don't think we will have a top 6 budget as DE has stated?
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Post by foley on May 31, 2017 8:14:08 GMT
From what my Pompey mates are saying they think they will walk the league next season and the budget for them is £3 million. Sadly I too have a number of Pompey mates and they seriously believe they are about to get a top name manager and then walk L1. Bob Bradley is the main name in their frame!
Bet365 are offering 25/1 against Pompey being relegated. Must be worth a punt of a tenner. Contradiction in terms!!
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Post by mac on May 31, 2017 8:54:33 GMT
Sadly I too have a number of Pompey mates and they seriously believe they are about to get a top name manager and then walk L1. Bob Bradley is the main name in their frame!
Bet365 are offering 25/1 against Pompey being relegated. Must be worth a punt of a tenner. Contradiction in terms!! BBC reporting that Kenny Jackett is at the top of their short list
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Post by myles on May 31, 2017 10:06:20 GMT
Wigan, Blackburn, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford City, Bristol Rovers, Milton Keynes Dons, Charlton, Fleetwood Town, Scunthorpe United.... You've listed 10 clubs there... so you don't think we will have a top 6 budget as DE has stated? DE didn't state that.
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Post by bigronaldo on May 31, 2017 10:15:01 GMT
Michael Appleton is staying. Plenty of jobs have come and gone and he was not in the frame for any of them. If we had made the play-offs then it may of been different, but we didn't so he will be here next season. He still has some work to do to get a big move.
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Post by Long John Silver on May 31, 2017 10:20:29 GMT
You've listed 10 clubs there... so you don't think we will have a top 6 budget as DE has stated? DE didn't state that. I thought a top 6 budget was mentioned, but my mistake then.
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