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Post by headingtonutd on May 7, 2017 8:10:33 GMT
jesus yet more waffling bollocks posted by charlie to get attention. as usual you dont actually give your view and you sit on the fence and suck up to the board. mate deal with it you couldnt buy the club and you so desperately want a seat on the board so you post long winded fluffy posts to try and look cleaver. some times I question if you even a fan I mean mate come on you just basically said that eales is making a profit and his plan is to keep doing so by not increasing the money the gaffer gets for player wages and selling our best players. so let me get this right your saying eales has yoinked up prices for all of us and especially for kids just so he can sell players and make a profit? you also sayin that the gaffer aint gonna be able to have a budget to work with to get us up again and he may do won as a result. well if that is the case how f**k are you not aving a pop at your mate eales?? the gaffer is the best thing weve had for years and we cant afford to lose him. so why dont you pull those splinters out of your arse and actually give your opinion for a change? if eales is here to make a profit by putting up ticket prices and selling our best players then I hope the rumour of him selling are true as hes as two face as you. Let me get this straight, Charlie is, at the same time, sitting on the fence, sucking up to the board and having a go at DE? That's pretty impressive. Thank god you were here to point that out for us. He is clearly not a supporter either, it's not like he's ever got involved with the club. I suspect you have been much more hands on? Thanks for the intelligent and well reasoned post. The lack of bitterness is refreshing. Keep up the good work.
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Post by saddletramp on May 7, 2017 8:19:17 GMT
The Eagle By Alfred, Lord Tennyson He clasps the crag with crooked hands; Close to the sun in lonely lands, Ring'd with the azure world, he stands. The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls; He watches from his mountain walls, And like a thunderbolt he falls. Question ? Why do we say "Alfred Lord Tennyson" We don't say Alan Lord Sugar !
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Post by Young Money on May 7, 2017 8:44:49 GMT
The Eagle By Alfred, Lord Tennyson He clasps the crag with crooked hands; Close to the sun in lonely lands, Ring'd with the azure world, he stands. The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls; He watches from his mountain walls, And like a thunderbolt he falls. Question ? Why do we say "Alfred Lord Tennyson" We don't say Alan Lord Sugar ! According to google: The simple answer is... Alfred Tennyson was created a hereditary baron, 1st Baron Tennyson. Barons are known by their title, Lord Tennyson, preceded if necessary by their Christian name. The same applies to current Life Barons, who are not created with hereditary titles. Thus it's John, Lord Prescott of Kingston-upon-Hull. Sons of hereditary peers are given a courtesy title. The sons of barons, that being the lowest order of the peerage, are simply known as The Honourable. Alfred's son was The Hon Hallam Tennyson until Alfred died, after which he became Hallam, 2nd Baron Tennyson, or simply Hallam, Lord Tennyson. The eldest sons of higher ranks of the peerage generally get a courtesy title (the eldest son of a Duke will be granted the use of an Earl's title, and so on). Subsequent sons are known as Lord, using the family surname. The second son of one of the Dukes of Devonshire would be [for example] Lord James Cavendish. It's not correct to call that person "Lord Cavendish". Thus it's possible to distinguish between Lord James Cavendish as coming from a higher rank of the peerage than Alfred Lord Tennyson. For a more complicated answer with all the intricacies of the peerage, you will need to consult a reference like Debrett's.
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Post by Pete Burrett on May 7, 2017 8:57:10 GMT
jesus yet more waffling bollocks posted by charlie to get attention. as usual you dont actually give your view and you sit on the fence and suck up to the board. mate deal with it you couldnt buy the club and you so desperately want a seat on the board so you post long winded fluffy posts to try and look cleaver. some times I question if you even a fan I mean mate come on you just basically said that eales is making a profit and his plan is to keep doing so by not increasing the money the gaffer gets for player wages and selling our best players. so let me get this right your saying eales has yoinked up prices for all of us and especially for kids just so he can sell players and make a profit? you also sayin that the gaffer aint gonna be able to have a budget to work with to get us up again and he may do won as a result. well if that is the case how f**k are you not aving a pop at your mate eales?? the gaffer is the best thing weve had for years and we cant afford to lose him. so why dont you pull those splinters out of your arse and actually give your opinion for a change? if eales is here to make a profit by putting up ticket prices and selling our best players then I hope the rumour of him selling are true as hes as two face as you. Let me get this straight, Charlie is, at the same time, sitting on the fence, sucking up to the board and having a go at DE? That's pretty impressive. Thank god you were here to point that out for us. He is clearly not a supporter either, it's not like he's ever got involved with the club. I suspect you have been much more hands on? Thanks for the intelligent and well reasoned post. The lack of bitterness is refreshing. Keep up the good work. There is a certain (non-delicious) irony in the post you've quoted: obvious bitterness complaining about perceived bitterness. Charlie is definitely a 'marmite character', simultaneously unmissable to some, but a red rag to other bulls. Long may it continue, his presence is a plus for the forum as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by horseman on May 7, 2017 9:43:17 GMT
I thought the reasoning behind ticket price increases was to help "Michael" with the promotion push.
so how are those who seem happy to pay up to 20% extra based on this going to feel if mapp is allowed to walk away?
i would suggest that could easily bring us to where we were when the takeover happened when due to the timing we were left to pick up the crumbs to even have a squad worthy of the name.
Never easy being an Oxford fan is it.
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 7, 2017 9:44:33 GMT
This thread is going to be amusing to read back over once we start getting some new, better players and MApp is still manager.
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Post by foley on May 7, 2017 9:55:12 GMT
This thread is going to be amusing to read back over once we start getting some new, better players and MApp is still manager. To be fair every OUFC supporter would be happy if that happens ...
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 7, 2017 9:56:34 GMT
This thread is going to be amusing to read back over once we start getting some new, better players and MApp is still manager. To be fair every OUFC supporter would be happy if that happens ... Im sure they will but I can see some posters either going very quiet or trying to back track rather quickly. All part of the fun of this forum
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Post by horseman on May 7, 2017 10:05:59 GMT
This thread is going to be amusing to read back over once we start getting some new, better players and MApp is still manager. Our model does come with huge risks from the playing side of things though,letting your better players be sold is one thing but there are no guarantees that you will always find these new gems. however you look at it we were still 17 and 31 pts behind the top 2 and that is a huge amount, i know some seem content with the play offs but again we all know that is just a lottery.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 7, 2017 10:31:13 GMT
To be fair every OUFC supporter would be happy if that happens ... Im sure they will but I can see some posters either going very quiet or trying to back track rather quickly. All part of the fun of this forum Quite, but it could go the other way as well 😉 Think everyone would agree losing mapp would be a major negative
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Post by Young Money on May 7, 2017 13:22:35 GMT
To be fair every OUFC supporter would be happy if that happens ... Im sure they will but I can see some posters either going very quiet or trying to back track rather quickly. All part of the fun of this forum The fun is you're allowed to say 'we WILL lose the manager and then I GUARANTEE we will get relegated', and then celebrate promotion whilst angrily refuting anyone who brings up your old posts 😉🙄
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Post by trainingcone on May 7, 2017 16:59:27 GMT
Both Appleton and Maguire linked to relegated Blackburn Rovers.
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Post by foley on May 7, 2017 18:54:25 GMT
Both Appleton and Maguire linked to relegated Blackburn Rovers. Mowbray has done very well for Blackburn. I would be a little surprised if he doesn't get the job.
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Post by Frodos sock on May 8, 2017 15:37:18 GMT
Current favorite for Wigan job
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Post by leicesteryellow2461 on May 8, 2017 15:52:30 GMT
I think the biggest concern is Middlesbourgh, Agnew unlikely to get the post full time. Boro fans & charman, Steve Gibson, have been on record as to how well Oxford played up there in the fa cup & the style of play. From Appletons point of view Gibson is a chairman who backs his managers with both funds &, equally importantly, time. It would be a step up, with a relative stable club.
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Post by eighteen93 on May 8, 2017 17:46:01 GMT
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Post by londonroadmastermind on May 8, 2017 21:29:54 GMT
MApp had a string of previous setbacks and bruises and instability. Happily Mr Eales has provided a relatively stable stage for him, and a humane, honest, bright and civilised boss. So MApp will stay for one more year to try for promotion with OUFC in 2017-18, and to cement his CV. If this promotion push succeeds, MApp might stay. If this stalls, he will move on. As for Mr Eales, he will be licking his wounds over the stadium. Kassam is a big problem. If Firoz grants some communal facility arrangement, with a relaxed rent, Mr Eales might rejoice and lead the mission. We can then regain the Championship, and perhaps eventually a bona fide Chinese owner. However if Firoz is just stringing everyone along with zero concessions, everything could collapse, and leave us all in tears.
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 9, 2017 7:45:04 GMT
It doesn't sound like he is going anywhere in todays Oxford Mail article. It would appear that the budget has been sorted if he can get on with recruitment.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 9, 2017 7:56:14 GMT
I've heard that mapp's will Definitely be replaced by satnavs.
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Post by bigronaldo on May 9, 2017 8:12:39 GMT
Yep, seems like it is full steam ahead for mapp as regards transfer targets. Retained list is released in the next 24 hours.
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Post by shosho on May 9, 2017 8:16:49 GMT
No drama...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39846008
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Post by Pete Burrett on May 9, 2017 8:29:12 GMT
No drama...http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39846008 Cheers. Encouraging: Oxford United chairman Darryl Eales will significantly increase the club's playing budget next season in a bid to push for the top six in League One.
The U's came within four points of the play-offs in their first season back in the third tier this term.
Head coach Michael Appleton has held talks with Eales about how much money he will have to spend this summer.
"For me, it's about giving Michael the best budget that I can to make us competitive," Eales said.
Oxford finished eighth in the table and reached the EFL Trophy final at Wembley for the second year running.
A busy campaign in league and cup also saw them reach the FA Cup fifth round, knocking out higher league opposition in Rotherham and Newcastle United.
"I think our playing budget this season was the eighth or ninth-highest in League One from the statistics we can get from the EFL," Eales told BBC Radio Oxford.
"I'd like to see if we can get into the top-six budget. We would probably never be able to get into the top three as there's certain clubs who are on a different planet from our perspective.
"We've got to have a degree of flexibility. With the risk of losing a player to another club, there's the opportunity then for Michael to strengthen.
"It's a moveable feast depending on a number of variables, but the overall objective is to go into next season with a stronger squad."
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Post by scotchegg on May 9, 2017 8:55:13 GMT
Glad to see the usual 'experts' on here have got the situation hopelessly wrong again!
I respect others opinions but it does annoy me how people look at the tiniest hint of something out of the ordinary to drive their own agendas.
Myles was talking about the mood music being clear on the back of Lundstram and Maguire showing support for the manager. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks of the 'mood music' currently being played loud and clear?
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Post by Pete Burrett on May 9, 2017 9:06:28 GMT
Glad to see the usual 'experts' on here have got the situation hopelessly wrong again! I respect others opinions but it does annoy me how people look at the tiniest hint of something out of the ordinary to drive their own agendas. Myles was talking about the mood music being clear on the back of Lundstram and Maguire showing support for the manager. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks of the 'mood music' currently being played loud and clear? Well, let's wait and see! Certainly an encouraging statement, and I wouldn't expect Mr Eales to quote actual £££ in terms of budget, but still vague enough to allow conspiracy theories to continue, for now. "For me, it's about giving Michael the best budget that I can to make us competitive," Eales said.
"I'd like to see if we can get into the top-six budget.
"We've got to have a degree of flexibility. With the risk of losing a player to another club, there's the opportunity then for Michael to strengthen.
"It's a moveable feast depending on a number of variables, but the overall objective is to go into next season with a stronger squad."
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Post by Mark on May 9, 2017 9:39:29 GMT
I'd still say that Appleton may be tempted away by a higher level club with better facilities and budgets, Bristol City for instance.
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Post by Maurice Earp on May 9, 2017 9:45:50 GMT
I'd still say that Appleton may be tempted away by a higher level club with better facilities and budgets, Bristol City for instance. I take it that this is being said with loads of sarcasm.
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Post by Mark on May 9, 2017 9:59:03 GMT
I'd still say that Appleton may be tempted away by a higher level club with better facilities and budgets, Bristol City for instance. I take it that this is being said with loads of sarcasm. None at all. Appleton has already hinted at the following:- - the training ground, and the implication being I think that he would prefer the club to have its own training facilities. - his role being as manager, rather than being head coach and having director of football. As he came through the ranks at Manchester United, he has learnt from some of the best, and has seen the benefits of the academy system in developing young players instead of buying them in. I think he is ready for a step up to a club that can compete not only in the top six of L1, but be competitive in the Championship, and for that you need an owner with much bigger pockets.
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Post by myles on May 9, 2017 10:23:30 GMT
Glad to see the usual 'experts' on here have got the situation hopelessly wrong again! I respect others opinions but it does annoy me how people look at the tiniest hint of something out of the ordinary to drive their own agendas. Myles was talking about the mood music being clear on the back of Lundstram and Maguire showing support for the manager. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks of the 'mood music' currently being played loud and clear? No real change to the "mood music" here IMHO. As Pete has already pointed out, the comments from Eales are pretty vague; he talks about liking "to see if we can get into a top-six budget". Hardly a declaration of intent. And then there's this nugget: With the risk of losing a player to another club, there's the opportunity then for Michael to strengthen.That absolutely squares with what I've been thinking: we need to sell before there's any significant further investment.
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Post by gorilla on May 9, 2017 10:45:35 GMT
Based on the oxford mail and bbc sport reports, I think it sounds safe to say MAPP sees his future here with us, at least for another season. Hopefully this also means Maguire commits to a new contract for another season as well.
With budgets agreed, the retained list due to be announced, and MAPP suggesting that he wants to get his transfer activity done as early as possible, who else thinks we might get news of a first summer signing by the end the week?!
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Post by scotchegg on May 9, 2017 10:49:01 GMT
Glad to see the usual 'experts' on here have got the situation hopelessly wrong again! I respect others opinions but it does annoy me how people look at the tiniest hint of something out of the ordinary to drive their own agendas. Myles was talking about the mood music being clear on the back of Lundstram and Maguire showing support for the manager. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks of the 'mood music' currently being played loud and clear? No real change to the "mood music" here IMHO. As Pete has already pointed out, the comments from Eales are pretty vague; he talks about liking "to see if we can get into a top-six budget". Hardly a declaration of intent. And then there's this nugget: With the risk of losing a player to another club, there's the opportunity then for Michael to strengthen.That absolutely squares with what I've been thinking: we need to sell before there's any significant further investment. Hardly proof that MApp will be off which was what your 'mood music' was implying! And how are DE's comments vague, yet Lundstam and Maguire so much more convincing?
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