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Post by mcf86 on May 5, 2017 18:21:24 GMT
The Eagle
By Alfred, Lord Tennyson
He clasps the crag with crooked hands;
Close to the sun in lonely lands,
Ring'd with the azure world, he stands.
The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls;
He watches from his mountain walls,
And like a thunderbolt he falls.
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Post by moomooland on May 5, 2017 18:27:49 GMT
Crystal Palace to ground share with Bristol City?
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Post by Mark on May 5, 2017 18:39:26 GMT
While MAPP has been nothing short of phenomenal for OUFC, he still owes Darryl Eales for reigniting his career and keeping faith in him during his first season as well as putting his hand in his pocket to give him a nice budget. I would suggest there are not many better bosses to work under in football. Hasn't he repaid Darryl by taking his business and making it successful (albeit not profitable)? Good point as to how much more or less valuable the club is with or without Appleton. I suspect some of the lurking potential investors still hope to pick up the club on the cheap but could miss out waiting for a bargain.
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Post by myles on May 5, 2017 18:46:31 GMT
I suspect some of the lurking potential investors still hope to pick up the club on the cheap but could miss out waiting for a bargain. Conversely, the current owner could miss out on maximising his return by holding on too long and effectively "doing a Herd".
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Post by mariokempes on May 5, 2017 19:21:24 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if both Eagles and Appleton left and who could blame them. Because Eagles has been unable to buy the stadium his project to be like Brighton will collapse so,I think he will cut his losses and try with another club who could be in our division or one of the smaller clubs in the Championship He could persuade Mapp to join him and then he could achieve what he wants. Not sure who owns Bristol City but with Ashton already there and them just avoiding the drop,they could both end up there. I really do believe that Kassams reluctance to sell the stadium will really hinder whoever is in charge and in the long term that means we are unable to progress any further than where we are now. Eagles must realise this and so will Mapp. It was good while it lasted 'Eagles' is not even the most stupid part of this comment. Bristol City are owned by Steve Lansdown. He is not only a billionaire (net worth of over £1.5 billion) but also a lifelong fan. Chances of him selling up to Eales? Slim. I wanted to say exactly that but after a hard week my eloquence was failing
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Post by mariokempes on May 5, 2017 19:29:16 GMT
When he joined and Eales was asked if a successful team meant the manager might be at risk of leaving, I think this was handed over to Appleton who said he needed a good three year track record to cover for his three previous clubs. So three years is up now. I wouldn't hold him to a quote as circumstances change, but I think that you could now see Appleton doing a Roofe. He's proved what he can do when given time and resources to get from L2 to L1, but the question is could he do this again at a higher level and would it be with OUFC? After being rollocked by Ferguson for joining the wrong clubs without doing his due diligence, he won't go to the first club offering a pay rise, but would I think want at L1 level a top 3 budget, and above that level decent training ground facilities, and more backroom staff so he could focus more on being head coach. Surprised no-ones mentioned Eastleigh yet. I thought he said 5yrs at that fans forum but my memory ain't what it was and I was nodding off due to Most of the questions on the night seeming to be the new owners asset stripping the club Though none of those suggesting this seemed to know what assets they were going to sell
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Post by themightyaldo on May 5, 2017 19:52:14 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if both Eagles and Appleton left and who could blame them. Because Eagles has been unable to buy the stadium his project to be like Brighton will collapse so,I think he will cut his losses and try with another club who could be in our division or one of the smaller clubs in the Championship He could persuade Mapp to join him and then he could achieve what he wants. Not sure who owns Bristol City but with Ashton already there and them just avoiding the drop,they could both end up there. I really do believe that Kassams reluctance to sell the stadium will really hinder whoever is in charge and in the long term that means we are unable to progress any further than where we are now. Eagles must realise this and so will Mapp. It was good while it lasted 'Eagles' is not even the most stupid part of this comment. Bristol City are owned by Steve Lansdown. He is not only a billionaire (net worth of over £1.5 billion) but also a lifelong fan. Chances of him selling up to Eales? Slim. If you could read properly I said I didn't know who owned Bristol City. Appleton still might end up there
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Post by charliesghost on May 6, 2017 7:14:38 GMT
I think that MAPP has made clear in all of the articles. He needs an extra 3 players and budget to compete at the top of League 1. If he were not to get enough then I would think that his stock is high enough to get a club such as Norwich (or any well run Championship club who wants to develop players/ grow and improve) or a League 1 club with the funds to compete and who can go up. From MAPP's perspective he will want to get Promotion if staying in League 1 and then his stock will be very high ( with regard to Saddletramp's comments, many Premiership fans would still not know who MAPP was even with Promotion to the Championship) I touched on this gently in the thread I started last night. If MApp feels he will be given the budget to mount a proper promotion challenge next season, then I think he will stay. As will key players like Maguire and Lundstrum. And this is where Darryl has to step up to the plate and ensure such funding is available. Considering how we have performed on and off the pitch over the past couple of seasons, I don't see why this shouldn't happen. However, reading the "mood music" coming out of the club, the comments from MApp and various players, and the press comments made by Darryl, one has to wonder if it is going to happen. On April 13, Eales is quoted in the OxMail as saying:Then on April 19: We can also throw in the comments from January along the lines of: a. The club is unsustainable in current form; b. Darryl can fund it in League 1 all day long, but would struggle higher up; c. The club desperately needs a stadium deal (which we all agree would be an extra £300k max of revenue) So the summary is that: Owing to the player recruitment model we have working well, like Peterborough we can be ‘sustainable’ as a mid-table League 1 club. Sell a player every summer, re-invest some in buying another couple of players, put the rest into a playing budget of £2.8 million that would otherwise see the club lose £1 million and then if you have a Cup run or two you are profitable, like this season. If you don’t you lose a couple of hundred grand and hope for better luck next season. This is all absolutely fine, and after the carnage of the last 20 years, rather admirable. But Darryl cannot quite bring himself to admit that this is the reality. To pump season ticket prices up by 20% a year, he needs to imply – if not state – that they are going to a promotion budget. And likewise to keep MApp on board. The problem is that he has run out of road with this strategy now. You cannot expect to get promoted, and claim that you are ambitious, if you are trying to turn a profit AND plan to sell your best player every summer. And at some point, your manager is going to get deeply p*ssed off that it is being implied to everyone that he is going to have a promotion budget, when in fact he knows that it is a top 8 budget at best. I strongly suspect this is where we are at now - Darryl is making public noises about ambition and budgets, but MApp seems to be making public comments hinting that such a budget isn't immediately forthcoming. So even with a profitable season behind us, a manager who has built a squad which is within touching distance of mounting a decent promotion push, and a buoyant fanbase, it seems that Darryl still can't commit to the funding necessary for that push. So Darryl is caught in a bind entirely of his own making. He either promises MApp money he potentially doesn’t have. Or he cuts his cloth to try to break even or make a profit again, and risks losing his manager and losing face with the supporters who he has bigged himself up to so much. Of course, Marvin Johnson could be his Get out of Jail card. If he can sell him for silly money - £2.5 million, say - then he COULD pump up the budget by 500k, give Appleton 500k to spend on new transfers and keep £1 million to ensure that he more or less breaks even whatever happens. I think a lot of this is fair/true. Both DE and MAPP are dealing with the happy results of success. In the manager's case, he has to be careful with his career profile. He does not see himself as a lower league 'gaffer'. Honestly, I think that if he knew that that was his future I think he'd prefer to go back into top-level coaching or run an academy in the premier league. But he wants a shot at making it as a premier league manager, a la Eddie howe, Sean dyche etc. He knows that to do that he needs to prove himself in the championship. And he knew that to do that he would have to re-prove himself to the football world. This he has done. So his next step quite clearly is to get himself back into the championship pdq. He is 'fashionable' right now, but a couple of seasons of 'consokidation' with OUFC would see his profile start to change zgain to more of a Barry fry style cv. So it is patently obvious to anyone with a brain that he is trying to work out if he is going to get a proper shot at promotion here. That is going to need an extra 500k on the budget, something that he will doubtless feel is deserved given that he has turned a profit for his chairman this season. From the Boards perspective, though, having got the club to profit, do they want to go back to investing in it when the 'prize', the championship, is something they have already said they can't afford. So while MAPP desperately wants the championship, the Board are, to use your example, thinking more Peterborough United. One can entirely understand both sets of motivation and understand the resultant slight discords in public statements as a result. If MAPP then decides that the Barry fry path is not for him then we can hardly blame him, given his age and ambition. And nor could we really blame the Board for taking a rational decision that a sustainable mid-table League 1 club who every year 'target' the bottom play-off place but don't expect to get it is a reasonable level of aspiration. I guess that some time very soon these two different levels of aspiration will meet, in the form of a final budget meeting and see if they can find a happy meeting place. And if they can't then I'm sure there will be plenty of competent lower league gaffer's queuing up to do the job, quite content with a top 10 budget.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 6, 2017 7:31:22 GMT
Not mickey Adams 😉
I think there is one slight risk if the board go for that option. And that is the business model that they are sticking with is heavily reliant on bringing in young players, improving them and selling on at a profit. Mapp has been instrumental in both parts of that, convincing them to come here in the first place, and making them better players while here. Lose him and u risk losing that sustainable base anyway.
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Post by Young Money on May 6, 2017 7:35:48 GMT
When he joined and Eales was asked if a successful team meant the manager might be at risk of leaving, I think this was handed over to Appleton who said he needed a good three year track record to cover for his three previous clubs. So three years is up now. I wouldn't hold him to a quote as circumstances change, but I think that you could now see Appleton doing a Roofe. He's proved what he can do when given time and resources to get from L2 to L1, but the question is could he do this again at a higher level and would it be with OUFC? After being rollocked by Ferguson for joining the wrong clubs without doing his due diligence, he won't go to the first club offering a pay rise, but would I think want at L1 level a top 3 budget, and above that level decent training ground facilities, and more backroom staff so he could focus more on being head coach. Surprised no-ones mentioned Eastleigh yet. Mentioned Eastleigh in what way?
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Post by robie on May 6, 2017 7:39:48 GMT
Lundstram doesn't suggest Mapp is off;
Take all the crap from the Oxford Mail in the story and you get; United’s skipper admits he would expect there to be interest from elsewhere.
“I would not be surprised at all,” he said.
“That’s what comes with doing well and it’s no secret just how good he is.”
“The manager is the most important thing at this football club, without a shadow of a doubt.
“Without him we wouldn’t be where we are now.”
“We won promotion last season and then in this one we got to the fifth round of the FA Cup, a Wembley final and that wouldn’t have been possible without him,” he said.
“His man-management has driven us forward and massive credit to him, he’s brought us a long way in the time he’s been here.”
“The gaffer left me out that day but spoke to me and said how much he backed me,” he said.
“He is a great man-manager and he knows exactly what you need as a player and a person.
“For him to take me aside and say to me what he did was just what I needed.
“It was a massive moment for me because since then I felt back to my old self.”
He doesn't once state as the Oxford Mail headline put it that he fears Mapp will be a wanted man and OUFC MUST hold onto their manager. He answers a question saying he wouldn't be surprised if there is interest.
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Post by uptheus on May 6, 2017 7:42:25 GMT
Let's just hope that all gets resolved at Oxford e.g. stadium, training ground, player budgets etc then I think there's a better chance that MApp will stay, and the players. The next few weeks should be telling.
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 6, 2017 7:45:08 GMT
I touched on this gently in the thread I started last night. If MApp feels he will be given the budget to mount a proper promotion challenge next season, then I think he will stay. As will key players like Maguire and Lundstrum. And this is where Darryl has to step up to the plate and ensure such funding is available. Considering how we have performed on and off the pitch over the past couple of seasons, I don't see why this shouldn't happen. However, reading the "mood music" coming out of the club, the comments from MApp and various players, and the press comments made by Darryl, one has to wonder if it is going to happen. On April 13, Eales is quoted in the OxMail as saying:Then on April 19: We can also throw in the comments from January along the lines of: a. The club is unsustainable in current form; b. Darryl can fund it in League 1 all day long, but would struggle higher up; c. The club desperately needs a stadium deal (which we all agree would be an extra £300k max of revenue) So the summary is that: Owing to the player recruitment model we have working well, like Peterborough we can be ‘sustainable’ as a mid-table League 1 club. Sell a player every summer, re-invest some in buying another couple of players, put the rest into a playing budget of £2.8 million that would otherwise see the club lose £1 million and then if you have a Cup run or two you are profitable, like this season. If you don’t you lose a couple of hundred grand and hope for better luck next season. This is all absolutely fine, and after the carnage of the last 20 years, rather admirable. But Darryl cannot quite bring himself to admit that this is the reality. To pump season ticket prices up by 20% a year, he needs to imply – if not state – that they are going to a promotion budget. And likewise to keep MApp on board. The problem is that he has run out of road with this strategy now. You cannot expect to get promoted, and claim that you are ambitious, if you are trying to turn a profit AND plan to sell your best player every summer. And at some point, your manager is going to get deeply p*ssed off that it is being implied to everyone that he is going to have a promotion budget, when in fact he knows that it is a top 8 budget at best. I strongly suspect this is where we are at now - Darryl is making public noises about ambition and budgets, but MApp seems to be making public comments hinting that such a budget isn't immediately forthcoming. So even with a profitable season behind us, a manager who has built a squad which is within touching distance of mounting a decent promotion push, and a buoyant fanbase, it seems that Darryl still can't commit to the funding necessary for that push. So Darryl is caught in a bind entirely of his own making. He either promises MApp money he potentially doesn’t have. Or he cuts his cloth to try to break even or make a profit again, and risks losing his manager and losing face with the supporters who he has bigged himself up to so much. Of course, Marvin Johnson could be his Get out of Jail card. If he can sell him for silly money - £2.5 million, say - then he COULD pump up the budget by 500k, give Appleton 500k to spend on new transfers and keep £1 million to ensure that he more or less breaks even whatever happens. I think a lot of this is fair/true. Both DE and MAPP are dealing with the happy results of success. In the manager's case, he has to be careful with his career profile. He does not see himself as a lower league 'gaffer'. Honestly, I think that if he knew that that was his future I think he'd prefer to go back into top-level coaching or run an academy in the premier league. But he wants a shot at making it as a premier league manager, a la Eddie howe, Sean dyche etc. He knows that to do that he needs to prove himself in the championship. And he knew that to do that he would have to re-prove himself to the football world. This he has done. So his next step quite clearly is to get himself back into the championship pdq. He is 'fashionable' right now, but a couple of seasons of 'consokidation' with OUFC would see his profile start to change zgain to more of a Barry fry style cv. So it is patently obvious to anyone with a brain that he is trying to work out if he is going to get a proper shot at promotion here. That is going to need an extra 500k on the budget, something that he will doubtless feel is deserved given that he has turned a profit for his chairman this season. From the Boards perspective, though, having got the club to profit, do they want to go back to investing in it when the 'prize', the championship, is something they have already said they can't afford. So while MAPP desperately wants the championship, the Board are, to use your example, thinking more Peterborough United. One can entirely understand both sets of motivation and understand the resultant slight discords in public statements as a result. If MAPP then decides that the Barry fry path is not for him then we can hardly blame him, given his age and ambition. And nor could we really blame the Board for taking a rational decision that a sustainable mid-table League 1 club who every year 'target' the bottom play-off place but don't expect to get it is a reasonable level of aspiration. I guess that some time very soon these two different levels of aspiration will meet, in the form of a final budget meeting and see if they can find a happy meeting place. And if they can't then I'm sure there will be plenty of competent lower league gaffer's queuing up to do the job, quite content with a top 10 budget. A la Eddie Howe..... he has had millions to spend on a team that overspend season in season out Max Denim pulls out will the yanks want to take on the millions of debt that would be owed to Denim? I doubt it but then he could walk away but then who would want a club punching very much above their weight? I am sure if MAPP was given there sort of budget on a team of similar stature could do just as well if not better in fact any manager given their sort of budget could, now Sean Dyche now that's a different kettle of fish
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Post by stevewilliams on May 6, 2017 7:47:02 GMT
jesus yet more waffling bollocks posted by charlie to get attention. as usual you dont actually give your view and you sit on the fence and suck up to the board. mate deal with it you couldnt buy the club and you so desperately want a seat on the board so you post long winded fluffy posts to try and look cleaver. some times I question if you even a fan I mean mate come on you just basically said that eales is making a profit and his plan is to keep doing so by not increasing the money the gaffer gets for player wages and selling our best players. so let me get this right your saying eales has yoinked up prices for all of us and especially for kids just so he can sell players and make a profit? you also sayin that the gaffer aint gonna be able to have a budget to work with to get us up again and he may do won as a result. well if that is the case how f**k are you not aving a pop at your mate eales?? the gaffer is the best thing weve had for years and we cant afford to lose him. so why dont you pull those splinters out of your arse and actually give your opinion for a change? if eales is here to make a profit by putting up ticket prices and selling our best players then I hope the rumour of him selling are true as hes as two face as you.
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 6, 2017 7:47:32 GMT
Let's just hope that all gets resolved at Oxford e.g. stadium, training ground, player budgets etc then I think there's a better chance that MApp will stay, and the players. The next few weeks should be telling. The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time
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Post by Pete Burrett on May 6, 2017 7:58:38 GMT
Let's just hope that all gets resolved at Oxford e.g. stadium, training ground, player budgets etc then I think there's a better chance that MApp will stay, and the players. The next few weeks should be telling. The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Does now rather sound as if Kassam is dragging his heels over community ownership. Why would that be? Could there be a serious potential buyer close to making a bid for OUFC, possibly Sartori? Does Kassam believe that any new club owner would also give him the money he wants for the stadium? Kassam will sell if the price is right, and can still deal with OCC over the developments he wants around the ground. I don't agree that Kassam is taking the p*ss out of OxVox though. OxVox, for all most of us know, may be fully aware of possible club / stadium ownership issues but simply cannot comment at this stage.
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Post by uptheus on May 6, 2017 7:59:33 GMT
Let's just hope that all gets resolved at Oxford e.g. stadium, training ground, player budgets etc then I think there's a better chance that MApp will stay, and the players. The next few weeks should be telling. The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Not sure if it's wishful thinking, but I've got a feeling that these issues will be sorted sooner rather than later, but then again we are talking about move the goal posts so I make more money as I really care about Oxford United Football Club Kassam!
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Post by oufcyellows on May 6, 2017 8:05:24 GMT
Let's just hope that all gets resolved at Oxford e.g. stadium, training ground, player budgets etc then I think there's a better chance that MApp will stay, and the players. The next few weeks should be telling. The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Seeing the training ground situation is massively easier to sort than the stadium. And seeing mapp has also said that training facilities are more important as the players use them everyday, shouldn't there be more of a question as to why it's taking so long to sort? If we are moving to oxford city that could have been sorted in a matter of days, especially as we are helping with their financing in recent times
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Post by uptheus on May 6, 2017 8:14:53 GMT
The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Does now rather sound as if Kassam is dragging his heels over community ownership. Why would that be? Could there be a serious potential buyer close to making a bid for OUFC, possibly Sartori? Does Kassam believe that any new club owner would also give him the money he wants for the stadium? Kassam will sell if the price is right, and can still deal with OCC over the developments he wants around the ground. I don't agree that Kassam is taking the p*ss out of OxVox though. OxVox, for all most of us know, may be fully aware of possible club / stadium ownership issues but simply cannot comment at this stage. Not sure it's taking the p*ss out of OxVox, but there were comments made from within those circles that Kassam had changed and wanted to be seen differently by the fans due to his previous errors e.g. make good his previous wrong doings, whereas, I never trust this man as his only really love is money. If he really cares about the club and wants to try and rebuild bridges etc, then sell the stadium at a reasonable price, remove his name, apologise and stop taking the p*ss and trying to cream more out of the club. I totally despise this guy so he'd have to go a long way to make me think differently about him, but by doing the above he'd be moving in the right direction. Oh sorry I forgot, he's a heartless businessman who couldn't give a toss. I wonder what his children think of him, especially his son who had his party at the ground recently or his daughters who'd like to be able to say who their Dad is when they're in and around Oxford and be proud to say who he is. Even some ruthless powerful businessman see the errors of their way and know that money isn't everything in the end, but then there's Kassam.
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Post by oufcbenjyp on May 6, 2017 8:15:15 GMT
jesus yet more waffling bollocks posted by charlie to get attention. as usual you dont actually give your view and you sit on the fence and suck up to the board. mate deal with it you couldnt buy the club and you so desperately want a seat on the board so you post long winded fluffy posts to try and look cleaver. some times I question if you even a fan I mean mate come on you just basically said that eales is making a profit and his plan is to keep doing so by not increasing the money the gaffer gets for player wages and selling our best players. so let me get this right your saying eales has yoinked up prices for all of us and especially for kids just so he can sell players and make a profit? you also sayin that the gaffer aint gonna be able to have a budget to work with to get us up again and he may do won as a result. well if that is the case how f**k are you not aving a pop at your mate eales?? the gaffer is the best thing weve had for years and we cant afford to lose him. so why dont you pull those splinters out of your arse and actually give your opinion for a change? if eales is here to make a profit by putting up ticket prices and selling our best players then I hope the rumour of him selling are true as hes as two face as you. I wouldn't call Charlie's post 'waffling bollocks', just a bit long and maybe a bit too long for you. He describes a dilemma now faced by the club with two potential avenues. It's 'stick or twist' time. If he 'sticks' and doesn't make additional funding available then MAPP may go. If he 'twists' he potentially moves into loss making territory which may be unsustainable for the club and him and which may result in promotion which he has already said he can't really afford without further investment. It's easy for all of us to say 'twist' because it's not our money. The 'twist' option could also leave the club back to where it was before MAPP and DE took over... In terms of your comment about Charlie lacking opinions, the only opinion I see you giving is that MAPP is a great manager. I agree but what is your view about what Eales should do? If it was your money what would you do?
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Post by Mark on May 6, 2017 8:18:54 GMT
I think Charlie's got it right about Appleton's career objectives. He doesn't want to be a lower league gaffer for too many more years, nor does he want another big name failure.
Eastleigh I imagine would love to get him in as manager but I doubt he'd want to go to conference as he's done his three year penance with us.
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Post by uptheus on May 6, 2017 8:22:11 GMT
The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Seeing the training ground situation is massively easier to sort than the stadium. And seeing mapp has also said that training facilities are more important as the players use them everyday, shouldn't there be more of a question as to why it's taking so long to sort? If we are moving to oxford city that could have been sorted in a matter of days, especially as we are helping with their financing in recent times It appears fairly obvious that there's been or still continuing discussions about the ownership of the club, so I guess until these issues are resolved then I suppose it's difficult to finalise this issue right now, but I'd expect further comment no later than end of May, if not before so that MApp, players etc can plan accordingly etc. We know we're good until the end of the year at present, but would be good to get this sorted sooner rather than later.
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Post by oufcyellows on May 6, 2017 8:28:29 GMT
I agree the delays in announcing this, and budgets and things does suggest that either de and the board are waiting to see, or waiting for it to be someone else's decision. I don't see the stadium situation affects agreeing a deal for the training ground, so it's got to be more complicated than just agreeing a deal. Wasn't there also a deadline set by the council as to when the club had to inform them if they wanted space at the new facility of not ?
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 6, 2017 8:51:20 GMT
The stadium that's just dragging on as is the training ground issue which could be pivotal MAPP staying as you said, but those 2 issues I doubt whether they will be sorted for quite some time Seeing the training ground situation is massively easier to sort than the stadium. And seeing mapp has also said that training facilities are more important as the players use them everyday, shouldn't there be more of a question as to why it's taking so long to sort? If we are moving to oxford city that could have been sorted in a matter of days, especially as we are helping with their financing in recent times Sorted in a matter if days, yes it could, as could the heads of teams And a potential new owner(s) before the start of next season
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Post by uptheus on May 6, 2017 8:56:43 GMT
Seeing the training ground situation is massively easier to sort than the stadium. And seeing mapp has also said that training facilities are more important as the players use them everyday, shouldn't there be more of a question as to why it's taking so long to sort? If we are moving to oxford city that could have been sorted in a matter of days, especially as we are helping with their financing in recent times Sorted in a matter if days, yes it could, as could the heads of teams And a potential new owner(s) before the start of next season May be the new potential owner would want to purchase the stadium instead?
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Post by myles on May 6, 2017 9:11:49 GMT
Lundstram doesn't suggest Mapp is off; Take all the crap from the Oxford Mail in the story and you get; United’s skipper admits he would expect there to be interest He doesn't once state as the Oxford Mail headline put it that he fears Mapp will be a wanted man and OUFC MUST hold onto their manager. He answers a question saying he wouldn't be surprised if there is interest. What you are doing here is taking that one article in isolation and explaining it away. We could do that with each individual article, press release etc etc. But what people need to do is look at the wider picture. The key points in Lundstram's quotes are about MApp being the most important thing at the club and how we must hold on to him. The obvious question this raises is why would MApp want to leave? So we look at the other recent stories and the matter of the budget rears its head. Maguire's comments are similar; he doesn't say that MApp is off, just that he's a key reason for Maguire to re-sign for next season. Again, if there was no doubt about MApp's intentions, why would this even need to be said? The mood music is very clear here.
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Post by bazzer9461 on May 6, 2017 9:48:24 GMT
Sorted in a matter if days, yes it could, as could the heads of teams And a potential new owner(s) before the start of next season May be the new potential owner would want to purchase the stadium instead? Obviously it is the stadium purchase, I would hope DE would stay on as chairman
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Post by Denissmithswig on May 6, 2017 14:28:15 GMT
I am pretty sure MApp will know his budget by now. Don't expect it to be announced though into the press.
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Post by worleox42 on May 6, 2017 21:35:09 GMT
MAPP needs to finish the job and make us champions league winners, everything else is a failure...
Chill out guys, we cannot change anything, if MAPP, I will be gutted, but he will go with his head held high. He has done wonders at our club and I for one are externally grateful...
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Post by scotchegg on May 6, 2017 21:54:58 GMT
Lundstram doesn't suggest Mapp is off; Take all the crap from the Oxford Mail in the story and you get; United’s skipper admits he would expect there to be interest He doesn't once state as the Oxford Mail headline put it that he fears Mapp will be a wanted man and OUFC MUST hold onto their manager. He answers a question saying he wouldn't be surprised if there is interest. What you are doing here is taking that one article in isolation and explaining it away. We could do that with each individual article, press release etc etc. But what people need to do is look at the wider picture. The key points in Lundstram's quotes are about MApp being the most important thing at the club and how we must hold on to him. The obvious question this raises is why would MApp want to leave? So we look at the other recent stories and the matter of the budget rears its head. Maguire's comments are similar; he doesn't say that MApp is off, just that he's a key reason for Maguire to re-sign for next season. Again, if there was no doubt about MApp's intentions, why would this even need to be said? The mood music is very clear here. The mood music is being orchestrated by the Oxford Mail and some on here. Lundstram talks positively about MApp, and acknowledges, as we all do, that other teams will be interested. Nothing surprising in this. Maguire says that discussions are on going, but that his relationship with MApp is key to any future plans. Again, nothing particularly shocking here. Previously MApp states that he is looking at adding quality players to his squad as he aims for promotion next season. No different from 90 other managers I'd guess, and even José will fallout with the chairman over playing budgets! The mood music you talk of is being played more often than Ed Sheeran!!
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