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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 4, 2017 19:20:04 GMT
What I don't get is, everyone knows the pitch is in a bad way. Mapp said good sides are going to find it difficult but so do we and we need to learn to cope as we have a lot of games to play on it. So with all that why the bloody hell do we spend 10 mins watering it, you could see it was just puddling and getting worse. Yes I understand that wetting a good pitch make the ball flow faster for our style. Wetting mud does not have the same effect !
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Post by uptheus on Mar 4, 2017 19:30:18 GMT
What I don't get is, everyone knows the pitch is in a bad way. Mapp said good sides are going to find it difficult but so do we and we need to learn to cope as we have a lot of games to play on it. So with all that why the bloody hell do we spend 10 mins watering it, you could see it was just puddling and getting worse. Yes I understand that wetting a good pitch make the ball flow faster for our style. Wetting mud does not have the same effect ! I agree that is odd, especially with the amount of rain we've had lately!
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Post by johnf on Mar 4, 2017 19:40:47 GMT
Very poor today another defeat against a no nonsense,niggly workman like in you face side. We don't seem to be able to win against these sort of teams still you wouldn't bet against us beating Sheffield on Tuesday. Let's hope we can put this behind us quickly and get back to winning ways on Tuesday. By the way he wasn't the reason we lost but the ref and his assistants were shocking today.
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Post by Common Villager on Mar 4, 2017 19:48:57 GMT
Couldn't believe how many fans left before the final whistle today. The players didn't deserve that. Yes they did..
I thought Appleton could have tried something second half to be honest...
Perhaps give Ribs a run out on the right wing back position where his pace may have been a threat and push Edwards across.
I thought Dunkley was poor and after his booking was ineffective.
I didn't think the Officials were that bad to be honest
We looked very jaded and it was a clear case of after the Lord Mayors show.
I also think Rovers were one of the better teams we will play this season.
What so one off game and it's okay to empty the stadium with ten minutes to go? It's hard to second guess Appleton's team selection. More often than not he gets it right. Besides, his hand was pretty much forced today. The squad has been tested over the past few weeks, and will be tested further thru March and April. We're not going to win every game. Especially when we come up against physical teams like Rovers. The least we fans can do is stay till the end and show the team our support. Didn't think much of Rovers to be honest. They did the simple things and played the percentages really well, but we've faced far better teams. As Appleton said, if you remove the two silly mistakes for both goals, that's a 0-0 match. Let's hope the players can get their energy back before Tuesday. I would have taken 3 points from the two matches had I been offered it before kick off today. COYY
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Post by bigfella72 on Mar 4, 2017 20:09:16 GMT
Neither are still here because neither is anywhere near good enough. As the guy is on the phone in said, we simply don't have enough of squad players that could slot into the team, when we have injuries. Players such as Ruffles. The minute we end up with a couple of injuries, we cant fill a bench.
You cannot include youth as part of squad numbers, and then tell everyone we have a squad of 21 players, as we did last summer.
Simply put this is the reason we wont be able to sustain a promotion push, our squad is 3 players short of being a proper sized squad.
The 'guy on the phone' called Paul certainly likes the sound of his own voice, comes on after every match and bores us all with his repetitive, negative, knee jerk waffle. A few weeks ago he was demanding we moved to Wycombe, then claiming that Mr Appleton was arrogant. Where do Radio Oxford get them from, must be desperate.🤡 One in the same?
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Post by harrycarry on Mar 4, 2017 20:19:44 GMT
I heard some transexual Pirates tried it at The Blackbird today, anyone know what went off?
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Post by aaronoxf on Mar 4, 2017 20:20:57 GMT
What on earth is up with the pitch. It's an utter disgrace
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Post by yellowoptimist on Mar 4, 2017 20:26:40 GMT
What on earth is up with the pitch. It's an utter disgrace Is the pitch really that bad? It seems nowhere near as bad as it was a couple of seasons ago. Wasn't a problem at Luton and that pitch was a disgrace.
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Post by aaronoxf on Mar 4, 2017 20:28:04 GMT
What on earth is up with the pitch. It's an utter disgrace Is the pitch really that bad? It seems nowhere near as bad as it was a couple of seasons ago. Wasn't a problem at Luton and that pitch was a disgrace. The pitch looks worse than seasons gone by L
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Post by Yellow River on Mar 4, 2017 20:35:58 GMT
The 'guy on the phone' called Paul certainly likes the sound of his own voice, comes on after every match and bores us all with his repetitive, negative, knee jerk waffle. A few weeks ago he was demanding we moved to Wycombe, then claiming that Mr Appleton was arrogant. Where do Radio Oxford get them from, must be desperate.🤡 One in the same? Shirley not?😉 Nobody would be that creepy.🤡
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Post by rickster on Mar 4, 2017 21:11:44 GMT
The Gas better side today,we couldn't string 2 passes together,thought the Ref was absolutely dire Martinez was fouled so many times and the decision mostly went against him.I.left 10 minutes before the end 80 mile trip home very quiet in the car.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Mar 4, 2017 21:42:24 GMT
The ref was terrible, and his lino on the South Stand side was just as bad.
Can't blame them for the defeat though. Brizzle were first to the ball most of the time, and our 'tactic' of lumping it up to Martinez (who was being marked by two and sometimes three players) was ridiculous. Try it out by all means, but then stop doing it when it quite obviously isn't working. We didn't use width enough, the passing was very poor and personally I though Raglan looked like a fish out of water (although there are excuses for that, and his heading wasn't bad).
According to the stats we had 9 shots, 4 on target. Compare that to the game against Luton (23 and 12) and Chesterfield (21 and 10) and you can see how well Brizzle did to restrict us, or how out of sorts we were ourselves. The Luton match was on a worse pitch, so let's not put it all down to that - especially as we've got a load more game to play on it.
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Post by robie on Mar 4, 2017 22:10:33 GMT
At least we didn't lose to Chesterfield.
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Post by oxfordboy on Mar 4, 2017 22:28:48 GMT
Felt like watching one of the poorer Wilder lead teams today, Sercombe, Skarz and Edwards as 3 of your 4 wide players would have made Wilder blush, how many target men types has Appleton tried now? Have a single one of them been above decent?
I'm a big fan of Appleton and he's doing a very good job, but some of his lineups recently have been dreaful
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Post by yellowmania on Mar 5, 2017 0:11:17 GMT
Felt like watching one of the poorer Wilder lead teams today, Sercombe, Skarz and Edwards as 3 of your 4 wide players would have made Wilder blush, how many target men types has Appleton tried now? Have a single one of them been above decent? I'm a big fan of Appleton and he's doing a very good job, but some of his lineups recently have been dreaful Dreadful lineups really? Not according to the form table recently. Which other ones in the past 6 games have been dreadful then?
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Post by charliesghost on Mar 5, 2017 0:43:34 GMT
Felt like watching one of the poorer Wilder lead teams today, Sercombe, Skarz and Edwards as 3 of your 4 wide players would have made Wilder blush, how many target men types has Appleton tried now? Have a single one of them been above decent? I'm a big fan of Appleton and he's doing a very good job, but some of his lineups recently have been dreaful[/ Is this a wind-up. He's managed a small squad expertly for weeks, maybe even months. Eventually we have been caught out by the sheer weight of games. And, of course, our inability to 'find a way' against sides who want to get in our faces and stop us playing. That is zero points from five games against Gas, Cobblers and Wimbledon. That is a not a coincidence. It is a clear trend. I would not expect CJW to make it easy for us on Tuesday. His team has the physicality to do likewise, with a bit more class. Our squad is not perfect for this kind of thing, but I would advocate Ruffels having a go. I didn't feel that our full-backs did us many favours today. They exposed the centre backs continuously whilst also offering nothing going forward. Not a good combination!
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Post by oldman159 on Mar 5, 2017 9:05:19 GMT
Brizzle had done their homework. They had us Sussed from the kick off. Simple tactics of giving us no space whatsoever and putting 2 sometimes 3 players on our midfield and forwards when they were in possession. Our passing when we did any was lethargic at times whereas the gas were quick, enthusiastic and direct in everything they did. We are not good at head tennis either whereas their end product was more accurate . I doubt that our performance yesterday will be lost on nice Mr Wilder
All in all , they outplayed and outfought us and, it hurts to say, they thoroughly deserved the win
Other issues....It seemed to me that as is often the case at the Kashstad, in the first 10 minutes the opposing team tests the ref to see what he is going to allow. Yesterday it quickly became apparent that Brizzle were going to be allowed to get away with everything...and the yellows? ....nothing. There were several occasions when obvious fouls on our players were actually given the other way...and as for the 'hand ball' incident, I guess we were lucky that the ineffectual Lino was actually awake at that point in the game. 😱
Oh well, back to a nice easy one on Tuesday evening. COYYs! 😊
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Post by fourthstand on Mar 5, 2017 9:19:11 GMT
Not sure what team people expected MAPP to put out, but imo his hands were tied by injuries and size/experience of squad. Other top teams have managed to negative Rovers awful style of football (and i'd add wombles, Sarfend etc). We haven't yet found a way of doing so.
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Post by lukehudson on Mar 5, 2017 9:25:43 GMT
League is the priority but we ended up with a weaker team yesterday compared to Wends, was it worth losing Nelson,Maguire,Hemmings considering they are also 50/50 if they are going to be fit for Tues.
Also Skarz isn't good enough as well as Sercombe in the wide positions.
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Post by ontheup01 on Mar 5, 2017 9:55:35 GMT
League is the priority but we ended up with a weaker team yesterday compared to Wends, was it worth losing Nelson,Maguire,Hemmings considering they are also 50/50 if they are going to be fit for Tues. Also Skarz isn't good enough as well as Sercombe in the wide positions. The majority of our team were simply bullied yesterday by a more determined team who came with an obvious game plan which worked. They just got the ball foward as quickly as possible, trying to get behind our flat footed back four. Dunks was the only one who won his battle, albeit he was awful on the ball. Johnson, one of best players, had a poorish game, but is the only player out wide that tries to get to the byline and cross the ball. Skatz and Edwards offer no width or pace to help breakdown teams. This made it much easier contain us. Let's face it they won at a canter. Hopefully on Tuesday, we put in a much bigger shift.
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Post by sideoftheleft on Mar 5, 2017 10:07:53 GMT
As already been said. We couldn't string 2 passes together yesterday. We played worse than when we played them away.
Back 4 was missing the organisation of nelson, skarz was at fault for one of the goals. No wide play due to hall and maguire being out.
Conor had a half decent game upfront, and I thought ledson also played well getting in some decent tackles.
We struggle against these scrappy direct teams, it's not our kind of football. Hopefully hall and nelson are back ready for Tuesday night
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Post by sideoftheleft on Mar 5, 2017 10:09:12 GMT
Also to add the team didn't seem up for it, but neither did the fans. Bristol were out singing all the oxford fans and the fact fans were leaving after 75mins is embarrassing and de motivating for the players.
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Post by concretebob on Mar 5, 2017 10:26:59 GMT
I thought at times yesterday Dunks looked pretty nailed on for a red card. Very close to losing it
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 5, 2017 11:00:36 GMT
I thought at times yesterday Dunks looked pretty nailed on for a red card. Very close to losing it Another thing I thought the ref got wrong, dunks should have gone for a second yellow.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 5, 2017 11:00:47 GMT
League is the priority but we ended up with a weaker team yesterday compared to Wends, was it worth losing Nelson,Maguire,Hemmings considering they are also 50/50 if they are going to be fit for Tues. Also Skarz isn't good enough as well as Sercombe in the wide positions. The majority of our team were simply bullied yesterday by a more determined team who came with an obvious game plan which worked. They just got the ball foward as quickly as possible, trying to get behind our flat footed back four. Dunks was the only one who won his battle, albeit he was awful on the ball. Johnson, one of best players, had a poorish game, but is the only player out wide that tries to get to the byline and cross the ball. Skatz and Edwards offer no width or pace to help breakdown teams. This made it much easier contain us. Let's face it they won at a canter. Hopefully on Tuesday, we put in a much bigger shift. Raglan won most of his one on one duals in the air, and up until they scored theirs goals looked more comfortably on the ball than Dunkley which isn't surprising as he hasn't played in months. I hate to say it, but Scarz was at fault for their first goal, and between him and Edwards (initial cross into the box, when he could of got rid of the ball) were at fault for their second as our defence got in a mess. Dunks has an aerial presence, but that's it.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 5, 2017 11:07:10 GMT
Brizzle had done their homework. They had us Sussed from the kick off. Simple tactics of giving us no space whatsoever and putting 2 sometimes 3 players on our midfield and forwards when they were in possession. Our passing when we did any was lethargic at times whereas the gas were quick, enthusiastic and direct in everything they did. We are not good at head tennis either whereas their end product was more accurate . I doubt that our performance yesterday will be lost on nice Mr Wilder All in all , they outplayed and outfought us and, it hurts to say, they thoroughly deserved the win Other issues....It seemed to me that as is often the case at the Kashstad, in the first 10 minutes the opposing team tests the ref to see what he is going to allow. Yesterday it quickly became apparent that Brizzle were going to be allowed to get away with everything...and the yellows? ....nothing. There were several occasions when obvious fouls on our players were actually given the other way...and as for the 'hand ball' incident, I guess we were lucky that the ineffectual Lino was actually awake at that point in the game. 😱 Oh well, back to a nice easy one on Tuesday evening. COYYs! 😊 Agree about the referee. How he didn't book their player for coming through McAleny and butting him the back of the head, and given their defender a foul when Martinez was just trying to hold his ground when their defender(s) were all over him. Martinez had no protection whatsoever. The ref was worse than useless. Looked like Basil Faulty out there.
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Post by mooro on Mar 5, 2017 11:42:25 GMT
Could have done with at least one attacking option on the bench, just to shake it up a bit - shame they've only just sent Roberts and Graham out on loan, would have been good for one of them to have had a run out if nothing else Neither are still here because neither is anywhere near good enough. As the guy on the phone in said, we simply don't have enough of squad players that could slot into the team, when we have injuries. Players such as Ruffles. The minute we end up with a couple of injuries, we cant fill a bench.
You cannot include youth as part of squad numbers, and then tell everyone we have a squad of 21 players, as we did last summer.
Simply put this is the reason we wont be able to sustain a promotion push, our squad is 3 players short of being a proper sized squad.
Also begs the question why we let McDonald go in the window?
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 5, 2017 11:45:15 GMT
Neither are still here because neither is anywhere near good enough. As the guy on the phone in said, we simply don't have enough of squad players that could slot into the team, when we have injuries. Players such as Ruffles. The minute we end up with a couple of injuries, we cant fill a bench.
You cannot include youth as part of squad numbers, and then tell everyone we have a squad of 21 players, as we did last summer.
Simply put this is the reason we wont be able to sustain a promotion push, our squad is 3 players short of being a proper sized squad.
Also begs the question why we let McDonald go in the window? So that we had the wages free to sign mcAleny and Martinez
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Post by concretebob on Mar 5, 2017 11:45:56 GMT
Neither are still here because neither is anywhere near good enough. As the guy on the phone in said, we simply don't have enough of squad players that could slot into the team, when we have injuries. Players such as Ruffles. The minute we end up with a couple of injuries, we cant fill a bench.
You cannot include youth as part of squad numbers, and then tell everyone we have a squad of 21 players, as we did last summer.
Simply put this is the reason we wont be able to sustain a promotion push, our squad is 3 players short of being a proper sized squad.
Also begs the question why we let McDonald go in the window? Absolutely. Think he would been one player who would have made a difference yesterday
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 5, 2017 13:26:28 GMT
To be fair to Dunkley, I thought the first booking was harsh considering what wasn't punished earlier. He did look a lot assured not having Nelson next to him.,
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