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Post by shosho on Dec 10, 2016 18:49:11 GMT
We hardly play to his strengths. He is a box player, he has some nice link up play but I don't think we give him what he needs. Smashing the ball up to him aimlessly as we did in the first half is hardly going to help. He had 1 opportunity that he thrives off...in the first half when Johnson smashed the cross across the six yard box. Aside from that he received little service and unlike some other strikers doesn't have other components to his game. Get the the ball wide and play along the floor with the crosses, that's where Hemmings will get his goals. Despite that, how many has he scored this season? A natural will get the goals no matter how he gets the ball.. Ok, let's just keep smashing it up to him and whinge when it doesn't work.
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Post by shosho on Dec 10, 2016 18:49:58 GMT
We hardly play to his strengths. He is a box player, he has some nice link up play but I don't think we give him what he needs. Smashing the ball up to him aimlessly as we did in the first half is hardly going to help. He had 1 opportunity that he thrives off...in the first half when Johnson smashed the cross across the six yard box. Aside from that he received little service and unlike some other strikers doesn't have other components to his game. Get the the ball wide and play along the floor with the crosses, that's where Hemmings will get his goals. Despite that, how many has he scored this season? What about that absolute sitter he missed in the second half? Was that the back to goal volley?
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Post by makv on Dec 10, 2016 18:55:07 GMT
First time I'd seen us play for a couple months, and what a difference two months makes. Lunny looked back to his best, he was running the show, some of his balls in the second half were unbelievable. Johnson at left back actually looked surprisingly effective, someone on the radio after said he was a more complete player than ODowda and tbh he does look it. Defended reasonably solidly from what I remember and got some good balls in. Hall is a madness, he's exactly what we were all moaning we needed, a quick exciting player who takes players on (and beats them with consulate ease) and drives us forward. First I'd seen him and was very impressed. HE faded a bit in the first half (in a period when the whole team did - why tf with lemmings and maguire up front would you play hoofball? looked 1000000x better with the ball on the ground second half) but looked brilliant otherwise. Maguire is unreal. he just does not get tackled, ever, he doesnt even seem that quick one second he's shielding the ball with his body the next he's glided around the man and is off, its surreal. Not sure about Ledson - wanted to like him more than I did. Displayed some nice little touches but wasn't really the tough-tackling I had been lead to believe he was. Hemmings non-existent. only things of note I recall him doing were playing neat little one-twos with players around the box, which, which, while they were good, are surely more the game of a link-up player or target man - and if thats the role he's playing, surely taylor is a better option? Eastwood howler for the goal it has to be said, was never gonna win it, but otherwise sound. Others may disagree but I don't think the ref was actually that bad. He gave us a lot around their box, and the penalty shouts at the end were pretty soft. I don't really know what he could have been expected to do about their players' 'injuries' (which hilariously totally ceased as soon as we scored) and I have seen worse time-wasting from a goalie than theirs, but he did give us loads of extra time to compensate. wish he hadn't sent off their player, he was rubbish hahaha, should have kept him on and continued letting RH skip past him. All in all, wonderfully entertaining second half, players seemed so up for it and not really sure what else we could have done. shame we conceded such a soft goal because they were total rubbish. don't think they strung three passes together all game, seemed a standard below most of the teams i saw us play last season. hope their keeper and captain get bans for the gestures at the end. Yup. I'd agree with a lot of this. I was impressed by Johnson today, to be honest. Good move by Appleton in the last 15(?) to bring Ruffels on for Macca so he could move forward. Dunkley to blame for the free kick which lead to the goal. Other than that, Oldham were tripe. I also thought the ref was pretty good up until about 70 minutes. I thought he lost it after that. Hall deserved the yellow, despite what Appleton said post-match (Hall admitted it himself). I need to see the red card incident again, but live I didn't even think it was yellow. Happy to be wrong though. Should have won 3-1 really and I'm sure Oldham fans went home happy.
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Post by makv on Dec 10, 2016 18:58:43 GMT
This was the same Conor Ripley who was absolute dog shit for us in his thankfully few loan appearances? Yes, lots of "Oxford reject" chants from the East Stand.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 19:13:22 GMT
From what I can piece together with flag gate is that both sides let themselves down today. It sounds like flags cannot be waved in games and they were, blocking peoples view - maybe a steward was hit - which makes the following palaver make sense a little more. I've had a couple of close shaves with the flags in the past couple of seasons where the waver has been unaware of the flag being close to peoples heads/eyes and seemed unconcerned when asked to be more careful. I found some of the abuse towards the stewards distasteful and speaking to someone at half time, it seems the flag bearers let themselves down a touch when the toys exited the pram about being asked to put the big flags away. I only saw a couple of lads in a major huff exit with a box of flags. Cooler heads should have prevailed with everyone but having seen the issue the club have had with flares, some of the fan base (assume unconnected incidents) need to tone their egos down a touch. Sad really as it wasn't needed. Perhaps the club should've organised a sit down between the Safety Officer and the Ultras so that the ground rules were set. I suspect it wasn't and thus today occurred. Just seen the goal on TV. He was onside but to be fair I thought he was off too at the game. Flags and flares are totally different though. Flares can obviously cause serious injury, but flags are at worst an inconvenience. If a flag is spoiling someones enjoyment of the match then it should come down, but otherwise keep em flying. I notice that the Oldham fans were still waving there's at different time throughout the match. Taking the banners down might have looked a bit childish, but how else to make the protest? I've no connection with the Ultras but I'm right behind them on this one.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Dec 10, 2016 19:15:43 GMT
I do like Lunny and Lego! Both go about their work quietly and keep things ticking over. I don't think Lunny gave the ball away and was spraying some lovely balls about.
Dunks needs a rest IMO, get raglan back in.
Goal was offside and a mistake from Easty but after how good he has been I think he is allowed off this once.
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Post by bacon on Dec 10, 2016 19:17:52 GMT
What about that absolute sitter he missed in the second half? Was that the back to goal volley? Yes, the one 7 yards out. Shocking to not make the keeper work from there
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Post by behindthegoal on Dec 10, 2016 19:21:18 GMT
Hemmings was not worth the money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 19:24:02 GMT
He'll be better with more games.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 10, 2016 19:24:57 GMT
He'll be better with more games. And more service
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Post by bigronaldo on Dec 10, 2016 19:25:15 GMT
Thank god we don't have to watch those oldham bruiseball spoilers evey week. Talk about gamesmanship! They were truly awful and we really should be talking about how we failed to roll them over. For the first time this season i have seen a side who deserve relegation. A total disgrace!
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Post by ttg17 on Dec 10, 2016 19:26:53 GMT
On their forum they're pointing out that our player didn't even get a yellow for 'punching (their #9) in the head'. Did that happen? Fairly sure it didn't ...
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Post by shosho on Dec 10, 2016 19:28:41 GMT
Was that the back to goal volley? Yes, the one 7 yards out. Shocking to not make the keeper work from there I may be wrong but seem to remember it being in the edge of the box? Also, our players in the warm up seem to struggle volleying even facing the goal. I think is harsh to put that down as a sitter.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 10, 2016 19:29:19 GMT
On their forum they're pointing out that our player didn't even get a yellow for 'punching (their #9) in the head'. Did that happen? Fairly sure it didn't ... Think that was when hall got taken out he stood up and squared up to the guy who dropped without even being touched. Thought he did get a booking for it though
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Dec 10, 2016 19:34:33 GMT
Was that the back to goal volley? Yes, the one 7 yards out. Shocking to not make the keeper work from there It wasn't seven yards out. Waiting for a ball to come down, turning and then getting a good connection on the volley with defenders around is hard. Have you played football?
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 19:36:02 GMT
On their forum they're pointing out that our player didn't even get a yellow for 'punching (their #9) in the head'. Did that happen? Fairly sure it didn't ... There was an incident late on in the 2nd half where one of ours (Maguire?) was brought down in an obvious foul. He leapt up and theirs went to ground as if pole-axed. It was a blatant dive and there wasn't any contact but it was at the east end, so from the away fans perspective it probably did look bad.
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Post by bacon on Dec 10, 2016 19:37:07 GMT
Yes, the one 7 yards out. Shocking to not make the keeper work from there I may be wrong but seem to remember it being in the edge of the box? Also, our players in the warm up seem to struggle volleying even facing the goal. I think is harsh to put that down as a sitter. Ok maybe not a sitter. But, for a striker who we paid a substantial amount of money for, id expect him to be making the keeper work from that chance. I genuinely couldn't believe he didn't hit the target. I think he even had time to take a touch if I remember correctly
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Post by grenobleroad on Dec 10, 2016 19:38:17 GMT
Hemmings was not worth the money. Really? What did he cost 250k? He's worth his price tag, the key is to make him worth more. I would like to think the team could help him out there more. I expect him to finish 1 in 5 shots on average. If he could finish better then that he would be gone in January.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Dec 10, 2016 19:45:42 GMT
Oldham were truly dismal and they burgled that point. Of all the teams I have seen this season, they look like the best candidates for relegation.
The ref was as weak as water - constantly missed holding all over the place, their lad who was sent off should have been booked before he was (first time) for the first tackle he made in the game, but the bloke who got booked for a high foot shouldn't have been. And then he went card happy and all officious towards the end.
He wasn't the reason we didn't win though. Put that down to (another) poor first half performance, an inability to finish and the occasional 'bad decision in the final third'.
Still not convinced at all by Hemmings. He does not influence the game enough over the 90 minutes for me.
I REALLY hope the club, safety officer, bouncers (sorry 'stewards') and Ultras can sort out their differences. Matches will be all the poorer for any reduction in their activities (apart from the pyro IF that's them). Maybe the flag wavers could stand right at the back? Stick to the 'After goals but otherwise not during active play' rule if that is now clear? But threatening to chuck them all out was ridiculously heavy-handed.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 19:55:38 GMT
the bloke who got booked for a high foot shouldn't have been. I thought he was lucky not to get a straight red. Fair enough, I don't think it was intentional, but even accidently kicking your openent in the head is hardly a minor infringement.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Dec 10, 2016 19:58:58 GMT
the bloke who got booked for a high foot shouldn't have been. I thought he was lucky not to get a straight red. Fair enough, I don't think it was intentional, but even accidently kicking your openent in the head is hardly a minor infringement. I didn't think that he was even aware there was an opposition player near him until it was too late. The ball dropped over his shoulder and he tried to hook it away - and our player ducked into it as well. A red card for that would have been very very harsh indeed.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 20:07:41 GMT
I thought he was lucky not to get a straight red. Fair enough, I don't think it was intentional, but even accidently kicking your openent in the head is hardly a minor infringement. I didn't think that he was even aware there was an opposition player near him until it was too late. The ball dropped over his shoulder and he tried to hook it away - and our player ducked into it as well. A red card for that would have been very very harsh indeed. By "lucky not to have got a straight red" I didn't mean I thought he ought to have done, just that if the ref had seen it from a different angle it could well have looked like a straight red. Although there was no intent, it was still negligent and dangerous, so I don't think he can complain too much about the yellow.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Dec 10, 2016 21:02:38 GMT
p*ssed off with these comments about Hemmings. 10 goals so far and playing in the wrong role. Put Taylor and him up front and see a partnership develop.
And I don't have words to describe people who want Hylton back.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 10, 2016 21:05:39 GMT
p*ssed off with these comments about Hemmings. 10 goals so far and playing in the wrong role. Put Taylor and him up front and see a partnership develop. And I don't have words to describe people who want Hylton back. Same for me. Taylor and hemmings. With hall left and maguire right. If we can bring in a player that plays Taylor's role with a few more goals in Jan even better
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Dec 10, 2016 21:06:09 GMT
Oldham havent won in the last 5 and we are unbeaten in the last 5. So should be a home banker LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE NOW. *fist shake*
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Post by 54-46 on Dec 10, 2016 21:09:55 GMT
This was the same Conor Ripley who was absolute dog shit for us in his thankfully few loan appearances? Yes and he was turgid during his spell with us.
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Post by bicesterox on Dec 10, 2016 21:37:52 GMT
This was the same Conor Ripley who was absolute dog shit for us in his thankfully few loan appearances? Yes and he was turgid during his spell with us. His ONLY appearance for us...pointless signing by Wilder...could have played Max but bought in 17 year old Ripley only to replace him with 17 year old Martinez in the next game...lost both games so may as well have given Max his chance Ripley was a t*at today
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Post by grumpygit on Dec 10, 2016 21:55:33 GMT
Missed it. What did Maguire do? Gk was giving w*nker signs to the east stand, when they gave a bit back, their defender came over and walked the gk back and started sarcastic clapping the oufc fans, then gave a few gestures himself. Maguire wondered over dropped his shoulder and went straight into him. Bit of pushing and shoving in maguire back as he just strolled off and dunkley got between them . Got a massive cheer from those left Both Oldham players gave the w*nker signs. Problem is the ref wouldn't have seen it so nothing at all will take place. For professional players to do that sums up what a bunch they are. Very brave to do that. Thought the ref was trying to do the right thing, but Oldham had him in their pocket. The injuries from where? the time wasting, the kicking the ball away etc. It all flew past him. Got to say after watching Oldham and their tactics, I hope they get relegated. They don't deserve to be in a league where football is played.
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Post by daveoufc on Dec 10, 2016 21:56:33 GMT
Was that the back to goal volley? Yes, the one 7 yards out. Shocking to not make the keeper work from there Thought it was a guilt edged chance and he shanked the 3 points wide with it discraceful miss those have to go in . He seemed to work for a while after that and battled to hold a ball up and lay it off. With the ref i thought Dunks was lucky with his 2 footed lunge like at macc and hall pushed their player over in front of ref whilst on a yellow. Why cant we play against those type of teams we really never have under Mapp. Loved the London rd esq "Appleton Appleton knock him out " chant
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Post by ttg17 on Dec 10, 2016 22:08:50 GMT
On their forum they're pointing out that our player didn't even get a yellow for 'punching (their #9) in the head'. Did that happen? Fairly sure it didn't ... There was an incident late on in the 2nd half where one of ours (Maguire?) was brought down in an obvious foul. He leapt up and theirs went to ground as if pole-axed. It was a blatant dive and there wasn't any contact but it was at the east end, so from the away fans perspective it probably did look bad. nah it wasn't that because in the same post the guy also referred to 'one of (our) players pushing one of (theirs) in the chest with both hands', which they also felt warranted a red card (?!). i think it is so interesting how based on which team you support your perception of the game utterly changes. not one of them comments anything about what an embarrassment to football their team was, which was my and I'm sure many others' overriding impression of men in white after today
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