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Post by androidyellow2 on Aug 23, 2016 21:02:35 GMT
Rothwell was class, not a left winger either. Would love to see him central, definitely a winger and Curtis Nelson short of being a top team. Just seen Nelson wearing on of those big leg braces/supports Longer than 4 weeks I wonder?
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Post by oufc28 on Aug 23, 2016 21:02:58 GMT
Didn't think that was so bad. Rothwell looked the nuts. 4-3 would have been a fair scoreline. Lualua different Gravy, tore Sam long a new one all game. Enjoyed it though To be honest and with no disrespect to Sam long, if an ex premier league player and regular championship started couldn't get the better of him then he has issues. Lua lua was good at times but his diving and moaning took the gloss away and any credit of a good performance.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 23, 2016 21:13:11 GMT
Didn't think that was so bad. Rothwell looked the nuts. 4-3 would have been a fair scoreline. Lualua different Gravy, tore Sam long a new one all game. Enjoyed it though To be honest and with no disrespect to Sam long, if an ex premier league player and regular championship started couldn't get the better of him then he has issues. Lua lua was good at times but his diving and moaning took the gloss away and any credit of a good performance. It was more that manu diving I thought.
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Post by oufc28 on Aug 23, 2016 21:21:33 GMT
To be honest and with no disrespect to Sam long, if an ex premier league player and regular championship started couldn't get the better of him then he has issues. Lua lua was good at times but his diving and moaning took the gloss away and any credit of a good performance. It was more that manu diving I thought. Either one of them, it was quite bad really. Didn't think Brighton would be that sort of side. Just goes to show that even the better sides need a dirty side.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 23, 2016 21:23:22 GMT
Thought the ref did quite well with it though, especially booming manu for diving and lualua for protesting. And the silly idiot over the throw in. Although he then let the bloody sub On anyway, without looking like he knew to much about it
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Post by holdsteady on Aug 23, 2016 21:24:48 GMT
Entertaining but slightly strange game, after playing them at home in a friendly a month ago and being embarrassed (something which contributed to a terrible crowd), we then went behind almost straight away and could of been out of it in the first twenty. Turned it round and made a game of it, could of had a couple more but then they could of as well as both sides didn't seem to bothered about (or in our case incapable of) defending properly.
Seemed like a friendly at times. Be interesting to see how much our defence improves with Nelson and Edwards in it, at the moment it's shaky every time we are under attack, even allowing for how good Brighton's attack was.
Compared to the friendly I watched not a dreadful night, and not an embarrassment but it's Clutching at straws to take any more than that from it.
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Post by foley on Aug 23, 2016 21:27:27 GMT
I thought that it was a very good game. Brighton may well go up to the Premiership and were very clinical and very pacy on the break.
We played very well however and could easily have got a result. Rothwell, Thomas, Lundstrom, Eastwood and Dunkey had very good games and nobody really had a poor game (I have been disappointed with Hemmings so far though).
A surprisingly poor crowd although Brighton brought a fair few and the Ultras made a lot of noise for such a poor number of supporters.
Entertaining game and in the past 2 games we are looking far more like we did last season.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 23, 2016 21:31:37 GMT
text from a Brighton supporting mate at the game (I couldn't make it unfortunately) "You hit the bar with a tremendous effort and we break and score. Funny old game" We were on top for most of the second half, but a second goal out of nothing and two goals in quick succession by them when we're unlucky not to equalise was a kick in the teeth. Played well in parts tonight. Good game, but just a shame about the result. Please give us a win Saturday, but we all know deep down that it won't happen and Wilder will have that smirky smile on H's face.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 23, 2016 21:38:25 GMT
I actually think if Lundstrum's shot went in to make it 2-2 we would have gone on to win the game.
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Post by foley on Aug 23, 2016 21:44:24 GMT
I actually think if Lundstrum's shot went in to make it 2-2 we would have gone on to win the game. It would have been a fantastic goal. Ruffels should really have scored seconds before that.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 23, 2016 21:52:13 GMT
Ruffles needs to come off corners and free kicks. I like the guy, but they are not for him. Crowd was strange, thought it was pretty well priced and should have been more there, on a nice summers evening. Imagine how low the pisspot trophy gate is going to be
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Post by pottersrightboot on Aug 23, 2016 22:43:53 GMT
Enjoyable game, plenty of space on offer , both on and off the pitch.
p*ss poor crowd to be honest. Rothwell impressed me but the team still lacks balance. Dunkley is a class act, he is losing his rawness.
Best signing of the summer ? Eastwood, a cut above any keeper we have had for the last 15-20 years. A solid reassuring presence. (Yes I know we let in 4 but you had to be there.)
Ruffls should have buried his chance, my grandma is a better finisher. Brighton very slick, look very well coached.
Despite all the above think we will have a good season, keep the faith.
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Post by foley on Aug 24, 2016 6:27:35 GMT
Ruffles needs to come off corners and free kicks. I like the guy, but they are not for him. Crowd was strange, thought it was pretty well priced and should have been more there, on a nice summers evening. Imagine how low the pisspot trophy gate is going to be Arguably the worst crowd we have had at the Kassam taking account of the fact that we were playing a very good side in the Championship having knocked one out in the previous round and who themselves brought decent support. I was very surprised how bad the crowd was. Maybe even supporters from lower leagues can't be bothered with the League Cup (what a shame as we once won it) as well as the JPT.
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Post by KLYellow on Aug 24, 2016 6:44:30 GMT
Ruffles needs to come off corners and free kicks. I like the guy, but they are not for him. Crowd was strange, thought it was pretty well priced and should have been more there, on a nice summers evening. Imagine how low the pisspot trophy gate is going to be Arguably the worst crowd we have had at the Kassam taking account of the fact that we were playing a very good side in the Championship having knocked one out in the previous round and who themselves brought decent support. I was very surprised how bad the crowd was. Maybe even supporters from lower leagues can't be bothered with the League Cup (what a shame as we once won it) as well as the JPT. Agreed, if you look at most of the attendances last night, they were very poor.
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Post by essexyellows on Aug 24, 2016 6:44:50 GMT
People moaning about the crowd should consider that £15 for 90 minutes is overpriced. Would have been better promoting it at £5 for adults and kids for £1. Overpriced matches make folk consider where to spend their money.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 24, 2016 6:48:37 GMT
£15 ain't over priced ! Turn up on the day for a league game in the east stand and its £20. Was Swansea overpriced ? It cost more than last night and was a full house. I've spent more than £15 to stand at some shitty non league grounds
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Post by middlebartonyellow on Aug 24, 2016 6:49:27 GMT
I didn't go and I reckon it's the first home league cup game I've missed since the 70s. Mid week games are just a pain because of work so I decided to duck it. Thought we would lose heavily as well. Sign of the times regarding the crowd for cup games.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 24, 2016 6:58:26 GMT
I think some of our fans got confused with the EFL Cup and EFL Trophy, hence the low attendance.
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Post by foley on Aug 24, 2016 7:36:34 GMT
People moaning about the crowd should consider that £15 for 90 minutes is overpriced. Would have been better promoting it at £5 for adults and kids for £1. Overpriced matches make folk consider where to spend their money. I don't think that it was the price that was the issue. I think that people can't be bothered to go to Cup games. I wonder if the way that things are going the FA Cup will eventually go the same way? £15 for a game against a Top of the Championship side when we beat Birmingham in the last round is hardly excessive I would have thought? My suspicion i that even at £10 a ticket the crowd would not have been that much bigger as people appear to have not been bothered. Interestingly there was excellent support from Brighton.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 24, 2016 7:43:41 GMT
£15 is not over priced at all, but I like others chose not to go for a number of reasons. One is the recent gubbing by them. I know 2 other ST holders that are on holiday at the moment so obviously weren't there.
Cup matches not against big clubs will always be a struggle for the club. There is little enticement for people to go. The days of people turning up to every home game are long gone
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 24, 2016 7:44:34 GMT
I'm not quite sure how I managed to enjoy a 4-2 loss at home - but I did. I was disappointed by our crowd, Brighton brought a surprisingly large amount (well done them).
I thought our lads stuck to their task manfully (especially after such an awful start) and was glad we got another goal at the end as a three goal loss wouldn't have actually reflected the game at all.
We have no pace (and are vulnerable against it), Edwards is several notches above Long. Skarz and Ruffels did OK in unaccustomed positions. I worry a bit about our inability to stop players crossing the ball. Sometimes our defence falls back too easily, giving up space and room just outside the penalty area. Roberts isn't really a winger, he want to come inside all the time. Movement off the ball was a bit better, but still needs improvement. Crowley is a) talented b) selfish. Delivery from dead balls needs some work. Eastwood is bloody excellent, Rothwell improving rapidly. Are Hemmings and Thomas a bit too similar to play together successfully? Not a single clean sheet yet (despite Eastwood).
We are still a little way (and a couple of experienced players) off being a good side IMO.
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Post by unification on Aug 24, 2016 7:50:59 GMT
Everyone rightly tries to cite a single reason why the crowd was so low but really there are many - prime summer holiday season, chance of an Oxford win low, Brighton aren't the lure of one of the top PL sides, midweek fixtures lose a certain cross section of support and so on.
One observation from the highlights - we clear the second ball appallingly. Too often we got a defender there first only for them to tamely knock it into danger. Weak headers or blind passes to a midfield who must have been up the other end of the field. That element needs sorting desperately.
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Post by charliesghost on Aug 24, 2016 8:16:59 GMT
Enjoyable game, plenty of space on offer , both on and off the pitch. p*ss poor crowd to be honest. Rothwell impressed me but the team still lacks balance. Dunkley is a class act, he is losing his rawness. Best signing of the summer ? Eastwood, a cut above any keeper we have had for the last 15-20 years. A solid reassuring presence. (Yes I know we let in 4 but you had to be there.) Ruffls should have buried his chance, my grandma is a better finisher. Brighton very slick, look very well coached. Despite all the above think we will have a good season, keep the faith. Agree with much of the detail of that - Eastwood really is a very good 'keeper. Clarke with better distribution. Makes Mrs Slocombe look like a schoolboy!! But I hope, as a club, that we've moved on enough not to need or want to 'take the positives' from getting mullered at home by a reserve side from one league above. As other results on the night demonstrated - and as we showed against Sheff Wed's first team at the same stage last year - a gap in quality is not a reason not to be highly competitive. And, frankly, in the first twenty minutes last night, we were not competitive. They could, and should, have been out of sight. At least three glaring misses, and two good saves from Eastwood. All that before we even put an attack together. Sure, once we had had that let-off, and once they started taking the p*ss (unwisely), we got a foothold in the game. But I'm sure that isn't good enough for Apples. The sign of a competitive side is that they compete when the other side are 'at it', not just once they are allowed to compete. PRB, I don't know what your definition of a 'good season' is right now. I know before the start of the campaign, it was Top 6. It's very early days - and we could still recruit two game-changers - but at this point I'd suggest that a team that is going to compete at the top of League 1 would be giving any Championship reserve side a beating at home. Just as, last year, we proved we were a top League 2 side by being highly competitive (and better) against Swindon, Millwall and Barnsley. In those four games, we shipped a total of fewer goals than we conceded last night. So I guess let's hope that Edwards and Nelson tighten us up!
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Post by essexyellows on Aug 24, 2016 8:23:01 GMT
People moaning about the crowd should consider that £15 for 90 minutes is overpriced. Would have been better promoting it at £5 for adults and kids for £1. Overpriced matches make folk consider where to spend their money. I don't think that it was the price that was the issue. I think that people can't be bothered to go to Cup games. I wonder if the way that things are going the FA Cup will eventually go the same way? £15 for a game against a Top of the Championship side when we beat Birmingham in the last round is hardly excessive I would have thought? My suspicion i that even at £10 a ticket the crowd would not have been that much bigger as people appear to have not been bothered. Interestingly there was excellent support from Brighton. Problem is that the more folk accept it as "OK" the worse it gets. We were playing a weakened/reserve/fringe Brighton team that had beaten us pre-season so there was a fairly obvious need to do something to boost the predictable poor crowd. Comparing it to Swansea in the FA cup is unrealistic....different competition, on a weekend etc etc. Scrap the pisspot trophy. Just have the League Cup & FA Cup..... the fans wallets are getting weary and there are plenty of other things to spend £15 on.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 24, 2016 8:30:31 GMT
Agree with the last bit, the trophy attendance is going to be tiny. Also with the ultras not attending, will be no noise or flags. Might even go under 1k home fans
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 24, 2016 8:31:08 GMT
Scrap the pisspot trophy. Just have the League Cup & FA Cup..... the fans wallets are getting weary and there are plenty of other things to spend £15 on. That was the League Cup last night. And I suspect the 'Trophy' attendance will make last night's crowd look like Wembley.
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Post by MJB on Aug 24, 2016 8:37:19 GMT
I think the League Cup would be significantly improved if it allowed Premier League sides to enter B-teams of youth players.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Aug 24, 2016 8:57:46 GMT
I think the League Cup would be significantly improved if it allowed Premier League sides to enter B-teams of youth players. I for one would vote for this on a one-off basis but hugely disagree with it happening again in the future for some reason.
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Post by m on Aug 24, 2016 9:01:19 GMT
I think the League Cup would be significantly improved if it allowed Premier League sides to enter B-teams of youth players. I for one would vote for this on a one-off basis but hugely disagree with it happening again in the future for some reason. Well I would boycot it. I have to write that on here as I didn't go last night and nobody would know I was boycotting otherwise.
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Post by berliner on Aug 24, 2016 9:08:14 GMT
One observation from the highlights - we clear the second ball appallingly. Too often we got a defender there first only for them to tamely knock it into danger. Weak headers or blind passes to a midfield who must have been up the other end of the field. That element needs sorting desperately. This has been an issue ever since I have watched us, to be honest.
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