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Post by shaunrice on Mar 20, 2016 7:21:52 GMT
I'm really worried, not about the stadium that's nothing compared to what is going to happen soon. OMFG! It's really really bad. No worse that that. I wish I could tell you about it. But I can't. I can't even tell you how I know, I just do. Let's leave it there. Now please can you lot please speculate and talk about me me me whilst I touch myself!
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Post by uptheus on Mar 20, 2016 7:49:26 GMT
There is a much larger issue brewing in the background . I told them not to put that tea urn on. Now things are really hotting up!
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Post by old on Mar 20, 2016 8:06:18 GMT
There is a much larger issue brewing in the background . Pointless, complete waste of time posting this. You think so? Only time will tell.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Mar 20, 2016 8:21:00 GMT
Pointless, complete waste of time posting this. You think so? Only time will tell. What's up old? Are things going too well for you this season? Isn't there anything to moan about so you need to try and create gossip?
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Post by uptheus on Mar 20, 2016 8:23:54 GMT
Pointless, complete waste of time posting this. You think so? Only time will tell. So what do you know?
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 20, 2016 8:55:43 GMT
I sense u will be right what ever happens.
Something good - told u Something bad- see I told u Nothing- it was sorted out behind the scenes, which is lucky cos it was massive. But id still better not say what
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Post by saddletramp on Mar 20, 2016 8:56:37 GMT
There is a much larger issue brewing in the background . Robert Maxwell is alive and well and lawyers will prove that he is still the rightful owner of OUFC. He is as we speak,sailing his Yacht Lady Ghislaine up the Thames towards Oxford with a hold full of Nazi gold. He is going to claim his birthright,knock down that monstrosity of a hospital in Headington and build a beautiful stadium with 10 stands. He will also knock down that breeze block abomination in East Oxford and build a mock Bavarian castle on the site and call it the Wolfs lair. He will then set himself up as a Pension Adviser,telling people from printing firms how to best invest their money. We will march through the leagues to claim our place at the top table,MApp will be a hero but will fall out with Maxwell after promotion to the Premier league,due to the fact the "Fat Bob" wont replace his Austin Allegro for a new Skoda. Bobs reasoning being "how can you replace a Cowley build legend for a dodgy Czech?" Derek Fazackerly will take over and guide us to a league cup final win. We will miss out on Europe due to English clubs being banned because of Brexit.
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Post by didcotox on Mar 20, 2016 11:12:40 GMT
Pointless, complete waste of time posting this. You think so? Only time will tell. What the point in insinuating you know something? If you do, tell us. If you do know something and feel you shouldn't divulge then keep your mouth shut. It just comes across as attention seeking.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 11:26:37 GMT
It's obvious Ka$$am is using the 4th stand as a ploy to try and get the council to sell the land north of the stadium for a pittance so that he can put in a couple of parking spaces and build his own housing estate. I dread to think what the quality of the housing will be like..
Can't OUFC try and persuade the council to insist that when the 4th stand is built that Ka$$am can only build on the land if he sells the stadium back to the club at a decent price. The OCC know all about him, he held them to ransom the first time around. I really hope they don't fall for his bull again.
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Post by blox21 on Mar 20, 2016 12:56:48 GMT
As someone else pointed out this time round there is no Nick Merry involved, who I thought was a double agent all a long ! So you would like to think we'd get a much better deal this time !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 13:10:23 GMT
If Ka$$am gets the housing deal then OUFC have to get the stadium. He'll only put the rent up if the 4th stand is built.
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Post by justoxford on Mar 20, 2016 21:31:36 GMT
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Post by Barts on Mar 20, 2016 22:18:01 GMT
It seems as though its an application of what Kassam was talking about on Friday. My only concern is if they fill in all four corners, once built could we still build on the east and west stand? Because as I understand it the east stand can have a second tier (hence the extra steps at the back of the stand) and I'd guess the same design was in place for the original west stand. Also with the corners filled in with flats we lose the opportunity to put in roughly 9000 seats. Admittedly its a wild dream we could have a 30000 stadium, but it takes away the dream nonetheless.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 20, 2016 22:52:27 GMT
We don't want the corners filled in for residential dwellings. This is Kassam's ace up the sleeve to force our hand in what the club really wants to do e.g. new stadium or purchase the Kassam!
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Post by oufcgav on Mar 21, 2016 9:08:57 GMT
It seems as though its an application of what Kassam was talking about on Friday. My only concern is if they fill in all four corners, once built could we still build on the east and west stand? Because as I understand it the east stand can have a second tier (hence the extra steps at the back of the stand) and I'd guess the same design was in place for the original west stand. Also with the corners filled in with flats we lose the opportunity to put in roughly 9000 seats. Admittedly its a wild dream we could have a 30000 stadium, but it takes away the dream nonetheless. The steps at the back of the East Stand aren't for a 2nd tier, was never mentioned in any plans I've seen (the only scope for expansion in the design is the corners). They were for an outside viewing area for a big lounge that was going to run the full width (kind of like a big exec box, but less exclusive) hence the lack of access from the front. The large void area behind the wall has never been developed, was originally supposed to be club offices/shop on ground floor, and big lounge up top.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 9:26:38 GMT
I'd like to see a two-tiered West Stand and stick the home fans in there. I'd love to be in the upper tier behind the goal, a little like the away end at Brentford.
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Post by londonroader on Mar 21, 2016 13:16:58 GMT
There is a much larger issue brewing in the background . yep the sewage works....
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Post by holdsteady on Mar 21, 2016 13:30:26 GMT
Pointless, complete waste of time posting this. You think so? Only time will tell. You could have a career as the new mystic Meg with your incredibly vague predictions of trouble ahead, as has been said if you know something say it, otherwise keep schtum.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 21, 2016 14:29:23 GMT
So are OxVox going to look into this? What's happened over the last year or so about us looking at acquiring the Kassam or another ground etc? We all know Kassam's isn't the Knight in Shining Armour, so we know this is for his benefit, but at what detriment to the club? This should be priority at the moment!
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Post by oxvox on Mar 21, 2016 15:05:42 GMT
We certainly are on this and are discussing the situation and 'opportunities' with the Club and have meetings planned in the diary with the relevant council representatives.
Cheers
Jem
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Post by Barts on Mar 21, 2016 16:02:46 GMT
It seems as though its an application of what Kassam was talking about on Friday. My only concern is if they fill in all four corners, once built could we still build on the east and west stand? Because as I understand it the east stand can have a second tier (hence the extra steps at the back of the stand) and I'd guess the same design was in place for the original west stand. Also with the corners filled in with flats we lose the opportunity to put in roughly 9000 seats. Admittedly its a wild dream we could have a 30000 stadium, but it takes away the dream nonetheless. The steps at the back of the East Stand aren't for a 2nd tier, was never mentioned in any plans I've seen (the only scope for expansion in the design is the corners). They were for an outside viewing area for a big lounge that was going to run the full width (kind of like a big exec box, but less exclusive) hence the lack of access from the front. The large void area behind the wall has never been developed, was originally supposed to be club offices/shop on ground floor, and big lounge up top. I knew about the space behind the wall in the east stand, I was repeating what I was told by the gent giving a stadium tour about three years ago.
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Post by foley on Mar 21, 2016 16:15:53 GMT
We certainly are on this and are discussing the situation and 'opportunities' with the Club and have meetings planned in the diary with the relevant council representatives. Cheers Jem Jem, You may not be able to answer this, but in broad terms, what is FK proposing and does it assume that the club does not buy the ground but the fourth stand still being built (ie) 'exciting' for FK and not Oxford United?
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Post by oxvox on Mar 21, 2016 16:50:48 GMT
Honestly don't know foley. What we do believe however is that there is a desire (from all the key parties) to do 'something'. The important thing is that that 'something' is in the best long term interests of OUFC.
Where there's a will and all that .....
Cheers
Jem
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 21, 2016 16:57:14 GMT
Honestly don't know foley. What we do believe however is that there is a desire (from all the key parties) to do 'something'. The important thing is that that 'something' is in the best long term interests of OUFC. Where there's a will and all that ..... Cheers Jem Jem can you find out if this proposed development of the West stand will incur more rent payable to Firoka?
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Post by eighteen93 on Mar 21, 2016 17:37:44 GMT
But Barry the flip side is that there maybe revenue raising opportunities too?
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Post by uptheus on Mar 21, 2016 20:10:26 GMT
Honestly don't know foley. What we do believe however is that there is a desire (from all the key parties) to do 'something'. The important thing is that that 'something' is in the best long term interests of OUFC. Where there's a will and all that ..... Cheers Jem Jem, do you/we know if Kassam's latest plans include building on the overflow car park? If so, I didn't think he could submit plans for this as this firms part of the CRTB? Jem, we know this guy (Kassam) is only out for himself. He may disguise it as he wants to get back in our good books as such, and Daryl isn't fully aware of how this guy works, so please please please keep your ears, eyes, in fact everything wide open. Oh, and we don't want flats in the corners!
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Post by myles on Mar 21, 2016 21:00:03 GMT
Honestly don't know foley. What we do believe however is that there is a desire (from all the key parties) to do 'something'. The important thing is that that 'something' is in the best long term interests of OUFC. Where there's a will and all that ..... Cheers Jem Jem, do you/we know if Kassam's latest plans include building on the overflow car park? If so, I didn't think he could submit plans for this as this firms part of the CRTB? Jem, we know this guy (Kassam) is only out for himself. He may disguise it as he wants to get back in our good books as such, and Daryl isn't fully aware of how this guy works, so please please please keep your ears, eyes, in fact everything wide open. Oh, and we don't want flats in the corners! As I understand it, until Kassam decides to actually sell, he can apply for planning permission and build to his heart's content. The CRTB only kicks in when he is going to sell. I'm sure OxVox will be all over this, but it is more important than ever for them to develop a fully independent opinion of the strengths and weaknesses of the various options around the stadium.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 21, 2016 22:07:46 GMT
Jem, do you/we know if Kassam's latest plans include building on the overflow car park? If so, I didn't think he could submit plans for this as this firms part of the CRTB? Jem, we know this guy (Kassam) is only out for himself. He may disguise it as he wants to get back in our good books as such, and Daryl isn't fully aware of how this guy works, so please please please keep your ears, eyes, in fact everything wide open. Oh, and we don't want flats in the corners! As I understand it, until Kassam decides to actually sell, he can apply for planning permission and build to his heart's content. The CRTB only kicks in when he is going to sell. I'm sure OxVox will be all over this, but it is more important than ever for them to develop a fully independent opinion of the strengths and weaknesses of the various options around the stadium. Thanks for clarifying that Myles, for some reason I was thinking the CRTB would cover planning as well! So even more worrying what Kassam could really do, but will the council allow it if it was at the detriment of the club? You're right when you say that OxVox need to remain fully independent at this critical juncture.
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Post by fatoldsun on Mar 23, 2016 22:38:34 GMT
Kassam will only do something if he can gain from it. If a way is found that the club can also gain from his plans, in both the short and medium term, then it makes sense. There's a saying - keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 24, 2016 7:47:09 GMT
Kassam will only do something if he can gain from it. If a way is found that the club can also gain from his plans, in both the short and medium term, then it makes sense. There's a saying - keep your friends close and your enemies closer. You're right when you say that Kassam will only do something if he's to gain from it, but what is also more important is our negotiation strength and at this moment we're in a strong position. Once he's had his wicked way with us again that might not be the case. For example, why doesn't the club purchase the stadium that would include the overflow car park land and get the planning permission to do what Kassam's planning on doing. A bit like what he did for the Manor. He took the club on with £5m debt, but got planning permission on the land and sold for £12m. Then we could use the revenue from that to build the fourth stand and remaining funds to offset against the purchase of the stadium! Or better still, move to Water Eton? I'm sure Kassam would pay us a handsome fee to move in order that he can make more money with the stadium land, plus grants and sponsorship etc. You never know, we could be in a new stadium with no mortgage!
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