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Post by 1OUFC on Oct 3, 2017 19:27:33 GMT
Does anyone know how close Obika and Tendhalli to returning.
Hall seems to be just a couple of weeks.
Raglan and Long out until the new year I think.
The new striker, that came on a free now has a hamstring. How long would that keep him out for?
Anyone else injured?
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Post by ian on Oct 3, 2017 20:42:46 GMT
Days, weeks or months for a hamstring...
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 3, 2017 21:47:03 GMT
Does anyone know how close Obika and Tendhalli to returning.
Hall seems to be just a couple of weeks.
Raglan and Long out until the new year I think.
The new striker, that came on a free now has a hamstring. How long would that keep him out for?
Anyone else injured? Depends very much on the grade and the amount of tissue damage. grade 1 would be a minor strain, recovery in days, grade 2 moderate tear several weeks, grade three severe tear or rupture, could be several months. Probably be scanned tomorrow and assessed.
With modern conditioning and strengthening regimes particularly to target the vulnerable tendons and muscles in the thigh and groin regions and proper warm up procedures to flex them there is absolutely no need for the frequency of injuries of this type.
It cant be just coincidental that all these signings are inherent crocks.
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Post by carefreeoufc on Oct 4, 2017 10:07:05 GMT
I would guess some of this is as a result of picking up slightly older players who, if having been out of the game for a while are not used to the rigours of professional football in England.
Thomas and Obika have had careers plagued with periods of injury (whether short term or long). It's the risk you take and a lot of consideration as to whether your sport science and physio teams are better able to manage players fitness than competitors.
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Post by gingerox on Oct 4, 2017 15:49:33 GMT
I don't know how relevant Mehmeti's earlier comments about the high intensity in training are to the injuries, but i was surprised considering the number of older and 'injury prone' players
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Post by oxfordboy on Oct 4, 2017 17:11:06 GMT
I don't know how relevant Mehmeti's earlier comments about the high intensity in training are to the injuries, but i was surprised considering the number of older and 'injury prone' players I don't think we've had an especially high amount of injuries really, especially when you consider how many of the squad have had trouble at previous clubs, and especially guys like Ribeiro, Tiendalli etc who haven't played much football at all for a long time I think generally the core group you'd expect to be starting for us has been pretty healthy so far with the exception of Ribeiro and Obika, who like I said have always struggled with their fitness
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Post by isibuko on Oct 4, 2017 17:11:55 GMT
I saw Mehmeti in Starbucks in Summertown earlier. He limped out but wasn't on crutches, which is a reasonable sign I suppose.
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Post by Yellow River on Oct 4, 2017 19:02:12 GMT
At the beginning of the season the manager is given a budget, he spends and assembles as he sees fit.
My view is that quality is better than quantity. Either can work or fail, luck will come into it as well as skill & nous.
I believe on the whole Appleton took the quality approach, he also went for younger, hungry players, we didn't have a huge squad under Appleton, an element of risk but on the whole it paid off.
Others will clamour for quantity over quality so long as we have 'strength in depth' . Pep with Eales blessing appear to have decided on this route. Older more experienced players signed, some with noted injury histories.
This is the risk you take.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 5, 2017 7:06:40 GMT
It's also about what is available to you at the time. If you have crock 1 and crock 2 available at the right money, you sign what you can.
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Post by highlights on Oct 5, 2017 8:23:48 GMT
I would add so much success in the lower leagues is down to luck regarding injuries. The most common complaint of sacked managers/coaches (apart from the age old classic, 'if I had five more games I could have turned it around!') is 'What did you expect, we had terrible luck with injuries'.
Good example is Leicester in their championship winning year. I don't think they lost any of their key players for more than a couple of weeks.
A well known motto in the game is: 'It's better to be a lucky footballer than a good one'!
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Post by juanpabloraponi on Oct 5, 2017 9:02:51 GMT
I saw Mehmeti in Starbucks in Summertown earlier. He limped out but wasn't on crutches, which is a reasonable sign I suppose. What did he order?
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Post by Young Money on Oct 5, 2017 9:59:58 GMT
I saw Mehmeti in Starbucks in Summertown earlier. He limped out but wasn't on crutches, which is a reasonable sign I suppose. What did he order? He shouldn't be in Starbucks if he's injured!!
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Post by derbyyellow on Oct 5, 2017 13:53:28 GMT
Charlie Raglan must be fed up.
With Dunkley leaving, he would have been in prime position to partner Nelson especially as Aaron Martin was coming back from injury. But instead he picks up his own injury and sees Williamson and Mousinho brought in. Come November time, we could well have Nelson, Mousinho, Williamson, Martin and Raglan who can play at centre back. Depending on where Pep sees Mousinho's long term role then you'd imagine Martin/Raglan may well be moved towards the exit at least on loan.
Similarly Sam Long. The poor lad can't stay fit and with Riberio, Carroll and Mousinho who can all play at right back plus the centre back coverage as above, I'm not sure if I see Long getting a look in.
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Post by littlemore on Oct 5, 2017 14:42:25 GMT
Raglan in my opinion was always signed to be a back up player the club would feel comfortable coming in if needed. Because of this when fit it probably will be Martin who is shipped out. Sam has been unlucky and if kept fit could have a good career but now very unlikely to be at Oxford. Probably needs to join a league 2 club in the summer and I wouldn't be surprised to see him make an impact.
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Post by ian on Oct 5, 2017 14:48:23 GMT
Charlie Raglan must be fed up. With Dunkley leaving, he would have been in prime position to partner Nelson especially as Aaron Martin was coming back from injury. But instead he picks up his own injury and sees Williamson and Mousinho brought in. Come November time, we could well have Nelson, Mousinho, Williamson, Martin and Raglan who can play at centre back. Depending on where Pep sees Mousinho's long term role then you'd imagine Martin/Raglan may well be moved towards the exit at least on loan. Similarly Sam Long. The poor lad can't stay fit and with Riberio, Carroll and Mousinho who can all play at right back plus the centre back coverage as above, I'm not sure if I see Long getting a look in. Fiacre Kelleher returns from loan in January. Another center back.
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 5, 2017 20:37:01 GMT
. A well known motto in the game is: 'It's better to be a lucky footballer than a good one'! Poor old Danny Welbeck
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Post by Junior on Oct 6, 2017 6:53:10 GMT
Raglan in my opinion was always signed to be a back up player the club would feel comfortable coming in if needed. Because of this when fit it probably will be Martin who is shipped out. Sam has been unlucky and if kept fit could have a good career but now very unlikely to be at Oxford. Probably needs to join a league 2 club in the summer and I wouldn't be surprised to see him make an impact. Speaks fluent Spanish don't forget!
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Post by 1OUFC on Oct 14, 2017 18:59:40 GMT
Pep said nothing of the 5 out injured most recently. Has anyone heard how Obika, Hall, Tendahlli, Van Kessell and Mechmetti are doing and when due back. Many Thanks.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Oct 14, 2017 19:56:36 GMT
I think in his post match interview he said that Obika, Hall and Tiendalli are back in training and close to returning?
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Post by yellowbow on Oct 15, 2017 5:46:35 GMT
Ivo Pekalski seems to have become the forgotten man. It's good to hear the injury updates from the players themselves, such as Raglan, but there's never any mention of or from Pekalski. Maybe Raglan is more comfortable talking to the press but it would be nice to hear how he's getting on.
For me he was one of the more exciting summer signings, would be good to see him back and joining up with the squad soon
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Post by makv on Oct 15, 2017 8:54:57 GMT
Ivo Pekalski seems to have become the forgotten man. It's good to hear the injury updates from the players themselves, such as Raglan, but there's never any mention of or from Pekalski. Maybe Raglan is more comfortable talking to the press but it would be nice to hear how he's getting on. For me he was one of the more exciting summer signings, would be good to see him back and joining up with the squad soon He was mentioned in the OM the other day. He’s gone back to Sweden for rest and recuperation.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 15, 2017 10:58:39 GMT
I think we will see all of Hall, GVK and Obika back by next weekend. I would imagine they didn't travel yesterday because the club preferred them to rest up rather than be hunched up on a coach etc. Sounds like it may be similar for Tiendalli also.
One thing is for sure - those three attacking players would suddenly make our options going forward look exceptionally healthy again.
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Post by makv on Oct 15, 2017 11:00:39 GMT
I think we will see all of Hall, GVK and Obika back by next weekend. I would imagine they didn't travel yesterday because the club preferred them to rest up rather than be hunched up on a coach etc. Sounds like it may be similar for Tiendalli also. One thing is for sure - those three attacking players would suddenly make our options going forward look exceptionally healthy again. The only “problem” that gives us is Hall vs. Henry.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 15, 2017 11:05:30 GMT
I think we will see all of Hall, GVK and Obika back by next weekend. I would imagine they didn't travel yesterday because the club preferred them to rest up rather than be hunched up on a coach etc. Sounds like it may be similar for Tiendalli also. One thing is for sure - those three attacking players would suddenly make our options going forward look exceptionally healthy again. The only “problem” that gives us is Hall vs. Henry. Why when u can just play hall on the left. And leave Henry in his best position.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 15, 2017 11:07:35 GMT
I think we will see all of Hall, GVK and Obika back by next weekend. I would imagine they didn't travel yesterday because the club preferred them to rest up rather than be hunched up on a coach etc. Sounds like it may be similar for Tiendalli also. One thing is for sure - those three attacking players would suddenly make our options going forward look exceptionally healthy again. The only “problem” that gives us is Hall vs. Henry. You'd have to say that at present it would be beyond harsh to drop Henry. He's excelled since Hall limped off at P'boro and is giving the side good balance next to Ribeiro. I suppose with two games this coming week that one or two may need a rest, though, so perhaps Hall will come back in for that reason alone. Bloody brilliant to have options though.
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Post by makv on Oct 15, 2017 11:11:46 GMT
The only “problem” that gives us is Hall vs. Henry. Why when u can just play hall on the left. And leave Henry in his best position. Right - but who do you leave out for Hall?
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 15, 2017 11:35:13 GMT
Why when u can just play hall on the left. And leave Henry in his best position. Right - but who do you leave out for Hall? Rothwell if we want to be more attacking, hall if we want to be more solid
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 15, 2017 12:09:18 GMT
He shouldn't be in Starbucks if he's injured!! Why ever not ?? if he's not expected to report to the club, he can do what he likes in his recovery time, within reason.
I saw a player and his wife in Browns last Wednesday enjoying a meal with a couple of friends.
All in moderation.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 15, 2017 12:27:51 GMT
There have been a couple of small updates with Ivo's injury in recent programmes. He has the biggest quad muscles in the squad and is ahead of schedule already and working hard to get back early.
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Post by Young Money on Oct 17, 2017 9:26:15 GMT
He shouldn't be in Starbucks if he's injured!! Why ever not ?? if he's not expected to report to the club, he can do what he likes in his recovery time, within reason.
I saw a player and his wife in Browns last Wednesday enjoying a meal with a couple of friends.
All in moderation.
Coffee can't be good for injuries. Nor sitting on your iMac writing a screenplay you can't help but casually mention to the barista
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