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Post by oxfordboy on Aug 22, 2017 10:48:37 GMT
I hope we've got someone coming in... Just had a look at his wiki and his goalscoring record is better than I thought for us, although it does say he scored 289 goals in 41 games for Dundee!!!! We done well to get him so cheap... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kane_HemmingsThat's because his record is wrong, he got 6 goals in 40 league games for us
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Post by highlights on Aug 22, 2017 10:48:48 GMT
Looks very much like a wage release to me. I suspect Pep was told he couldn't take in a player until the wage bill went down. Guesswork naturally, but I sense an incoming player.
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Aug 22, 2017 10:49:18 GMT
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Post by barryspang on Aug 22, 2017 10:49:18 GMT
I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say our new striker is to sign on a season long loan this week and we already have his song ready...😉 Let the cat out of the bag then, Barry....is it Caroline Aherne or Wozniacki? Toni Martinez.
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Post by foley on Aug 22, 2017 11:02:03 GMT
Let the cat out of the bag then, Barry....is it Caroline Aherne or Wozniacki? Toni Martinez. Stab in the dark barry? I am not so sure myself. This was a MAPP signing and whilst he may well improve, he hardly set the place alight?
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Post by yellowbow on Aug 22, 2017 11:10:40 GMT
Martinez would be an interesting one. I think the physical side was a bit of a shock to the system to him when he was here before but he'd be more prepared for it if he returned. And Clotet would be a good manager for him to learn and develop under.
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Post by brassmonkey on Aug 22, 2017 11:15:31 GMT
Marvin emnes for me...
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Post by Long John Silver on Aug 22, 2017 11:16:57 GMT
Martinez would be an interesting one. I think the physical side was a bit of a shock to the system to him when he was here before but he'd be more prepared for it if he returned. And Clotet would be a good manager for him to learn and develop under. I'd rather we got a forward who was decent, than had a decent song.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 22, 2017 11:20:33 GMT
Marvin emnes for me... Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards Out of interest , why ? He scores a goal roughly every 10 games. And in the last 8 years hasn't played more than 20 games in a season
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Post by iambungle on Aug 22, 2017 11:28:00 GMT
Marvin emnes for me... Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards Out of interest , why ? He scores a goal roughly every 10 games. And in the last 8 years hasn't played more than 20 games in a season Because Pep thinks the name is lucky and is insistent that we have at least one player at the club called Marvin? Just a guess, like, not ITK or anything.
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Post by brassmonkey on Aug 22, 2017 11:29:29 GMT
Marvin emnes for me... Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards Out of interest , why ? He scores a goal roughly every 10 games. And in the last 8 years hasn't played more than 20 games in a season Because he is skilful, quick, can hold the ball up and can score from range. Something were missing with wes. All his football has been in higher divisions than league 1. Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 22, 2017 11:32:52 GMT
Out of interest , why ? He scores a goal roughly every 10 games. And in the last 8 years hasn't played more than 20 games in a season Because he is skilful, quick, can hold the ball up and can score from range. Something were missing with wes. All his football has been in higher divisions than league 1. Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards Fair enough, for me I'd want a bit more of a proven track record. Someone like steve Morrison
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Aug 22, 2017 11:38:03 GMT
Louis Moult for me. Young(ish) 24 I believe. Strong but also pacey, scored a a lot of goals in Scotland and also the lower divisions. He also fits our business model perfectly and wouldn't be too expensive I don't think give that he has said e won't sign a new contract
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Post by socrates on Aug 22, 2017 11:41:21 GMT
I think it's time for a statement of intent to the players that we are serious
A lot of money has come into the building. And soon a boatload will come for Marv
We have supposedly increased the playing budget by 20 pc as well, despite very little evidence of signings in accordance with that
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Post by newtonyellow on Aug 22, 2017 11:44:45 GMT
Louis Moult for me. Young(ish) 24 I believe. Strong but also pacey, scored a a lot of goals in Scotland and also the lower divisions. He also fits our business model perfectly and wouldn't be too expensive I don't think give that he has said e won't sign a new contract Believe Motherwell tried to buy out the sell on clause Wrexham have on Moult a few weeks ago. Wrexham refused and the move broke down. Maybe an increased offer by us would satisfy all 3 clubs?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Aug 22, 2017 11:52:40 GMT
What Mansfield fans seem tlike be saying,
Told you guys, great signing for league two would back him for top goal scorer.
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 22, 2017 12:01:11 GMT
Looks very much like a wage release to me. I suspect Pep was told he couldn't take in a player until the wage bill went down. Guesswork naturally, but I sense an incoming player. Agree. After Ivo was injured Pep indicated that he would have to make do with the current group off players at his disposal. I suspect we've maxed out our budget on wages. So definitely expect to see another player come in to replace Hemings and another to replace Johnson, but would be very surprised to see any others. Personally I'd like to see two versatile players, one who can play anywhere across the forward line, and another who is comfortable in the defensive midfield/central defender position (a more experienced version of Carroll)
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Aug 22, 2017 12:08:16 GMT
Louis Moult for me. Young(ish) 24 I believe. Strong but also pacey, scored a a lot of goals in Scotland and also the lower divisions. He also fits our business model perfectly and wouldn't be too expensive I don't think give that he has said e won't sign a new contract Believe Motherwell tried to buy out the sell on clause Wrexham have on Moult a few weeks ago. Wrexham refused and the move broke down. Maybe an increased offer by us would satisfy all 3 clubs? Not surprised, there's a Wrexham fan in work and he is under the impression that they have a 25% sell on clause.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 22, 2017 12:23:28 GMT
The beginning of the end for Kane then, bringing the curatin down on a bizarre stay. Never understood why we signed him. Let alone paid that amount for him. He was rarely played in his favoured position. Off the shoulder of the big man. As I understand it, it was a panic signing and was a regret of the recruitment ept. Still, can't get it all right. Mapp's decision to play him on his own up top just compounded the problem. And under Pep's there's no room for him, either. he can't play the No 10 role. And he can't play the 1 up ahead. So adios. If he plays as the poacher, feeding off crosses and knockdowns for a brute he will score a load of goals at that level. Then we can sting Mansfield for our money back. No loss He was obviously a panic buy when the Matty Taylor deal fell through. I personally think we're light in numbers in various positions across the squad, so if Johnson goes I think we need 3 or 4 players in.
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Post by Common Villager on Aug 22, 2017 12:24:10 GMT
Going into this season he was a third choice striker. If we can bring in someone better than him then I have no problem with him leaving. He just didn't cut it at League 1 standard.
That said, are we really in a position where we're having to execute a one in, one out policy? Are the players we've brought in really on that much?
If MJ follows Hemmings out of the door, I would like to see 2/3 real signings that show intent, not just PL loans. Not convinced about Emnes either.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 22, 2017 12:25:27 GMT
I think it's time for a statement of intent to the players that we are serious A lot of money has come into the building. And soon a boatload will come for Marv We have supposedly increased the playing budget by 20 pc as well, despite very little evidence of signings in accordance with that Too true. Just hope that Eales isn't just maximises his investment before jumping ship!
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 22, 2017 12:28:09 GMT
Oliver Mcburnie, season long loan from Swansea?
Highly thought of, plus the Swansea (Pep) connection.
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Post by uptheus on Aug 22, 2017 12:31:05 GMT
Looks very much like a wage release to me. I suspect Pep was told he couldn't take in a player until the wage bill went down. Guesswork naturally, but I sense an incoming player. Agree. After Ivo was injured Pep indicated that he would have to make do with the current group off players at his disposal. I suspect we've maxed out our budget on wages. So definitely expect to see another player come in to replace Hemings and another to replace Johnson, but would be very surprised to see any others. Personally I'd like to see two versatile players, one who can play anywhere across the forward line, and another who is comfortable in the defensive midfield/central defender position (a more experienced version of Carroll) I'd like to know where we've maxed out our budget? We've lost McAleny, Maguire, Scarz, Lundstrum, Sercombe, Edwards, Dunkley and possibly Johnson's on his way out, so with what we've brought in I struggle to see the increase! Add to that the monies we've received and it looks more like selling assets to maximise returns to me. The next week or so will be very telling to me in what direction the club really want to go in.
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Post by littlemore on Aug 22, 2017 12:40:15 GMT
Oliver Mcburnie, season long loan from Swansea? Highly thought of, plus the Swansea (Pep) connection. Would love him but currently he's being included on their bench as they are short of fit strikers. Maybe a possibility if they spend some of the money they've just got for Sigurdsson. He will probably score a couple tonight against MK Dons.
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Post by Yellow River on Aug 22, 2017 12:47:02 GMT
Agree. After Ivo was injured Pep indicated that he would have to make do with the current group off players at his disposal. I suspect we've maxed out our budget on wages. So definitely expect to see another player come in to replace Hemings and another to replace Johnson, but would be very surprised to see any others. Personally I'd like to see two versatile players, one who can play anywhere across the forward line, and another who is comfortable in the defensive midfield/central defender position (a more experienced version of Carroll) I'd like to know where we've maxed out our budget? We've lost McAleny, Maguire, Scarz, Lundstrum, Sercombe, Edwards, Dunkley and possibly Johnson's on his way out, so with what we've brought in I struggle to see the increase! Add to that the monies we've received and it looks more like selling assets to maximise returns to me. The next week or so will be very telling to me in what direction the club really want to go in. I make that 7 players you've listed plus Johnson going out. Incoming:- Williamson, Henry, Payne, Tiendalli, Pekalski, Ricardinho, Xemi, Obika, Van Kessler, that's 9 players plus Kelleher, 10 in total so far. That indicates to me that we've increased our wage budget
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Post by socrates on Aug 22, 2017 12:58:20 GMT
I'd like to know where we've maxed out our budget? We've lost McAleny, Maguire, Scarz, Lundstrum, Sercombe, Edwards, Dunkley and possibly Johnson's on his way out, so with what we've brought in I struggle to see the increase! Add to that the monies we've received and it looks more like selling assets to maximise returns to me. The next week or so will be very telling to me in what direction the club really want to go in. I make that 7 players you've listed plus Johnson going out. Incoming:- Williamson, Henry, Payne, Tiendalli, Pekalski, Ricardinho, Xemi, Obika, Van Kessler, that's 9 players plus Kelleher, 10 in total so far. That indicates to me that we've increased our wage budget Not to me it doesn't. Tiendalli Ricardinho Xemi GVK should (and I stress that word because it is entuirely possible agents have shafted us) be cheap wahes-wise. They're either injured or come from a standard far below League 1. Obika is about a bog-standard mid-table budget signing as possible. Lundstram would have been a decent earner. Maguire would have possibly been our biggest and McAleny certainly was on a big old wedge at Everton. Payne, Henry and WIlliamson are not cheap, though, of course. I cannot currently see where a 20 pc increase is coming from with 8 (possibly 9 with Johnson) exits
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Post by onlyme on Aug 22, 2017 13:09:24 GMT
I make that 7 players you've listed plus Johnson going out. Incoming:- Williamson, Henry, Payne, Tiendalli, Pekalski, Ricardinho, Xemi, Obika, Van Kessler, that's 9 players plus Kelleher, 10 in total so far. That indicates to me that we've increased our wage budget Not to me it doesn't. Tiendalli Ricardinho Xemi GVK should (and I stress that word because it is entuirely possible agents have shafted us) be cheap wahes-wise. They're either injured or come from a standard far below League 1. Obika is about a bog-standard mid-table budget signing as possible. Lundstram would have been a decent earner. Maguire would have possibly been our biggest and McAleny certainly was on a big old wedge at Everton. Payne, Henry and WIlliamson are not cheap, though, of course. I cannot currently see where a 20 pc increase is coming from with 8 (possibly 9 with Johnson) exits When the accounts come out a few years from now we'll know. I believe our owner. Money may still be there to spend. Window still open. How do you know what these players you mention are being paid. You are just guessing.
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 22, 2017 13:12:08 GMT
Seriously if we're having to let hemmings to go to free up a wage then we are fucked. No way are we anywhere near our budget from last season let alone 20% extra from additional season ticket hikes and all this profitable income we are keep being told about. Got to be that we're playing 1 up top so don't feel the need to have 4 , 5 if u count strikers on the books
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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 22, 2017 13:19:26 GMT
I make that 7 players you've listed plus Johnson going out. Incoming:- Williamson, Henry, Payne, Tiendalli, Pekalski, Ricardinho, Xemi, Obika, Van Kessler, that's 9 players plus Kelleher, 10 in total so far. That indicates to me that we've increased our wage budget Not to me it doesn't. Tiendalli Ricardinho Xemi GVK should (and I stress that word because it is entuirely possible agents have shafted us) be cheap wahes-wise. They're either injured or come from a standard far below League 1. Obika is about a bog-standard mid-table budget signing as possible. Lundstram would have been a decent earner. Maguire would have possibly been our biggest and McAleny certainly was on a big old wedge at Everton. Payne, Henry and WIlliamson are not cheap, though, of course. I cannot currently see where a 20 pc increase is coming from with 8 (possibly 9 with Johnson) exits I bet GvK or Ricardinho won't be cheap wages wise. Xemi and Tiendalli you may be right.
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Post by socrates on Aug 22, 2017 13:24:07 GMT
Not to me it doesn't. Tiendalli Ricardinho Xemi GVK should (and I stress that word because it is entuirely possible agents have shafted us) be cheap wahes-wise. They're either injured or come from a standard far below League 1. Obika is about a bog-standard mid-table budget signing as possible. Lundstram would have been a decent earner. Maguire would have possibly been our biggest and McAleny certainly was on a big old wedge at Everton. Payne, Henry and WIlliamson are not cheap, though, of course. I cannot currently see where a 20 pc increase is coming from with 8 (possibly 9 with Johnson) exits When the accounts come out a few years from now we'll know. I believe our owner. Money may still be there to spend. Window still open. How do you know what these players you mention are being paid. You are just guessing. The Azerbaijan League, the Czech League are not well-paid leagues. Tiendalli has not played for a year. Xemi has only ever played for Barelona's third team. That is not a high standard of football. Now we may well be paying them decent money. But we sure as hell shouldn't be.
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Post by foley on Aug 22, 2017 13:33:26 GMT
Seriously if we're having to let hemmings to go to free up a wage then we are fucked. No way are we anywhere near our budget from last season let alone 20% extra from additional season ticket hikes and all this profitable income we are keep being told about. Got to be that we're playing 1 up top so don't feel the need to have 4 , 5 if u count strikers on the books DE has said that last season's budget was £2.8M and this years is now over £3M (this may change with MJ/ KH). This information is all in the Oxvox notes to the meeting and recent public comments I believe.
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