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Post by Marked Ox on Aug 31, 2017 19:15:48 GMT
While his method of leaving is disappointing, I wish him well.
He made an impact last season, has given the club an excellent profit, his performances in the Abomination Trophy, along with Hemmings goals, probably mostly paid for both the original transfer fees through the prize money and importantly, he was a player who was entertaining and got you off your seat.
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Post by thehorse on Aug 31, 2017 19:28:54 GMT
Given that we signed him in similar circumstances to the way this move has come about we can't complain, most of us had no issue with his lack of professionalism when it worked in our favour so I think it's unfair to mention it now it's gone the other way.
Forgetting all that, I think we've got a good deal, in fact everyone involved can probably walk away from the deal happy.
We got more than he is worth, boro get their player and he's gets a pay rise.
It would have been nice had he stayed and put in good performances but based on what we've seen this season these were likely to be sporadic, even more so if he was to play left back.
A good player no doubt but not irreplaceable.
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Post by barmyarmy on Aug 31, 2017 21:45:08 GMT
2.5 or 3 million is a great deal for us and Marvin. I rated him highly, a footballers career is short and I dont blame him for cashing in given the chance, as has been stated above we didnt care when he did to Motherwell what he has done to us. He is lightning quick, can beat a player with ease (should do it far more often than he did), has a fantastic cross and ferocious shot. He was inconsistent but wide players are, there are many posters lining up to make excuses for Hemmings not being used right (but not saying how he should) but appear to ignore that our left winger played left back, centre forward and number 10 for half? the games he played for us.
Well done to MAPP, DE and the recruitment team on this one.
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Johnson
Aug 31, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
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Post by Common Villager on Aug 31, 2017 21:50:41 GMT
Did he ever actually refuse to play for Motherwell?
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Post by dabigfella on Aug 31, 2017 21:57:17 GMT
He gone. We've got the money. We've spent some of it. Close this one and move on.
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Post by MJB on Aug 31, 2017 22:00:07 GMT
What's the obsession with closing threads. If people still want to make comments on Johnson, that's fine.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Aug 31, 2017 22:07:21 GMT
What's the obsession with closing threads. If people still want to make comments on Johnson, that's fine. You should be banned.
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Post by taffyewe on Sept 1, 2017 0:00:34 GMT
What's the obsession with closing threads. If people still want to make comments on Johnson, that's fine. You should be banned. WE SHOULD ALL BE BANNED....ITS LATE, GOODNIGHT!
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Post by londonroader on Sept 1, 2017 6:43:10 GMT
Is this type of stroppy behavior only exclusive to our ex wingers..
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Post by foley on Sept 1, 2017 8:16:40 GMT
Incidently where are those fans who just wanted shot of Johnson to Hull for the paltry offer that they came in with. Glad you are not in any financial control of my business or OUFC. Out of curiosity do any of you have a nice car that you are looking to sell? I can put an offer in! That's a fair point. Whatever you say about DE he has appears to have negotiated very good deals on a number of players that we have sold (Kemar, COD, Sercombe, Lundstrom and now Johnson). It is good to not be in the position where we have had to sell players for low fees as we were so short of cash which used to happen at times.
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Post by horseman on Sept 1, 2017 8:22:23 GMT
obviously we will never know but i bet he would still have pushed for a move had we been promoted so desire to play in the championship doesn't wash with this poster!
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Johnson
Sept 1, 2017 18:09:08 GMT
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Sept 1, 2017 18:09:08 GMT
Wanting to play in the Championship is the perfect get out. If we'd been promoted he still would have wanted to go; if a club in L1 had offered him what he's on at Boro he would have wanted to go. It's always and only ever about wages.
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Post by Mark on Sept 1, 2017 18:47:21 GMT
Also that the club can stick out for a rumoured £2.5 million less 25% when initial bids were around £1 million.
Must be tricky trying to value the club when player valuations vary so much.
I wonder if there are rules to prevent or allow future player sales into an earn-out when selling a football club?
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Post by diagocostapacket on Sept 1, 2017 22:09:35 GMT
Do we we assume that he didn't really want to be here? Lazy fucker couldn't even be bothered to give 110% 100% is enough. 110 per cent is actually 110 out of 200 per cent or 110/200 x 100 so 55% in real terms... so put it simply he couldnt be bothered to give 100% by a margin of 45%.
Our investment however has increased by about 260 % that's in fact 4.72 % increase for every 1% of effort expended.
He's actually earned us a bloody good return with his efforts in percentage terms.
I never saw him as being Lazy in the games he played...woefully out of his comfort zone at LB but to be honest he was dicked about by Pepto Bismol if the truth be told.
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Post by neville60 on Sept 2, 2017 3:24:59 GMT
Lack of effort from all the fans who didn't attend too but we don't have the pitchforks out for them Bit of a difference in choosing not to pay to attend a football game than not putting any effort in to your well paid job isn't there? Personally I can't get that wound up about Johnson leaving, he has only been here a year and played about 40 games, in different positions and with varying success. Their is a good player in their, we saw flashes of that, but he won't go down as a great player for us, just a good bit of transfer business. there,there. 😊
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Post by Mark on Sept 6, 2017 16:51:15 GMT
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 6, 2017 20:49:23 GMT
Maybe they got nearer the 10% that MAPP said it was?
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Johnson
Sept 6, 2017 21:39:06 GMT
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Post by sideoftheleft on Sept 6, 2017 21:39:06 GMT
Maybe he didn't make all the appearances he had panned to make at oxford
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Johnson
Sept 7, 2017 5:47:59 GMT
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Post by ox4eva on Sept 7, 2017 5:47:59 GMT
What did we actually get for him, was it £2.5 million plus add ons ?
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Post by dabigfella on Sept 7, 2017 7:56:37 GMT
What did we actually get for him, was it £2.5 million plus add ons ? The actual fee hasn't been officially stated. It's all rumour and speculation. Rumour has it was £2.5M plus another $0.5M add ons. Rumour also has it that there was a 25% sell on fee as well, though Eeles said it was 10%! Make what you will from that.
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 7, 2017 9:38:23 GMT
What did we actually get for him, was it £2.5 million plus add ons ? The actual fee hasn't been officially stated. It's all rumour and speculation. Rumour has it was £2.5M plus another $0.5M add ons. Rumour also has it that there was a 25% sell on fee as well, though Eeles said it was 10%! Make what you will from that. The rumour on the sell on clause was Motherwell's wasn't it? I'd go with the 10% but they were never going to get £750k anyway even with 25% so crap Journalism. They might get towards it overall with 10% if added on to the suggested £400k original fee. I assume we have got a sell on clause ourselves. Remiss if we haven't.
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Post by Mark on Sept 7, 2017 10:11:59 GMT
25% of £3million would give the £750K that Motherwell say they didn't get. But it sounds like the Motherwell sell-on is between 10 and 25%, and the fee was rumoured to be about £2.5Million. So their cut could be between 250K and 625K.
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 7, 2017 10:44:25 GMT
25% of £3million would give the £750K that Motherwell say they didn't get. But it sounds like the Motherwell sell-on is between 10 and 25%, and the fee was rumoured to be about £2.5Million. So their cut could be between 250K and 625K. I would imagine whatever we've already paid to Motherwell would also come off the the total so if suggested figures are believed and no other clauses have been paid by OUFC then it would be £2.1m so £210k to £525k. I'd still take MApp's figure of 10% which Motherwell's comments somewhat back up. Edit: Taking 25% of £3m still looks crap journalism.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 7, 2017 12:22:38 GMT
But those journalists were ever so insistent that they were right!
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Post by Mark on Sept 7, 2017 14:20:43 GMT
Someone closer to the world of football transfers will probably know, but generally it is reported that sell-on clauses are absolute, so a percentage of the transfer fee, rather than a percentage of the profit. So if the sell on is 10%, Motherwell would get £100K for a £1million transfer by us. If we later get further fees due to appearances, international, then Motherwell would presumably get their cut of that as well.
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 7, 2017 18:33:19 GMT
Someone closer to the world of football transfers will probably know, but generally it is reported that sell-on clauses are absolute, so a percentage of the transfer fee, rather than a percentage of the profit. So if the sell on is 10%, Motherwell would get £100K for a £1million transfer by us. If we later get further fees due to appearances, international, then Motherwell would presumably get their cut of that as well. I've seen plenty of transfers where the sell on clause is based on profit. It would be pretty remiss of DE, for example, if Marv had been a failure and we sold him for £200k then our loss would be extended by anywhere between £20k and £50k with your version of the sell on clause. Considering how savvy DE has been with transfers and the finances I can't see him putting the club in that position.
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Johnson
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Post by backonthecoupon on Sept 13, 2017 13:02:44 GMT
Scored on debut and got Lansbury sent off at Villa
Hes still rubbish though
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Post by oxfordboy on Oct 18, 2017 21:40:17 GMT
Boro fans not quite so happy with him at the moment, think he's a lower end Championship player, not many players who leave here who I want to see fail but he's certainly one of them
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 18, 2017 22:04:24 GMT
That's Marv. Start off strong, begin to wilt and eventually settle into a pattern of one great game followed by three or four average and ineffective ones. But he'll get away with it because "he's clearly got ability" and "bloody hell he can't half motor when he gets going" etc. He will never be consistent - he doesn't have the mentality and temperament for that.
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 19, 2017 6:25:53 GMT
Is it bad that I'd forgotten about Marv?
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