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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 31, 2017 11:11:14 GMT
I'm sticking with 10%. Appleton said it was 10% sitting next to Eales and Eales didn't disagree. Eales allegedly suggested he 'couldn't remember' at which time MAPP said 10% (that was from a report I read- not sure how true it is) That's pretty much it, eales said he wasn't sure, to which mapp stepped in and said it's small, very small, 10% I believe. Darryl nodded along. It was the last Facebook live fans forum
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Post by littlemore on Aug 31, 2017 11:13:47 GMT
I'm sticking with 10%. Appleton said it was 10% sitting next to Eales and Eales didn't disagree. Eales allegedly suggested he 'couldn't remember' at which time MAPP said 10% (that was from a report I read- not sure how true it is) Yeah at first Eales said that, then said it was a small sell on and then Appleton said 10%. I trust Appleton at the time to know what was agreed so anything reporting 25% in my opinion is not true unless Eales now comes out and confirms that. That would then make me question why we would answer a question with a figure if not 100% sure.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Aug 31, 2017 11:24:58 GMT
Eales allegedly suggested he 'couldn't remember' at which time MAPP said 10% (that was from a report I read- not sure how true it is) That's pretty much it, eales said he wasn't sure, to which mapp stepped in and said it's small, very small, 10% I believe. Darryl nodded along. It was the last Facebook live fans forum Am I the only one who finds it odd that he could not remember (if true), given both the fact he is the owner of the cluband his employment history in banking.
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Post by bunk on Aug 31, 2017 11:25:26 GMT
Eales allegedly suggested he 'couldn't remember' at which time MAPP said 10% (that was from a report I read- not sure how true it is) That's pretty much it, eales said he wasn't sure, to which mapp stepped in and said it's small, very small, 10% I believe. Darryl nodded along. It was the last Facebook live fans forum I'll throw this out there. At the time Johnson signed Appleton also said that in order to get him he had to offer a "creative" package to Motherwell and that there were "all sorts of things" in the contract and that there were certain bits that "had" to be met. Johnson signed a 3 year deal, he's left after a season. Is it not possible that the 10% was the sell on assuming all the add ons had been met and full fee paid while Motherwell, knowing that there was no chance he'd stick around, asked for a higher % if he left earlier/before the add ons had been met. www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/SPORT/14715643.Marvin_Johnson_impressed_with_Oxford_United_s_determination_to_do_deal/?commentSort=score
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 31, 2017 11:27:36 GMT
That's pretty much it, eales said he wasn't sure, to which mapp stepped in and said it's small, very small, 10% I believe. Darryl nodded along. It was the last Facebook live fans forum I'll throw this out there. At the time Johnson signed Appleton also said that in order to get him he had to offer a "creative" package to Motherwell and that there were "all sorts of things" in the contract and that there were certain bits that "had" to be met. Johnson signed a 3 year deal, he's left after a season. Is it not possible that the 10% was the sell on assuming all the add ons had been met and full fee paid while Motherwell, knowing that there was no chance he'd stick around, asked for a higher % if he left earlier/before the add ons had been met. www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/SPORT/14715643.Marvin_Johnson_impressed_with_Oxford_United_s_determination_to_do_deal/?commentSort=scorePossible, but complete guess work. Like saying it could be possible it's 25% if he joins a team begging with m😉. No one knows, just going on what we were told by our then manager and owner, I'd suggest they probably know more than the sun or Middlesbrough echo
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Post by oufcyellows on Aug 31, 2017 11:28:42 GMT
That's pretty much it, eales said he wasn't sure, to which mapp stepped in and said it's small, very small, 10% I believe. Darryl nodded along. It was the last Facebook live fans forum Am I the only one who finds it odd that he could not remember (if true), given both the fact he is the owner of the cluband his employment history in banking. Seems to work for Diane Abbott
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Post by Gary Baldi on Aug 31, 2017 12:23:06 GMT
I'd assume the 25% is based on promotion to Championship, etc. Hence the differing figures reported
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Post by ttg17 on Aug 31, 2017 13:46:37 GMT
Finally gone
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Post by eighteen93 on Aug 31, 2017 13:47:59 GMT
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Post by cornishox on Aug 31, 2017 13:49:45 GMT
Can't say I'll miss him. Especially after the nature of the exit. Having said that im glad it's over with, thanks for the big profit and good luck to you MJ
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Post by highlights on Aug 31, 2017 13:57:45 GMT
That statement is football code for, 'Johnson's behaviour means has burned his bridges with the club, and has refused to train or play properly, and for the sake of morale had to go. This isn't the fault of Boro.'
I have seen many such statements before - one for a player who refused to run in any training sessions the week before he was sold, to make a point.
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Post by greatunclekip on Aug 31, 2017 13:58:07 GMT
Left in appalling fashion. Lack of effort.
No good luck from me at all.
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Post by ttg17 on Aug 31, 2017 14:00:29 GMT
/video/1
Cheeky bastard - 'you've gotta treat every game like it's a cup final' - you didn't even treat the cup final like a cup final ya goon!
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Post by foley on Aug 31, 2017 14:02:35 GMT
/video/1 Cheeky bastard - 'you've gotta treat every game like it's a cup final' - you didn't even treat the cup final like a cup final ya goon! That's an absolute joke.
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Post by foley on Aug 31, 2017 14:04:31 GMT
That statement is football code for, 'Johnson's behaviour means has burned his bridges with the club, and has refused to train or play properly, and for the sake of morale had to go. This isn't the fault of Boro.' I have seen many such statements before - one for a player who refused to run in any training sessions the week before he was sold, to make a point. Seriously? Presumably this all gets round the various clubs though? I guess that it appears that Marvin has done something similar twice 'allegedly' and that hasn't stopped Middlesbrough spending all of that money on him though.
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Post by Eaststandboy on Aug 31, 2017 14:07:32 GMT
By the sound of his interview on BoroPlayer, he assumed he would go from Motherwell to a Championship club, not to a L1 club.
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Post by highlights on Aug 31, 2017 14:12:00 GMT
That statement is football code for, 'Johnson's behaviour means has burned his bridges with the club, and has refused to train or play properly, and for the sake of morale had to go. This isn't the fault of Boro.' I have seen many such statements before - one for a player who refused to run in any training sessions the week before he was sold, to make a point. Seriously? Presumably this all gets round the various clubs though? I guess that it appears that Marvin has done something similar twice 'allegedly' and that hasn't stopped Middlesbrough spending all of that money on him though. Yep. Naturally I don't want to get fired, so I can't divulge anymore, but stuff like happens fairly often. Usually the 'done' thing is to play, but not to risk yourself by bottling big tackles. Roofe started doing similar towards the end as I recall. Faking injury/illness is not a classy thing to do, and pisses people off. Buying clubs don't care about the antics, so long as they can perform on the pitch.
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Post by gofish2 on Aug 31, 2017 14:15:21 GMT
I'm completely bored by this saga and frankly couldn't give a toss about Johnson and his 'alleged' attitude. That said, I wish well (ish) and look forward to the club receiving a good chunk for selling him.
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Johnson
Aug 31, 2017 14:22:46 GMT
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Post by cornishox on Aug 31, 2017 14:22:46 GMT
I take back what I said before. f*ck him. Never wanted to be here. Refused to play. What a tosspot. Hope he flops even if we do have a sell on fee.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Aug 31, 2017 14:26:14 GMT
It's an odd one really. Like most wide players he was in and out of games - and he isn't a full back: not at L1 level and certainly not in the Championship. So I don't feel we actually saw the best of him in his preferred position for some of his time with us. When he was playing further forward and was on his game he was sometimes excellent. It will be interesting to see how he gets on - I suspect he will find it quite difficult to achieve any level of consistency. Despite him playing silly buggers over the last few weeks, I wish him well.
The whole saga reinforces my view that the transfer window should close before the season starts.
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Post by Yorkshire Yellow on Aug 31, 2017 14:29:00 GMT
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Post by shosho on Aug 31, 2017 14:31:04 GMT
Do we we assume that he didn't really want to be here?
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Post by berliner on Aug 31, 2017 14:34:01 GMT
Seriously? Presumably this all gets round the various clubs though? I guess that it appears that Marvin has done something similar twice 'allegedly' and that hasn't stopped Middlesbrough spending all of that money on him though. Yep. Naturally I don't want to get fired, so I can't divulge anymore, but stuff like happens fairly often. Usually the 'done' thing is to play, but not to risk yourself by bottling big tackles. Roofe started doing similar towards the end as I recall. Faking injury/illness is not a classy thing to do, and pisses people off. Buying clubs don't care about the antics, so long as they can perform on the pitch. I don't believe that for a single second, Roofe conducted himself immaculately as far as I am aware. Johnson however, who knows, it's clear he saw himself playing at a higher level and who are we to stop him, especially as we got a seven figure profit from him. We'll never know if he was legitimately injured, never know if his performance in the last games was just an off-day, carrying an injury or what. Some of the comments here are a bit embarrassing to be honest. Thanks Marvin for the year in yellow, most talented player we've had on our books for a while, blew hot and cold, drifted in and out. A fair deal for us and all concerned. Now we move on to incoming players. I think a loan from a higher club and that's probably it...don't see the cash being splashed, especially with the sell on and the possibility that the payment for MJ will be made in stages by Boro.
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Post by highlights on Aug 31, 2017 14:37:24 GMT
Yep. Naturally I don't want to get fired, so I can't divulge anymore, but stuff like happens fairly often. Usually the 'done' thing is to play, but not to risk yourself by bottling big tackles. Roofe started doing similar towards the end as I recall. Faking injury/illness is not a classy thing to do, and pisses people off. Buying clubs don't care about the antics, so long as they can perform on the pitch. I don't believe that for a single second, Roofe conducted himself immaculately as far as I am aware. Johnson however, who knows, it's clear he saw himself playing at a higher level and who are we to stop him, especially as we got a seven figure profit from him. We'll never know if he was legitimately injured, never know if his performance in the last games was just an off-day, carrying an injury or what. Some of the comments here are a bit embarrassing to be honest. Thanks Marvin for the year in yellow, most talented player we've had on our books for a while, blew hot and cold, drifted in and out. A fair deal for us and all concerned. Now we move on to incoming players. I think a loan from a higher club and that's probably it...don't see the cash being splashed, especially with the sell on and the possibility that the payment for MJ will be made in stages by Boro. To be fair, that is just my personal recollection, that he wasn't putting himself around like he used to, which at the time I put down to injury/fatigue. But I'm rarely at games so happy to be corrected.
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Johnson
Aug 31, 2017 14:39:17 GMT
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Post by cornishox on Aug 31, 2017 14:39:17 GMT
Why would boro pay in stages? I'm sure they got like a £50 million parachute payment?
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Johnson
Aug 31, 2017 14:48:31 GMT
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Post by Denissmithswig on Aug 31, 2017 14:48:31 GMT
Well this transfer came out of no where! Deadline day is full of surprise...
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Post by berliner on Aug 31, 2017 14:57:11 GMT
Why would boro pay in stages? I'm sure they got like a £50 million parachute payment? They may pay the lot upfront of course, but not that uncommon to split a fee across the length of the contract. We'll only find out when accounts are announced.
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Post by aylesburyrich on Aug 31, 2017 15:11:23 GMT
Engineered a move by refusing to play. Officially worse than O'Dowda
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Aug 31, 2017 15:11:47 GMT
Very good player who will definitely be missed on the pitch, perhaps not consistent enough, but still our best wife player IMO. Good move from a business point of view as well. Decent fee for a player not getting any younger and who didn't want to be here. His exit does leave a bit of a sour taste in the mouth but I hope he does well for Boro, as I imagine we will have a sell on clause and a promotion bonus payment included in the deal.
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Post by Jason N on Aug 31, 2017 15:14:57 GMT
We never saw the best of Johnson. I hope he does well for Boro' and i'll watch his career with interest, as I do all of Oxford's previous departures. He was never going to be with us for long, I just wished he'd shown us a lot more of his ability in the short period he spent with us.
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