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Post by horseman on May 18, 2017 12:56:11 GMT
You likely wouldn't dismiss the rivalry with Reading if you'd had the misfortune to have parked in the jr car park the night it all kicked off there.Me and a mate were soon sussed as the old bill chased them right where we were parked and we would have took a helluva beating until one of them spotted we had a kid with us and told them to leave it as "they've got a kid" always respect them for that.
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Post by MJB on May 18, 2017 13:09:09 GMT
You likely wouldn't dismiss the rivalry with Reading if you'd had the misfortune to have parked in the jr car park the night it all kicked off there.Me and a mate were soon sussed as the old bill chased them right where we were parked and we would have took a helluva beating until one of them spotted we had a kid with us and told them to leave it as "they've got a kid" always respect them for that. Fighting near A&E in a hospital car park near shows a certain level of intelligence I guess!
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Post by oldham on May 18, 2017 13:17:55 GMT
To just disregard Reading as a rival is IMO not having a full understanding of Oxford United history. Yes the clubs have grown apart in terms of Reading going one way and us going the other way but believe me if we were in the same league again you would witness and fierce local derby. You get 'rivalries" with teams like Luton over the years but it wouldn't be classed as a local derby. Reading in my eyes is a local derby and one that I would hate to lose as much as I would hate to lose to Swindon. If they aren't rivals then why do we sing build a bonfire, put the Swindon on the top, you put the Reading in the middle and you burning the f*cking lot. I know they ain't rivals but can we use Wycombe as kindling anyway You've gone and done it now, you mentioned "them" and now they are going to think we are bothered with them đ
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Post by bigronaldo on May 18, 2017 13:34:58 GMT
Wycombe are nothing! They don't even count as much as Northampton in my eyes, and but for wilder, and his brief tenure there they too would barely be classed as kindling. Reading is a proper rival... just because we haven't played them in years people forget. We keep going the way we are going and we'll get to play them before long. We'll see what they are all about then!!
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Post by pottersrightboot on May 18, 2017 21:46:37 GMT
They are rivals. They are plastic johnny come latelies.
They consider they are far too good for us. For years they had crowds of less than 3000.
If they ever fell down the leagues their support would melt like the summer snows.
Disappointed for Fulham the other night.
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Post by egox on May 18, 2017 22:33:40 GMT
They are rivals and always will be. Sustained success over a number of years (about 20 - off and on) has meant their fan base has grown significantly. However, if their form dipped and they dropped to league 1 they would get crowds on a par with us (may be a little higher).
My first experience of the rivalry dates back to an evening Simon cup game (they went on to win the bloody thing!) and remember about 40-50 Oxford lads hanging about outside away end on the corner that lead to readings main terrace stand - I think it was called the Southbank. Even as a 12 year I could tell that something was about to happen when their fansb came down the slight hill towards them. I was away before I saw any trouble but assume it went off. Also vividly remember 1990 game at their place in the league cup. Simmo one nil win. Lively all game with Oxford fans climbing the high fences, stuff being thrown by both sets of fans and a much larger group of Oxford fans waiting in the same place as two years before. Both games had small crowds for a derby but both had brilliant atmospheres. Will always remember them. I imagine some of the older lads on here will remember one or both these games. just don't get those types of atmospheres anymore. Sad really.
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Post by ox4eva on May 19, 2017 5:36:35 GMT
They are rivals and always will be. Sustained success over a number of years (about 20 - off and on) has meant their fan base has grown significantly. However, if their form dipped and they dropped to league 1 they would get crowds on a par with us (may be a little higher). My first experience of the rivalry dates back to an evening Simon cup game (they went on to win the bloody thing!) and remember about 40-50 Oxford lads hanging about outside away end on the corner that lead to readings main terrace stand - I think it was called the Southbank. Even as a 12 year I could tell that something was about to happen when their fansb came down the slight hill towards them. I was away before I saw any trouble but assume it went off. Also vividly remember 1990 game at their place in the league cup. Simmo one nil win. Lively all game with Oxford fans climbing the high fences, stuff being thrown by both sets of fans and a much larger group of Oxford fans waiting in the same place as two years before. Both games had small crowds for a derby but both had brilliant atmospheres. Will always remember them. I imagine some of the older lads on here will remember one or both these games. just don't get those types of atmospheres anymore. Sad really. Yes I remember those days, not sure what year but must have been early 80s at Elm Park when there was disorder all along the Oxford Road before the game and fighting up near the boars head pub on Friar St. Times have changed with more families attending games and our home crowds are more family based the same as everyone else which is fine. But there is still a dislike of each other lurking in the mindset of some of us whether we have played regularly or not!
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Post by oldham on May 19, 2017 6:50:50 GMT
I remember going in the cuckoo lane against them one Saturday years ago (80s). A small group of us from BBL, no more than 7 or 8 of us. The teams came out before the game and the Reading were cheering and we started singing "United", cue total panic until the OB got hold of us and they realised there were only a few of us in there but it was too late then. They were the days when you either got thrown out of the ground or marched round the pitch to the London Road end and put back in with the oxford. It was the latter that day.
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Post by bigronaldo on May 19, 2017 8:24:39 GMT
Must have been the early 80's at Elm Park. We were in behind the goal and their 'end' was to the left. Looking across I could see a couple of lads I knew in their end and, sure enough at some point they all started singing. All of a sudden there was a huge gap as the Reading fans departed. Cue OB and a procession of Oxford fans cheered to the rafters as about 30 Oxford United fans were escorted along in front of us. Happy days!
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Post by barmyarmy on May 19, 2017 10:09:13 GMT
Well I for one f*cking hate Reading, not as much as Swindon but not far behind.
I am outnumbered by their "fans" where I live but come play off final day the place will be deserted as all the plastics trot off to Wembley. One of my best memories of Reading was the day they played Bolton in the play off final at Wembley, were 2-0 up, missed a penalty and lost 3-2. Me and a Pompey supporting mate had grins that went from ear to ear drinking in empty pubs during the day, the grins just got bigger as they all returned from their day out in their replica shirts on moaning like f*ck.
Most of their "fans" support someone else and Reading is a second team. They are ÂŁ78 million in debt, lose at Wembley and I can see our rivalry being renewed very sson.
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Post by eugeneox on May 19, 2017 20:46:33 GMT
As others have said, views on Reading may really depend on which part of Oxfordshire you live. There also seems to be a generation thing. Growing up in South Oxon in the late 80s/early 90s, there were lots of Reading fans at school. Still, this was a time when Reading were always at least one league below us and we never played them that often. So they were an annoyance and I definitely really wanted us to win on the rare occasions we met, but I never really took them too seriously and Swindon seemed like a more reasonable rivalry. I remember well the two-legged league cup tie in 1990 - Simmo scoring at Elm Park and Steve Foster getting a double in the return at the Manor. I missed the Simod Cup match, but do remember seeing a pre-season friendly at Elm Park in around 1989 which Reading won 2-1 with a screaming shot that was the last play of the game. Definitely the most gutted I ever felt after watching a Friendly!
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Post by ox4eva on May 29, 2017 11:09:26 GMT
Good luck to Huddersfield today!
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Post by Colin B on May 29, 2017 11:13:11 GMT
Come on Huddersfield. Proper club, with proper fans.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 11:53:34 GMT
Reading have been up before and gone down. Let's see Huddersfield up see how they do
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 29, 2017 12:37:43 GMT
I hope Huddersfield win and do it easily. Seeing that load of "Reading And..."s losing at Wembley would make me laugh a lot.
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Post by saddletramp on May 29, 2017 13:12:12 GMT
It's all about opinions and everyone has there own view. But to say there is no edge when we play Reading is ridiculous! It's just a long time since we played them regularly but if we did you would see more 'edge' on and off the pitch than against the swine. How many swine games home and away have ever been sell outs? As this is such a huge rivalry that some cling to so they can sing about them. Reality for many U's fans of a certain age is we have the swine and Reading on our hate lists in equal measure. Those who don't get it are our younger fans but maybe they need to learn some more of our history and it does not make you any less of a U's diehard to dislike Reading as well as the swine! I canât have you up for choosing Reading as your main rival. Weâre all entitled to choose. Thereâs probably an Oxford fan out in the masses who detests Scunthorpe for a reason that would seem pointlessly bizarre to the rest of us! However, even with the context of history, I canât get worked up about Reading or bring myself to fabricate a rivalry with them. I think you and I are in agreement that itâs a generational thing and for those who experienced the whole Thames Valley Royals saga it probably would mean something. However, time moves on and other teams enter and exit the rivalry stakes for varying reasons âDagenham & Redbridge in our quest for the BSP title, Luton when they thought they were the dogâs bollocks in the fifth tier, Northampton won the war last season but MApp expertly trolled their victory celebrations with the âbest team in League 2â comment. I wouldnât regard any as a rival now and I file Reading in the same category. The rivalry may raise its head again in the future and actually playing them once in a blue moon would help too. I think the Oxfordshire public know who the main rival is too. The attendances for those two recent memory Reading League Cup matches: 2003-04: 9,870 2004-05: 5,919 Iâll give you a few mitigating circumstances. Atkinsâ side in 2003-04 never drew big crowds, League Cup attendances are always down on League crowds, Rixâs assembled side was dross and the wheels were already starting to fall off (check out the XI he put out that day â zero pace in it), Reading hadnât visited the Kassam prior to 2003-04 so they brought a healthy number that didnât follow the year after. Like all clubs, fans turn up more when the going is good so Oxfordâs numbers were down. However, against Swindon in the Football League Trophy, a lesser cup over the League Cup, weâve still mustered some healthy crowds. 2012-13 was a nothing, absolute waste of a season for Oxford and our highest attendance all season was the 1-0 win over Swindon in the FLT with 7,745. Even overall average attendance stats have attendances against Swindon as higher than those against Reading. I think that shows who the majority of the Oxford faithful regard as our main rival. Reading just isnât the lure it used to be. If attendances are the benchmark. Oxford,Swindon and Reading have only been in the same division 4 times in the last 34 years. Swindons last game at the Manor 2000/2001 league 1, 7,480, Reading at home that season 6,886 1999/2000 league 1 Scum 8,179 Reading 7,638 1998/1999 Championship scum 8,066, Reading 8,103 1996/1997 Championship scum at the Manor 8,147 ,Reading 9,233 4 homes games Total attendances Swindon 31,872, Reading 31,860 The 9,233 crowd For Reading was over a 1,000 more than any of the scum games. So to say "I think that shows who the majority of the Oxford faithful regard as our main rival" Was not true in the past. It is now,because anyone under the age of 18 has never seen us play Reading in the league,anyone under their mid 30s has has never seen them play as an adult. P.S. The last 10,000+ crowd at the Manor against the scum 1971,Gerry summers was the manager,before my time,so i never saw a 5 figure crowd at the Manor against the scum. I saw Oxford beat Barnsley at the Manor in division 2 in front of 13,196 ! So despite the scum being our biggest rivals,attendance wise they weren't. f*ck Reading,come on Huddersfield.
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Post by Belgian Yellow on May 29, 2017 13:55:03 GMT
I canât have you up for choosing Reading as your main rival. Weâre all entitled to choose. Thereâs probably an Oxford fan out in the masses who detests Scunthorpe for a reason that would seem pointlessly bizarre to the rest of us! However, even with the context of history, I canât get worked up about Reading or bring myself to fabricate a rivalry with them. I think you and I are in agreement that itâs a generational thing and for those who experienced the whole Thames Valley Royals saga it probably would mean something. However, time moves on and other teams enter and exit the rivalry stakes for varying reasons âDagenham & Redbridge in our quest for the BSP title, Luton when they thought they were the dogâs bollocks in the fifth tier, Northampton won the war last season but MApp expertly trolled their victory celebrations with the âbest team in League 2â comment. I wouldnât regard any as a rival now and I file Reading in the same category. The rivalry may raise its head again in the future and actually playing them once in a blue moon would help too. I think the Oxfordshire public know who the main rival is too. The attendances for those two recent memory Reading League Cup matches: 2003-04: 9,870 2004-05: 5,919 Iâll give you a few mitigating circumstances. Atkinsâ side in 2003-04 never drew big crowds, League Cup attendances are always down on League crowds, Rixâs assembled side was dross and the wheels were already starting to fall off (check out the XI he put out that day â zero pace in it), Reading hadnât visited the Kassam prior to 2003-04 so they brought a healthy number that didnât follow the year after. Like all clubs, fans turn up more when the going is good so Oxfordâs numbers were down. However, against Swindon in the Football League Trophy, a lesser cup over the League Cup, weâve still mustered some healthy crowds. 2012-13 was a nothing, absolute waste of a season for Oxford and our highest attendance all season was the 1-0 win over Swindon in the FLT with 7,745. Even overall average attendance stats have attendances against Swindon as higher than those against Reading. I think that shows who the majority of the Oxford faithful regard as our main rival. Reading just isnât the lure it used to be. If attendances are the benchmark. Oxford,Swindon and Reading have only been in the same division 4 times in the last 34 years. Swindons last game at the Manor 2000/2001 league 1, 7,480, Reading at home that season 6,886 1999/2000 league 1 Scum 8,179 Reading 7,638 1998/1999 Championship scum 8,066, Reading 8,103 1996/1997 Championship scum at the Manor 8,147 ,Reading 9,233 4 homes games Total attendances Swindon 31,872, Reading 31,860 The 9,233 crowd For Reading was over a 1,000 more than any of the scum games. So to say "I think that shows who the majority of the Oxford faithful regard as our main rival" Was not true in the past. It is now,because anyone under the age of 18 has never seen us play Reading in the league,anyone under their mid 30s has has never seen them play as an adult. P.S. The last 10,000+ crowd at the Manor against the scum 1971,Gerry summers was the manager,before my time,so i never saw a 5 figure crowd at the Manor against the scum. I saw Oxford beat Barnsley at the Manor in division 2 in front of 13,196 ! So despite the scum being our biggest rivals,attendance wise they weren't. f*ck Reading,come on Huddersfield. To be fair, that's probably because Swindon are too cowardly to travel. reading did always bring more than them and put up more of a fight.
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Post by holdsteady on May 29, 2017 15:00:31 GMT
Poor first half, I can't see either of these teams staying up if the win. Reading look the poorer of the two.
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Post by headingtonutd on May 29, 2017 15:42:46 GMT
Is it me or are there quite a few empty seats dotted around? Corporate nonsense or not a sell out?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 15:54:15 GMT
I'd love to see the Terriers score in the 98th minute.
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Post by didcotox on May 29, 2017 16:13:53 GMT
Is it me or are there quite a few empty seats dotted around? Corporate nonsense or not a sell out? Thought it was a good attendance myself
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Post by holdsteady on May 29, 2017 16:15:58 GMT
Deffo not a sellout, but those who stayed away ain't missed much.
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Post by didcotox on May 29, 2017 16:38:24 GMT
It has been an awful game
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Post by bigfella72 on May 29, 2017 16:41:15 GMT
Always looked like it tbh! Both teams with poor GD for top 6 sides. Didn't score more than 1.5 gpg and the two games against each other were both 1-0! Yawn fest all day long.
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Post by oxfordyid on May 29, 2017 16:43:46 GMT
Couldn't be a better way for the scummy plastics to lose
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Post by joey on May 29, 2017 16:52:29 GMT
Lol
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Post by makv on May 29, 2017 16:52:35 GMT
Hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah hah
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Post by ox4eva on May 29, 2017 16:53:47 GMT
Yes!!!!!!!
Happy days!
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Post by sideshowrob on May 29, 2017 16:54:36 GMT
FANTASTIC - WELL DONE HUDDERSFIELD!!!
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Post by grenobleroad on May 29, 2017 16:54:37 GMT
Boooooom!!!!!
That made me feel better then when Dagenham, Wycombe or Luton lose so I know where my hatred lies.
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