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Post by sussox on Dec 10, 2016 17:28:52 GMT
Please can one of you tell us?
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Post by lucabrasi on Dec 10, 2016 17:36:09 GMT
Just on the bus home buddy. Will explain it all in a jiffy.
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Post by sarge on Dec 10, 2016 17:50:35 GMT
since the incompetant who is 'stadium safety officer' has been appointed, countless oufc stewards have resigned as stewards, hence clueless & confrontational agency stewards bullying home fans.
today a prime example why BOX TURNBULL needs to dispense with the incompatants services immeditely .... BULLYS should not be employed in any capacity by OUFC
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Post by makv on Dec 10, 2016 17:58:08 GMT
As just explained on the radio, it was a protest against stewards who threatened to have the whole of them ejected for waving a flag. They took the banners down themselves and retired to the Blackbird.
The club needs to address this pretty quickly, I would say.
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Post by backonthecoupon on Dec 10, 2016 18:31:36 GMT
Don't blame them either.
The club ask the fans how to improve the match day atmosphere and this new safety officer is rapidly undoing everything the fans have built up.
Club need to sort it or it will get messy quick.
I am assuming the safety team are contracted by the club and not firoka. If it's firoka then it's a whole different game that's being played.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Dec 10, 2016 18:38:59 GMT
I don't believe either side has the moral high ground - perhaps issues that have been bubbling under the surface came to a head today? Are the big flags allowed to be waved in games? Rad Ox seemed to think they weren't and that was the issue
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Post by makv on Dec 10, 2016 18:43:32 GMT
I don't believe either side has the moral high ground - perhaps issues that have been bubbling under the surface came to a head today? Are the big flags allowed to be waved in games? Rad Ox seemed to think they weren't and that was the issue Apparently before the game and after goals.
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Post by sarge on Dec 10, 2016 18:47:41 GMT
I don't believe either side has the moral high ground - perhaps issues that have been bubbling under the surface came to a head today? Are the big flags allowed to be waved in games? Rad Ox seemed to think they weren't and that was the issue No issues to speak of under the old safety officer...since the recent appointee has been in the job many OUFC stewards have left, now we get clueless thugs n bullys in dayglo, aka agency stewards.... current safety officer along with his AGENCY stewards are occupying areas lower than whale shit I reckon! Oldhams away support WERE allowed to wave huge flags pretty much all game... seems the recently appointed chief safety officer has something of a vindictive agenda to me!!!
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Post by behindthegoal on Dec 10, 2016 18:50:25 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" I was amongst them...it didn't bother me as I was at the front of them although I got flicked by it a couple of times....there was a scuffle with a couple,I don't know what that was about.
No....rules are rules.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 18:51:40 GMT
Can't see why it was a problem, how was todays match different from any other home match? In my view, if someone objects that a flag is blocking their view it should come down, but otherwise where's the harm? What's safety got to do with it?
Seems to me that we've suddenly got a lot of petty minded jobsworths on the stewarding team, and if so then the sooner we get shot of them , the better.
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Post by sarge on Dec 10, 2016 18:52:46 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" No....rules are rules. except for the Oldham away support of course where those rules it seems are not rules, nor were they applied
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Post by yuriyeller on Dec 10, 2016 18:53:36 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" No....rules are rules. Are you a diplomat?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Dec 10, 2016 18:54:18 GMT
I don't believe either side has the moral high ground - perhaps issues that have been bubbling under the surface came to a head today? Are the big flags allowed to be waved in games? Rad Ox seemed to think they weren't and that was the issue No issues to speak of under the old safety officer...since the recent appointee has been in the job many OUFC stewards have left, now we get clueless thugs n bullys in dayglo, aka agency stewards.... current safety officer along with his AGENCY stewards are occupying areas lower than whale shit I reckon! Perhaps the issue is the old Safety Officer not enforcing the rules? I don't know that though. Obviously, a new person will want to take control where they perceive an issue and put their control down. Not backing either side in this as I found it all a little embarrassing for everyone. Kids playground and all that. I have no doubt some Stewards acted up in bad way, so cannot back them at all. But some of our fans are hardly angels are they? I think the worse of both sides was seen today.
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Post by behindthegoal on Dec 10, 2016 18:56:23 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" No....rules are rules. except for the Oldham away support of course where those rules it seems are not rules, nor were they applied Yes...that should have been sorted, don't make it right though.
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Post by Junior on Dec 10, 2016 18:57:31 GMT
Can't see why it was a problem, how was todays match different from any other home match? In my view, if someone objects that a flag is blocking their view it should come down, but otherwise where's the harm? What's safety got to do with it? Seems to me that we've suddenly got a lot of petty minded jobsworths on the stewarding team, and if so then the sooner we get shot of them , the better. And led by a bloke who doesn't give one about the fans. All contracted in I add. Some have also been used from Wycombe.
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Post by grenobleroad on Dec 10, 2016 18:57:54 GMT
They were pretty bad in the north stand too today.
Making issues with people standing in the gangways at the end of the game.
Lads it's a football match not a Saturday night in town where you can abuse your minuscule power to act the big I am.
F**k off back to your nightclubs banning lads coming in who you don't like the look of.
Get these clowns away from our match day.
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Post by Junior on Dec 10, 2016 18:58:10 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" I was amongst them...it didn't bother me as I was at the front of them although I got flicked by it a couple of times....there was a scuffle with a couple,I don't know what that was about. No....rules are rules. When was this decided and by whom?
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Post by behindthegoal on Dec 10, 2016 19:00:52 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" I was amongst them...it didn't bother me as I was at the front of them although I got flicked by it a couple of times....there was a scuffle with a couple,I don't know what that was about. No....rules are rules. When was this decided and by whom? You didn't know about it???
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Post by Gary Baldi on Dec 10, 2016 19:02:13 GMT
By the FA I suppose. Other clubs don't from what I can see have the bigger flags being waved all game. Oldham aside, of course
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Post by finlandia on Dec 10, 2016 19:05:48 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" I was amongst them...it didn't bother me as I was at the front of them although I got flicked by it a couple of times....there was a scuffle with a couple,I don't know what that was about. No....rules are rules. When was this decided and by whom? Think it's in the ground regs
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Post by behindthegoal on Dec 10, 2016 19:06:05 GMT
I was using the word 'rules'...perhaps it's not a rule, Maybe it was the club just asking us fans to be considerate to others.
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 10, 2016 19:09:26 GMT
We...us fans...were told, and it's not hard to take in.....flags can be waved at the start, after a goal, at the end, why the tantrum?? by taking it all down was a knee jerk childish reaction Yes... the fans around agreed it was ok to fly the flag, but would it end there, others in the east stand might have started flying the flags stating "they can ...why can't we???" No....rules are rules. except for the Oldham away support of course where those rules it seems are not rules, nor were they applied Stewards went and made Oldham put their big waving flag down when it went up again just before half time. Same rules for both it would seem
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Post by finlandia on Dec 10, 2016 19:12:10 GMT
I'm not sure the club can much about this - the Ultra's do a great job, but if they were asked to stop and they didn't then they must expect some response. I'm not saying it's right, but it seems to be becoming a mountain out of a mole hill.
Questions should be asked about the behavior of the stewards if some of the stories above are true. Maybe it's a job for Oxvox
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Post by Gary Baldi on Dec 10, 2016 19:17:44 GMT
I'm not sure the club can much about this - the Ultra's do a great job, but if they were asked to stop and they didn't then they must expect some response. I'm not saying it's right, but it seems to be becoming a mountain out of a mole hill. Questions should be asked about the behavior of the stewards if some of the stories above are true. Maybe it's a job for Oxvox From what I could see, it seems both sides were provoking each other. I heard some choice words to stewards which I found unacceptable, but was far enough away that it was impossible to hear and see it all from start to end. Both the stewards and fans let themselves down equally today in my opinion.
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Post by sussox on Dec 10, 2016 19:20:43 GMT
I went to ask one of the orange coated little hitlers under the North Stand to find out what exactly had happened, on my way to get a coffee. He said it was due to the fact the large flag had been waved once too many times, under new rules being implemented by the new safety officer. When I asked his name, the little orange one became quite aggressive and asked what was I going to do with the name. By this time I was expecting the candid camera crew to pop out.
He didn't like being told to go away, as I had no wish to converse with him as I had done nothing wrong!
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Post by oufcyellows on Dec 10, 2016 19:21:42 GMT
Are fans allowed up on the steps at the back during play ? If so or with agreement of the club could those with flags not stand up there, then not in anyone's view, or at risk of hitting anyone, what ever the issue is. Oufc seem more relaxed than most teams about flags and poles even being allowed into the ground.
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Post by Junior on Dec 10, 2016 19:22:44 GMT
When was this decided and by whom? You didn't know about it??? You said the fans were told, that's what I'm asking about. By who? I know it's in the ground regs but you make it sound as if it's come from Oufc . Apologies if that wasn't the case.
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Post by thehorse on Dec 10, 2016 19:26:49 GMT
The explanation on the radio sounded very much like a toys out of the pram reaction, "we don't like being told what to do" was one quote.
The banners etc are great but waving the big flag as the game goes on isn't ideal, in fact I'm glad my seat is further down so it doesn't get in my way.
Taking them all down and leaving the ground as protest is a little childish, just stick to the request the club has made (as alluded to on radio ox after the call) and you have no problem.
It comes across to me that a certain group of people want to be able to do whatever they want no matter what the club and other supporters feelings are and then feel hard done by when they are pulled up on it.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Dec 10, 2016 19:34:27 GMT
The explanation on the radio sounded very much like a toys out of the pram reaction, "we don't like being told what to do" was one quote. The banners etc are great but waving the big flag as the game goes on isn't ideal, in fact I'm glad my seat is further down so it doesn't get in my way. Taking them all down and leaving the ground as protest is a little childish, just stick to the request the club has made (as alluded to on radio ox after the call) and you have no problem. It comes across to me that a certain group of people want to be able to do whatever they want no matter what the club and other supporters feelings are and then feel hard done by when they are pulled up on it. While I understand what you're saying, I think you're being a little unfair. Don't forget what the Ultra boys do for the club in improving the atmosphere. They go to a lot of effort, and some of the displays are done at their own expense.
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Post by yellowshark on Dec 10, 2016 19:37:13 GMT
You didn't know about it??? You said the fans were told, that's what I'm asking about. By who? I know it's in the ground regs but you make it sound as if it's come from Oufc . Apologies if that wasn't the case. I'm a fan and nobody told me.
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