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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 12:08:40 GMT
I'm not for insulting Merkel, Pete, but I didn't represent her as having the appearance of a low grade bank clerk and the charisma of a damp rag. Merkel is on borrowed time and might not be around after this year. I see Theresa May is now saying we should stay in as we exercise greater control of our borders. I'd like to think it was true but it doesn't appear that way. The ECJ can over rule the Home Secretary. She said immigration is too high but there is little she can do about it. Talk about Britain going to the back of the queue seems far fetched too. We've been free to negotiate trade deals elsewhere without the EU
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Post by whingit on Apr 25, 2016 14:46:09 GMT
It's not the idea that they wouldn't trade, more the fact that as part of any trade deal free movement, certain laws and fees will be enforced on us as it is with other European countries outside of the EU. The argument being that instead of being subject to those rules outside of the EU, remain and at least have some say over them.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Apr 25, 2016 16:08:30 GMT
It's not the idea that they wouldn't trade, more the fact that as part of any trade deal free movement, certain laws and fees will be enforced on us as it is with other European countries outside of the EU. The argument being that instead of being subject to those rules outside of the EU, remain and at least have some say over them. Well we can set our fee's and rules
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Post by leysboy on Apr 25, 2016 19:26:33 GMT
Im voting to leave the EU, wont give my reasons, but I really like the idea of change and the unknown.
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Post by flean on Apr 25, 2016 20:07:31 GMT
It's not the idea that they wouldn't trade, more the fact that as part of any trade deal free movement, certain laws and fees will be enforced on us as it is with other European countries outside of the EU. The argument being that instead of being subject to those rules outside of the EU, remain and at least have some say over them. Well we can set our fee's and rules But we probably can't, can we. We're not that important anymore!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Apr 25, 2016 20:16:45 GMT
Well we can set our fee's and rules But we probably can't, can we. We're not that important anymore! I'm sure we could
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 22:07:14 GMT
Didn't I read somewhere we are the fifth largest trader in the world. So we are that important
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 22:11:47 GMT
I reckon our foreign secretary should go to the USA and extol the virtues of Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. After all he's entitled to his opinion as much as Clinton and Obama are
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 11:13:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 15:37:34 GMT
Trump and Boris....I am sure they'd make a good special relationship
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Post by flean on Apr 27, 2016 16:35:32 GMT
"The eight analysts, led by Margaret Thatcher’s adviser Patrick Minford," well, I got that far before closing the page and deleting the history.
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 17:15:31 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 27, 2016 17:28:41 GMT
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 17:53:51 GMT
I'm pretty certain that the Independence Day referred to there is the American Independence. You know, when they managed to get rid of the foreign government imposed on them against the people's will. Sound familiar?
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Post by whingit on Apr 27, 2016 17:55:30 GMT
I'm pretty certain that the Independence Day referred to there is the American Independence. You know, when they managed to get rid of the foreign government imposed on them against the people's will. Sound familiar? Haha, are you being serious?
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Post by MJB on Apr 27, 2016 18:04:24 GMT
I'm pretty certain that the Independence Day referred to there is the American Independence. You know, when they managed to get rid of the foreign government imposed on them against the people's will. Sound familiar? Ah, you must be the brains of the operation. Paul, considered yourself put in your box.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 27, 2016 18:04:43 GMT
I'm pretty certain that the Independence Day referred to there is the American Independence. You know, when they managed to get rid of the foreign government imposed on them against the people's will. Sound familiar? Nope. The film's quite good though, end of the world and all that.
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 18:08:11 GMT
I'm pretty certain that the Independence Day referred to there is the American Independence. You know, when they managed to get rid of the foreign government imposed on them against the people's will. Sound familiar? Haha, are you being serious? Tenuous link but get my point I'm sure!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 27, 2016 18:11:21 GMT
Point is that your campaign is run by buffoons. Very apt it is, too.
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 18:11:49 GMT
Haha, are you being serious? Tenuous link but get my point I'm sure! The good guys fought the good fight and won in the end!
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Post by whingit on Apr 27, 2016 18:13:18 GMT
Haha, are you being serious? Tenuous link but get my point I'm sure! They're incomparable!
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 18:15:16 GMT
Tenuous link but get my point I'm sure! The good guys fought the good fight and won in the end! And yours by the government....
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 19:34:34 GMT
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 19:35:06 GMT
Pubished on the last hour.
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Post by whingit on Apr 27, 2016 19:41:53 GMT
Christ, what a rubbish bar chart. If I drew one that out of proportion in an exam i'd have failed!
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Post by The Fence End on Apr 27, 2016 20:27:04 GMT
Christ, what a rubbish bar chart. If I drew one that out of proportion in an exam i'd have failed! Because that's what's important.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Apr 27, 2016 20:31:20 GMT
Christ, what a rubbish bar chart. If I drew one that out of proportion in an exam i'd have failed! Because that's what's important. It's a very visually misleading bar chart. You'll agree that the difference between 44% and 46% is small? If they were shown in the correct proportion the two bars would be very similar in width and height. They are not. It's a rather pathetic misinterpretation of the difference between the two camps, and I'd say that if it was the remain mob doing the b*llshitting.
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Post by flean on Apr 27, 2016 20:56:04 GMT
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Post by flean on May 5, 2016 20:13:48 GMT
Another world leader on the remain side, yet people still think leaving is a good idea. Maybe time to chip a bit of the north into the Atlantic and move them all to live on their own there? EU exit would make UK 'less attractive' to investors, says Japan's PM www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36215146
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Post by The Fence End on May 6, 2016 10:55:21 GMT
There was a time when British people would sacrifice everything for the right to be self governed and protect our national identity. Now a large percentage of British people aren't even will to POSSIBLY sacrifice a few quid to protect our national identity. That is a weak, selfish, pathetic and unpatriotic attitude which I really struggle to comprehend. It's a small price to pay in my opinion.
No one has a crystal ball to see what will happen should we lose so you have to vote with your heart, do you want to live in a country that can make its own laws and plan its own course or do you ultimately want to be governed by a foreign power? Do you want to be British or European?
Voting out won't change the government to a bunch of xenophobic nutters like some people think, it'll still be Dave and his mates and they can of course pass a British law that allows free movement of people from EU countries even though we may be officially outside the shengan area. So if your voting to stay in because it makes you feel liberal, don't worry about that, the government's foreign policy is unlikely to change.
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