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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 28, 2014 8:52:41 GMT
Wingers are historical players like outside halves. 442 is dead and Appleton prefers 4231 it seems. Why do people keep banging on about wingers? My guess is that Darcy Blake is the definite signing and Gillet is the hopeful one. They would certainly show our intent, a striker or 2 in the same quality and then surely everyone can get behind the team. Unless they cost to much of course
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Post by ox18 on Jul 28, 2014 8:58:16 GMT
Wingers are historical players like outside halves. 442 is dead and Appleton prefers 4231 it seems. Why do people keep banging on about wingers? My guess is that Darcy Blake is the definite signing and Gillet is the hopeful one. They would certainly show our intent, a striker or 2 in the same quality and then surely everyone can get behind the team. Unless they cost to much of course That will be a first then
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Post by horseman on Jul 28, 2014 8:59:13 GMT
not at all tats....we will all have varying opinions on players and you clearly don't rate hunt and you are entitled to that opinion.....i am also entitled to the opinion that the 2 brought in are average compared to kitson without having an agenda.
For what it's worth (again just my opinion) i think it's worth considering playing with a back 3 (Mullins, Long and Wright for me ), we were better going forward when that formation was played a couple of times last season.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 9:03:29 GMT
not at all tats....we will all have varying opinions on players and you clearly don't rate hunt and you are entitled to that opinion.....i am also entitled to the opinion that the 2 brought in are average compared to kitson without having an agenda. For what it's worth (again just my opinion) i think it's worth considering playing with a back 3 (Mullins, Long and Wright for me ), we were better going forward when that formation was played a couple of times last season. My point was that you have never even seen these two players play in an Oxford shirt yet you write them off as average. This is despite the fact when he was 24o Collins was a Championship midfielder.
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Post by jammydodger on Jul 28, 2014 9:56:22 GMT
By the sounds of it, Appleton is starting from the back and working his way up with bringing in a defensive/combative midfielder, goalkeeper, and now looking to bring in a defender and another midfielder. After that he'll bring in players for the front four positions.
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Post by jammydodger on Jul 28, 2014 10:01:54 GMT
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 28, 2014 11:22:24 GMT
Where are the forwards we need to score goals and at least be competitive? The balance of the squad is not right. 7 x 1st team defenders and 1 striker! At the moment we have one senior centre forward recently recruited by G Waddock - D Hylton and youth team forward Roberts. I understand T Marsh may be loaned out but we should hold on to him till we get additional forward(s) reinforcements. OUFC priorities should be 2 x forwards and a winger minimum! Top coaches and crass decision making! This is not rocket science! Agree with all that bar Ty Marsh needs t go sorry he is not up for league football, But the signing of defender.....Is that supposed to impress the fans?
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 11:25:33 GMT
Where are the forwards we need to score goals and at least be competitive? The balance of the squad is not right. 7 x 1st team defenders and 1 striker! At the moment we have one senior centre forward recently recruited by G Waddock - D Hylton and youth team forward Roberts. I understand T Marsh may be loaned out but we should hold on to him till we get additional forward(s) reinforcements. OUFC priorities should be 2 x forwards and a winger minimum! Top coaches and crass decision making! This is not rocket science! Agree with all that bar Ty Marsh needs t go sorry he is not up for league football, But the signing of defender.....Is that supposed to impress the fans? The point of signings Bazzer is to improve the team first and foremost, not impress the fans. And fr what it is worth, many fans do seem pretty impressed with this. Myself included.
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Post by androidyellow2 on Jul 28, 2014 11:25:46 GMT
OM reporting we're closing in on a midfielder, got a feeling this could be a very very good signing.
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 28, 2014 11:27:27 GMT
I am impressed - don't particularly rate Hunt at right back.Technically a good footballer but he can slow play down alarmingly at times.
At 31/32 he's not getting any younger either.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 11:30:02 GMT
OM reporting we're closing in on a midfielder, got a feeling this could be a very very good signing. Where have you seen that? Or is it the same article as this morning?
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 28, 2014 11:31:42 GMT
Agree with all that bar Ty Marsh needs t go sorry he is not up for league football, But the signing of defender.....Is that supposed to impress the fans? The point of signings Bazzer is to improve the team first and foremost, not impress the fans. And fr what it is worth, many fans do seem pretty impressed with this. Myself included. From what I and other fans have seen tats ty isn't league class send him on loan toughen him up and maybe just maybe he may come back a much improved striker
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Post by androidyellow2 on Jul 28, 2014 11:31:53 GMT
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 11:33:03 GMT
The point of signings Bazzer is to improve the team first and foremost, not impress the fans. And fr what it is worth, many fans do seem pretty impressed with this. Myself included. From what I and other fans have seen tats ty isn't league class send him on loan toughen him up and maybe just maybe he may come back a much improved striker I wasn't talking about Ty. I was on about your question of whether signing a defender was meant to impress the fans.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 28, 2014 11:35:57 GMT
ok sorry but did we really need another defender when goal scoring is a problem at OUFC?
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Post by backtobasics on Jul 28, 2014 11:35:56 GMT
Agree with all that bar Ty Marsh needs t go sorry he is not up for league football, But the signing of defender.....Is that supposed to impress the fans? The point of signings Bazzer is to improve the team first and foremost, not impress the fans. And fr what it is worth, many fans do seem pretty impressed with this. Myself included. Fact is OUFC still need someone to score a fair number goals and relying currently on one striker is not enough. Think about it 2 more forwards minimum to generate the goals we need to make progress. Urgent forward(s)recruitment needed to complement and balance the squad please Michael.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 11:36:51 GMT
The point of signings Bazzer is to improve the team first and foremost, not impress the fans. And fr what it is worth, many fans do seem pretty impressed with this. Myself included. Fact is OUFC still need someone to score a fair number goals and relying currently on one striker is not enough. Think about it 2 more forwards minimum to generate the goals we need to make progress. Urgent forward(s)recruitment needed to complement and balance the squad please Michael. Yes obviously... We also need to score at least one goal to beat Burton on the first game of the season.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 28, 2014 11:43:19 GMT
Fact is OUFC still need someone to score a fair number goals and relying currently on one striker is not enough. Think about it 2 more forwards minimum to generate the goals we need to make progress. Urgent forward(s)recruitment needed to complement and balance the squad please Michael. Yes obviously... We also need to score at least one goal to beat Burton on the first game of the season. At the moment tats that's a tall order
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Post by cecantena on Jul 28, 2014 11:45:13 GMT
Fact is OUFC still need someone to score a fair number goals and relying currently on one striker is not enough. Think about it 2 more forwards minimum to generate the goals we need to make progress. Urgent forward(s)recruitment needed to complement and balance the squad please Michael. Yes obviously... We also need to score at least one goal to beat Burton on the first game of the season. “Beyond that obviously we have still got a bit of time, but there’s still a lot of work to do, especially at the top end of the pitch.”
Michael is aware of it, and I am sure will rectify the situation in due course. A little more patience required perhaps?
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 11:46:13 GMT
Yes obviously... We also need to score at least one goal to beat Burton on the first game of the season. “Beyond that obviously we have still got a bit of time, but there’s still a lot of work to do, especially at the top end of the pitch.”
Michael is aware of it, and I am sure will rectify the situation in due course. A little more patience required perhaps? That's my point. Anyone coming on here announcing that we need to sign attacking players is stating the very obvious.
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Post by myles on Jul 28, 2014 11:59:12 GMT
Surely the point of this quality management team put in place is to convince premiership and championship teams to provide 2 or 3 season long loans of their best young players like Tottenham and Swindon arranged last season? Which is fine if you are bringing in talent to fill the appropriate gaps. So far, we've brought in a keeper and right back which must leave Crocombe and Bevans scratching their heads as to where they stand. Max seems to have done a decent job in the games he's played so far, and Matty Bevs also did well at the tail end of last season. To effectively have a question mark put over them now seems odd to me. And at the same time, we have three senior pros to cover the four front positions. I'm seriously struggling to see where goals are going to come from at the moment.
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 28, 2014 12:02:21 GMT
Myles you are struggling to see anything in that deep sea of negativity you are swirling around in.
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Post by sihath on Jul 28, 2014 12:03:12 GMT
Surely the point of this quality management team put in place is to convince premiership and championship teams to provide 2 or 3 season long loans of their best young players like Tottenham and Swindon arranged last season? Which is fine if you are bringing in talent to fill the appropriate gaps. So far, we've brought in a keeper and right back which must leave Crocombe and Bevans scratching their heads as to where they stand. Max seems to have done a decent job in the games he's played so far, and Matty Bevs also did well at the tail end of last season. To effectively have a question mark put over them now seems odd to me. And at the same time, we have three senior pros to cover the four front positions. I'm seriously struggling to see where goals are going to come from at the moment. From the 2 or 3 attacking players that we've not yet signed. You're right that at the moment, we look light up front, but I would be astounded if we don't sign 2 or 3 attacking players and perhaps a loanee up front as well.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 12:05:08 GMT
Surely the point of this quality management team put in place is to convince premiership and championship teams to provide 2 or 3 season long loans of their best young players like Tottenham and Swindon arranged last season? Which is fine if you are bringing in talent to fill the appropriate gaps. So far, we've brought in a keeper and right back which must leave Crocombe and Bevans scratching their heads as to where they stand. Max seems to have done a decent job in the games he's played so far, and Matty Bevs also did well at the tail end of last season. To effectively have a question mark put over them now seems odd to me. And at the same time, we have three senior pros to cover the four front positions. I'm seriously struggling to see where goals are going to come from at the moment. Probably from the players we have been told about 400 times that we are going to sign before the season starts.
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Post by socrates on Jul 28, 2014 12:15:17 GMT
it's obvious that when the management met OxVox and said we'd sign 2-3 players more, there has been a change of heart.
i would be very surprised if we didn't bring in 3 forwards
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 28, 2014 12:17:43 GMT
it's obvious that when the management met OxVox and said we'd sign 2-3 players more, there has been a change of heart. i would be very surprised if we didn't bring in 3 forwards As long as these forwards can score goals!
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Post by backonthecoupon on Jul 28, 2014 12:18:02 GMT
“Beyond that obviously we have still got a bit of time, but there’s still a lot of work to do, especially at the top end of the pitch.”
Michael is aware of it, and I am sure will rectify the situation in due course. A little more patience required perhaps? That's my point. Anyone coming on here announcing that we need to sign attacking players is stating the very obvious. Is that what they are saying? Or are questioning why valuable time and budget is being used up getting players in positions where we are OK, when that time and budget could be spent on the positions that we are desperately short. Its a valid question.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jul 28, 2014 12:21:57 GMT
Surely, given that they've already said Ty Marsh will be going out on loan, they wouldn't have said that unless they intended to get more strikers in? At the moment, as out and out strikers we've got a youth player and a bloke whose last club was Wimbledon (plus Alfie if you count him as a striker). They are loaning players in from Bolton and Sheffield United elsewhere on the pitch, you would hope and expect to see similar quality up front - whether as loans or proper signings.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 28, 2014 12:23:18 GMT
That's my point. Anyone coming on here announcing that we need to sign attacking players is stating the very obvious. Is that what they are saying? Or are questioning why valuable time and budget is being used up getting players in positions where we are OK, when that time and budget could be spent on the positions that we are desperately short. Its a valid question. It would be a valid question if it wasn't painfully obvious that we are about to sign these players. Also it is pretty obvious that, in the manager's opinion, we are not OK in these positions or he wouldn't have strengthened there. And is OK really good enough or shouldn't we be striving for better in every position?
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Post by mac on Jul 28, 2014 12:23:19 GMT
That's my point. Anyone coming on here announcing that we need to sign attacking players is stating the very obvious. Is that what they are saying? Or are questioning why valuable time and budget is being used up getting players in positions where we are OK, when that time and budget could be spent on the positions that we are desperately short. Its a valid question. I'd have thought that as Mapp is looking at several positions these have just been agreed before the others have.
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