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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 7, 2016 8:27:34 GMT
Well, season 6 starts in 6 weeks. Very exciting. Going to be the first series I watched (since the first) where I have no real idea what is happening as the show is overtaking the books. Though there are some major plot differences between the two. Just wish Martin would get his arse in gear and finish the book. He's too busy enjoying the fruits of his labour to get around to finishing the book off. The fact he is writing other books and getting them out suggests he has had some serious writers block as well. Quite how long it will take to finish the series off... There are some parts of the books that will still be in play - some new characters have apparently been spoilierific on what their character is. Some people could be disappointed that their pet theory of R+L=J may not be true. In the TV series any way
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Post by tonyw on Mar 7, 2016 19:19:35 GMT
GRR's blog when he finally realized that he wasn't going to get the book written in time was hilarious - for a writer, he isn't half a prima donna: grrm.livejournal.com/465247.htmlHis publishers must be absolutely seething. With the TV show now ahead of the books, they're going to sell half as many when he finally does finish them off....... Personally though, I think the TV show is significantly better than the books. It's far more disciplined - the story is complex enough without introducing all the other unnecessary factions that GRR brought in - and some of the amended character arcs make more sense that the originals. Also really looking forward to the first season I will have watched with no knowledge of the plot since Season 2!
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Post by holdsteady on Mar 7, 2016 20:02:43 GMT
Still another book after this one, at his current rate of writing the TV show will finish 5 years before the books. You have to wonder if he has got bored of it, doesn't need the money now.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 7, 2016 21:57:22 GMT
GRR's blog when he finally realized that he wasn't going to get the book written in time was hilarious - for a writer, he isn't half a prima donna: grrm.livejournal.com/465247.htmlHis publishers must be absolutely seething. With the TV show now ahead of the books, they're going to sell half as many when he finally does finish them off....... Personally though, I think the TV show is significantly better than the books. It's far more disciplined - the story is complex enough without introducing all the other unnecessary factions that GRR brought in - and some of the amended character arcs make more sense that the originals. Also really looking forward to the first season I will have watched with no knowledge of the plot since Season 2! GRRM is very sensitive when fans tell him to hurry the eff up - those blogs don't half ramble at times. GRRM seems to dislike deadlines and the more pressure he gets on the arbitrary deadlines he makes, the more prissy he is when they come around and he misses them. Agree on the TV series. Little reference to lamprey pie feasts and the such goes a long way to improving it. The TV people did GRRM a favour by leaving the last series on the cusp of the book.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 8, 2016 23:23:52 GMT
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Post by Best Mate on Apr 24, 2016 19:13:59 GMT
So the wait is over. Tomorrow night, Thrones returns.
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Post by holdsteady on Apr 24, 2016 20:28:57 GMT
So the wait is over. Tomorrow night, Thrones returns. 2 am tomorrow if you really can't wait, but I think I will go for the later one.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Apr 24, 2016 20:40:12 GMT
I record the 2am showing and watch it when I get in from work. No ads to sit through, fewer chances of spoilers.
Is the bastard Snow really dead?
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Post by Best Mate on Apr 25, 2016 22:11:42 GMT
Thought it was a decent start.
Seems to be getting mixed reviews from what I can see......the show is notorious for building and I think some want it just to jump straight in with the carnage.
We just lost another handful of the characters who are not in the book. So in terms of action, it was quite lively.
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Post by Best Mate on Apr 25, 2016 22:12:10 GMT
Oh - strange old ending though!
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Post by Gary Baldi on Apr 26, 2016 7:11:50 GMT
It wasn't an action fest sort of episode, but I think moved the story along a lot. If there are only 13 episodes left after this season, they need to get a wriggle on with the story.
The ending shows the loss of belief in the Red God and Melisandre's visions being wrong. She wanted Stannis to be king, but the visions didn't tell her that and she read them wrongly. I suspect she'll have a big episode next week or the week after when she does something big.
Oh, and the less Targaryen, the better.
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Post by holdsteady on Apr 26, 2016 13:40:12 GMT
It wasn't an action fest sort of episode, but I think moved the story along a lot. If there are only 13 episodes left after this season, they need to get a wriggle on with the story. The ending shows the loss of belief in the Red God and Melisandre's visions being wrong. She wanted Stannis to be king, but the visions didn't tell her that and she read them wrongly. I suspect she'll have a big episode next week or the week after when she does something big. Oh, and the less Targaryen, the better. The end messed up my perving somewhat. I liked it although it would of been better if everyone from Dorne had killed everyone else from Dorne and it was never mentioned again, it hasn't worked on the TV show (hit and miss with the books although that's a completely different plot) apart from the viper.
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Post by tonyw on Apr 26, 2016 19:05:09 GMT
It wasn't an action fest sort of episode, but I think moved the story along a lot. If there are only 13 episodes left after this season, they need to get a wriggle on with the story. The ending shows the loss of belief in the Red God and Melisandre's visions being wrong. She wanted Stannis to be king, but the visions didn't tell her that and she read them wrongly. I suspect she'll have a big episode next week or the week after when she does something big. Oh, and the less Targaryen, the better. Interesting - I had interpreted the final scene as Melisandre basically committing suicide (or at least allowing herself to age and die). Which is challenging, because she seemed like the logical way to bring Jon Snow back to life. And if Jon Snow isn't coming back to life, then GoT has basically pulled the exact same trick three times (Ned, Robb, Jon) in killing off the only genuinely good, heroic characters. She did of course leave the neck thingamajig behind.....maybe someone else is going to take over?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Apr 26, 2016 21:06:22 GMT
I'm only assuming that the producers want us to think she is giving up due to a lack of faith. They really want us to think Snow is deader than dead can be, so what better way to do it than have his potential saviour giving up? All the talk has been Melisandre will save him so they've made us assume she won't. Especially when the person who cannot stand or trust her in Davo may well be her saviour in his desperation to not see more bloodshed? I wouldn't be surprised if they massively string out the whole thing.
Of course, Bran may well get involved as well with the Direwolf. And why isn't Jon a white walker now he's dead?
I do agree about Dorne. So much better in the books. Not great, but not so badly written and pointless.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Apr 26, 2016 21:16:11 GMT
And of course, the first trailer alluded to us finally seeing a young Eddard and his group going after Lyanna Stark. That particular shoe will finally fall it seems.
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Post by Best Mate on May 2, 2016 20:22:57 GMT
Belting episode today. Sets the season up nicely.
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 2, 2016 20:55:54 GMT
Very good episode. Really pushes the whole story along a lot, and now the whole Snow dead or alive thing is over and done with, perhaps we can look forward to Bastard Bowl in the North and finding out about Jon's past.
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Post by Best Mate on May 3, 2016 12:47:20 GMT
Exactly that. Was panicking they would drag Jon out for the majority of the season and when you add in the events at Winterfell - the story is gathering pace nice and early which is great. Even Ayra is back in the game in terms of off the street and her arc will continue again - assumingly with more in-depth training/ learning. I.e. like the karate kid painting fences, waxing cars and balancing on a beam and then starts to put it all together to realise what she has learned. I am positive she will have a key role to play as the story unfolds.
Set up nicely for war in the North.
Tommen going to Cersai for advise makes me think we will see another war heading south towards Dorne.
Be interesting to see how long the righteous priest and his army last. Assuming the Tyrells (both) will be freed soon and they will be teaming up further with the Lannisters for revenge. I sense a night of death coming. That 'nun' will most definitely lose her head after ringing that bell behind Cersai and smacking Marjorie about.
Sansa - not sure where she really heads next. Will we see two Starks siblings reunited for the first time since Bran and Rickon separated (season 3??). They have been isolated for a long time. I get the impression that Ayra and Sansa will get a scene together in the future.....but it may not be a happy one. Martin has made it clear with his books so far, The Starks do not get 'luck' on their travels.
I have no idea re Theon.
It is fun to speculate - I am still pi$$ed the next book is not completed but it does add a different element to watching the show.
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 3, 2016 13:09:22 GMT
I suspect Sansa will be the heir of Winterfell ultimately, once the Bolton's and Stark's (plus other houses) have had their skirmish. Snow will then I think head to Kings Landing and maybe get involved there once he finds out who mammy and daddy are, and his lineage to the throne. Arya is possibly going to knobble Cersei for killing Ned somehow. Even though she shouldn't.
Of course, we are yet to see Little Finger and what his ultimate end game is, but the trailer alludes to certain things. And finally. We have the white walkers.
GRRM really needs to get on with the book. You can tell he's struggling with the amount of side projects he's doing. If his prose was less, he'd be done by now!
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Post by bacon on May 3, 2016 14:05:35 GMT
Tyrian talking with the dragons makes me wonder if he has some Targarayen(?) in his blood?
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Post by tonyw on May 3, 2016 18:10:36 GMT
Tyrian talking with the dragons makes me wonder if he has some Targarayen(?) in his blood? I believe the speculation is that three dragons means three heirs to the throne, working in tandom (presumably to also kill them some white walkers) Daenarys and Jon Snow are presumably the first two. Maybe they will be able to find a way to shoehorn Tyrion into the third role. He's most peoples' favourite character after all! Tommen is clearly doomed - and Cersei knows it. I imagine there's going to be one hell of a bloodbath coming in King's Landing sometime soon. The "I choose violence" line in the trailer was both awesome, and fairly indicative!
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 3, 2016 20:29:45 GMT
The thing with Tyrion is, it's been left just vague enough about his paternal parentage that he could be a bastard of sorts. Which would make sense with how Tywin treated him.
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Post by Best Mate on May 10, 2016 11:34:56 GMT
Not a classic by any stretch but think again, the story has really jumped forward and we are in a good place to launch the season. DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED....
- Jon is alive, dealt with the Nightswatch 'issue' (disloyalty and his vow) and on the move, presumably South and opens up a lot for his story Arc. Interesting to see whether the Wildlings follow him? I am assuming we will not see much of the Wall until the end of the season now as no main characters are really left there. Until the 'real war' begins against the White Walkers. - Ayra has passed initial training, has her sight and we can see what is next in store for her. I think she has been there for a season and a half and its time for her to progress on. - Rickon is back - always a key character as assuming Bran has an alternative path in life, he is the heir of Winterfell and the North - Bran - we are close to (assumingly) finding out that John is not Ned's bastard but his sister/ Targayran baby. I am liking the flashbacks.
With Sansa on the move North - suddenly the Starks having been constrained (by vows, duty, against their will or in hiding) are all back in play.
- Tyrion is about to use his brain and you just know will have a clever plan to avenge the 3 cities funding the sons of harpy - Danny is still (for me) a boring Arc and they need to get her the hell out of there.
Not a great episode by any stretch - but I think it has set a platform for the season to really drive forward again.
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 10, 2016 12:40:36 GMT
It was a necessary episode to kick along the story, but without the initial sizzle of the first two episodes. I like Arya's story moving on as it was starting to get Dany level boring and all too pointless. Snow no longer has split loyalties and we know Bran has a mission other than sitting in a tree forever. I do wonder what the point of the Greyjoys and Dorne is for the TV series.
And there is the hint of a trial by combat coming. Which should be darned good. Where oh where has Littel Finger gone?
Liam Cunningham has been really good as Davos this series.
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Post by saddletramp on May 10, 2016 12:59:52 GMT
Not another thread about Wilder,he'going to Charlton get over it.
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Post by Best Mate on May 16, 2016 21:28:15 GMT
That was a belter. Class episode. SPOILERS...... The moment the Starks reunited at last. The first meet of two siblings since season 1 I think? Great scene. In the bigger picture, war is coming across the 7 kingdoms. The North. Kings Landing. Mereen (spelling). Next few weeks are going to be a blood bath. I can't wait!! And the end - wow - been a while Danny - great finish to a top episode.
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Post by Gary Baldi on May 17, 2016 7:23:45 GMT
The end game is upon us as the Stark's are getting back together. What is Littlefinger up to?
Thing is, while Westeros is fighting each other, the others are coming and have an unlimited army. Will it become a fight between dragons and the cold ones?
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Post by scotters on May 17, 2016 8:48:42 GMT
Really feels like we're getting somewhere with it now - the books just got slower and slower. Love the characters coming back together, everyone having their own little plot line was getting a bit tedious.
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Post by bacon on May 17, 2016 11:53:48 GMT
said it all along that it will end up with the dragons fighting with the wildlings to end it. It makes sense, fire v ice
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Post by oxfordboy on May 17, 2016 12:23:41 GMT
Really feels like we're getting somewhere with it now - the books just got slower and slower. Love the characters coming back together, everyone having their own little plot line was getting a bit tedious. I think the last book was kind of like the last season of the show ie just one big set up for the next instalment, there's so much happening in the next book, we'll see huge leaps forward and finally have the endgame in sight
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