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Post by ox4eva on Oct 18, 2017 0:59:58 GMT
Firstly fair play to Charlton with a decent turnout.
Disappointed with our support though and of course there could be various reasons for this. But I just wish more would come out and back the U's.
Same on Saturday when again I bet there won't be many more!
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Post by oxfordboy on Oct 18, 2017 1:04:50 GMT
About what I was expecting, it is a Tuesday night
I think attendances will be down this year but not as bad as they currently look, Northampton should be a good crowd, with Rotherham and Blackburn both being above the current average too. December only has 2 home games, Doncaster likely won't be a big crowd but Wigan will be, then January and February both have some big games and by then I see our averages being significantly higher than they are now
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 18, 2017 1:12:32 GMT
Club marketing.
Zero
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 18, 2017 1:22:17 GMT
Agree marketing has been poor but a game like tonight should not really need to be marketed. We make far too many excuses for those who can't be bothered to support this great club.
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Post by eraser on Oct 18, 2017 1:40:33 GMT
Agree marketing has been poor but a game like tonight should not really need to be marketed. We make far too many excuses for those who can't be bothered to support this great club. Or can't afford to support this club - The general ticket price hikes were too much this year including renewing season tickets (Loyal Fans) and given the turmoil at the time I didn't renew. The club have to balance supply and demand and decide if they want full houses! They've scored an own goal this year I'm afraid.
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 18, 2017 1:47:06 GMT
Agree marketing has been poor but a game like tonight should not really need to be marketed. We make far too many excuses for those who can't be bothered to support this great club. Or can't afford to support this club - The general ticket price hikes were too much this year including renewing season tickets (Loyal Fans) and given the turmoil at the time I didn't renew. The club have to balance supply and demand and decide if they want full houses! They've scored an own goal this year I'm afraid. If tonight was a cup game against some big team many would suddenly be able to afford it I bet..
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Post by oldham on Oct 18, 2017 4:46:23 GMT
School hols next week, that’s probably put some off.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 18, 2017 5:37:15 GMT
Or can't afford to support this club - The general ticket price hikes were too much this year including renewing season tickets (Loyal Fans) and given the turmoil at the time I didn't renew. The club have to balance supply and demand and decide if they want full houses! They've scored an own goal this year I'm afraid. If tonight was a cup game against some big team many would suddenly be able to afford it I bet.. But that’s the point, people pick and choose where and when to spend it. If it’s a cheaper price ur more likely to get people coming to other games as well as just the big ones.
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Post by Junior on Oct 18, 2017 7:04:59 GMT
Have the club done any offers this season?
Doubtful.
I've not been contacted once this season about tickets. This is with me being an ex season ticket holder. Not one letter through the post around renewal time. Not one email about tickets for upcoming games.
Even sent an email to the club via 2/3 different address about a separate issue and had no response.
A lot of fans are also staying away because of the clubs stance about Oxtales . Did anyone ever get a answer from the club about that?
Oh and don't forget the ground. It's a shithole. Simple as that.
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Post by sheikdjibouti on Oct 18, 2017 7:06:47 GMT
Inflation + wage stagnation = less spending money + ticket price hikes = harder for people to afford it/justify it week in week out.
I would expect the trend to continue until something in that equation changes for the majority to make it more viable. Plus OUFC are going to have a work a bit harder on the marketing to make it a more attractive prospect when people have to choose ever more carefully where their ever-diminishing spending money goes.
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Post by foley on Oct 18, 2017 7:41:53 GMT
Have the club done any offers this season? Doubtful. I've not been contacted once this season about tickets. This is with me being an ex season ticket holder. Not one letter through the post around renewal time. Not one email about tickets for upcoming games. Even sent an email to the club via 2/3 different address about a separate issue and had no response. A lot of fans are also staying away because of the clubs stance about Oxtales . Did anyone ever get a answer from the club about that?
Oh and don't forget the ground. It's a shithole. Simple as that. What? 'A Lot of fans are staying away due to ...Oxtales' What on earth is that? That justifies 'supporters' to stop going to support what could be a really good team playing excellent football? The ground is no worse than it has been in the past few years
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 18, 2017 7:45:04 GMT
Have the club done any offers this season? Doubtful. They've done a few decent ones for OxVox members.
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Post by Best Mate on Oct 18, 2017 8:03:50 GMT
On a seperate note, I thought it was a little flat last night (support wise). First 15 mins especially - of course, didn't help we we're being played off the park at that point.
Was a decent rendition of Peps yellow army but if you actually listen, huge amount clap along and do not sing....
Very little interaction with away fans - even when they sing we are inbred with an Adams family song and we equalise straight after...no, "who are you", "you're not singing anymore" or anything really. Just continued on our merry way as if there were no away fans.
As always - decent effort by some to get it going but last night just happened to notice - majority of stand claps and doesn't sing anywhere near enough and huge amount of our songs have exactly the same clapping rhythm....
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Post by Junior on Oct 18, 2017 8:12:50 GMT
Ox tales is,
A new system being used by stewards, called OX-TALES. It was a database of supporters who were classed as risk supporters.
The system would be an APP and stewards could identify supporters of risk. Fans have to email Into the club and pay a small fee for the club to release what information they may have on you.
Who knows if Mixter shares this information with tvp or his own private company who Oxford Utd hire him from.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 18, 2017 8:13:17 GMT
Our stadium is rubbish and we all resent everything about it, from how crap it is to the fact we don't own it and blah blah blah. We won't get good atmosphere bar maybe a couple of games per season that have a bit of spice or come courtesy of a really prestigious cup draw. It has been that way for years and won't suddenly change now. Being in that situation and then asking people to cough up a lot of extra money won't help numbers as we've seen, and then that definitely won't help atmosphere.
We all hate that ground and wish we weren't there. That's the long and short of it and why the atmosphere is always so flat.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 18, 2017 8:43:25 GMT
On a seperate note, I thought it was a little flat last night (support wise). First 15 mins especially - of course, didn't help we we're being played off the park at that point. Was a decent rendition of Peps yellow army but if you actually listen, huge amount clap along and do not sing.... Very little interaction with away fans - even when they sing we are inbred with an Adams family song and we equalise straight after...no, "who are you", "you're not singing anymore" or anything really. Just continued on our merry way as if there were no away fans. As always - decent effort by some to get it going but last night just happened to notice - majority of stand claps and doesn't sing anywhere near enough and huge amount of our songs have exactly the same clapping rhythm.... I didn't think it was flat personally; I was in the thick of some pretty vociferous supporters. Sadly though their vitriol was directed toward our own players on occasion. And the reduced crowd numbers is endemic now in lower division clubs apart from those with a traditionally large home following where travelling isn't an issue.
I don't think it’s got anything to do with money, moreover apathy and disinterest. Watching live football just isn't as popular now as it was 50 - 75 years ago. This is the age of technology and we can watch live stream on various devices or on TV when the opportunity presents itself, or interact on match days through the internet on forums like this, as many do.
The nucleus of modern fans are comfortable with this arrangement and its not going to change. Success however, increases crowd sizes and should we reach the heady heights of the Championship play offs (or even automatic promotion) or draw highflying Manchester united at home in the cup or even reach a cup final then the latent supporters will come out of the woodwork.
It’s just a question of demographics and although the region has quite a far reaching catchment area for supporters, they are a pretty eclectic mix with plenty of other interests to spend their money on.
As for this testosterone fuelled, ritual and tribal singing ..not into it myself and its of no benefit to the players whatsoever, believe me you just cannot hear it in the heat of the match. You are however aware of ascending noise levels which is why a resounding come on you yellows by 2 or three thousand fans will have more effect that a hundred inbreds chanting “ your gonna get your fu***ing head kicked in “ !
Do you remember the Icelandic crowds clap chant from euro 2016.. ? I was at that game when they dumped us out of the championships and every Icelandic team member ( and English ) heard and reacted to that.. It was incredible
If I want to sing I will go to church.
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Post by plonker on Oct 18, 2017 8:46:55 GMT
For those interested in numbers, here's where we stand. Numbers are averages.
2016/17: 8,297 (7,474 home, 823 away) 17/10/17: 7,317 (6,650 home, 667 away) - Difference: -979 (-824 home, -155 away)
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Post by Best Mate on Oct 18, 2017 9:17:57 GMT
On a seperate note, I thought it was a little flat last night (support wise). First 15 mins especially - of course, didn't help we we're being played off the park at that point. Was a decent rendition of Peps yellow army but if you actually listen, huge amount clap along and do not sing.... Very little interaction with away fans - even when they sing we are inbred with an Adams family song and we equalise straight after...no, "who are you", "you're not singing anymore" or anything really. Just continued on our merry way as if there were no away fans. As always - decent effort by some to get it going but last night just happened to notice - majority of stand claps and doesn't sing anywhere near enough and huge amount of our songs have exactly the same clapping rhythm.... I didn't think it was flat personally; I was in the thick of some pretty vociferous supporters. Sadly though their vitriol was directed toward our own players on occasion. And the reduced crowd numbers is endemic now in lower division clubs apart from those with a traditionally large home following where travelling isn't an issue.
I don't think it’s got anything to do with money, moreover apathy and disinterest. Watching live football just isn't as popular now as it was 50 - 75 years ago. This is the age of technology and we can watch live stream on various devices or on TV when the opportunity presents itself, or interact on match days through the internet on forums like this, as many do.
The nucleus of modern fans are comfortable with this arrangement and its not going to change. Success however, increases crowd sizes and should we reach the heady heights of the Championship play offs (or even automatic promotion) or draw highflying Manchester united at home in the cup or even reach a cup final then the latent supporters will come out of the woodwork.
It’s just a question of demographics and although the region has quite a far reaching catchment area for supporters, they are a pretty eclectic mix with plenty of other interests to spend their money on.
[p ]As for this testosterone fuelled, ritual and tribal singing ..not into it myself and its of no benefit to the players whatsoever, believe me you just cannot hear it in the heat of the match. You are however aware of ascending noise levels which is why a resounding come on you yellows by 2 or three thousand fans will have more effect that a hundred inbreds chanting “ your gonna get your fu***ing head kicked in “ ! [/p]
Do you remember the Icelandic crowds clap chant from euro 2016.. ? I was at that game when they dumped us out of the championships and every Icelandic team member ( and English ) heard and reacted to that.. It was incredible [/b] If I want to sing I will go to church. [/p][/quote] To be honest - interacting with the away fans I always thought actually lifted our own volume. Agreed, the players may not exactly be stood listening to the chant but they will hear the noise and hence, I have no doubt that someone like Ledson feeds off the noise created. Its why the players talk about the followings away so much more as the noise is decent. And talking of COYY - we can't even manage one rendition at a corner / free kick last night....maybe we did have a minor version when the ref stopped to chat to two players about pushing on the line.
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 18, 2017 9:33:13 GMT
Lots of reasons given and I understand some of including financial issues that is affecting us all.
Also I guess some don't have that burning fire in their belly and passion for OUFC that others have and that will never change!
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 18, 2017 9:47:13 GMT
Hmmm .... as someone who wasn't there last night (and rarely is) I think it's a little unfair to suggest that having a 'passion for OUFC' can only be measured by attending a game.
There are fans who travel huge distances to watch every Oxford game - take a bow Yeovil - and others who live a five minute walk from the ground but rarely attend home matches. You can't assume that one is a 'better supporter' than the other, or has more passion.
As already described above, there are numerous reasons why people do or do not attend matches, all perfectly valid. Let's not turn this into a 'who's the better supporter' thread, which is how it's beginning to sound.
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Post by oxfordyankee on Oct 18, 2017 9:58:53 GMT
I'm sick of reading about fans staying away because of something they feel slighted about.
If you don't go out of choice, or because of some imaginary slight, you're a fan not a supporter. You don't have the right call yourself one.
One day this club will go belly up because of all the grudges its so called supporters hold against it; watch the p*ss boil then.
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 18, 2017 10:00:59 GMT
Hmmm .... as someone who wasn't there last night (and rarely is) I think it's a little unfair to suggest that having a 'passion for OUFC' can only be measured by attending a game. There are fans who travel huge distances to watch every Oxford game - take a bow Yeovil - and others who live a five minute walk from the ground but rarely attend home matches. You can't assume that one is a 'better supporter' than the other, or has more passion. As already described above, there are numerous reasons why people do or do not attend matches, all perfectly valid. Let's not turn this into a 'who's the better supporter' thread, which is how it's beginning to sound. You obviously fill the 'Armchair supporter' role perfectly. I'd hardly describe that as being passionate, but then, everyone to their own. Nothing to validate why people don't attend generally, and in one of the most prosperous and stable areas in the Country I don't think lack of finances is a reason. Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'??
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Post by pottersrightboot on Oct 18, 2017 10:15:53 GMT
A good supporter is someone who puts his hard earned into the club on a regular basis.
The team is playing very entertaining football. The only home clunker seven games into season was Walsall. It is nirvana compared to some seasons past.
We’ve scored 14 goals in those seven games.
Ergo ...we should should be getting more through the turnstiles. The clubs marketing efforts to attract new supporters have deteriorated badly.
As to the stadium, well it’s not perfect - but compared to the Manor in the last five years of its existence it’s the Bernabeau. Excellent pitch, great sight lines, decent leg room. Thought the atmosphere last night was middling, as crowd were too absorbed in the high technical quality on display to get too antsy towards officials and oppo.
This ‘we hate the ground’ vibe is overstated somewhat imo.
Anyway the point is crowds are down - and the way the team is playing - this disappoints me.
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 18, 2017 10:25:11 GMT
A good supporter is someone who puts his hard earned into the club on a regular basis. The team is playing very entertaining football. The only home clunker seven games into season was Walsall. It is nirvana compared to some seasons past. We’ve scored 14 goals in those seven games. Ergo ...we should should be getting more through the turnstiles. The clubs marketing efforts to attract new supporters have deteriorated badly. As to the stadium, well it’s not perfect - but compared to the Manor in the last five years of its existence it’s the Bernabeau. Excellent pitch, great sight lines, decent leg room. Thought the atmosphere last night was middling, as crowd were too absorbed in the high technical quality on display to get too antsy towards officials and oppo. This ‘we hate the ground’ vibe is overstated somewhat imo. Anyway the point is crowds are down - and the way the team is playing - this disappoints me. How dare you come on here with your positive outlook and spoiling it for the moaning barstewards who have so little to effin moan about oufc wise they have to latch onto what they can to feed their whinging ways.
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Post by botox on Oct 18, 2017 10:39:05 GMT
I was there and thoroughly enjoyed the game, even though we drew. Does not feel the same listening to it, or watching it on telly. I'm not criticising as I don't go to many away games. But people need to get out more
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 18, 2017 10:56:44 GMT
Couldn't agree more. There's no comparison between being there and watching it / listening to it by electronic means.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 18, 2017 10:58:27 GMT
Hmmm .... as someone who wasn't there last night (and rarely is) I think it's a little unfair to suggest that having a 'passion for OUFC' can only be measured by attending a game. There are fans who travel huge distances to watch every Oxford game - take a bow Yeovil - and others who live a five minute walk from the ground but rarely attend home matches. You can't assume that one is a 'better supporter' than the other, or has more passion. As already described above, there are numerous reasons why people do or do not attend matches, all perfectly valid. Let's not turn this into a 'who's the better supporter' thread, which is how it's beginning to sound. You obviously fill the 'Armchair supporter' role perfectly. I'd hardly describe that as being passionate, but then, everyone to their own. Nothing to validate why people don't attend generally, and in one of the most prosperous and stable areas in the Country I don't think lack of finances is a reason. Who would the Club describe as good Supporters, those who actually SUPPORT or those who 'rarely attend'?? I didn't claim I was 'passionate'. I'm not. I have lots of interests in my life, OUFC being just one of them. I dare say the club are pleased to have every single paying customer, whether it's every home game or once a season. I doubt officials sit around dividing fans into categories, as you seem to want to do.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 18, 2017 11:03:00 GMT
A good supporter is someone who puts his hard earned into the club on a regular basis. The team is playing very entertaining football. The only home clunker seven games into season was Walsall. It is nirvana compared to some seasons past. We’ve scored 14 goals in those seven games. Ergo ...we should should be getting more through the turnstiles. The clubs marketing efforts to attract new supporters have deteriorated badly. As to the stadium, well it’s not perfect - but compared to the Manor in the last five years of its existence it’s the Bernabeau. Excellent pitch, great sight lines, decent leg room. Thought the atmosphere last night was middling, as crowd were too absorbed in the high technical quality on display to get too antsy towards officials and oppo. This ‘we hate the ground’ vibe is overstated somewhat imo. Anyway the point is crowds are down - and the way the team is playing - this disappoints me. How dare you come on here with your positive outlook and spoiling it for the moaning barstewards who have so little to effin moan about oufc wise they have to latch onto what they can to feed their whinging ways. Making things up again. Who's moaning and whinging on this thread? Somebody asked why attendances are down, others suggested reasons. It's called debate. And as for Oxfordshire being a wealthy county so lack of funds not being a problem - a gem from you higher up the thread - I would say some of our support comes from less wealthy parts of the city (and beyond) so how they spend their money might indeed be a consideration.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 18, 2017 11:04:23 GMT
Couldn't agree more. There's no comparison between being there and watching it / listening to it by electronic means. Absolutely. Being there is far better. I wasn't though. (And I didn't watch it / listen to it by electronic means either. I was in the pub).
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 18, 2017 11:17:53 GMT
Hmmm .... as someone who wasn't there last night (and rarely is) I think it's a little unfair to suggest that having a 'passion for OUFC' can only be measured by attending a game. There are fans who travel huge distances to watch every Oxford game - take a bow Yeovil - and others who live a five minute walk from the ground but rarely attend home matches. You can't assume that one is a 'better supporter' than the other, or has more passion. As already described above, there are numerous reasons why people do or do not attend matches, all perfectly valid. Let's not turn this into a 'who's the better supporter' thread, which is how it's beginning to sound. I have not said anyone is a better supporter than anyone else. Fact is those who live and breath the club and go whenever they can have passion for OUFC. Those who find any excuse to not attend clearly don't have the same level of passion. Every club has this and I am not knocking anyone as it's their cash and their time. But there is a clear difference and OUFC needs more regular attenders from somewhere!
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