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Post by littlemore on Sept 26, 2017 21:12:39 GMT
Are we all in agreement that this run of terrible form started when we conceded that 94th equaliser against Bradford? It feels like we haven't had an ounce of confidence since. Yes and no. Yes that took confidence out but how can it still be a factor 3 games later.
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Post by themightyaldo on Sept 26, 2017 21:14:12 GMT
Yes Bob This is really really worrying there is no backbone and when we lose Saturday and we will,confidence will be rock bottom. I have said it before and will say it again, Pep is a fantastic coach but a poor manager look at his record when he has been no.1 The players he has brought in are not good enough Keep you away from razor blades mate. 'When we lose Saturday' ?! We will lose,I am just being realistic. We are not good enough. I have been watching the yellows for over 50 years and you just get a sense that all is not well. Pep won't do this but Williamson needs to be dropped Mousinho and Nelson Carroll and Ruffels would give us more pace and better defenders at the back. Mowatt and Ledson in the middle keep Hall and Henry wide and play two up front
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 26, 2017 21:16:10 GMT
Keep you away from razor blades mate. 'When we lose Saturday' ?! We will lose,I am just being realistic. We are not good enough. I have been watching the yellows for over 50 years and you just get a sense that all is not well. Pep won't do this but Williamson needs to be dropped Mousinho and Nelson Carroll and Ruffels would give us more pace and better defenders at the back. Mowatt and Ledson in the middle keep Hall and Henry wide and play two up front We don’t have two to play up front 😉
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Post by eraser on Sept 26, 2017 21:16:11 GMT
Darryl's silence recently is deafening - where's the pie and pint man from Carlisle away gone? Has there been a recent business scandal that might cost him...?? or something else? Seems to have been realising assets and maximizing revenue from fans with little obvious reinvestment.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 26, 2017 21:17:16 GMT
Keep you away from razor blades mate. 'When we lose Saturday' ?! We will lose,I am just being realistic. We are not good enough. I have been watching the yellows for over 50 years and you just get a sense that all is not well. Pep won't do this but Williamson needs to be dropped Mousinho and Nelson Carroll and Ruffels would give us more pace and better defenders at the back. Mowatt and Ledson in the middle keep Hall and Henry wide and play two up front Two up front? Oh how I wish.......well at least two that could play the number 9 & 10 roles oh and score as well.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 26, 2017 21:18:39 GMT
We will lose,I am just being realistic. We are not good enough. I have been watching the yellows for over 50 years and you just get a sense that all is not well. Pep won't do this but Williamson needs to be dropped Mousinho and Nelson Carroll and Ruffels would give us more pace and better defenders at the back. Mowatt and Ledson in the middle keep Hall and Henry wide and play two up front We don’t have two to play up front 😉 Don’t we? Well the lone striker isn’t working mate.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Sept 26, 2017 21:20:23 GMT
Are we all in agreement that this run of terrible form started when we conceded that 94th equaliser against Bradford? It feels like we haven't had an ounce of confidence since. Well not quite. There were games before that where we played very well for parts of the match but quite badly for other parts (eg MK away), games like Shrewsbury where we were bloody lucky to get a point and don't forget the cup match where we managed to let four in against Cheltenham! Sure, the confidence is now shot, but thinking we were play-off material before that late equaliser is optimistic.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Sept 26, 2017 21:20:36 GMT
Does this not show that Pep likes to point fingers away from himself?i'm sure he said he had one positive discussion with Chris and didn't here anything from him after.
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Post by holdsteady on Sept 26, 2017 21:20:54 GMT
I asked Pep at the fans forum off record if he was going to get a striker as we should have money to get one and his response to me was, if there is money I haven't seen it! There was never going to be any money to spend once Eales turned down Sartori to wait on a more profitable offer and plunder the transfer income in the meantime. Appleton saw which way the wind was blowing and jumped ship, he has been at desperate clubs before and wanted no part of it again, he also didn't want to tarnish his legacy of three good years here with what he must of guessed would be at best a poor season, at worst one which will end with relegation. Plus the prospect of new owners coming in at some point who would be whoever stumped up the most money not whoever wanted what was best for the club. His talk about leaving to work with top players was nonsense, he went to Leicester not Real Madrid. Clotet is a patsy, the cheap option who promised to work on the cheap and who misguidedly thought he could have some success with older English players dropping down the league who wanted a more local job, added to foreign players who have the worst injury records I have ever seen. Clotet is the Catalonian Gary Waddock, he is in place till we get new owners who will bring in there own man.
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Post by shosho on Sept 26, 2017 21:21:03 GMT
And we continue to concede from wide areas.
Any element of trying to deal with Maguire tonight? Essentially did exactly as Otzhumer did on Saturday.
He may not show it in public, but I hope Pep has hammered that team, its unacceptable.
If nothing else we have experience...where are Williamson/Mousinho/Nelson leading that team?
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Post by eighteen93 on Sept 26, 2017 21:22:21 GMT
Yes Bob This is really really worrying there is no backbone and when we lose Saturday and we will,confidence will be rock bottom. I have said it before and will say it again, Pep is a fantastic coach but a poor manager look at his record when he has been no.1 The players he has brought in are not good enough Years ago Oxford Utd had a manager called Bill Asprey. Those in the game used to say he was a fantastic coach and knew the game inside out but he was evidently a terrible manager. I hope this this is not the case now.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 26, 2017 21:23:54 GMT
I asked Pep at the fans forum off record if he was going to get a striker as we should have money to get one and his response to me was, if there is money I haven't seen it! There was never going to be any money to spend once Eales turned down Sartori to wait on a more profitable offer and plunder the transfer income in the meantime. Appleton saw which way the wind was blowing and jumped ship, he has been at desperate clubs before and wanted no part of it again, he also didn't want to tarnish his legacy of three good years here with what he must of guessed would be at best a poor season, at worst one which will end with relegation. Plus the prospect of new owners coming in at some point who would be whoever stumped up the most money not whoever wanted what was best for the club. His talk about leaving to work with top players was nonsense, he went to Leicester not Real Madrid. Clotet is a patsy, the cheap option who promised to work on the cheap and who misguidedly thought he could have some success with older English players dropping down the league who wanted a more local job, added to foreign players who have the worst injury records I have ever seen. Clotet is the Catalonian Gary Waddock, he is in place till we get new owners who will bring in there own man. This ^^
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Post by backonthecoupon on Sept 26, 2017 21:24:31 GMT
Are we all in agreement that this run of terrible form started when we conceded that 94th equaliser against Bradford? It feels like we haven't had an ounce of confidence since. No i think we are finding out that they arent good enough. This feels a lot lile Appys first season but without Ashton and the investment
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Post by upthecowboys on Sept 26, 2017 21:25:22 GMT
Why did we change our transfer policy in the summer? After a couple of years signing prem league cast offs etc
Why have we reverted to signing players with no / limited English league experience?
Why have we signed players who consistently have not played 30+ games in their last few seasons?
Why after a goal scoring / energetic start to the season was Josh Ruffels dropped?
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Post by oxford84 on Sept 26, 2017 21:25:53 GMT
And we continue to concede from wide areas. Any element of trying to deal with Maguire tonight? Essentially did exactly as Otzhumer did on Saturday. He may not show it in public, but I hope Pep has hammered that team, its unacceptable. If nothing else we have experience...where are Williamson/Mousinho/Nelson leading that team? The problem is the tactics of the manager not the players.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 26, 2017 21:26:51 GMT
Worrying how quickly we collapsed after the first. Tbf it looked extremely soft, but what followed was embarrassing. Should also be said that Bury were a lot better than I expected and actually played some decent stuff. We still have a decent squad but we badly need to change system. Bury showed tonight how effective 5-3-2 can be, last few games we've been overran in he middle. The main area that worries me is upfront. Obika looks a good player but isn't going to score many, in the Ryan Taylor mould, apart from that Jheeez Bury would have gone 2nd from bottom if we had beaten them tonight, so to base a system of 5-3-2 or whatever wouldn't be the best comparison. And to say we have a decent squad, please tell me you're joking.
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Post by eighteen93 on Sept 26, 2017 21:27:55 GMT
If nothing else we have experience...where are Williamson/Mousinho/Nelson leading that team? Good question - but having said that, teams seem to be able to get at our back four far too easily for me.
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Post by brassmonkey on Sept 26, 2017 21:28:41 GMT
Why did we change our transfer policy in the summer? After a couple of years signing prem league cast offs etc Why have we reverted to signing players with no / limited English league experience? Why have we signed players who consistently have not played 30+ games in their last few seasons? Why after a goal scoring / energetic start to the season was Josh Ruffels dropped? Why is gvk valued at 800k? Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by eraser on Sept 26, 2017 21:29:38 GMT
Why did we change our transfer policy in the summer? After a couple of years signing prem league cast offs etc Why have we reverted to signing players with no / limited English league experience? Why have we signed players who consistently have not played 30+ games in their last few seasons? Why after a goal scoring / energetic start to the season was Josh Ruffels dropped? Because if you want to sell a football club that doesn't own it's stadium then you need to show reasonably sustainable staff costs v revenue (fleecing fans)
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 26, 2017 21:32:03 GMT
Are we all in agreement that this run of terrible form started when we conceded that 94th equaliser against Bradford? It feels like we haven't had an ounce of confidence since. If so then it's very strange, because the body language and talk coming out after the Bradford game was that we were an amazing side just starting to hit our stride. Our start against Blackpool wasn't lacking in confidence. It was lethargic and complacent, as if the compliments about the Bradford game had gone to the players ' heads.
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Post by oxfordboy on Sept 26, 2017 21:32:52 GMT
And to say we have a decent squad, please tell me you're joking. Outside of a striker what position are we weak at?
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Post by brassmonkey on Sept 26, 2017 21:35:55 GMT
And to say we have a decent squad, please tell me you're joking. Outside of a striker what position are we weak at? Left back, right back, left wing Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by uptheus on Sept 26, 2017 21:37:58 GMT
And we continue to concede from wide areas. Any element of trying to deal with Maguire tonight? Essentially did exactly as Otzhumer did on Saturday. He may not show it in public, but I hope Pep has hammered that team, its unacceptable. If nothing else we have experience...where are Williamson/Mousinho/Nelson leading that team? The problem is the tactics of the manager not the players. Bit of both mate.
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Post by oxford84 on Sept 26, 2017 21:40:14 GMT
The problem is the tactics of the manager not the players. Bit of both mate. Yes,but we know some of the players are good but these players are now looking total shit so I would put the blame at the manager over any player.Im not sure they know what they are supposed to be doing.
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Post by highlights on Sept 26, 2017 21:40:26 GMT
FFS guys calm down. We're 10 games in. I can't even begin to tell you how challenging it is to come in half way through pre-season and establish a winning formula in 10 games. We gave Appleton time, give Pep time. He needs until the end of next month minimum before any primary judgements are in.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 26, 2017 21:40:54 GMT
And to say we have a decent squad, please tell me you're joking. Outside of a striker what position are we weak at? Defensively, creative midfielder, a decent right back, oh and a couple of decent strikers. We signed has beens who are injury prone.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 26, 2017 21:44:17 GMT
FFS guys calm down. We're 10 games in. I can't even begin to tell you how challenging it is to come in half way through pre-season and establish a winning formula in 10 games. We gave Appleton time, give Pep time. He needs until the end of next month minimum before any primary judgements are in. Shrewsbury have managed with a new team so why couldn’t we?
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Post by eraser on Sept 26, 2017 21:46:39 GMT
And we continue to concede from wide areas. Any element of trying to deal with Maguire tonight? Essentially did exactly as Otzhumer did on Saturday. He may not show it in public, but I hope Pep has hammered that team, its unacceptable. If nothing else we have experience...where are Williamson/Mousinho/Nelson leading that team? The problem is the tactics of the manager not the players. Agree - put your square pegs in square holes. Stop playing centre halves at full back and play with 3 centre halves and build off that! In the last 3 games we looked most dangerous at Blackpool in the second half when Pep on that occasion almost played players in their natural positions
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Post by brassmonkey on Sept 26, 2017 21:47:25 GMT
FFS guys calm down. We're 10 games in. I can't even begin to tell you how challenging it is to come in half way through pre-season and establish a winning formula in 10 games. We gave Appleton time, give Pep time. He needs until the end of next month minimum before any primary judgements are in. We had a winning formulae. However it was ripped up in the summer and replaced with pish. Both eels and pep have to shoulder the blame. Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 21:47:53 GMT
PEP looks to have lost the dressing room. Some of the players he's brought in look out of their depth an he hasn't developed the likes of Jack Payne.he was awesome against Portsmouth. Gino was too. If we have a good team as has been mentioned why are they leaking goals like soup in a basket?
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