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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2017 10:09:25 GMT
Arhhh yeah that right mr Grenoble (I take it we're calling u that instead of the Kassam). 😉 Darryl being super human has never made a mistake or a wrong decision or said something that he regretted. I'll give u 2 from his own mouth The handling of flag gate. The way he dealt with firoz, thinking it would have been better to sit down and thrash it out over a glass of wine. For me he has made two mistakes that have lead to this questioning. Getting rid of mark Ashton And Making press statements without thinking them through, leading to contradiction and questioning Also was a consensus at a birthday gathering an a (very) select South Oxfordshire hostelry last night that dickering about with saying this then that about budgets in particular and not knowing what somebody's plans actually were had perhaps de-stabilised what had previously been a happy ship. But no. He got us promoted so he's perfick. And my feet are lovely and warm. I bet that from those very comfy wool loafers
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 23, 2017 12:06:08 GMT
We call them slippers
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2017 12:35:43 GMT
Sounds like a nickname you would get from Eton or sandhurst
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 23, 2017 12:44:57 GMT
The manager has a very different to view on signing players.
Having a full weeks worth of training will kick the team on. No game preparation, no travel, just 4/5 days on the training pitch to integrate the new players in.
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Post by radicalox on Jul 23, 2017 13:10:13 GMT
Few on this thread claiming DE said he wasn't going to sign any more players. I find that surprising give it contradicts that we have trialists in recent friendlies.
When, and to whom did he say this? Source?
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 23, 2017 14:39:44 GMT
Few on this thread claiming DE said he wasn't going to sign any more players. I find that surprising give it contradicts that we have trialists in recent friendlies. When, and to whom did he say this? Source? That's a good question and I was wondering the same myself. The only thing I can find is the interview Pep did with Jerome before the Brum game (you can listen to this - Summer Saturday Sport with Danny Cox RadOx on i player about 46 mins in) Listening to the interview it's not very clear but I think Pep says he doesn't think there will be any changes re new players before the Brum game, I think he was saying that there was nothing in the pipeline after that, but things change in football quite quickly, but as I said it's not clear. Sounds as if we can expect a couple of young loan players at some time, but Pep is more concerned about working with the current squad this week. I got the feeling that Pep was dampening down expectations, certainly in regard to signings. Others may listen to the interview and come to a different conclusion of course.
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Post by osleroad on Jul 23, 2017 15:47:15 GMT
Few on this thread claiming DE said he wasn't going to sign any more players. I find that surprising give it contradicts that we have trialists in recent friendlies. When, and to whom did he say this? Source? That's a good question and I was wondering the same myself. The only thing I can find is the interview Pep did with Jerome before the Brum game (you can listen to this - Summer Saturday Sport with Danny Cox RadOx on i player about 46 mins in) Listening to the interview it's not very clear but I think Pep says he doesn't think there will be any changes re new players before the Brum game, I think he was saying that there was nothing in the pipeline after that, but things change in football quite quickly, but as I said it's not clear. Sounds as if we can expect a couple of young loan players at some time, but Pep is more concerned about working with the current squad this week. I got the feeling that Pep was dampening down expectations, certainly in regard to signings. Others may listen to the interview and come to a different conclusion of course. Yes that is what Pep said ...nothing before the Brum game although you never know as that is football..sometimes I wonder if we all speak English as the misinterpretations flying about are often little crazy
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 23, 2017 19:07:03 GMT
That's a good question and I was wondering the same myself. The only thing I can find is the interview Pep did with Jerome before the Brum game (you can listen to this - Summer Saturday Sport with Danny Cox RadOx on i player about 46 mins in) Listening to the interview it's not very clear but I think Pep says he doesn't think there will be any changes re new players before the Brum game, I think he was saying that there was nothing in the pipeline after that, but things change in football quite quickly, but as I said it's not clear. Sounds as if we can expect a couple of young loan players at some time, but Pep is more concerned about working with the current squad this week. I got the feeling that Pep was dampening down expectations, certainly in regard to signings. Others may listen to the interview and come to a different conclusion of course. Yes that is what Pep said ...nothing before the Brum game although you never know as that is football..sometimes I wonder if we all speak English as the misinterpretations flying about are often little crazy I may have got this wrong but it would appear that Pep said the above on a radio interview, someone hears the interview then posts on these boards that Darryl has said there will be no more signings, two or three other posters then repeat this and suddenly it's fact. To be fair I've criticised Darryl in the past for poor communication at times, but I don't think he's actually said there will be no more signings.
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Post by yellowbow on Jul 23, 2017 19:15:28 GMT
What would the general consensus of opinion be if there were no more signings I wonder? Personally I think if we are fortunate with injuries we have a competant squad that are capable of holding their own in league 1. Probably not good enough to challenge for promotion but too good to go down.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 23, 2017 19:29:18 GMT
Eales never said there wouldn't be any more signings. He said that there would be one after returning from Portugal (Xemi) and after that Pep will review the squad and see what is needed if anything. This is basically saying that it will be up to Pep if there is any more signings or not.
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 23, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
What would the general consensus of opinion be if there were no more signings I wonder? Personally I think if we are fortunate with injuries we have a competant squad that are capable of holding their own in league 1. Probably not good enough to challenge for promotion but too good to go down. If we don't sign a quality LB and striker, then we are looking at a relegation fight, if we get the usual injuries. If we don't spend any money, then eales will be held account for the large increase in S/T prices. Basically where is the promised larger budget?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2017 19:39:09 GMT
What would the general consensus of opinion be if there were no more signings I wonder? Personally I think if we are fortunate with injuries we have a competant squad that are capable of holding their own in league 1. Probably not good enough to challenge for promotion but too good to go down. My main worry in that would be goals. Unless u can get hemmings firing then we don't have many goals in the side, Thomas has only had one good season. Johno, hall and Henry will get u a few but would be surprised if that hit 30 between them. We need to replace maguire and McAleny's goals. Think we're strong enough at the back in midfield, a left back would be nice as it frees probably our main attacking threat, to get balls in the box
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 23, 2017 19:40:26 GMT
What would the general consensus of opinion be if there were no more signings I wonder? Personally I think if we are fortunate with injuries we have a competant squad that are capable of holding their own in league 1. Probably not good enough to challenge for promotion but too good to go down. If we don't sign a quality LB and striker, then we are looking at a relegation fight, if we get the usual injuries. if we don't spend any money, then eales will be held account for the large increase in S/T prices. Basically where is the promised larger budget? So you think even though from last years team which finished 8th of Eastwood, Nelson, Raglan, Johnson, Hall, Ledson, Ruffles and Hemmings, with the added players such as Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll who are all more than capable of league 1 football we will suddenly be in a relegation fight. Add in the experience of Tendali, unknown Xemi, unproven Napa, Roberts and Long. Plus a couple of loan players then I think we will be far away from a relegation fight. This meltdown that is currently going on amongst some fans is confusing and slightly embarrassing. I get fans like stability and don't like the unknown but isn't that what makes following lower league football interesting. Give me a change in manager, selling your captain, not resigning your top scorer, signing some unknown player from spain and pissing of your rivals by signing one of their strikers over supporting a club like Stoke City or West Brom where the only ambition is to get to 40 points any day.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Jul 23, 2017 19:59:12 GMT
If we don't sign a quality LB and striker, then we are looking at a relegation fight, if we get the usual injuries. if we don't spend any money, then eales will be held account for the large increase in S/T prices. Basically where is the promised larger budget? So you think even though from last years team which finished 8th of Eastwood, Nelson, Raglan, Johnson, Hall, Ledson, Ruffles and Hemmings, with the added players such as Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll who are all more than capable of league 1 football we will suddenly be in a relegation fight. Add in the experience of Tendali, unknown Xemi, unproven Napa, Roberts and Long. Plus a couple of loan players then I think we will be far away from a relegation fight. This meltdown that is currently going on amongst some fans is confusing and slightly embarrassing. I get fans like stability and don't like the unknown but isn't that what makes following lower league football interesting. Give me a change in manager, selling your captain, not resigning your top scorer, signing some unknown player from spain and pissing of your rivals by signing one of their strikers over supporting a club like Stoke City or West Brom where the only ambition is to get to 40 points any day. Perfectly put, i think people look for any excuse to complain after losing a friendly against a CHAMPIONSHIP team. Bristol Rovers lost to FGR yesterday and i bet there fans ain't half as worried as some on here.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 23, 2017 20:08:08 GMT
So you think even though from last years team which finished 8th of Eastwood, Nelson, Raglan, Johnson, Hall, Ledson, Ruffles and Hemmings, with the added players such as Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll who are all more than capable of league 1 football we will suddenly be in a relegation fight. Add in the experience of Tendali, unknown Xemi, unproven Napa, Roberts and Long. Plus a couple of loan players then I think we will be far away from a relegation fight. This meltdown that is currently going on amongst some fans is confusing and slightly embarrassing. I get fans like stability and don't like the unknown but isn't that what makes following lower league football interesting. Give me a change in manager, selling your captain, not resigning your top scorer, signing some unknown player from spain and pissing of your rivals by signing one of their strikers over supporting a club like Stoke City or West Brom where the only ambition is to get to 40 points any day. Perfectly put, i think people look for any excuse to complain after losing a friendly against a CHAMPIONSHIP team. Bristol Rovers lost to FGR yesterday and i bet there fans ain't half as worried as some on here. But we do need a quality striker not just so he can score goals in the high teens but also to complement whom he may play alongside.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Jul 23, 2017 20:19:01 GMT
Perfectly put, i think people look for any excuse to complain after losing a friendly against a CHAMPIONSHIP team. Bristol Rovers lost to FGR yesterday and i bet there fans ain't half as worried as some on here. But we do need a quality striker not just so he can score goals in the high teens but also to complement whom he may play alongside. Oh i 100% agree the squad isn't yet complete. I just believe there's enough time for us to get the players we need. I think We could be holding out for the premier league season to start to see what we can snap from there academies as some of the older and better reputation players in the academies could drop down to get first team mens football. We didn't sign Ledson until mid August because he wanted to leave for First team football and i reckon we could get a few more like that. Admittedly not an ideal situation but it seems like it fits our model...
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 23, 2017 20:59:54 GMT
If we don't sign a quality LB and striker, then we are looking at a relegation fight, if we get the usual injuries. if we don't spend any money, then eales will be held account for the large increase in S/T prices. Basically where is the promised larger budget? So you think even though from last years team which finished 8th of Eastwood, Nelson, Raglan, Johnson, Hall, Ledson, Ruffles and Hemmings, with the added players such as Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll who are all more than capable of league 1 football we will suddenly be in a relegation fight. Add in the experience of Tendali, unknown Xemi, unproven Napa, Roberts and Long. Plus a couple of loan players then I think we will be far away from a relegation fight. This meltdown that is currently going on amongst some fans is confusing and slightly embarrassing. I get fans like stability and don't like the unknown but isn't that what makes following lower league football interesting. Give me a change in manager, selling your captain, not resigning your top scorer, signing some unknown player from spain and pissing of your rivals by signing one of their strikers over supporting a club like Stoke City or West Brom where the only ambition is to get to 40 points any day. If you read the thread properly, I said if we had injuries. How do you know how well, Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll are going to do over a season in league 1? Napa, Roberts are unlikely to play in the first 11, certainly not Roberts, who is conference south standard at best. Would you genuinely put him even on the bench? The youth players are possibly for the future, not for a promotion push.
Also why are we talking about loans when we still need 3/4 of our own players in to complete the squad.
There is a lot of unknown in the small squad currently, we desperately need a proven striker and left back. I'm not panicking, we have money to spend and spend it we will.
You think we will be far away from relegation, but can you honestly see the size and quality of squad we have pushing for promotion, which should be the natural progression after finishing so close last season?
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 23, 2017 21:34:01 GMT
So you think even though from last years team which finished 8th of Eastwood, Nelson, Raglan, Johnson, Hall, Ledson, Ruffles and Hemmings, with the added players such as Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll who are all more than capable of league 1 football we will suddenly be in a relegation fight. Add in the experience of Tendali, unknown Xemi, unproven Napa, Roberts and Long. Plus a couple of loan players then I think we will be far away from a relegation fight. This meltdown that is currently going on amongst some fans is confusing and slightly embarrassing. I get fans like stability and don't like the unknown but isn't that what makes following lower league football interesting. Give me a change in manager, selling your captain, not resigning your top scorer, signing some unknown player from spain and pissing of your rivals by signing one of their strikers over supporting a club like Stoke City or West Brom where the only ambition is to get to 40 points any day. If you read the thread properly, I said if we had injuries. How do you know how well, Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll are going to do over a season in league 1? Napa, Roberts are unlikely to play in the first 11, certainly not Roberts, who is conference south standard at best. Would you genuinely put him even on the bench? The youth players are possibly for the future, not for a promotion push.
Also why are we talking about loans when we still need 3/4 of our own players in to complete the squad.
There is a lot of unknown in the small squad currently, we desperately need a proven striker and left back. I'm not panicking, we have money to spend and spend it we will.
You think we will be far away from relegation, but can you honestly see the size and quality of squad we have pushing for promotion, which should be the natural progression after finishing so close last season?
Thomas will be a good player at this level if fit as will Obika. Henry has proved he is more than good enough at this level with 3 promotions. The young players are squad players which has always been the case for clubs our size. I mention loan players because that is the model of this club to get a couple of young loan players in. If we get season long loans then they are our players for the season. Promotion would be a natural progression if MApp had stayed but he didn't do we now have to accept that this season might be another mid table finish with possibly an outside chance of play offs (although we are 3rd favourite with the bookies to make the playoffs). You might say you aren't panicking but when you talk about relegation battles then you can see why some would think you are pressing the panic button. The transfer window is open until the end of august. Before that we have a good enough squad to start the season with IMO.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jul 23, 2017 22:43:23 GMT
Thomas will be a good player at this level if fit... Well he will score 10-12 in a league season. That is his record fairly consistently over his career. Hoping that (at his age) he is suddenly going to have the striker's equivalent of a growth spurt is optimistic. We can hope, I suppose! The other problem with Thomas (or rather with the squad) is that his role is very similar to that of Hemmings - put the ball in from close range. Someone needs to be there to do it, but you don't want two of them on the pitch at the same time. Of course Obika may he be perfect foil for either Hemmings and Thomas, but on his own he too scores about once every four games (judging by his record at the Skip). I hesitate to use the phrase 'injury prone' but both Thomas and Obika seem a little delicate (!), so relying on both of them to stay fit through the season is again optimistic. We need another striker. A good one. At least one. And we need a left back to free Johnson up to make the crosses for the strikers to score from. We don't need any more central defenders or older players who haven't kicked a ball for months (or years).
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Post by makv on Jul 23, 2017 23:49:53 GMT
Just a point. Luciano has had a serious ligament injury. His older brother has no history of serious injuries. Injury prone then?
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Post by makv on Jul 23, 2017 23:53:28 GMT
Is that for the benefit of the Leicester scouts?
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Post by makv on Jul 24, 2017 0:11:02 GMT
That's a very good & fair assessment OUFC28. Obika is not fit & carrying too much weight but hopefully they will get him in the gym; Tiendali also looks over weight & off the pace. Johnson oodles better in second half when in the right position. Rob Hall - as someone has said offer him an improved contract - quick! Good to here positive things about Hall. Really enjoyed watching him in the OCFC game.
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 24, 2017 7:10:46 GMT
If you read the thread properly, I said if we had injuries. How do you know how well, Henry, Thomas, Ribeiro, Obikia and Carroll are going to do over a season in league 1? Napa, Roberts are unlikely to play in the first 11, certainly not Roberts, who is conference south standard at best. Would you genuinely put him even on the bench? The youth players are possibly for the future, not for a promotion push.
Also why are we talking about loans when we still need 3/4 of our own players in to complete the squad.
There is a lot of unknown in the small squad currently, we desperately need a proven striker and left back. I'm not panicking, we have money to spend and spend it we will.
You think we will be far away from relegation, but can you honestly see the size and quality of squad we have pushing for promotion, which should be the natural progression after finishing so close last season?
Thomas will be a good player at this level if fit as will Obika. Henry has proved he is more than good enough at this level with 3 promotions. The young players are squad players which has always been the case for clubs our size. I mention loan players because that is the model of this club to get a couple of young loan players in. If we get season long loans then they are our players for the season. Promotion would be a natural progression if MApp had stayed but he didn't do we now have to accept that this season might be another mid table finish with possibly an outside chance of play offs (although we are 3rd favourite with the bookies to make the playoffs). You might say you aren't panicking but when you talk about relegation battles then you can see why some would think you are pressing the panic button. The transfer window is open until the end of august. Before that we have a good enough squad to start the season with IMO. We'll see in two weeks how the squad shape up. We need a striker and left back as a minimum I think before we ok at loans
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Post by dubaiyellow on Jul 24, 2017 7:34:06 GMT
Thomas will be a good player at this level if fit as will Obika. Henry has proved he is more than good enough at this level with 3 promotions. The young players are squad players which has always been the case for clubs our size. I mention loan players because that is the model of this club to get a couple of young loan players in. If we get season long loans then they are our players for the season. Promotion would be a natural progression if MApp had stayed but he didn't do we now have to accept that this season might be another mid table finish with possibly an outside chance of play offs (although we are 3rd favourite with the bookies to make the playoffs). You might say you aren't panicking but when you talk about relegation battles then you can see why some would think you are pressing the panic button. The transfer window is open until the end of august. Before that we have a good enough squad to start the season with IMO. We'll see in two weeks how the squad shape up. We need a striker and left back as a minimum I think before we ok at loans Not the best reports on him i know but I have a feeling we will sign Raheem Hanley at LB. Had a little read up on him and it would seem he has potential but maybe his attitude has let him down. Might be a hidden gem (along with a few of our other signings of late!)
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 24, 2017 7:55:28 GMT
Is that for the benefit of the Leicester scouts? 1st half he was 2nd half on his preferred position much improved.
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Post by horseman on Jul 24, 2017 8:05:31 GMT
The departed manager kept insisting on playing him at left back then prior to his departure was talking of him being a main striker To continue playing him at left back is playing into the opposition hands instead of to your own strengths. friendlies give opportunity to try different things formations etc so cannot understand the need to start him there again.
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Post by foley on Jul 24, 2017 9:02:44 GMT
We'll see in two weeks how the squad shape up. We need a striker and left back as a minimum I think before we ok at loans Not the best reports on him i know but I have a feeling we will sign Raheem Hanley at LB. Had a little read up on him and it would seem he has potential but maybe his attitude has let him down. Might be a hidden gem (along with a few of our other signings of late!) I thought that on Saturday Hanley looked very quick (he almost kept up with Johnson). A couple of times he got other defenders out of trouble with his pace. He looked to overlap a lot and liked getting forwards. Negative? He is pretty short. I know that you don't need to necessarily be tall to be a full back, but against the Wimbledon's of this world they would target him and have a tall wide man on the right for when they pump balls into the box.
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Post by foley on Jul 24, 2017 9:04:41 GMT
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Post by dubaiyellow on Jul 24, 2017 9:20:27 GMT
Not the best reports on him i know but I have a feeling we will sign Raheem Hanley at LB. Had a little read up on him and it would seem he has potential but maybe his attitude has let him down. Might be a hidden gem (along with a few of our other signings of late!) I thought that on Saturday Hanley looked very quick (he almost kept up with Johnson). A couple of times he got other defenders out of trouble with his pace. He looked to overlap a lot and liked getting forwards. Negative? He is pretty short. I know that you don't need to necessarily be tall to be a full back, but against the Wimbledon's of this world they would target him and have a tall wide man on the right for when they pump balls into the box. Hmmm, food for thought, its all a balancing act, if he brings out the best in Johnson, id take the gamble and let him and Tiendalli battle it out. At least Elliot (Wimbledon) wont be that guy this season. Hes gone to Millwall hasnt he?. Should imagine him and Morrison are going to scare the life out of a few Championship defenders this season. Scary thought those two coming at you.
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Post by arthurturner on Jul 24, 2017 9:29:08 GMT
I like Tiendalli's comment in the OM regarding the game against Birmingham : "We put a lot of crosses in but no one was there". Pretty much sums up where we're at.
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