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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 6:13:08 GMT
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Post by madox80 on Jul 26, 2017 6:13:08 GMT
BBC Radio Oxford said on the 06:30 sports news that the undisclosed fee is believed to be just north of 500k.
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Post by osleroad on Jul 26, 2017 7:09:25 GMT
I expect useful/wishful thinking add ons ..appearances/promotion to premier league
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Post by horseman on Jul 26, 2017 7:09:55 GMT
Not a great deal or "attractive" deal in todays market for a well sought after club captain imho doesn't matter the length of contract in football nowadays anyway they may as well be scrapped across the whole game, they want security of that extra year when they join but players just move when they feel like it anyway.
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Post by essexyellows on Jul 26, 2017 7:13:16 GMT
I dislike "undisclosed fees".........mostly because somebody then discloses them...whats the point? £550k is a fair return. He`s done his job, learnt & moved on...same as any of us would and probably have. Thank you & goodbye.
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Post by Junior on Jul 26, 2017 7:17:11 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay.
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Post by holdsteady on Jul 26, 2017 7:21:24 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay. Promotion bonus? We would of been better off asking for an extra quid and buying a lottery ticket.
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Post by Junior on Jul 26, 2017 7:23:50 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions.
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 7:25:36 GMT
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 26, 2017 7:25:36 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay. So we think Sheffield united have what chance of promotion in next couple of years? 1 per cent? 2 per cent? Might as well not have bothered with those clauses - not worth the lawyers fees!
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Post by foley on Jul 26, 2017 7:27:56 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay. So we think Sheffield united have what chance of promotion in next couple of years? 1 per cent? 2 per cent? Might as well not have bothered with those clauses - not worth the lawyers fees! Agree but the sell on clause may well be worth something
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Post by bigronaldo on Jul 26, 2017 7:31:50 GMT
I suppose an undisclosed fee could mean that we can still play hard ball in negotiations for other players? without them knowing we have a wad of cash in our pocket, we are less likely to pay inflated fees for players. Hey, I hate undisclosed fees too, but I am in the positivity bus waving madly, so what can you do??
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 7:38:26 GMT
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 26, 2017 7:38:26 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Junior I don't think you have any idea how competitive the championship is these days. The few million quid Sheffield united have to spend is piddling besides the big units in that league. That's why chippy has been reduced to fishing in the lower leagues for almost all his signings on small undisclosed fees. Personally I'm sad to see him go for what is hardly a knock-out price. He was one of our 5 or 6 obviously quality players, and - increasingly - had become a leader of that squad. This stuff about lower league players forcing moves is balls. They're in nowhere near that position of strength (unlike top premier league stars). Who would Lunny be in six months if he spat his dummy and trained with the youths? No-one would be interested and he'd have a black mark for attitude. I guess if we go and spend two lots of 250k on progressive players it might look the right move in a few months time, so let's wait and see!
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Post by horseman on Jul 26, 2017 7:50:22 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Junior I don't think you have any idea how competitive the championship is these days. The few million quid Sheffield united have to spend is piddling besides the big units in that league. That's why chippy has been reduced to fishing in the lower leagues for almost all his signings on small undisclosed fees. Personally I'm sad to see him go for what is hardly a knock-out price. He was one of our 5 or 6 obviously quality players, and - increasingly - had become a leader of that squad. This stuff about lower league players forcing moves is balls. They're in nowhere near that position of strength (unlike top premier league stars). Who would Lunny be in six months if he spat his dummy and trained with the youths? No-one would be interested and he'd have a black mark for attitude. I guess if we go and spend two lots of 250k on progressive players it might look the right move in a few months time, so let's wait and see! Fair point but when you consider we apparently bid 300/500k for Lindsay who had one decent season at Partick but was relatively an unknown quantity it makes lunny look a absolute steal but that's just my opinion.
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Post by MJB on Jul 26, 2017 7:53:01 GMT
So who is Vice-Captain now then? Williamson might be an obvious choice (although not certain) - perhaps Ledson to start getting him early experience of the job?
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Post by The Fence End on Jul 26, 2017 8:21:03 GMT
Do we need a vice captain?
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 8:25:07 GMT
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Post by Pep out on Jul 26, 2017 8:25:07 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Aston Villa have already spent more on John Terry's wages then Sheffield United have spent on this deal. They will do well to stay up.
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Post by dorsetyelloww on Jul 26, 2017 8:26:13 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Junior I don't think you have any idea how competitive the championship is these days. The few million quid Sheffield united have to spend is piddling besides the big units in that league. That's why chippy has been reduced to fishing in the lower leagues for almost all his signings on small undisclosed fees. Personally I'm sad to see him go for what is hardly a knock-out price. He was one of our 5 or 6 obviously quality players, and - increasingly - had become a leader of that squad. This stuff about lower league players forcing moves is balls. They're in nowhere near that position of strength (unlike top premier league stars). Who would Lunny be in six months if he spat his dummy and trained with the youths? No-one would be interested and he'd have a black mark for attitude. I guess if we go and spend two lots of 250k on progressive players it might look the right move in a few months time, so let's wait and see! O'Dowda forced his move though didn't he?
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 26, 2017 8:32:01 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay. So we think Sheffield united have what chance of promotion in next couple of years? 1 per cent? 2 per cent? Might as well not have bothered with those clauses - not worth the lawyers fees! Market price approx 9/1 for promotion so a few quid to made for you Charlie if you that they are that over-priced. For what it's worth I think Sheff Utd were far better than most league 1 champions and most models seem to agree. Would be surprised to see them out of the top half.
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 26, 2017 8:33:05 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Aston Villa have already spent more on John Terry's wages then Sheffield United have spent on this deal. They will do well to stay up. The first part of that post doesn't follow the second!
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Post by malcolmnl on Jul 26, 2017 8:39:26 GMT
Aston Villa have already spent more on John Terry's wages then Sheffield United have spent on this deal. They will do well to stay up. The first part of that post doesn't follow the second! That's because the first part always comes before the seond part. Otherwise the first part would e the second part. Okay, Im leaving. (it's too hot for a coat)
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Post by foley on Jul 26, 2017 8:48:42 GMT
Tbf, I think they will go for this season. They have a fair bit of £££ to chuck about and they already have a squad that will see them survive comfortably in the championship without any additions. Aston Villa have already spent more on John Terry's wages then Sheffield United have spent on this deal. They will do well to stay up. I reckon that yo would get decent odds on them going down if you think that way. I would say that they have a 5% chance of going down. They won League 1 by a canter despite losing their first 4 games. So a team by far the best in League 1 who I reckon have spent pretty well (Baldock a very good signing). Burton stayed up last season! I reckon half way or there or there about.
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Post by Junior on Jul 26, 2017 9:10:27 GMT
Just because you can spend a load of cash, doesn't mean you will go up! Look at Villa, Derby last season. Then look what Huddersfield did.
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 26, 2017 9:25:52 GMT
Junior I don't think you have any idea how competitive the championship is these days. The few million quid Sheffield united have to spend is piddling besides the big units in that league. That's why chippy has been reduced to fishing in the lower leagues for almost all his signings on small undisclosed fees. Personally I'm sad to see him go for what is hardly a knock-out price. He was one of our 5 or 6 obviously quality players, and - increasingly - had become a leader of that squad. This stuff about lower league players forcing moves is balls. They're in nowhere near that position of strength (unlike top premier league stars). Who would Lunny be in six months if he spat his dummy and trained with the youths? No-one would be interested and he'd have a black mark for attitude. I guess if we go and spend two lots of 250k on progressive players it might look the right move in a few months time, so let's wait and see! O'Dowda forced his move though didn't he? Hmmmm. What do you think would have happened if OUFC had simply turned down the approach and ordered him into training once his "illness" was over? Let's put it this way, I don't think that OUFC is altogether upset when a club comes in and offers money for a player. It is then - and I speak as a PR man here, so praising not criticising - very much the right thing for OUFC to do to ascribe the player leaving to "we couldn't stand in his way", as opposed to "frankly, we were delighted to get some cash into the bank at a slow time of year"....
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 26, 2017 9:33:30 GMT
Just because you can spend a load of cash, doesn't mean you will go up! Look at Villa, Derby last season. Then look what Huddersfield did. Newcastle and Brighton were two of the top three spenders in that league, though.... And Sheffield United and Bolton were the top two spenders in our league And Portsmouth and Doncaster were the top two spenders in League 2. It is entirely disingenuous to suggest that spending is not linked to success. There are outliers in both directions, of course there are, but they are very much the exceptions that prove the rule. The interesting thing from OUFC's point of view is that having raked in a huge amount of cash over the summer, we could be both break-even AND in the top 6 spenders in the league, coming off a season in which the club made a profit! As DE has said, it's a wonderful financial situation to be in. So we should be looking forward to some pretty exciting signings in coming weeks, given that the sale of Lunny wasn't planned, and nor was MApp's departure. Take those two into account plus the Roofe and COD million plus that DE has spoken about, and there shoudl be £2 million sloshing around in the OUFC coffers. Happy days!
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Post by iambungle on Jul 26, 2017 10:04:10 GMT
O'Dowda forced his move though didn't he? Hmmmm. What do you think would have happened if OUFC had simply turned down the approach and ordered him into training once his "illness" was over? Let's put it this way, I don't think that OUFC is altogether upset when a club comes in and offers money for a player. It is then - and I speak as a PR man here, so praising not criticising - very much the right thing for OUFC to do to ascribe the player leaving to "we couldn't stand in his way", as opposed to "frankly, we were delighted to get some cash into the bank at a slow time of year".... Well our 'model' has been to take young players who haven't quite 'made it', give them an opportunity to establish themselves and then 'not stand in their way' when a big club, or club higher up the leagues comes in for them. So if we stood in CODs way isn't it possible the Marv & Ledson might not have signed for us?
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 10:17:38 GMT
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Post by beyondthefourth on Jul 26, 2017 10:17:38 GMT
Heard it was closer to 600k with promotion and sell bonus for us. That's what caused the delay. So we think Sheffield united have what chance of promotion in next couple of years? 1 per cent? 2 per cent? Might as well not have bothered with those clauses - not worth the lawyers fees! Does it count if they get relegated and promoted from L1 again?
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 11:07:19 GMT
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 26, 2017 11:07:19 GMT
Hmmmm. What do you think would have happened if OUFC had simply turned down the approach and ordered him into training once his "illness" was over? Let's put it this way, I don't think that OUFC is altogether upset when a club comes in and offers money for a player. It is then - and I speak as a PR man here, so praising not criticising - very much the right thing for OUFC to do to ascribe the player leaving to "we couldn't stand in his way", as opposed to "frankly, we were delighted to get some cash into the bank at a slow time of year".... Well our 'model' has been to take young players who haven't quite 'made it', give them an opportunity to establish themselves and then 'not stand in their way' when a big club, or club higher up the leagues comes in for them. So if we stood in CODs way isn't it possible the Marv & Ledson might not have signed for us? Its an interesting point. When we sign players, do we say 'we are an ambitious club going places and want to build a team for the championship.' Or do we say 'dont worry about us selling our best players all the time. That's what it's all about - we might never go up but it'll be a good platform for YOU to progress.' There were slightly mixed messages on this from day one. Ashton said that we were going to build one team that would take us from league 2 to championship. Ironically, we were probably not far off doing that. Leaving aside goalkeeper, baldock, Wright, dunkley, skarz, cod, lundstram, servombe, MacDonald, roofe, Maguire, managed by Mapp would be a damned hot team in this league!! They've now ALL gone, for combined transfer fees of about 4.5 million, pre add-ons. Hats off to Ashton - that was quite some playing side that he pulled together. It has paid in full for DE's entire expenditure to date!
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Post by Junior on Jul 26, 2017 11:42:33 GMT
Well our 'model' has been to take young players who haven't quite 'made it', give them an opportunity to establish themselves and then 'not stand in their way' when a big club, or club higher up the leagues comes in for them. So if we stood in CODs way isn't it possible the Marv & Ledson might not have signed for us? Its an interesting point. When we sign players, do we say 'we are an ambitious club going places and want to build a team for the championship.' Or do we say 'dont worry about us selling our best players all the time. That's what it's all about - we might never go up but it'll be a good platform for YOU to progress.' There were slightly mixed messages on this from day one. Ashton said that we were going to build one team that would take us from league 2 to championship. Ironically, we were probably not far off doing that. Leaving aside goalkeeper, baldock, Wright, dunkley, skarz, cod, lundstram, servombe, MacDonald, roofe, Maguire, managed by Mapp would be a damned hot team in this league!! They've now ALL gone, for combined transfer fees of about 4.5 million, pre add-ons. Hats off to Ashton - that was quite some playing side that he pulled together. It has paid in full for DE's entire expenditure to date! From all those players and manager only Skarz, McDonald & Sercombe would still be here (if the club wanted them) The rest decided to leave for a number of different reasons. For me, out model is very good and it's attractive to both players and managers. They know they'll be decently paid, players regularly. Have decent training and sports science stuff. Also the pre & post match stuff is well looked after. As you'll know, that's not always the case for L1 clubs. After all that, should they perform, they know the club won't stand in their way once a higher places team comes calling. The club also hopefully use the money sensibly, invest wisely and reduce the club debt where possible.. Just imagine if all that happened and we also had a healthy stadium along with advertising & catering deal with all the income vining to Oufc...
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 26, 2017 11:43:22 GMT
Interesting stat posted by Kernow Yellow on the rageonline forum.
Now that Lundstram has departed we now have no one left from the famous FA Cup win against Swansea.
Team Sam Slocombe George Baldock John Mullins Jake Wright Joe Skarz Alex MacDonald ( Callum O'Dowda ) 1 Liam Sercombe John Lundstram Chris Maguire 2 Kemar Roofe ( Patrick Hoban ) Ryan Taylor
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Post by backonthecoupon on Jul 26, 2017 11:46:48 GMT
We need a playmaker now. Is Xemi the answer or is it too soon for him?
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Lundstram
Jul 26, 2017 11:59:08 GMT
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Post by outsidethebox on Jul 26, 2017 11:59:08 GMT
Jeez, you northern folk don't actually believe what's written in the local rag!! To be honest, generally no - the Sheffield Star is up there with the very worst local rags. Happy to be proven wrong if you can show a different confirmed amount that hasn't come from a wannabe ITKer. Re Sheffield Star: that's quite a comment from a local Blade who has presumably experienced the Oxford Fail!
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