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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 7, 2017 22:42:41 GMT
For someone who doesn't care about history, he does still seem to hold a grudge against us. Maybe we should have erected a statue or something
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Post by unification on Mar 7, 2017 22:43:40 GMT
A bit of context - since the start of 2015-16 we've played 108 matches and have only lost 25 of them. Only one of those defeats has been more than two goals. That's good going generally. No shame in losing to this lot tonight. They're champions elect and we fought to the end as we always do. That's pretty amazing. Is that league games only? League and Cup. So the defeats to Brighton, Blackburn etc are included. It's a huge number of games and a low fraction of defeats. Only 8 league defeats last season certainly helps that figure.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 7, 2017 22:57:43 GMT
Johnson's starting to act like the big I am. Some of his play and passes were extremely poor/cocky, as was Lundstrum, back to his early season antics. I strongly believe MApp has psychologically convinced the players that it's impossible to play two games a week and you can see the players starting to believe it. Shame really as I feel the players could have achieved the play offs, but mentally they now look gone.
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Post by captainox on Mar 7, 2017 23:05:24 GMT
Are some people really getting riled up about Wilder's celebrations?
Has done the kiss the badge thing multiple times this season already. I have a Sheff Utd supporting mate who repeatedly goes on about it.
His boyhood side have just come from behind to extend their lead at the top. Of course he is going to be excited and delighted. I'd wager a fair amount that he would have done the same thing regardless of who they played tonight, if they won in that way.
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Post by MJB on Mar 7, 2017 23:06:52 GMT
He knew exactly what he was doing. Do you think he goes skipping over to his fans, punching his badge like that, every game? A very good manager but a very odd, insecure man it seems. Yeah, you're right that it was most likely deliberately timed but at the same time, who cares? Still minor and not worth getting riled by in my view. 12 games left to get to the playoffs, it looks a tough ask but it's not over til it's over. Onto Peterborough. That's worth caring about. You're right of course and I have to say I wasn't in the least bit riled. I was clapping our players and had wondered if Wilder might walk over or acknowledge the home fans - I certainly would have clapped him as I thought he was good for our club and he has clearly been a great success at his two subsequent clubs. When he started making jestures I just shrugged and felt a bit sad that he clearly is very thin skinned and still has some insecurities related to his reputation here with some. Ah well. Like you say, not anything to lose sleep over.
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Post by bigronaldo on Mar 7, 2017 23:09:16 GMT
A better performance tonight was not enough to blunt a blades side that were very hard-working and could play a bit too. With the exception of a couple of thunderous runs from Marvin, We seemed to lose our industriousness a little second half and they gradually ground us down. Hemmings and mcAleny worked hard, but there were few open chances to exploit. Sheffield united however took their chances when they came and looked a half decent, and physical, well balanced side. We just have to take it on the chin and put this disappointment behind us. Undoubtedly, promotion has got a whole lot harder, but its amazing what can happen if we can get just a few more wins.
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Post by scotchegg on Mar 7, 2017 23:16:02 GMT
Johnson's starting to act like the big I am. Some of his play and passes were extremely poor/cocky, as was Lundstrum, back to his early season antics. I strongly believe MApp has psychologically convinced the players that it's impossible to play two games a week and you can see the players starting to believe it. Shame really as I feel the players could have achieved the play offs, but mentally they now look gone. We played Middlesborough and Charlton in one week with 2 decent performances. We then followed it with Chesterfield and Luton in which we were good and then good enough. No comments about 2 games in week and mental frailties then. Yet 2 defeats against a well organised and strong Rovers and the run away leaders and this proves that MApp and the players have lost it? I don't know why some on here pick and choose 'facts' to justify their opinions. If we look at the last 4 games, would we have been disappointed with draws against Charlton, Rovers and Sheff Utd with a win against Chesterfield? If so, we've come away with the same 6 points. At Christmas most thought that anything beyond mid table was optimistic, the Checkatrade was pointless and Newcastle was a crap draw. Now we have stabilised that mid table position with teams around us in very mixed form, we have a Wembley final to look forward to and came away from the FA cup with a lot of credit and a few quid in the bank. Put then I suppose these 'facts' don't fit with your opinion do they?
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 7, 2017 23:20:58 GMT
Are some people really getting riled up about Wilder's celebrations? Has done the kiss the badge thing multiple times this season already. I have a Sheff Utd supporting mate who repeatedly goes on about it. His boyhood side have just come from behind to extend their lead at the top. Of course he is going to be excited and delighted. I'd wager a fair amount that he would have done the same thing regardless of who they played tonight, if they won in that way. I'm not riled up. Just think it's classless, especially from someone who got all chippy when Di Canio did something similar a few years back and had a big pop at him for doing it. We move on.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 7, 2017 23:22:51 GMT
It's a classless from Wilder. Rad Ox's point of he won't do that at every away games sets the correct tone for it. He just turns the OUFC fans that don't mind him, against him for no real reason other than he's a knob. How soon will he screw his boyhood club over for a better job? They can't say they weren't warned. It was a game of small margins. Today, they went against us. If it is a penalty for them, can't see why the Ref didn't give in their box. A strange time for a whistle happy Ref to go quiet and timid. He let their 19 get all cuddly with Dunks in the box when the rules are pretty clear about contact (I thought). Marv gets better and better. If I am not mistaken lot of folk on here wanted CW out. He wasn't offered a new contract and/or wasn't or cudnt be backed by the board at the time to get us into the playoffs and out of L2. Since then he has proven his worth, saving ntfc and gaining promotion, even though mapp still thinks we were the better team. CW has been backed massively at sufc, biggest playing budget in this league and he is delivering. Good for Chris. Lets remember without CW we cud be still in the conf etc. CW stated the rebirth of oufc. Lets remember that. Teams reflect their managers personality. CW is chippy cocky confident bloke, with no style, no graces, maybe no class, just like his sufc team tonight. Two big central backs, little and large forward line, hard working midfield and crosses into the box etc. Effective but not attractive. Like CW. Mappy is a classy guy, well groomed, has class like his football team. I am confident he has substance.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 7, 2017 23:25:26 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight.
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Post by holdsteady on Mar 7, 2017 23:29:54 GMT
To be fair, hidden by good away form and cup runs our home league form has fallen off a cliff. That's 5 points from our last 7 league games at the Kassam, stretching back to November/December time with some hard home fixtures still to come, the solitary win was a not exactly sparkling performance to MK Dons.
Appleton himself said we are 3 or 4 players from challenging, and it's hard to argue with that. We were never good enough to make the play offs, and it will be a hard fight to finish top half with our remaining fixtures, the way they fell pushed us into a false position.
But a Wembley appearance, good FA cup run and comfortable safety in our first season back at this level for years is acceptable, especially with the promotion side having the heart torn out of it.
We can only hope that Appleton can emulate his first two seasons here, mid table and using the first season to assess and build a side for success in the second.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Mar 7, 2017 23:32:03 GMT
It's a classless from Wilder. Rad Ox's point of he won't do that at every away games sets the correct tone for it. He just turns the OUFC fans that don't mind him, against him for no real reason other than he's a knob. How soon will he screw his boyhood club over for a better job? They can't say they weren't warned. It was a game of small margins. Today, they went against us. If it is a penalty for them, can't see why the Ref didn't give in their box. A strange time for a whistle happy Ref to go quiet and timid. He let their 19 get all cuddly with Dunks in the box when the rules are pretty clear about contact (I thought). Marv gets better and better. If I am not mistaken lot of folk on here wanted CW out. He wasn't offered a new contract and/or wasn't or cudnt be backed by the board at the time to get us into the playoffs and out of L2. Since then he has proven his worth, saving ntfc and gaining promotion, even though mapp still thinks we were the better team. CW has been backed massively at sufc, biggest playing budget in this league and he is delivering. Good for Chris. Lets remember without CW we cud be still in the conf etc. CW stated the rebirth of oufc. Lets remember that. Teams reflect their managers personality. CW is chippy cocky confident bloke, with no style, no graces, maybe no class, just like his sufc team tonight. Two big central backs, little and large forward line, hard working midfield and crosses into the box etc. Effective but not attractive. Like CW. Mappy is a classy guy, well groomed, has class like his football team. I am confident he has substance. I don't doubt the bounce from leaving here in general nor the good job he did at Northampton. It would be a lie to say otherwise. As a person, it's got a bit rotten and grubby since he left. I suspect he wouldn't take kindly with MAPP doing something like that at Bramall Lane. Or Di Canio here...
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Post by chippsy on Mar 7, 2017 23:32:41 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. You just said they had no style, grace or class.... Make your mind up. Thought they looked a very good side.
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Post by charliesghost on Mar 7, 2017 23:49:45 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Mar 8, 2017 0:16:47 GMT
I enjoyed watching a football match tonight - as opposed to the tosh we saw on Saturday. Despite our frailties, I thought there was a lot of skill on show from both sides.
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Post by lerekdilley on Mar 8, 2017 0:29:08 GMT
I enjoyed watching a football match tonight - as opposed to the tosh we saw on Saturday. Despite our frailties, I thought there was a lot of skill on show from both sides. I thought we played ok. Had more possession and more shots on goal. Not the end of the world, could certainly have done with an easier game after Saturday.
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Post by helsinkiyellow on Mar 8, 2017 5:49:46 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up. Compared to OUFC, SUFC have 2.4x average higher attendence and don't have to pay extortinate rent for their stadium. And their playing budget is only 50% higher?
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Post by pottersrightboot on Mar 8, 2017 6:07:08 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up. How do we know you aren't making the Sheff U budget figure up yourself? Anyone would think you were on the board already, the way you go on Chas. As to the game, quite enjoyable. Johnson was the best player on the pitch, despite some iffy defending for their pen. They won the game in central midfield where we again looked tired. Ruffels would have helped last night as well. We could have pulled something out of the fire if the subs had come on earlier. There seems some real frost between OUFC and Chippy. Grudging mentions in the programme , posturing on our pitch. Bit of a shame really. They are going up and play the game the right way though. Last thing - the pitch. It isn't good enough and hampers our playing style.
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Post by finlandia on Mar 8, 2017 6:18:38 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up. Oh the irony!!!! To be fair, an additional £1.5m is not much
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Post by oldham on Mar 8, 2017 6:29:01 GMT
Like him or loathe him Wilder has had a cracking couple of seasons. people can say all they like about budgets etc, he still manages that side and gets the best out of his players. Tbf I believe he has every right to celebrate in front of his fans. He's taken another step towards winning the league with the club he's loved all his life, he's even got a SUFC tattoo. I don't like some of the things he's said about us but hey, credit where it's due as well.
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Post by yellowox29 (BANNED) on Mar 8, 2017 6:42:13 GMT
To be fair, hidden by good away form and cup runs our home league form has fallen off a cliff. That's 5 points from our last 7 league games at the Kassam, stretching back to November/December time with some hard home fixtures still to come, the solitary win was a not exactly sparkling performance to MK Dons. Appleton himself said we are 3 or 4 players from challenging, and it's hard to argue with that. We were never good enough to make the play offs, and it will be a hard fight to finish top half with our remaining fixtures, the way they fell pushed us into a false position. But a Wembley appearance, good FA cup run and comfortable safety in our first season back at this level for years is acceptable, especially with the promotion side having the heart torn out of it. We can only hope that Appleton can emulate his first two seasons here, mid table and using the first season to assess and build a side for success in the second. Pitch doesn't help? Plus de I think has stated we cant afford promotion.
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Post by scotchegg on Mar 8, 2017 6:55:01 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up. Pot and Kettle!!!
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Post by ox4eva on Mar 8, 2017 6:57:54 GMT
I am happy where we are, then again I like to try and be realistic..
Up the U's!
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Mar 8, 2017 7:17:07 GMT
I am happy where we are, then again I like to try and be realistic.. Up the U's! I hope that result puts to bed the notion that this current team is ready for a step up. It isn't. We'd need 4 or 5 new players to compete in the Championship; Sheffield United's quality exposed that fact. Nevertheless, we remain attractive to watch, especially the skills of Johnson and Lundstram and the talent of Ledson and Nelson. I wonder where we'd be, though, if a striker of Sharp's ability had played for us all season?
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Post by grenobleroad on Mar 8, 2017 7:48:00 GMT
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Post by essexyellows on Mar 8, 2017 8:02:21 GMT
Johnson's starting to act like the big I am. Some of his play and passes were extremely poor/cocky, as was Lundstrum, back to his early season antics. I strongly believe MApp has psychologically convinced the players that it's impossible to play two games a week and you can see the players starting to believe it. Shame really as I feel the players could have achieved the play offs, but mentally they now look gone. We played Middlesborough and Charlton in one week with 2 decent performances. We then followed it with Chesterfield and Luton in which we were good and then good enough. No comments about 2 games in week and mental frailties then. Yet 2 defeats against a well organised and strong Rovers and the run away leaders and this proves that MApp and the players have lost it?I don't know why some on here pick and choose 'facts' to justify their opinions. If we look at the last 4 games, would we have been disappointed with draws against Charlton, Rovers and Sheff Utd with a win against Chesterfield? If so, we've come away with the same 6 points.At Christmas most thought that anything beyond mid table was optimistic, the Checkatrade was pointless and Newcastle was a crap draw.
Now we have stabilised that mid table position with teams around us in very mixed form, we have a Wembley final to look forward to and came away from the FA cup with a lot of credit and a few quid in the bank.Put then I suppose these 'facts' don't fit with your opinion do they? Very salient points. People really need to have a sniff of reality. Look at what we have achieved, what we have to look forward too and be a little bit grateful.
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Post by grenobleroad on Mar 8, 2017 8:34:18 GMT
Tough game last night for the lads. We gave it a good go but struggled to match the quality they have.
We have a young and hungry team which we should really start to see click next year providing we can keep the majority of them together. It's not over until its over in terms of the play offs but we would need a hell of a run against some tough opposition.
I'm already looking forward to Saturday against Peterborough, two teams who play excellent football so should be a cracking game.
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Post by essexyellows on Mar 8, 2017 8:36:46 GMT
Objection! I thought match threads had a 24 hours before kick off rule?? Its hexed now..... Told you!
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Post by Junior on Mar 8, 2017 9:10:50 GMT
Pls lets remember sufc playing budget is at least 3 times ours. And it showed tonight. Absolute balls. And an insult to our Board. Our playing budget is north of 3 million quid. And their is about 4.5 million quid. Better, for sure, but three times? Don't just make things up. 'Don't make thinks up' 😂👍 So, Charlie, when were you informed of our playing budget? Likewise, Sheffield Utd? Would I also be correct in saying you seem to be very active when ever we lose. Almost as if it gives you ammunition to fire off all your personal gripes with the personal at the football club. Maybe you can go and have a chat with 'CJW' and discuss his playing budget.
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Post by Junior on Mar 8, 2017 9:12:25 GMT
Wait, what, surely not. But Charlie said....
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