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Post by old on Oct 11, 2016 6:28:27 GMT
Why should I allow them to build on my property if they are not paying me what I am owed?
its interesting that this news has been held back by the Oxford Mail until after the televised game. DE confirms that the club is up to date with its bills and they don't owe Kassam. I would suggest that the reasons behind this is the fact that the stadium has been poorly maintained and as a tennent money may well have been held back by the club until outstanding works have been done.
maybe Kassam should remind himself as to the CVA he invoked when he took over the building of the stadium all those years ago.
so as the self proclaimed custodian of the club, he continues to rip the heart from within.
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Post by minime on Oct 11, 2016 6:55:48 GMT
And that, is the real reason why he wont sell to one individual. That individual being DE - because he believes he is owed a few quid!
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 11, 2016 7:18:15 GMT
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Post by Common Villager on Oct 11, 2016 7:19:32 GMT
Kassam is throwing his toys out of the pram because the club are finally standing up to him with regards to the poor standards of the stadium. Boo hoo.
I just hope the timing of this doesn't affect the stadium purchase.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2016 7:22:59 GMT
Tit for tat. p*ss him off over calling the ground Grenoble Rd he gets shitty over a few quid payments. Not really surprised, but proves even more how difficult he is to deal with, and how well oxvox have done to get this far
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Post by KLYellow on Oct 11, 2016 7:28:20 GMT
This doesnt surprise me. I am sure the club have given Kassam feedback about the standard and maitenance of the ground. Some of which has been mentioned here on the forum. Also, the restaurant has been shut for some time.
We dont know the full details, but sounds like some bad blood has been spilt.
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Post by minime on Oct 11, 2016 7:33:00 GMT
Tit for tat. p*ss him off over calling the ground Grenoble Rd he gets shitty over a few quid payments. Not really surprised, but proves even more how difficult he is to deal with, and how well oxvox have done to get this far FK using Oxvox to get back at DE
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2016 8:05:56 GMT
Tit for tat. p*ss him off over calling the ground Grenoble Rd he gets shitty over a few quid payments. Not really surprised, but proves even more how difficult he is to deal with, and how well oxvox have done to get this far FK using Oxvox to get back at DE Possibly, but think they have been in talks on this way before it all started boiling over
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Post by blox21 on Oct 11, 2016 8:09:12 GMT
As one or two have mentioned earlier , turn the heat up a notch or two and kassam doesn't like it . Well done to all ( oxvox and the management) keep the pressure on and soon the journey will be over !
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Post by Junior on Oct 11, 2016 8:09:31 GMT
He really is a snake, isn't he. Would love for the Mail to call him out over the Priory issues (they won't)
Good on Eales and GBT for standing up to him and holding back payments.
Anyone with any idea in what these payments would be?
Maybe he'd like to comment on the maintenance issues mentioned on this forum whilst he's being so open. Oh and the floodlights!
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Post by yellowoptimist on Oct 11, 2016 8:13:46 GMT
Tit for tat. p*ss him off over calling the ground Grenoble Rd he gets shitty over a few quid payments. Not really surprised, but proves even more how difficult he is to deal with, and how well oxvox have done to get this far Great effort but how far have they got...really?
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2016 8:16:08 GMT
Tit for tat. p*ss him off over calling the ground Grenoble Rd he gets shitty over a few quid payments. Not really surprised, but proves even more how difficult he is to deal with, and how well oxvox have done to get this far Great effort but how far have they got...really? Further than any chairman since he left
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Post by hackneyjack on Oct 11, 2016 8:19:05 GMT
Great to see the club finally standing up to Kassam and his mercenary behaviour.
Well done DE.
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Post by eighteen93 on Oct 11, 2016 8:25:05 GMT
What a nasty vindicative piece of sh!t Ka$$am is. How the f@*k does he sleep at night? He must owe OUFC money, surely?
The club had to fork out 200k for a new playing surface after Ka$$am's rugby pals churned up the Grenoble Road pitch and remind me why the club and not Ka$$am had to pay for a new scoreboard too?
As Junior says - the man is a snake.
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Post by hackneyjack on Oct 11, 2016 8:32:20 GMT
Great effort but how far have they got...really? Further than any chairman since he left Agree, respect to Oxvox for having talks with such a slippery individual with a team of equally slippery varmints. Hope Oxvox keep things going in the best way possible for our club, but there's a catalogue of difficulty/confusion with Kassam, so they really need to dig in.
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Post by old on Oct 11, 2016 8:37:04 GMT
He may well be a snake, however he is very clever in the way he manipulates various groups and the media to his own advantage. As I have said before, be very aware of the man, he has history of getting what he wants and bollocks to the collateral damage. He managed to stop any demonstration by the supporters at the televised game by issuing a statement regarding his wish to sell the stadium for the benefit of the Community just a day before the game. A clever man.
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Post by Jem on Oct 11, 2016 8:46:28 GMT
He may well be a snake, however he is very clever in the way he manipulates various groups and the media to his own advantage. As I have said before, be very aware of the man, he has history of getting what he wants and bollocks to the collateral damage. He managed to stop any demonstration by the supporters at the televised game by issuing a statement regarding his wish to sell the stadium for the benefit of the Community just a day before the game. A clever man. Just to clarify the last point, We (oxvox) determined when the statements went out, it was not FK. The timing had nothing to do with Sunday's game. Cheers Jem
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 11, 2016 8:52:59 GMT
This is becoming interesting.
So Eales admits OUFC owe Kassam money, but nothing significant, yet Kassam seems exercised enough by what's owed to hold our fourth stand ambitions back. Eales has invited Kassam to contact him, but has not offered to take the first step himself. Meanwhile, Kassam still seems willing to talk to OxVox about community ownership of the club.
Must admit, the latter does seem less genuine this morning, but I still think it's imperative OxVox continue to negotiate with Kassam on the subject.
To label Kassam a snake might help us let off steam but won't take OUFC forward at this stage.
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Post by steveo263 on Oct 11, 2016 8:57:17 GMT
Seems these payments are the reason United have taken Kassam to an arbitration court.
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Post by arthurturner on Oct 11, 2016 9:07:01 GMT
Seems these payments are the reason United have taken Kassam to an arbitration court. Have they? When did this happen? Has there been a hearing yet? If so, what was the outcome?
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 11, 2016 9:09:51 GMT
I don't see that this tit for tat or nit picking by ka**am as a very Sensible and business-like approach, more like same old ka**am taking the p1ss. Eh?
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Post by KLYellow on Oct 11, 2016 9:11:07 GMT
Just some random thoughts on a Tuesday.
If we had won on Sunday, say with the same scoreline as Wimbledon beat us, we would have been 7th, just outside the playoffs. Positivity and possibly attendances might have started creeping up. Again, the calls, justification and pressure for the 4th stand could increase. We are already averaging 8,500 for home games, with over 7,600 of those being Yellows.
We have home games to come vs Millwall, Coventry, Northampton, Bolton, Sheff Utd, MK Dons and Bristol Rover who will all probably sell out of their 1,500 allocation.
I feel OxVox and DE are being smart, trying to get a deal done on the stadium ASAP, and a back up being the 4th stand because we are on the up....? I said before we are not geared up for the Championship just yet. We could be not far off on the playing front, but organizationally, commercially and more important stadium wise, we are miles away. I am not sure how long it would take to build a 4th stand? But with DE saying that we could complete on a stadium purchase in 10-12 weeks that would take up through to January. Then its 7 months till the new season starts....
The Championship is a huge incentive with over the half the current Championship clubs having the potential to bring 2,000 to 3,000 or more to our place...
So what am I saying, not sure, but something along the lines of I would be happy for us to consolidate in Div 1. Lets get the stadium, but not rush and pay too much.
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Post by old on Oct 11, 2016 9:11:49 GMT
He may well be a snake, however he is very clever in the way he manipulates various groups and the media to his own advantage. As I have said before, be very aware of the man, he has history of getting what he wants and bollocks to the collateral damage. He managed to stop any demonstration by the supporters at the televised game by issuing a statement regarding his wish to sell the stadium for the benefit of the Community just a day before the game. A clever man. Just to clarify the last point, We (oxvox) determined when the statements went out, it was not FK. The timing had nothing to do with Sunday's game. Cheers Jem That's interesting. Why choose that particular date? Oxvox would have been aware of possible impending demonstrations at that game and the article in the OM gave the impression as did DE that it was Kassam breaking the news and not any other person or persons.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 11, 2016 9:15:04 GMT
I don't see that this tit for tat or nit picking by ka**am as a very Sensible and business-like approach, more like same old ka**am taking the p1ss. Eh? You should stand for OxVox chair when Jem's had enough. You have all the necessary attributes. Your approach to advancing the club is to lambast the only person who holds any power over that advancement. Whatever you think of him, from his own perspective Kassam is behaving sensibly and in a business-like manner.
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Post by KLYellow on Oct 11, 2016 9:16:42 GMT
Come on guys, whats happening seems no different to politics, especially all the crap thats going on in the US...
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 11, 2016 9:19:11 GMT
Come on guys, whats happening seems no different to politics, especially all the crap thats going on in the US... The US stuff is not politics, it's show business! Take your point though: Kassam is a shrewd businessman who will be thinking three steps ahead. Very politically aware. OUFC / OxVox need to be similarly canny.
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Post by thesecretposter on Oct 11, 2016 9:25:14 GMT
Kassam is throwing his toys out of the pram because the club are finally standing up to him with regards to the poor standards of the stadium. Boo hoo. I just hope the timing of this doesn't affect the stadium purchase. I don't think he's "throwing his toys out of the pram". There's clearly a dispute be it justified or not and unfortunately while Kassam still owns the stadium he has every right to stop anything happening if he thinks he's owed money. Look at it in another way. If you owned a house with tenants in and they wanted you to put up a fence for example in the garden but they hadn't paid their rent for 2 months would you do it for them? Yes it might be a little childish from Kassam but if he's owed money he's owed money. I'm not for one minute taking his side but just looking at the situation logically. He's a businessman at the end of the day and is out to make money. In the corporate world a couple of thousand can cause people to do petty things.
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Post by old on Oct 11, 2016 9:26:17 GMT
Just to clarify the last point, We (oxvox) determined when the statements went out, it was not FK. The timing had nothing to do with Sunday's game. Cheers Jem That's interesting. Why choose that particular date? Oxvox would have been aware of possible impending demonstrations at that game and the article in the OM gave the impression as did DE that it was Kassam breaking the news and not any other person or persons. FIROZ Kassam has revealed talks are under way to sell the Kassam Stadium and make it a community-owned facility. The above is the first sentence in Saturdays OM when the story broke. It certainly gives the impression that FK broke the story.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2016 9:30:02 GMT
Every action has a reaction and all that. Club pulls the restaurant - tea and coffee and beer prices go up. Club refuses to use the stadium name- kassam gets shitty and pulls the fourth stand. Oxvox talk sensibly and politely to him, we get as far as we ever have with getting the stadium off him.
What ever we think of him, what ever protests we think might help, it may be in the best interests of Oufc to keep them to ourselves until the point we either own the stadium, or oxvox confirm the deal is dead, otherwise we p*ss him off again, and guess what he will do.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 11, 2016 9:31:15 GMT
That's interesting. Why choose that particular date? Oxvox would have been aware of possible impending demonstrations at that game and the article in the OM gave the impression as did DE that it was Kassam breaking the news and not any other person or persons. FIROZ Kassam has revealed talks are under way to sell the Kassam Stadium and make it a community-owned facility. The above is the first sentence in Saturdays OM when the story broke. It certainly gives the impression that FK broke the story. He said oxvox determined "when" it was released not who by.
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