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Post by osleroad on Oct 9, 2016 13:11:34 GMT
Reminds me of Bristol Rovers away earlier in the season. When we're behind late on we seem to have no urgency and often misplace passes Thing is we were behind early on and late with no hope of reprieve
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Post by londonroader1 on Oct 9, 2016 13:13:09 GMT
Well that was wank OUFCX
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Post by johnox37en on Oct 9, 2016 13:13:49 GMT
Oh well, back to the drawing board but the ref was shocking.
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Post by bashamwonderland on Oct 9, 2016 13:14:04 GMT
Well this is a very disappointing end to a very disappointing game.We looked pretty terrible today, and having watched us a few times this season I feel this won't be the only disappointing performance we'll be subjected to.
A comfortable but boring mid-lower table finish beckons if we don't kick on.
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Post by Young Money on Oct 9, 2016 13:15:17 GMT
I think moving forwards Sercombe needs to be dropped and Maguire has to play centrally
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Post by KristapsGrebis on Oct 9, 2016 13:17:05 GMT
Pretty dreadful, it seems we've totally lost our way and have forgotten how we want to play our football. Absolutely no clue what we're trying to do today. Haven't felt like that since the start of Mapp's reign. We've gone backwards in a big way.
Oh well, only a game and all that.
RIP Lewis.
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Post by tatabanya on Oct 9, 2016 13:17:23 GMT
I want to like Hemmings and have some faith that he is the striker we need. I'm struggling with both.
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Post by battman on Oct 9, 2016 13:18:48 GMT
Awful showing all round. The ref was a todger, but we were bad also. Why we reverted back to just Lundstram and Sercombe in midfield I don't know - it didn't work earlier in the season so why would it work now? MacDonald runs, but that's about it. No end product, surely Johnson or even Crowley should've started ahead of him. We started well then mysteriously decided to lump it up to Hemmings, which isn't playing to his strengths. Maguire was our only effective attacking player really, he needs to be playing either down the centre or in a free role - out on the left don't suit him. Hoping Hall is ready to come in sometime soon as we have no really effective attacking outlet at the moment.
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Post by unification on Oct 9, 2016 13:19:05 GMT
Correct result. For our failings, Wimbledon dug in, got the job done and executed their game plan far more effectively than we did.
We can look at the ref and, whilst there's little doubt he's culpable in our defeat and for setting such a precedent with letting everything go, the main onus was on our misgivings. Underhit passes, overhit passes, tika-taka nonsense when just a cross was needed, tactically questionable, personnel in roles that didn't suit (did Hemmings win anything or even do anything in the second half?), lack of responsibility from set pieces. The list goes on ...
That was a nasty defeat to watch. As others have mentioned, draw the line under it, learn from it and quickly forget about it. I'm staying consistent to my prediction at the start of the season that we will remain inconsistent up until Christmas and carve more of a niche for ourselves in the second half.
Personally, I'd like to see Skarz as captain if just as an excuse to make Lundstram droppable. He's nowhere near as influential at present and I'm not altogether convinced on his captaining capabilities.
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Post by southoxox on Oct 9, 2016 13:20:07 GMT
Worse ref I've ever seen
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Post by whitstablexile on Oct 9, 2016 13:22:15 GMT
Crap.
Really crap.
Need to choose our CB partnership and stick with it. One of them needs to be able to play the ball. Only one of them. Balls up to the midfield were pathetic, under played and just put pressure on us.
Lunny isn't captaining the team. Sorry to say it. But he isn't. Give it to Nelson and play him every week IMO. Players are tiptoeing around waiting for someone else to take responsibility. That's a bad sign.
We need to work out who's doing what up top. Hemmings, Thomas etc are clearly talented but seem to be uncomfortable and short on confidence - that's because they aren't playing as a unit.
Mid table for us. Robbie Hall won't be the magic bullet we're hoping for. Ribiero will make a difference though.
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Post by cornishox on Oct 9, 2016 13:23:13 GMT
Every time I think we are about to get a good run going and a chance to jump up the table we seem to throw in a flat performance. Against opposition you think we should beat (Wimbledon, southend). Was one of the most frustrating games I've watched today. Tippy tappy rubbish clearly wasn't working and we created hardly anything. Hemmings was awful. Sercombe terrible. What on earth was crowley gonna contribute when he comes on? More tappy rubbish that is impossible to thread through 11 Wimbledon defenders. Yes the ref was awful and on another day that could of been a 2-2 draw (cancel out there "foul" goal and if we got the pen) but attacking wise today that was awful.
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Post by bashamwonderland on Oct 9, 2016 13:28:32 GMT
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Post by brassmonkey on Oct 9, 2016 13:31:31 GMT
Ref got 3 decisions wrong. First their striker who scored should have been sent off for 2 footed tackle on dunkley. No idea why dunks didn't roll around. Was definitly a pen on maguire. And probably a pen on thomas. It wasn't a foul for their 'foul goal' though imo. We were poor. Defence playing dodgy underhit passes. Midfield overrun. Attack toothless. Don't think we had a shot on target.
Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by dabigfella on Oct 9, 2016 13:32:48 GMT
One statistic sums up the game,
Important saves by Eastwood - at least six that I remember. Important saves by the Wimbledon keeper - zero, zilch, none.
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Post by gilgy on Oct 9, 2016 13:34:51 GMT
Game wasn't necessarily over at half time but boy did we have a mountain to climb.
Can't fault the energy of most of the team in the second half, up until about the 80th minute... needed to be 3-2 by 65th to have stood much of a chance. Better in the second half but not good enough, poor decision making in-and-around their box cost us some good chances.
Overall, AFC were better than us, closed us down well, played to the referee and probably edged it (despite possession stats).
Will give Appleton a lot to think about, but sure we'll bounce back.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 9, 2016 13:52:41 GMT
I didn't think I'd ever see a worse Reffing display than Keith Hill's last season. I thought it wasn't possible to be any worse. Today proved me wrong and I'm so angry, I'm quite calm. While we didn't play well and were ponderous and wasteful, he had a direct impact on the 2nd goal - which for me is a no no in any sport. If a Referee has that much negative impact on a game, there is something very wrong.
The amount of poor decisions from that group were amazing. Both teams suffered from wrong throw ins/corners being given because none of the officials had any idea what had happened. How did Deadman make it as a league Ref? I wouldn't trust in an Under 10s game.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Oct 9, 2016 13:54:02 GMT
I thought Keith Hill would be the worst ever Ref I'd see, but Darren Deadman achieved that today. So incompetent it's actually quite embarrassing for the game.
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Post by monsieurgrumpy on Oct 9, 2016 13:54:06 GMT
After getting the lucky break with the own goal just after half time, we should have rolled up our sleeves and laid siege to their goal for the rest of the game. We couldn't even lay siege to their half. Reminded me too much of the stuffing at Cambridge a few seasons back. Maybe with it being on the box and our defence not capable of dealing with Tom Elliot of course. Appleton claimed then he realised then that too many of the team he had inherited were not up to the challenge. Wonder if he learnt much the same today?
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 9, 2016 13:58:33 GMT
Was really excited when we signed Hemmings and Johnson for best part of 750k. So far they haven't looked any better than dean smalley and Lewis haldane.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 9, 2016 14:11:54 GMT
We have always looked our best under mapp with attacking fullbacks supporting wingers. We just don't have that at the min so opt to hit it long, which fails 99% of the time. We got players like lunny and Maguire that can pick a pass, do we work it out through them? No we hit it long, in what I can only guess is the hope that we win a free kick from it looking like defenders are climbing on Thomas or Hemmings, as they are never going to win the header, and if they did are so far apart it wouldn't matter anyway. Hemmings made a couple of decent runs using his pace, but had no support, do we try it again? Nope straight back to pumping it up. 442 just doesn't work for us at the min with the plays available, and we could have seriously done with an extra man in rothwell In The middle today
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Post by oufcad27 on Oct 9, 2016 14:48:08 GMT
Was really excited when we signed Hemmings and Johnson for best part of 750k. So far they haven't looked any better than dean smalley and Lewis haldane. I am thinking the same, both came in with a lot of hype and neither living up to it
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Post by nige01ox on Oct 9, 2016 14:52:23 GMT
Crock of shite.
If we're to play with 2 in the middle, for me Rothwell has to play. Sercombe offered absolutely zero protection to our defence.
While we may moan about a foul for the second goal, I also can't believe how easy it was for their guy to cut in from the wing. He went between 2 players unchallenged, the defending was pathetic.
And the third was just a catalogue of errors, beginning with Sercs losing the ball stupidly. Obviously the centre backs were way too far apart, but also Edwards let the guy run off him too easily. And watching it back Lunny didn't try nearly hard enough to get across to their player with the ball and close him down, he just ambled over which allowed their man time to slip the pass through.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Oct 9, 2016 14:58:43 GMT
The only positive from this game was Maguire, he was only one closing down players,we gave them far too much room on the ball.Think Nelson has walked right into this team if im honest because any defence that concedes three needs change.
How'd Thomas and Hemmings both miss that attempt from the corner from 2 yards out your strikers you should be able too find the net from that distance. It looked like we didn't want too shoot either, Great example of this Rothwell ball falls too him edge of box take a touch and Hit it, he did say he can't wait too score his first goal for Oxford in an interview. Is he expecting to walk the ball in? Get the ball up the pitch not across and stop relying on Route 1 Football to get forward.
We turned into Swindon today and it was frustrating relying on Eastwood too clear it and not playing up the pitch.
I hope Skarz isn't out too long as we have some top quality opposition this month and i doubt Ruffels could do a Job at Full back against the likes of Vale and Bradford.
Finally the referee "Dean Deadman" and his team of officals didn't like the whistle when Oxford had the ball, shirt pulling and reckless challenges allowed, pretty sure a Swindon player got sent off for a similar challenge on Sercombe. Also allowing the keeper to hold the ball far too long at one point he had the ball in his hands for 10 seconds correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure it's 6 seconds a keeper can hold the ball.
Sorry for being so negative but that was the worst performance since Appleton's first season in charge in my opinion.
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Post by Toeby on Oct 9, 2016 15:03:08 GMT
I think moving forwards Sercombe needs to be dropped and Maguire has to play centrally Moving forwards? Chance would be a fine thing. We spend most our time moving backwards and side to side.
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Post by victor1986 on Oct 9, 2016 15:04:18 GMT
One statistic sums up the game, Important saves by Eastwood - at least six that I remember. Important saves by the Wimbledon keeper - zero, zilch, none. Yes exactly - we saw loads of goals walk out of the building in the summer & I fear that the replacements are proving to be a bad choice. Hemmings is just not good enough, Wes tries with no end product & Sercs & Lunny are shadows of last season. Serious- only 2/3 points above the relegation spots. Is MAPP up to this - mysterious substitution today bringing Crowley on?
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 9, 2016 15:07:51 GMT
One statistic sums up the game, Important saves by Eastwood - at least six that I remember. Important saves by the Wimbledon keeper - zero, zilch, none. Yes exactly - we saw loads of goals walk out of the building in the summer & I fear that the replacements are proving to be a bad choice. Hemmings is just not good enough, Wes tries with no end product & Sercs & Lunny are shadows of last season. Serious- only 2/3 points above the relegation spots. Is MAPP up to this - mysterious substitution today bringing Crowley on? Yet he has us 3 points off the playoffs, despite our lack of goals 😉
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Post by tomox on Oct 9, 2016 15:08:35 GMT
That felt like a return to some of our performances at home last season. A team that knew all about us and how to stop us playing. Credit to Wimbledon, they made it a really tough game. Although the second goal was a joke.
We cannot try to be a passing team in League 1 and play 4-4-2 with Sercombe being one of the midfielders. I know Lundstram has not been at his best so far, but at least he's always making himself available, getting on the ball and trying to make something happen. I don't think Sercombe has the quality to play in that position in our team, and too many times games have passed him by. I expect Ledson and Rothwell to come into the side eventually this season.
Don't get me wrong, he still has a lot of qualities and as a driving force he could be useful coming off the bench.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Oct 9, 2016 15:10:30 GMT
One statistic sums up the game, Important saves by Eastwood - at least six that I remember. Important saves by the Wimbledon keeper - zero, zilch, none. Too be fair he had the save from the header at a corner that he managed too catch on the line but apart from that, he could've set up a table and chairs and we would've still struggled. Hopefully we can improve for the game against Bradford as that will be one of the toughest games this season. we can only go onwards and upwards from today, at least we got a loss at home to give some of the players a reality check with we have too play with the same mentality as we would away.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 9, 2016 15:15:25 GMT
Oxford United were worse than the ref. And that says something.
There are too many things that went wrong to list. I'd be here all day. I'd just like to know why, after taking four points from our first five games, did we go back to playing the exact same formation as we were when it looked like a season long relegation battle? After those games it changed to a 4-2-3-1 and results picked up considerably, as did the overall performances. Why did that happen? Why the HELL has it gone back to that out of nowhere? Two flat banks of four with no mobility and no out and out pace on the wings. How was that EVER going to go well?
Also, while hardly anyone played well, good to see Wes Thomas back to his best after a 25 minute spell of looking like a footballer at Bolton. At least Hemmings tried, chased and ran. If you're playing badly the least you can do is that. And as for Sercombe literally walking off the pitch when we were 3-1 down after spending the entire game being overtaken by Maguire when it came to even thinking about tracking back... disgraceful.
Worst performance of the season.
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