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Post by SteMerritt on Nov 10, 2016 10:58:59 GMT
The Great Wall of China measures 2,150 miles. The Mexican border with the US is 1,989 miles. So Donald Trump's proposed wall is only 169 miles shorter than the Great Wall of China. The Great wall of China took approx 20 years to build, so would very interesting to see how Trump gets this all built within his 8 year tenure (assuming people haven't become disillusioned with all his empty promises and vote him out in 2020). Would also be interesting to seeing how Trump gets Mexico to agree to pay for it. Great wall of China was built mostly by slaves and captives from military campaigns iirc. If you recall correctly? Just how old are you then?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Nov 10, 2016 11:06:25 GMT
Old enough to remember the good times.
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Post by tonyw on Nov 10, 2016 17:46:34 GMT
The election has thrown up an interesting thought for me. About the message which the world has expressed in 2016. If you vilify 'the right' every day for the best part of two decades, calling them stupid, calling them ill-informed, calling them all manner of names, then you will get bitten. The media, television and the political class needs to change, and they need to do it quickly. French and German elections next year right? Strap in! I'd say Trump as a political figure is very hard to pigeon-hole in terms of right and left. He's won the election primarily because he managed to get the vote of two distinct groups. One was white working class rural voters who have seen their standard of living drop over the past couple of decades as US heavy industry and manufacturing has suffered and/or disappeared. This is a large group of people who have traditionally been strong democrat supporters, but who (quite reasonably) now see a political class that don't do anything for them and don't even attempt to reach out to them. Along comes Trump with a message designed directly for them, acknowledging how successive governments have failed them and promising that he will be their champion. The second is the traditional conservative Republican voter. But large swathes of those have been holding their noses and voting for him not because of a love of Trump, but because they view Hillary as the antichrist. I quite often read conservative US blogs (because I think it's important to sometimes get your news and opinion from sources that are not just reinforcing your beliefs and prejudices) and there are many who believe and worry that Trump is really a left wing New Yorker who is masquerading as a Republican to win power. He is not widely loved by many truly right wing Republicans, who would have preferred pretty much any of the other 15 presidential candidates. This is reflected in the fact that he actually received fewer total votes than John McCain! In many ways, these two groups are diametrically opposed on economic policy. The traditional US right believes almost above all else in small government, free trade and the markets. But Trump has been selling - indeed he spoke about it in his acceptance speech - massive government spending on infrastructure projects. He's been talking tariffs on foreign imports and ripping up international trade deals. These are genuinely (for America) left wing positions. If he sends a big infrastructure bill to Congress, he's going to get a big hug & a quick signature from Bernie Sanders! It's going to be fascinating seeing which of these two groups he upsets in the next four years. (of course his foreign policy actions are likely going to be more terrifying than fascinating.........)
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Post by KLYellow on Nov 11, 2016 7:42:13 GMT
I was just reading up about Trump and realised most of his assets/buildings are US based! Yes he has a few golf courses around the world, but the majority of this buildings are in the US and the assets in his stock portfolio are all US companies!
And even if he fucks up, which am sure he will. He can just resign and go back to the business he has, sorry I meant he inherited....
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 11, 2016 17:00:30 GMT
Secret service escorting trump to the Whitehouse yesterday
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 12, 2016 14:49:54 GMT
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Post by Boogaloo on Nov 14, 2016 11:24:14 GMT
As Independence referendums are all the rage, looks like California want independence from the other 49 US states. www.yescalifornia.org/
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Post by essexyellows on Nov 14, 2016 11:31:12 GMT
Time we popped over & retook the colonies...... world was a nicer place when more of the globe was pink.
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Post by holdsteady on Nov 14, 2016 14:14:45 GMT
As Independence referendums are all the rage, looks like California want independence from the other 49 US states. www.yescalifornia.org/The last time a chunk of the US tried to leave that ended with (proportionally) the most bloody and costly war that that country has been involved in, they might want to think about that.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 17:37:05 GMT
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Nov 14, 2016 17:44:35 GMT
Errm, I don't know why I am bothering but.. If you read the article - this had nothing to do with Trump. It was a road rage incident. And it was apparently reported by mainstream media in the local area in the USA as exactly that, before the footage was hijacked by people who used it to show it as something it was not. Did you actually read that page?
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Post by scotters on Nov 14, 2016 17:44:43 GMT
You're linking to a website that says it was a traffic incident you dummy.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:16:22 GMT
You're linking to a website that says it was a traffic incident you dummy. why where they calling him trump supporter then if just road incident plus still isn't ok to beat someone anyway or do you disagree suppose if it was the other way around you lot would find it disgusting .
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Post by Paul Cannell on Nov 14, 2016 18:24:44 GMT
Keep digging. Please keep digging.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:26:18 GMT
Keep digging. Please keep digging. keep quiet snob
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 14, 2016 18:28:10 GMT
You're linking to a website that says it was a traffic incident you dummy. why where they calling him trump supporter then if just road incident plus still isn't ok to beat someone anyway or do you disagree suppose if it was the other way around you lot would find it disgusting . It's an assault. Unacceptable by anyone against anyone else. Anyone could just as easily find a clip of whites attacking blacks, yet you're trying to make this a racist incident. You're also trying to make it an anti-Trump incident. Maybe the assailants did suggest their victim supported Trump. So what? They were probably idiots as well as thugs. My opinion is you're a f*cking idiot too.
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Post by scotters on Nov 14, 2016 18:31:17 GMT
You're linking to a website that says it was a traffic incident you dummy. why where they calling him trump supporter then if just road incident plus still isn't ok to beat someone anyway or do you disagree suppose if it was the other way around you lot would find it disgusting . Try reading it first next time, dummy. All will become clear.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:32:26 GMT
why where they calling him trump supporter then if just road incident plus still isn't ok to beat someone anyway or do you disagree suppose if it was the other way around you lot would find it disgusting . It's an assault. Unacceptable by anyone against anyone else. Anyone could just as easily find a clip of whites attacking blacks, yet you're trying to make this a racist incident. You're also trying to make it an anti-Trump incident. Maybe the assailants did suggest their victim supported Trump. So what? They were probably idiots as well as thugs. My opinion is you're a f*cking idiot too. so why the f*ck they mentioning trump for then if it was just a beat down they wouldn't even mention him .
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:33:43 GMT
why where they calling him trump supporter then if just road incident plus still isn't ok to beat someone anyway or do you disagree suppose if it was the other way around you lot would find it disgusting . Try reading it first next time, dummy. All will become clear. yes a police cover up they want to suppress it
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 14, 2016 18:34:35 GMT
It's an assault. Unacceptable by anyone against anyone else. Anyone could just as easily find a clip of whites attacking blacks, yet you're trying to make this a racist incident. You're also trying to make it an anti-Trump incident. Maybe the assailants did suggest their victim supported Trump. So what? They were probably idiots as well as thugs. My opinion is you're a f*cking idiot too. so why the f*ck they mentioning trump for then if it was just a beat down they wouldn't even mention him . Well, I suppose if you couldn't be bothered reading the narrative around the original clip I couldn't have expected you to read my post properly either. Interesting that you haven't disputed my description of you though.
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Post by scotters on Nov 14, 2016 18:37:04 GMT
Try reading it first next time, dummy. All will become clear. yes a police cover up they want to suppress it You're an idiot. Posting links you haven't read. It must be a police conspiracy.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:41:04 GMT
so why the f*ck they mentioning trump for then if it was just a beat down they wouldn't even mention him . Well, I suppose if you couldn't be bothered reading the narrative around the original clip I couldn't have expected you to read my post properly either. Interesting that you haven't disputed my description of you though. well that's your opinion you don't know me at all and you think its ok to insult people is just how the left do things isn't it
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 14, 2016 18:43:30 GMT
Well, I suppose if you couldn't be bothered reading the narrative around the original clip I couldn't have expected you to read my post properly either. Interesting that you haven't disputed my description of you though. well that's your opinion you don't know me at all and you think its ok to insult people is just how the left do things isn't it Yep, the 'left' are well known for going around insulting people. UKIP, on the other hand, are sweetness and light to those they don't like. By the way, I don't insult people, I insult you when you post something stupidly offensive. There's a difference.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:47:47 GMT
well that's your opinion you don't know me at all and you think its ok to insult people is just how the left do things isn't it Yep, the 'left' are well known for going around insulting people. UKIP, on the other hand, are sweetness and light to those they don't like. By the way, I don't insult people, I insult you when you post something stupidly offensive. There's a difference. you must insult alot people then for having there opinion.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 14, 2016 18:49:47 GMT
Yep, the 'left' are well known for going around insulting people. UKIP, on the other hand, are sweetness and light to those they don't like. By the way, I don't insult people, I insult you when you post something stupidly offensive. There's a difference. you must insult alot people then for having there opinion. Have you not understood a single thing? It's not about your opinion, it's about you (stupidly) misinterpreting the clip you posted. It's about you being an idiot. Don't play your usual 'poor me' game.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 18:57:03 GMT
you must insult alot people then for having there opinion. Have you not understood a single thing? It's not about your opinion, it's about you (stupidly) misinterpreting the clip you posted. It's about you being an idiot. Don't play your usual 'poor me' game. i watched the video not the words underneath maybe i should of why where they mentioning trump for if it has nothing to do with him,if i got out my car and went up to a black person shouting racial insults at them the police would not turn around and say oh well it was a traffic incident i would get done for racial attack and rightly so. .
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Post by Pete Burrett on Nov 14, 2016 18:58:58 GMT
Have you not understood a single thing? It's not about your opinion, it's about you (stupidly) misinterpreting the clip you posted. It's about you being an idiot. Don't play your usual 'poor me' game. i watched the video not the words underneath maybe i should of why where they mentioning trump for if it has nothing to do with him,if i got out my car and went up to a black person shouting racial insults at them the police would not turn around and say oh well it was a traffic incident i would get done for racial attack and rightly so. . Err .... what racial insults did the attackers yell? They called him a Trump supporter. Trump is not a race as far as I know. This is why it's difficult to take anything you say seriously Danny.
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Post by dannyc on Nov 14, 2016 19:08:15 GMT
i watched the video not the words underneath maybe i should of why where they mentioning trump for if it has nothing to do with him,if i got out my car and went up to a black person shouting racial insults at them the police would not turn around and say oh well it was a traffic incident i would get done for racial attack and rightly so. . Err .... what racial insults did the attackers yell? They called him a Trump supporter. Trump is not a race as far as I know. This is why it's difficult to take anything you say seriously Danny. i did not mean that instance as racial that was an example what i mean is they mentioned him being a trump supporter while beating him down how can that be confused as just a random attack why mention trump at all .
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Post by scotters on Nov 14, 2016 19:22:50 GMT
Here's a link, I didn't read it, just looked at the pictures. What do you mean it doesn't say what I want it to? Keep digging Danny...
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 14, 2016 19:23:20 GMT
This attack has similarities with the murder of MP Joe Cox, with claims the attacker shouted 'Britain first' -and some of the media front pages stated he was a 'Brexit supporter.'
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