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Post by oufc28 on Jul 19, 2016 22:37:44 GMT
Personal rating from the players. Can see many disagreeing from the comments already but just what i think.
Eastwood - Had a great game, controlled his box well, made some good saves and kicking was best i have seen for a while from one of our keepers. Skarz - passing was slightly suspect but his positioning against mahrez was very good. Ribiero - Got forward well in the first half, was pushed back in the second half as leicester upped the tempo, looked solid and fast. Dunkley - good in the air against two good forwards. passing was sometimes very erratic, looked a bit off the pace. Nelson - Looked a class acquisition when he was on the pitch, controlled passing and read the game superbly. hopefully injury nothing serious. Rothwell - Lundstram the second, good array of passing although sometimes a little too much, very athletic and good engine. Lundstram - Back to his best in a pretty open and unpressured midfield, passed around for the fun of it and never stopped working. captains performance. Crowley - Not impressed, tried to do far to much with very little to show for it. Needs to bulk up, far too lightweight. Maguire - looked sharp and clever just like the back end of last season, kept Simpson back in the first half, faded as the game went on. Fantastic strike for the free kick. Thomas - Showed signs of quality in patches and linked pretty well with taylor, Needs full fitness but i think he could be a real threat. Taylor - Had a tough game against two very strong physical center backs, some great flicks but again looks slightly off the pace, good to see him back though.
Subs Martin - very composed and looks comfortable on the ball, one brilliant block. Could well challenge Dunkley for a starting place. Ashby - looked to get on the ball and tried to get attacks starting. One sublime pass to giles. Could feature more this season. Giles - showed pace and strength, long way to go before being the finished article but definitely some potential.
Other players not on long enough to judge.
My conclusion, we lacked a lot of pace going forward. A big strong point of ours last season was the ability to turn defense into attack rapidly. We need a new striker and an out and out winger possibly two. Defensively i think we looked sound. We may also need an old head in midfield as its very young. Again, just my opinions.
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Post by Junior on Jul 19, 2016 22:59:47 GMT
Crowley been poor. Gives the ball away far too easily. Lundstram has been very good. Comfortable even at this level. Giving the ball away s bit too easily, but they are pressuring is very high. We still need a winger and a forward. So Crowley was poor because he was 'giving the ball away easily' yet Lundstrum was very good despite 'giving the ball away easily'
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Jul 19, 2016 23:00:40 GMT
Amazed to see somebody say they think Buchel is better than Eastwood after tonight. His kicking was yard perfect, he was composed, he caught everything he needed to and should have without the slightest fumble, and he made a couple of great saves - the one from Okazaki's header was positively superb. Buchel has never played as well as Eastwood did tonight in any game since he's been here. All we needed last season was a solid, dependable keeper who can give you 7/10 every week and do the basics right, and we would have won the league if we'd had that.
Definitely at least one striker short still, and at least one winger. MacDonald and Sercombe were missed but even with them we're a little light in terms of quality. There are plenty of bodies available with the youth, just not many of any real quality. YET. A couple more additions in the attacking third would make most people feel happier I'm sure.
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Post by The Fence End on Jul 19, 2016 23:01:46 GMT
I was very impressed with Martin, looks like a rock and a leader at the back.
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Post by bashamwonderland on Jul 19, 2016 23:50:02 GMT
Bit of a shaky one tonight, with the odd flash of brilliance. Yeah it's a friendly so no real judgement can be made.
Ashby (I think it was him) played really well when he came on. Eastwood looked brilliant.
Dunkley was a mixed bag, Taylor was rusty, Ribiero looked poor. Other new signings were uninspiring. But it was an uninspiring game in unforgiving heat. Nobody on either team played really well.
Why did Roberts come on so late? I feel like we will be needing him if we don't get any new strikers in. Should have replaced Taylor at half time or something.
Came away from the game in a good mood. The Leicester team bus and the Asian businessmen in flashy cars gave me a brief feeling of what he prem would be like. The team looked pretty solid but made a few unforced errors which I hope will all be ironed out by the first game.
It has been said but we lack pace in attack.
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 20, 2016 5:28:31 GMT
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Post by oldham on Jul 20, 2016 5:28:46 GMT
At the end of the day we've just lost to the best TEAM in the country in pre season and in hostile weather conditions. Not one of our players could get in the Leicester side yet some of our "supporters" choose to dig out some of our players. Obviously bullied at school and of the "we pay your wages, we can say what we like" mentality. This was a big game for most of our players and despite being less fit, less talented, and in some cases possibly in awe of the opposition I thought we done very well overall and I for one am really looking forward to what I think will be a good season for the boys.
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Post by grumpygit on Jul 20, 2016 7:41:29 GMT
At the end of the day we've just lost to the best TEAM in the country in pre season and in hostile weather conditions. Not one of our players could get in the Leicester side yet some of our "supporters" choose to dig out some of our players. Obviously bullied at school and of the "we pay your wages, we can say what we like" mentality. This was a big game for most of our players and despite being less fit, less talented, and in some cases possibly in awe of the opposition I thought we done very well overall and I for one am really looking forward to what I think will be a good season for the boys. Agreed, we played the Premiership Champions a team that over 38 matches out played Arsenal, Spurs, Man City, Man United etc. We won't be facing this quality in League One, so I personally think that this run out will only help the team going forward. The way Leicester defended on mass and closed us down as soon as we had possession was outstanding. I was impressed with the quality of our defence, it looked solid. Up front, don't forget that Was & Ryan will be facing less able defenders. Give it a few league games and this squad could with a couple of additions, become a difficult side to beat. All in all a thoroughly enjoyable evening
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Post by yellowfever1 on Jul 20, 2016 8:10:19 GMT
Losing Mullins, Wright, Hylton, Roofe, and O'Dowda = a team with a losing mentality
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Post by edinburghyellow on Jul 20, 2016 8:14:30 GMT
Surely Martin deserves a mention, too. Never easy coming on as a substitute CB but made some crunching last man tackles to stop what looked certain goals.
Also very commanding in the back line, barking commands out all night. Finally, looks very comfortable on the ball and happy to play out from the back (like he's said previously). Think his and Eastwood's composure bodes well for the season.
Will be interesting to see what MApp's preferred CB pairing is to start, imagine it'll be dependent on extent of Nelson's knock as well now.
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Post by Common Villager on Jul 20, 2016 8:23:15 GMT
Crowley been poor. Gives the ball away far too easily. Lundstram has been very good. Comfortable even at this level. Giving the ball away s bit too easily, but they are pressuring is very high. We still need a winger and a forward. So Crowley was poor because he was 'giving the ball away easily' yet Lundstrum was very good despite 'giving the ball away easily' I think although Lundstram did give the ball away on occasion it was much less frequently than Crowley. I thought on the whole Lundstram had a good game. His passing, bar the odd misplaced one (which we can forgive him for at this stage), wouldn't have looked out of place if he was playing for Leicester. I've seen Crowley three times now and in each game he has far too frequently been too slow releasing the ball or guilty of trying too much. There's obviously a lot of talent there but he needs to strengthen up and do things quicker.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 20, 2016 8:34:48 GMT
I suspect Crowley will need to get up to the speed of the game. He's not played a senior game since something like October last year.
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Post by Long John Silver on Jul 20, 2016 8:37:56 GMT
So Crowley was poor because he was 'giving the ball away easily' yet Lundstrum was very good despite 'giving the ball away easily' I think although Lundstram did give the ball away on occasion it was much less frequently than Crowley. I thought on the whole Lundstram had a good game. His passing, bar the odd misplaced one (which we can forgive him for at this stage), wouldn't have looked out of place if he was playing for Leicester. I've seen Crowley three times now and in each game he has far too frequently been too slow releasing the ball or guilty of trying too much. There's obviously a lot of talent there but he needs to strengthen up and do things quicker. Lundstram had a very good game... His movement to get into space to be able to receive a pass is very good. Ashby seems to have a bit of that about him too, and I was quite impressed with him. Crowley seemed to dwell on the ball a bit too much early on, but I thought he got better as the game progressed. I think he'll be very good after a few competitive matches to get up to the pace of games. Rothwell went quite un noticed to me. A few tidy passes, but not much that caught the eye.
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Post by saddletramp on Jul 20, 2016 9:34:08 GMT
The one slight concern I saw tonight was Dunkley looks a weak link, his general play was haphazard and his passing was all over the place, I can see Martin and Nelson being the central pairing if Chey doesn't up his game. I watched the game in a bar in Fuerteventura,was looking more at the team performance than individuals.I thought the back four looked what they were,a new unit.At times Dunkley and Nelson were going for the same ball (as when Dunkley took Nelson out) and other times they were so far apart Billy Whitehurst could have got through.Work needed,but you dont build a defensive unit in weeks in can take months.All in all a promising show.
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Post by ontheup01 on Jul 20, 2016 9:49:17 GMT
So Crowley was poor because he was 'giving the ball away easily' yet Lundstrum was very good despite 'giving the ball away easily' I think although Lundstram did give the ball away on occasion it was much less frequently than Crowley. I thought on the whole Lundstram had a good game. His passing, bar the odd misplaced one (which we can forgive him for at this stage), wouldn't have looked out of place if he was playing for Leicester. I've seen Crowley three times now and in each game he has far too frequently been too slow releasing the ball or guilty of trying too much. There's obviously a lot of talent there but he needs to strengthen up and do things quicker. Lundstram showed lots of quality during the game. Few misplaced passes and losses of possession but had a good game. Crowley looks like a typical Premership academy winger. Bet he's great at 5 a side with twists and turns and no one to mark. If that's how he plays he'll be an impact player off the bench at best.
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Post by Young Money on Jul 20, 2016 10:25:22 GMT
Crowley looks like a typical Premership academy winger. Bet he's great at 5 a side with twists and turns and no one to mark. If that's how he plays he'll be an impact player off the bench at best. Isn't that the opposite of this whole 'we make players play 11-a-side to early, focus on size and strength rather than Spanish passing and ball skills' thing though?
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Post by ontheup01 on Jul 20, 2016 11:10:44 GMT
Isn't that the opposite of this whole 'we make players play 11-a-side to early, focus on size and strength rather than Spanish passing and ball skills' thing though? Think you've may have missed my point. Not concerned about size. Just maturity to do all the things required to win a competitive match IE attack when in possession, pass when pass is on, track players when not in possession etc.. having watched lots of excellent wingers coming out of academies, many struggle to make the transition. Not for a few years at least.
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Post by bigfella72 on Jul 20, 2016 14:40:07 GMT
The one slight concern I saw tonight was Dunkley looks a weak link, his general play was haphazard and his passing was all over the place, I can see Martin and Nelson being the central pairing if Chey doesn't up his game. Have to disagree, thought Dunks was immense!! The usual over confidence trying to play it out from the back but often made up for his mistake!
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Post by bigfella72 on Jul 20, 2016 14:48:27 GMT
Bit of a shaky one tonight, with the odd flash of brilliance. Yeah it's a friendly so no real judgement can be made. Ashby (I think it was him) played really well when he came on. Eastwood looked brilliant. Dunkley was a mixed bag, Taylor was rusty, Ribiero looked poor. Other new signings were uninspiring. But it was an uninspiring game in unforgiving heat. Nobody on either team played really well. Why did Roberts come on so late? I feel like we will be needing him if we don't get any new strikers in. Should have replaced Taylor at half time or something. Came away from the game in a good mood. The Leicester team bus and the Asian businessmen in flashy cars gave me a brief feeling of what he prem would be like. The team looked pretty solid but made a few unforced errors which I hope will all be ironed out by the first game. It has been said but we lack pace in attack. Fishing? If not! Your mental
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Post by aaronoxf on Jul 20, 2016 16:20:13 GMT
Can I just attempt to bring this thread to a nice natural close by saying that it would appear that we now have a team to be proud of, thank you Appleton and co
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Post by finlandia on Jul 20, 2016 16:36:02 GMT
Crowley will be fine - he is not a winger and needs to play behind the strikers. Also he needs to keep it simple everywhere apart from the last third.
We whould be judging all our players after five league games, not one game against the league champions!!!!!
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Post by moroccanyellow on Jul 20, 2016 16:46:23 GMT
Leicester's relentless closing down in packs led to Crowley's poor performance. He will have a lot more time on the ball in League 1 and I, for one, am excited to see what he can do.
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Post by Common Villager on Jul 20, 2016 16:56:31 GMT
Leicester's relentless closing down in packs led to Crowley's poor performance. He will have a lot more time on the ball in League 1 and I, for one, am excited to see what he can do. At risk of sounding negative, he put in two very similar performances in Spain. He's obviously got talent and could be a real asset to the team. Just think he needs to do things in the right areas. All in all last night was promising, though,
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Post by ox18 on Jul 20, 2016 17:02:22 GMT
I think although Lundstram did give the ball away on occasion it was much less frequently than Crowley. I thought on the whole Lundstram had a good game. His passing, bar the odd misplaced one (which we can forgive him for at this stage), wouldn't have looked out of place if he was playing for Leicester. I've seen Crowley three times now and in each game he has far too frequently been too slow releasing the ball or guilty of trying too much. There's obviously a lot of talent there but he needs to strengthen up and do things quicker. Lundstram had a very good game... His movement to get into space to be able to receive a pass is very good. Ashby seems to have a bit of that about him too, and I was quite impressed with him. Crowley seemed to dwell on the ball a bit too much early on, but I thought he got better as the game progressed. I think he'll be very good after a few competitive matches to get up to the pace of games. Rothwell went quite un noticed to me. A few tidy passes, but not much that caught the eye. Pretty sure sure it was Rothwell that had the intercepted pass that gave away their second goal. To me the grass seemed almost as if it needed a tighter cut, the ball never ran quickly and often held up.
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Post by oxfordfan on Jul 20, 2016 17:51:53 GMT
I honestly thought last night was a decent performance against the premiership champions!!!who at times last season tore teams apart city, Chelsea etc. the only negative for me is Taylor yes he holds the ball up, wins a lot of headers but everytime I've seen him play he never looks like scoring!!!!!!!!!dont really see what Appleton sees in him tbh
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Post by Young Money on Jul 20, 2016 17:57:26 GMT
I honestly thought last night was a decent performance against the premiership champions!!!who at times last season tore teams apart city, Chelsea etc. the only negative for me is Taylor yes he holds the ball up, wins a lot of headers but everytime I've seen him play he never looks like scoring!!!!!!!!!dont really see what Appleton sees in him tbh Maybe that he holds the ball up and wins a lot of headers?
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Post by oxfordfan on Jul 20, 2016 18:06:30 GMT
He's a striker they are supposed to put the ball in the back of the net, he's not threatening infront of goal never looks like he's going to score......
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Post by Young Money on Jul 20, 2016 18:08:09 GMT
I'm not a massive fan of his by any means but when he plays that's not his role. Appleton will be happy if he plays well and creates chances for others, regardless of whether he scores or not
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 18:10:32 GMT
A good performance, especially defensively. I thought all of the defenders did well and Eastwood was excellent. Dunkley struggled a little with his distribution as he is hesitant on with his left foot. But as others have suggested, Leicesters workrate and closing down was first class.
One thing that did stand out for me though was the lack of a flair players. Maguire is but isn't 100% fit yet and will shine this season IMO, but to me we have lost of the 3 most flair players in the squad. Hylton, Roofe and COD did make you sit on the edge of your seat. The thought of it actually saddened me a little. We were playing against Leicester and Macca, Serc's weren't playing. Hopefully the next few players we sign will have a lot of pace and a bit of skill to excite.
The League 1 equivalent of Moussa and Gray for Leicester would be nice.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 20, 2016 18:11:21 GMT
He's a striker they are supposed to put the ball in the back of the net, he's not threatening infront of goal never looks like he's going to score...... That's a very simplistic view of a striker. Heskey held the ball up and provided flick on's, far more than he ever scored goals.
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