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Post by finlandia on May 13, 2013 13:08:17 GMT
Again, not meaning to be negative, but wouldn't this just p*ss off Firoz and make negotiations even more strained?
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Post by tonyw on May 13, 2013 13:17:07 GMT
Again, not meaning to be negative, but wouldn't this just p*ss off Firoz and make negotiations even more strained? I'm sure it will p*ss off Firoz - because it's restricting the freedom of what he can do with his asset (or at least the pace at which he can do anything). I don't see why this is a bad thing though!? If anything, surely more likely to make him want to get it off his hands as soon as possible......
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Post by grb on May 13, 2013 13:21:43 GMT
If Ka££am could be trusted then this probably wouldn't be necessary but as we all know he can't be trusted for a second!
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Post by onlyoneunited on May 13, 2013 13:40:49 GMT
There's a difference between maintaining good relations with Kassam and pandering to him.
We need to keep open dialogue with him, but anything that's makes his ownership of the stadium that little bit more troublesome must be a good thing. Presumably he's happy with owning it at the moment because it's a hastle-free source of income. If certain obligations are put on him, he may start to think it's more trouble than it's worth.
This doesn't have that immediate impact on him, but it'll now be part of his thinking that he's not 100% in control of the stadium's destiny. When businessmen lose 100% control they can get jittery.
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Post by Eaststandboy on May 13, 2013 13:42:14 GMT
Does this show Mr K that OCC are on our side?
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Post by mcf86 on May 13, 2013 13:48:36 GMT
Does this show Mr K that OCC are on our side? I'm not sure, but I believe k***am knows OCC are definitely not on his side, which I suppose might mean the same thing.
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Post by Eaststandboy on May 13, 2013 17:03:56 GMT
Just had the OM ask for my views, should be in the paper tomorrow....
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 17:12:47 GMT
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Post by mcf86 on May 13, 2013 17:27:23 GMT
Can OxVox now have the pitch designated a 'Village green' so it can't be built on by k***am?!
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Post by Mark on May 13, 2013 17:38:11 GMT
Can OxVox now have the pitch designated a 'Village green' so it can't be built on by k***am?! If Ken is involved they can have their own village idiot too.
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Post by mcf86 on May 13, 2013 17:42:52 GMT
Keep up the good work!! And many thanks to those prepared to spend time and effort for the cause. They (OxVox Committee) get very little or no credit so it's a thankless task- that's why i'm putting my thruppence worth in as one of the many who want to see the Club successful- but for one reason or another can't find the time and energy to try and do something about it. Thank you OxVox. Pssst, when do I get the cheque?!
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Post by notaswindonfan on May 13, 2013 19:54:28 GMT
view this as a step in the right direction in the long term hope of getting the stadium back in the hands of the club/supporters.
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Post by Common Villager on May 13, 2013 21:07:41 GMT
Fantastic news really. If anything, at least its shown Kassam that the times where he got his own way on every single issue are perhaps coming to an end.
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Post by MJB on May 13, 2013 21:32:50 GMT
This is a positive step. Impressive from OxVox and it has given me the push to become a member today. Good work.
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Post by londonroader on May 13, 2013 21:43:18 GMT
Unless it pisses kassam off and he puts the price up I expect he has spent many thousands trying to block this move, is FK the friend of OUFC or a friend of money?
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Post by cecantena on May 14, 2013 1:38:31 GMT
Well done OxVox - leading the way forward!
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Post by sarge on May 14, 2013 11:33:59 GMT
Great result OxVox :-)
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Post by John Lennon on May 14, 2013 11:47:41 GMT
The more fans that join OxVox, the greater influence they will have, and they will be able to do even more good things.
I am glad joined.
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Post by frankie on May 14, 2013 11:54:38 GMT
With the Ground now being a "Community Asset". Does this now mean that it must remain a sports stadium and the council would not allow a future change of use or demolition. Does Community Assett status cover the surrounding land, access to the stadium or only the stadium? Anyone any ideas? Or is the only (and granted an important only) benefit, the option to buy and notice advantages?
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Post by jammydodger on May 14, 2013 12:38:43 GMT
Does this mean that we aim to buy the ground within 5 years as that is how long the rights last for?
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Post by frankie on May 14, 2013 12:51:31 GMT
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Post by chappers on May 14, 2013 15:10:49 GMT
Does this mean that we aim to buy the ground within 5 years as that is how long the rights last for? Nobody can aim to do anything if Kassam doesn't want to sell, and if he does he can still sell to whoever he wants for whatever price he wants. OUFC could offer £50m and he could still sell it to me for £1 if he so desired. This piece of legislation means that there must be notification of the intention to sell. I'm not entirely sure but I haven't seen anything that says that a vendor of an ACV couldn't go as far as exchange of contracts, before notifying the local authority. Infact maybe someone could clarify at what point during the sale process would the vendor have to notify the local authority.
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Post by Si Bradbury on May 14, 2013 15:38:23 GMT
Does this mean that we aim to buy the ground within 5 years as that is how long the rights last for? Nobody can aim to do anything if Kassam doesn't want to sell, and if he does he can still sell to whoever he wants for whatever price he wants. OUFC could offer £50m and he could still sell it to me for £1 if he so desired. This piece of legislation means that there must be notification of the intention to sell. I'm not entirely sure but I haven't seen anything that says that a vendor of an ACV couldn't go as far as exchange of contracts, before notifying the local authority. Infact maybe someone could clarify at what point during the sale process would the vendor have to notify the local authority. If I may clarify. Once an asset has been Listed nothing further will happen unless and until the owner decides to dispose of it, either through a freehold sale, or the grant or assignment of a lease or more than 25 years. Unless an exemption applies, the owner will only be able to dispose of the asset after a specified window has expired. The first part of this window is a 6 week interim period, which will apply in all cases, from the point the owner notifies the local authority. This will allow community interest groups to make a written request to be treated as a potential bidder. If none do so in this period, the owner is free to sell their asset at the end of the 6 weeks. If a “community interest group” as defined in the Regulations does make a request during this interim period, then the full 6 month moratorium will operate. During this period the owner may continue to market and negotiate sales, but may not exchange contracts (or enter into a binding contract to do so later). There is one exception. The owner may sell to a community interest group during the moratorium period. After the moratorium period – either the 6 weeks or the full 6 months – the owner is free to sell to whomever they choose and at whatever price. Cheers BB
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Post by Si Bradbury on May 14, 2013 15:47:49 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on May 14, 2013 15:56:53 GMT
So at least he must consider the asset as illiquid for 6 months. Nice, good work.
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Post by Mark Sennett on May 14, 2013 17:36:15 GMT
I just wanted to thanks the huge number of fans who have contacted me to pass on positive thoughts on this announcement I've been truly overwhelmed.
We did this for our fans as we felt it was th right thing to do and it offers protection as well as symbolism to what we can achieve and our links with the council and MPs. I'm glad it's been met with such widespread approval. But the posters above are correct we can only represent you and make important moves like this if you Join OxVox so please do consider joining.
Now the hard work continues to try and attain our ultimate ambition of reuniting the club or fans with the stadium.
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Post by John Lennon on May 14, 2013 17:42:29 GMT
I just wanted to thanks the huge number of fans who have contacted me to pass on positive thoughts on this announcement I've been truly overwhelmed. We did this for our fans as we felt it was th right thing to do and it offers protection as well as symbolism to what we can achieve and our links with the council and MPs. I'm glad it's been met with such widespread approval. But the posters above are correct we can only represent you and make important moves like this if you Join OxVox so please do consider joining. Now the hard work continues to try and attain our ultimate ambition of reuniting the club or fans with the stadium. Well done Mark. I hope this helps persuade fans to join OxVox. When you get time, can you pm me your email address please, so I can discuss some of the ideas I have. Thanks.
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Post by Si Bradbury on May 17, 2013 11:39:49 GMT
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Post by onlyoneunited on May 17, 2013 19:14:43 GMT
Am I correct in saying that the report refers to objections made by Firoka to the application?
Some of the objections made refer to the fact that the car-park and the corporate areas of the South Stand are not 'part' of the stadium as a communiyt asset and so should not be included under the term of 'Community Asset'. However, the Council dismissed this as "illogical" saying that the car-park was initially built to service the stadium and so is part of the stadium itself.
This sets a (very minor) precedent for something that may have to be argued quite strongly when we come to buying the stadium - that the car park and conference facilities are part of the package.
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Post by Mark on May 20, 2013 8:06:55 GMT
"The Western stand includes a substantial void area" - understatement of the year.
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