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Post by lyndon on Oct 17, 2017 14:52:41 GMT
Shakespeare sacked...
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Post by eighteen93 on Oct 17, 2017 14:54:33 GMT
Apples ?
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Post by pooshooter on Oct 17, 2017 14:57:34 GMT
Pears
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Oct 17, 2017 15:55:24 GMT
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Post by rickyotto on Oct 17, 2017 15:55:24 GMT
Mapp might just have got his lucky break. They just played 4 tough games against the big four and now have a way easier run so if he takes temporary charge he has a chance to impress. Equally in a fortnight he could be out of a job!
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 17, 2017 16:00:54 GMT
Mapp might just have got his lucky break. They just played 4 tough games against the big four and now have a way easier run so if he takes temporary charge he has a chance to impress. Equally in a fortnight he could be out of a job! That’s exactly how Shakespeare got the job to start with. I can’t see them risking trying it again
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Post by peterdev on Oct 17, 2017 16:06:35 GMT
I wish I could have a three year contract, be poor and get paid in full after just a couple of months of a new season
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Post by mooro on Oct 17, 2017 16:09:44 GMT
Taking caretaker charge for game at weekend, but next appointment expected to come from outside club... (Telegraph)
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Post by Eaststandboy on Oct 17, 2017 16:12:23 GMT
Been watching SSN for 15 or so mins, not once have they mentioned anything about Appleton being caretaker manager!
But then again, no statement from Leicester yet.
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Post by mooro on Oct 17, 2017 16:14:38 GMT
Said at the time, given that Shakespere was unlikely to last the season, that I felt that MAPP will get a manager job in championship sooner rather than later (and probably before Shakespere does), so as far as he will see it will be still be better placed than he was with us and has the added expereince of being in the Premier League for a (albeit) brief period. Just a matter of whether he'll still be in the championship when we get back up there?
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Post by scotters on Oct 17, 2017 16:17:34 GMT
Said at the time, given that Shakespere was unlikely to last the season, that I felt that MAPP will get a manager job in championship sooner rather than later (and probably before Shakespere does), so as far as he will see it will be still be better placed than he was with us and has the added expereince of being in the Premier League for a (albeit) brief period. Just a matter of whether he'll still be in the championship when we get back up there? Would a Championship side want Appleton based on one promotion from L2 and one good season in L1? Not saying they wouldn't but if he leaves Leicester soon, his achievements on paper are surely still relatively limited.
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Post by Eaststandboy on Oct 17, 2017 16:37:42 GMT
Elliott on SSN now. Still no mention of the assistant manager!
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Post by Denissmithswig on Oct 17, 2017 16:38:15 GMT
What’s that saying the grass isn’t always greener? I think MApp May regret the move over time.
As for Shakespear then I don’t have much sympathy for a man who helped Ranieri get the sack.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 17, 2017 16:42:08 GMT
What’s that saying the grass isn’t always greener? I think MApp May regret the move over time. As for Shakespear then I don’t have much sympathy for a man who helped Ranieri get the sack. He won’t care, must earn a fortune from all those plays he wrote
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Post by bashamwonderland on Oct 17, 2017 16:53:03 GMT
Appleton's make or - not break, but fade into mediocrity - moment. Can't see him, a barely established coach with little playing prestige or time to bed into the squad, really getting hold of these players and shaking a great number of wins out of them. Also think anyone brought in would rather have their own assistant manager. Is that not how it goes?? Having said that, Leicester didn't look all that bad last night and will not go down this season.
I hope he manages to make a success of it and nail down the job.
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Post by mooro on Oct 17, 2017 17:08:58 GMT
One view of the odds for replacing Shakespere - interesting to note that MAPP is already drifting in the market, and that Wilder also gets a mention. I'm guessing that Big Sam wont come back, and would not be too sure about many of the others on that list, or that they'd even consider moving to the KP, but may offer Coleman a way out if he wants one (though I would think most Welshmen want him to stay on). It would help if I attached the link I guess www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/leicester-manager-contenders/115663
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Post by outsidethebox on Oct 17, 2017 18:00:08 GMT
What’s that saying the grass isn’t always greener? I think MApp May regret the move over time. As for Shakespear then I don’t have much sympathy for a man who helped Ranieri get the sack. I think there's a million or so reasons why MApp won't regret the move - to quote Jerome Sale.
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Post by upthecowboys on Oct 17, 2017 18:10:08 GMT
Appleton's make or - not break, but fade into mediocrity - moment. Can't see him, a barely established coach with little playing prestige or time to bed into the squad, really getting hold of these players and shaking a great number of wins out of them. Also think anyone brought in would rather have their own assistant manager. Is that not how it goes?? Having said that, Leicester didn't look all that bad last night and will not go down this season. I hope he manages to make a success of it and nail down the job. Me too, good luck MApp. But every media outlet is saying the owners are going for a big foreign name. I reckon MApp will end up leaving before in the next 4-6 weeks but by the end of the season will have a managerial job either in the Championship or a Div 1 club with a bigger budget than ours. Plus he'll have a bigger bank balance compared to 12 months ago!
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 17, 2017 18:15:26 GMT
What’s that saying the grass isn’t always greener? I think MApp May regret the move over time. As for Shakespear then I don’t have much sympathy for a man who helped Ranieri get the sack. I think there's a million or so reasons why MApp won't regret the move - to quote Jerome Sale. Depends, to get that he has to see out the rest of his contract on gardening leave. If he wants to progress his managerial career and get straight back into work he won’t take anywhere near that
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Post by yellowbow on Oct 17, 2017 18:37:54 GMT
Isn't it a great sign of where we are though that, as far as I can tell, not a single person has made noises about trying to get Appleton back here. It shows that in general, everybody is happy with what Pep is doing here and progress has been made
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Post by outsidethebox on Oct 17, 2017 18:45:43 GMT
I think there's a million or so reasons why MApp won't regret the move - to quote Jerome Sale. Depends, to get that he has to see out the rest of his contract on gardening leave. If he wants to progress his managerial career and get straight back into work he won’t take anywhere near that Forgot that not everyone takes my relaxed attitude as to whether they work or not!
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Post by taffyewe on Oct 17, 2017 19:03:08 GMT
I have a lot of respect for Mapp, but he showed very little loyalty and he has self inflicted his career into the world of managerial chaos........well he has been there before, which is why I thought he would have shown more loyalty.
The problem he has is finding a club with a good chairman and a club in a stable condition. It took 12 months to turn OUFC, a lot of chairman would have sacked him by that first xmas. How many will give him the same sort time?
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Post by uptheus on Oct 17, 2017 22:44:43 GMT
Isn't it a great sign of where we are though that, as far as I can tell, not a single person has made noises about trying to get Appleton back here. It shows that in general, everybody is happy with what Pep is doing here and progress has been made Or may be it's not the right thing to do, and Pep deserves a lot more time.
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Post by Junior on Oct 18, 2017 7:10:51 GMT
I have a lot of respect for Mapp, but he showed very little loyalty and he has self inflicted his career into the world of managerial chaos........well he has been there before, which is why I thought he would have shown more loyalty. The problem he has is finding a club with a good chairman and a club in a stable condition. It took 12 months to turn OUFC, a lot of chairman would have sacked him by that first xmas. How many will give him the same sort time? Spot on.
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Post by foley on Oct 18, 2017 7:51:54 GMT
I have a lot of respect for Mapp, but he showed very little loyalty and he has self inflicted his career into the world of managerial chaos........well he has been there before, which is why I thought he would have shown more loyalty. The problem he has is finding a club with a good chairman and a club in a stable condition. It took 12 months to turn OUFC, a lot of chairman would have sacked him by that first xmas. How many will give him the same sort time? Agree. MAPP needs time to turn round a club and these days there aren't that many like DE who will give that time. MAPP appears to have made a poor decision (OK he has been a little unfortunate), as there is no way that I can see him staying at Leicester as Number 1. There is an outside possibility that whoever comes in will still keep MAPP but again it is unlikely.
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Post by Boogaloo on Oct 18, 2017 8:04:01 GMT
I'm as disappointed as everyone that MApp left us, and was slightly plerplexed that he went for an Assistant manager role, rather than a Managerial role. But then again, he maybe he didn't enjoy being manager. Just because you're good at something doesn't necessarily mean you enjoy it. There's a lot of stress involved, your right in the firing line if things don't pan out, and you're only as good as your last match. How many people on here have questioned the credentials of Derek Fazackerley? Exactly - none! The tragic suicide of Gary Speed shows that the life of a manager/head coach probably isn't all it''s cracked up to be.
As for MApp - I hope it works out for him, and I wish him all the best. Leicester have got themselves a good caretaker head coach there. I just hope he can handle the egos in the team that managed to get Ranieri sacked.
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Post by HeyMcAleny on Oct 18, 2017 8:07:43 GMT
Isn't it a great sign of where we are though that, as far as I can tell, not a single person has made noises about trying to get Appleton back here. It shows that in general, everybody is happy with what Pep is doing here and progress has been made We are a fickle bunch. Let's be honest, if this had happened just 3 weeks ago, after we lost to Bury, there would have been plenty on here making noises about Appleton. And if we went on another similar run of losses now, and Mapp was out of work, there would be noises again. We are as loyal to Pep as the last few games.
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Post by horseman on Oct 18, 2017 12:43:45 GMT
Sorry state of affairs when the only reason anyone in their right mind would want the job is the Guarantee of a nice pay off in 12 months or so.
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Post by Boogaloo on Oct 18, 2017 13:56:16 GMT
Regarding Shakespeare, his sacking is ridiculous. Sure they might be sitting in the relegation zone, but they haven't had an easy start to the season.
They've lost 4 games to Arsenal (were winning with 10 mins to go), Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool - you can't fault them for that.
Drew away to Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Nothing wrong with that - they would be expected to be Leicester's rivals, and the aim should always be to win at home, and sneak a draw away from home.
West Brom at home, they probably should have won that, and they did beat Brighton.
So all in all, not too bad a start considering the difficult fixtures they have had so far.
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Post by tonyw on Oct 18, 2017 16:49:05 GMT
Drew away to Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Nothing wrong with that - they would be expected to be Leicester's rivals, and the aim should always be to win at home, and sneak a draw away from home. Except they're not any more, are they - not in the minds of Leicester's fans and owners at least. They've bumped their wage bill up significantly since the title and the Champions League run. It's probably roughly double Bournemouth and Huddersfield's now. Their owners will feel - and probably not unreasonably - that they ought to be finishing in the 6th-10th bracket.....which means picking up some points against the big boys, and winning against the minnows. Bottom 3 was never going to be tolerated for long, especially with a manager that has no track record other than one good caretaker spell.
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Post by horseman on Oct 18, 2017 18:44:15 GMT
Drew away to Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Nothing wrong with that - they would be expected to be Leicester's rivals, and the aim should always be to win at home, and sneak a draw away from home. Except they're not any more, are they - not in the minds of Leicester's fans and owners at least. They've bumped their wage bill up significantly since the title and the Champions League run. It's probably roughly double Bournemouth and Huddersfield's now. Their owners will feel - and probably not unreasonably - that they ought to be finishing in the 6th-10th bracket.....which means picking up some points against the big boys, and winning against the minnows. Bottom 3 was never going to be tolerated for long, especially with a manager that has no track record other than one good caretaker spell. Is/was it unreasonable to sack the man that brought them the impossible dream of winning the title?
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