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Post by tonyw on Oct 18, 2017 20:56:36 GMT
Is/was it unreasonable to sack the man that brought them the impossible dream of winning the title? Sacking Ranieri? Yeah, I thought it was unreasonable. Although interestingly lots of Leicester fans didn't think so, and thought he'd lost the dressing room last year. Sacking Shakespeare, however, was not that crazy and actually seemed inevitable. The guy's not really achieved anything as a manager, and just happened to be right place-right time last year.
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Post by horseman on Oct 19, 2017 10:01:02 GMT
Is/was it unreasonable to sack the man that brought them the impossible dream of winning the title? Sacking Ranieri? Yeah, I thought it was unreasonable. Although interestingly lots of Leicester fans didn't think so, and thought he'd lost the dressing room last year. [/font][/b][/b] Sacking Shakespeare, however, was not that crazy and actually seemed inevitable. The guy's not really achieved anything as a manager, and just happened to be right place-right time last year.[/quote] Another case of player power but in this instance from fairly average players suddenly acting like johnny big boll*x As for the fans a very short sighted view as despite winning the league they were never going to attract another "name" in the game and it was always likely to be back to normal of an average season. As for the owners they were more than willing/happy to try cash in on interest in their players whilst also upping the wage bill...if they felt they could attract another decent foreign manager that is the route they should have taken before offering Shakespeare the caretaker role and subsequently the job only to remove him after what is it 8 games. as i said previously who in their right mind other than with the Guarantee of a big pay off would go near the job? An average team who achieved the impossible that now has players,fans and owners alike believing they are better than they are.
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Post by dolly on Oct 19, 2017 12:54:14 GMT
That's the problem with success and when you sack the manager who brings you the league title, there is nowhere to go. 6months later or so and they now decide they want a "big name" again.
I'm not sure where that leaves Michael Appleton, but certainly not back here. We're backing Pep, he is the the manager now.
(I have a lot of respect for MA, it was the first time in 30 years that I've been disappointed to lose a manager. We would all leave our jobs for more money and a higher profile, we are just more sensitive to it when it concerns our football club. I'm sure he is big enough to live with the decisions he makes.
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Post by Boogaloo on Oct 19, 2017 14:55:04 GMT
Drew away to Huddersfield and Bournemouth. Nothing wrong with that - they would be expected to be Leicester's rivals, and the aim should always be to win at home, and sneak a draw away from home. Except they're not any more, are they - not in the minds of Leicester's fans and owners at least. They've bumped their wage bill up significantly since the title and the Champions League run. It's probably roughly double Bournemouth and Huddersfield's now. Their owners will feel - and probably not unreasonably - that they ought to be finishing in the 6th-10th bracket.....which means picking up some points against the big boys, and winning against the minnows. Bottom 3 was never going to be tolerated for long, especially with a manager that has no track record other than one good caretaker spell. I know these are last year's figures and don't include the likes of Huddersfield or Brighton, but Leicester have the 15th highest wage, and they are 18th. So not too far off where they should be. Given that Shakespeare saved Leicester from relegation last season, and the have played 4 of the big 6 already, I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. But given that winning the Premier League title doesn't buy you that luxury, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-club
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Post by tonyw on Oct 22, 2017 0:56:37 GMT
I know these are last year's figures and don't include the likes of Huddersfield or Brighton, but Leicester have the 15th highest wage, and they are 18th. So not too far off where they should be. Given that Shakespeare saved Leicester from relegation last season, and the have played 4 of the big 6 already, I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. But given that winning the Premier League title doesn't buy you that luxury, I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/01/premier-league-finances-club-by-clubThey're not last year's figures - they're the season before. 2015-16. After they achieved the impossible by winning the title with the 15th highest wage bill, they handed out big raises to the likes of Vardy & Mahrez, and wasted big wages on the likes of Musa and Slimani. By most estimates, they were 10th or 11th last season in wage bill; likely they're around the same spot this year as well.
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