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Post by The Fence End on Jul 26, 2017 21:55:18 GMT
Some great responses here. Playing budget now over £2million, club made a profit, looking at a training ground at Brookes university's Harcourt Hill Campus. Thanks OxVox, it's put my mind at ease. Link: www.oxvox.org.uk/qa-darryl-eales/
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Post by plonker on Jul 26, 2017 22:20:09 GMT
Some very good, very reassuring answers from Darryl. So we need to sell about 850 season tickets to match last seasons figure. We sold 5,353 last season (plus 123 half-season tickets). It's fair to say the increase in season ticket prices won't have actually increased (season ticket) revenue very much, if at all, which is a shame. Season ticket figures taken from here: www.oufc.co.uk/news/2016/november/half-season-tickets2/But like I said, it's nice to have some clarity on a number of issues.
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Post by makv on Jul 26, 2017 23:12:43 GMT
A huge amount of detail in there - esp, re the playing budget (and indications on the transfer budget too). Props to the man for going into such great detail.
(Waits for forum meltdown - slippery hotdogs and all)
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Post by makv on Jul 26, 2017 23:14:08 GMT
Actually - there should be a thread on each question…
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Post by KLYellow on Jul 27, 2017 1:58:44 GMT
Excellent feedback from DE.
Sent from my XIAOMI NOTE PRO using telepathy
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 27, 2017 7:31:12 GMT
The partnership with Oxford Brookes is a positive one. I'd be interested to see peoples take on the senior resourcing issue.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 27, 2017 7:41:15 GMT
A huge amount of detail in there - esp, re the playing budget (and indications on the transfer budget too). Props to the man for going into such great detail. (Waits for forum meltdown - slippery hotdogs and all) What? Like mentioning that people are creaming themselves over unverified assertions and uncontested statements that contradict what's in the public domain. That would just be ingratitude.
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Post by foley on Jul 27, 2017 7:48:36 GMT
Some very good, very reassuring answers from Darryl. So we need to sell about 850 season tickets to match last seasons figure. We sold 5,353 last season (plus 123 half-season tickets). It's fair to say the increase in season ticket prices won't have actually increased (season ticket) revenue very much, if at all, which is a shame. Season ticket figures taken from here: www.oufc.co.uk/news/2016/november/half-season-tickets2/But like I said, it's nice to have some clarity on a number of issues. That's not what Darryl said? He said that 'We have sold 4,502 for this season whereas this time last season we had sold 4,696'. So according to that we are 194 down which is pretty good I would have thought. I guess from that, the assumption is that quite a few will buy ST's before the first home game (one more pay day)? If we sell only a couple of hundred less than last season then the revenue will have increased quite significantly. Hopefully with the couple of quality new players we would expect to sign before the Pompey game we can get close to that number.
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 27, 2017 8:05:07 GMT
Some very good, very reassuring answers from Darryl. So we need to sell about 850 season tickets to match last seasons figure. We sold 5,353 last season (plus 123 half-season tickets). It's fair to say the increase in season ticket prices won't have actually increased (season ticket) revenue very much, if at all, which is a shame. Season ticket figures taken from here: www.oufc.co.uk/news/2016/november/half-season-tickets2/But like I said, it's nice to have some clarity on a number of issues. That's not what Darryl said? He said that 'We have sold 4,502 for this season whereas this time last season we had sold 4,696'. So according to that we are 194 down which is pretty good I would have thought. I guess from that, the assumption is that quite a few will buy ST's before the first home game (one more pay day)? If we sell only a couple of hundred less than last season then the revenue will have increased quite significantly. Hopefully with the couple of quality new players we would expect to sign before the Pompey game we can get close to that number. I suppose the bottom line as far as the club in concerned is revenue from season ticket sales. If the club increases its revenue even with less tickets sold it will feel justified in the price increases. If however the revenue is less or about the same as last season and with fewer people in the stadium then it's a bit of an own goal. Could be that as a result of prices increases less money will be spent in the shop for example, fans only have so much disposable income they're prepared to spend on football.
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Post by charliesghost on Jul 27, 2017 8:13:32 GMT
That's not what Darryl said? He said that 'We have sold 4,502 for this season whereas this time last season we had sold 4,696'. So according to that we are 194 down which is pretty good I would have thought. I guess from that, the assumption is that quite a few will buy ST's before the first home game (one more pay day)? If we sell only a couple of hundred less than last season then the revenue will have increased quite significantly. Hopefully with the couple of quality new players we would expect to sign before the Pompey game we can get close to that number. I suppose the bottom line as far as the club in concerned is revenue from season ticket sales. If the club increases its revenue even with less tickets sold it will feel justified in the price increases. If however the revenue is less or about the same as last season and with fewer people in the stadium then it's a bit of an own goal. Could be that as a result of prices increases less money will be spent in the shop for example, fans only have so much disposable income they're prepared to spend on football. It's not as simple as that. The club has attempted a re-structuring of how he stadium is used. This is a STRATEGIC move, not a tactical one, and if the revenue is the same as last season then it will almost certainly prove a successful strategic move. Why? Because they are going to want, gradually, to push the South Stand into being a variety of premium offers, on a ladder system, by which you might start off with a premium (SSU) seat, then move onto a hospitality package, then onto a lounge seat, then onto a VP package, then onto a box. To do that, they have had to start the process of moving people out of that stand who are never going to be interested in those packages into the North Stand, where there is plenty of room and excellent views. So, broadly, you have premium customers in SSU, families in North Stand, and beery punters in the East Stand. All 'fans', just different types of fans in different set-ups. Frankly, the number of tickets sold to date probably makes this the right judgement call in the short-term, and definitely the right call for the medium term. The revenue may not be entirely commensurate, because there are quite a lot of people who have 'traded down', but the space they free up for more occasional supporters paying higher prices on a match-by-mach basis will more than make up for that.
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Post by m on Jul 27, 2017 8:17:52 GMT
Project gentrification clicks into gear.
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Post by mariokempes on Jul 27, 2017 8:46:50 GMT
I suppose the bottom line as far as the club in concerned is revenue from season ticket sales. If the club increases its revenue even with less tickets sold it will feel justified in the price increases. If however the revenue is less or about the same as last season and with fewer people in the stadium then it's a bit of an own goal. Could be that as a result of prices increases less money will be spent in the shop for example, fans only have so much disposable income they're prepared to spend on football. It's not as simple as that. The club has attempted a re-structuring of how he stadium is used. This is a STRATEGIC move, not a tactical one, and if the revenue is the same as last season then it will almost certainly prove a successful strategic move. Why? Because they are going to want, gradually, to push the South Stand into being a variety of premium offers, on a ladder system, by which you might start off with a premium (SSU) seat, then move onto a hospitality package, then onto a lounge seat, then onto a VP package, then onto a box. To do that, they have had to start the process of moving people out of that stand who are never going to be interested in those packages into the North Stand, where there is plenty of room and excellent views. So, broadly, you have premium customers in SSU, families in North Stand, and beery punters in the East Stand. All 'fans', just different types of fans in different set-ups. Frankly, the number of tickets sold to date probably makes this the right judgement call in the short-term, and definitely the right call for the medium term. The revenue may not be entirely commensurate, because there are quite a lot of people who have 'traded down', but the space they free up for more occasional supporters paying higher prices on a match-by-mach basis will more than make up for that. Charlie you forgot the SSL where do we fit into youre best guess of what the business plan is ? I also think you should think about a better phrase to describe the East Stand ST holders.
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Post by The Fence End on Jul 27, 2017 8:57:48 GMT
It makes me laugh that some people are saying what Daryll said isn't correct because their 'source' has told them otherwise!
He's the Chairman, he is the only person who really knows what is happening at the club BECAUSE HE RUNS THE CLUB!
If he said we were about to sign a player some people would ask him who his source is!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 27, 2017 8:59:40 GMT
The majority of the North Stand is beery. Are we surplus to the future requirements? Will we be breathalysed and frogmarched to the East Stand and forced to stand among the stench, the macrophileous and the plain loathsome?
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 27, 2017 9:09:41 GMT
I suppose the bottom line as far as the club in concerned is revenue from season ticket sales. If the club increases its revenue even with less tickets sold it will feel justified in the price increases. If however the revenue is less or about the same as last season and with fewer people in the stadium then it's a bit of an own goal. Could be that as a result of prices increases less money will be spent in the shop for example, fans only have so much disposable income they're prepared to spend on football. It's not as simple as that. The club has attempted a re-structuring of how he stadium is used. This is a STRATEGIC move, not a tactical one, and if the revenue is the same as last season then it will almost certainly prove a successful strategic move. Why? Because they are going to want, gradually, to push the South Stand into being a variety of premium offers, on a ladder system, by which you might start off with a premium (SSU) seat, then move onto a hospitality package, then onto a lounge seat, then onto a VP package, then onto a box. To do that, they have had to start the process of moving people out of that stand who are never going to be interested in those packages into the North Stand, where there is plenty of room and excellent views. So, broadly, you have premium customers in SSU, families in North Stand, and beery punters in the East Stand. All 'fans', just different types of fans in different set-ups. Frankly, the number of tickets sold to date probably makes this the right judgement call in the short-term, and definitely the right call for the medium term. The revenue may not be entirely commensurate, because there are quite a lot of people who have 'traded down', but the space they free up for more occasional supporters paying higher prices on a match-by-mach basis will more than make up for that. Thanks for your reply, I found it interesting, your analysis of the reasons behind season ticket price hike may proved to be correct, time will tell I suppose. However truth be told I found your post quite depressing. I'm a simple soul and would prefer more supporters in the stadium creating more noise and a better atmosphere for the players to thrive in.
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Post by Long John Silver on Jul 27, 2017 9:11:25 GMT
It makes me laugh that some people are saying what Daryll said isn't correct because their 'source' has told them otherwise! He's the Chairman, he is the only person who really knows what is happening at the club BECAUSE HE RUNS THE CLUB! If he said we were about to sign a player some people would ask him who his source is! Quite. Makes you wonder why so many contradictory statements come from official 'sources' doesn't it...
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 27, 2017 9:17:20 GMT
It's not as simple as that. The club has attempted a re-structuring of how he stadium is used. This is a STRATEGIC move, not a tactical one, and if the revenue is the same as last season then it will almost certainly prove a successful strategic move. Why? Because they are going to want, gradually, to push the South Stand into being a variety of premium offers, on a ladder system, by which you might start off with a premium (SSU) seat, then move onto a hospitality package, then onto a lounge seat, then onto a VP package, then onto a box. To do that, they have had to start the process of moving people out of that stand who are never going to be interested in those packages into the North Stand, where there is plenty of room and excellent views. So, broadly, you have premium customers in SSU, families in North Stand, and beery punters in the East Stand. All 'fans', just different types of fans in different set-ups. Frankly, the number of tickets sold to date probably makes this the right judgement call in the short-term, and definitely the right call for the medium term. The revenue may not be entirely commensurate, because there are quite a lot of people who have 'traded down', but the space they free up for more occasional supporters paying higher prices on a match-by-mach basis will more than make up for that. Thanks for your reply, I found it interesting, your analysis of the reasons behind season ticket price hike may proved to be correct, time will tell I suppose. However truth be told I found your post quite depressing. I'm a simple soul and would prefer more supporters in the stadium creating more noise and a better atmosphere for the players to thrive in. For f*ck's sake, man. Think of the kiddies!
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Post by Yellow River on Jul 27, 2017 9:31:31 GMT
Thanks for your reply, I found it interesting, your analysis of the reasons behind season ticket price hike may proved to be correct, time will tell I suppose. However truth be told I found your post quite depressing. I'm a simple soul and would prefer more supporters in the stadium creating more noise and a better atmosphere for the players to thrive in. For f*ck's sake, man. Think of the kiddies! Reintroduce kids for a quid scheme, stick 'em on the fence (they have good balance at a young age) , Current kids area in the North stand then becomes an overflow for the alcohol induced East Standers. Not sure if that's a tactical or strategic move.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 27, 2017 9:43:46 GMT
Get the little bastards to keep the bogs clean. That's strategic. Oh f*cking yes!
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Post by yellowbow on Jul 27, 2017 10:36:39 GMT
My general feeling after reading the Q&A is one of optimism. DE seems genuinely bemused with some of the negative comments he, probably, reads on here. The problem of the modern age I guess, in the old days we all air our gripes down the local boozer. It was unfortunate that the Sartori business was all so public. All it did was fill supporters heads with unreasonable excitement of large investment and led to destabilising things with, as it appears, anything substantial or definite behind it. Was Sartori really as sincere as we all thought..?
The real elephant in the room is, as ever, the stadium issue. Is Oxvox still in discussions with Kassam over resolving this? Can an alternative site such as WE still be considered? Bonkers maybe but is there a realistic chance that CPF could site a suitable stadium..?
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Jul 27, 2017 10:38:28 GMT
The majority of the North Stand is beery. Are we surplus to the future requirements? Will we be breathalysed and frogmarched to the East Stand and forced to stand among the stench, the macrophileous and the plain loathsome? Speaking as one of the East Stand's Plain Loathsomes, I'm not sure I want you in my stand, thank you. Keep your predominantly negative views about the running of the club to the North please.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 27, 2017 11:18:26 GMT
Although we have currently got less ST holders than last year I Shirley can't be the only 1 who is paying more than double of what I did last season?! Last season I could get a student ST (£140) which isn't bad for a exile who managed 6 home games last season. This year, full paying adult (£330) and still an exile! So to all of you that go every week and had just a 20% increase please stop moaning when I have had to pay an extra £190 for 6 games* a season, thanks *yes I do know it's my own fault to be stupid and pay £55 to watch a league 1 football match!
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Post by plonker on Jul 27, 2017 11:20:29 GMT
Some very good, very reassuring answers from Darryl. So we need to sell about 850 season tickets to match last seasons figure. We sold 5,353 last season (plus 123 half-season tickets). It's fair to say the increase in season ticket prices won't have actually increased (season ticket) revenue very much, if at all, which is a shame. Season ticket figures taken from here: www.oufc.co.uk/news/2016/november/half-season-tickets2/But like I said, it's nice to have some clarity on a number of issues. That's not what Darryl said? He said that 'We have sold 4,502 for this season whereas this time last season we had sold 4,696'. So according to that we are 194 down which is pretty good I would have thought. I guess from that, the assumption is that quite a few will buy ST's before the first home game (one more pay day)? If we sell only a couple of hundred less than last season then the revenue will have increased quite significantly. Hopefully with the couple of quality new players we would expect to sign before the Pompey game we can get close to that number. I'm aware he was stating like-for-like in the Q&A. I meant we have to sell another 850 to match last seasons figure; meaning we have about 2 weeks to sell 850 season tickets. I thought that would have been pretty obvious. As for the amount of of income generated. I guess we'll never know for sure, hopefully it was worthwhile though.
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Post by plonker on Jul 27, 2017 11:26:25 GMT
The majority of the North Stand is beery. Are we surplus to the future requirements? Will we be breathalysed and frogmarched to the East Stand and forced to stand among the stench, the macrophileous and the plain loathsome? Exactly! We better get some singing lessons in - and practise clapping in rhythm - our view is about to change. I have to admit I felt a little out of place watching the Birmingham game with a bunch of olds who wanted to discuss things in a normal manner. I didn't hear one person say c*nt during either of the friendlies, not one! Thankfully the chap next to me much have sensed I was feeling uneasy and let out a 'f*cking hell'. Roll on Pompey...
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Post by makv on Jul 27, 2017 11:28:17 GMT
Although we have currently got less ST holders than last year I Shirley can't be the only 1 who is paying more than double of what I did last season?! Last season I could get a student ST (£140) which isn't bad for a exile who managed 6 home games last season. This year, full paying adult (£330) and still an exile! So to all of you that go every week and had just a 20% increase please stop moaning when I have had to pay an extra £190 for 6 games* a season, thanks *yes I do know it's my own fault to be stupid and pay £55 to watch a league 1 football match! Umm. Why not just pay for the games you can get to instead? Or you just want to top up the club's coffers in an aim to achieve a Top 6 Budget? 😉
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Post by dolly on Jul 27, 2017 11:29:00 GMT
In general, I think we can be happy with the direction the club is going in. Thanks Oxvox, it made good reading.
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 27, 2017 11:40:24 GMT
The majority of the North Stand is beery. Are we surplus to the future requirements? Will we be breathalysed and frogmarched to the East Stand and forced to stand among the stench, the macrophileous and the plain loathsome? What, and get a chocolate stain on ones MA.strum courtesy of a shirter, NEVER!!
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Post by makv on Jul 27, 2017 11:48:52 GMT
A huge amount of detail in there - esp, re the playing budget (and indications on the transfer budget too). Props to the man for going into such great detail. (Waits for forum meltdown - slippery hotdogs and all) What? Like mentioning that people are creaming themselves over unverified assertions and uncontested statements that contradict what's in the public domain. That would just be ingratitude. Yup. Just like that!
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 27, 2017 11:50:42 GMT
Although we have currently got less ST holders than last year I Shirley can't be the only 1 who is paying more than double of what I did last season?! Last season I could get a student ST (£140) which isn't bad for a exile who managed 6 home games last season. This year, full paying adult (£330) and still an exile! So to all of you that go every week and had just a 20% increase please stop moaning when I have had to pay an extra £190 for 6 games* a season, thanks *yes I do know it's my own fault to be stupid and pay £55 to watch a league 1 football match! Umm. Why not just pay for the games you can get to instead? Or you just want to top up the club's coffers in an aim to achieve a Top 6 Budget? 😉 It's my way of supporting the club even if I don't go as they still get my money over the season regardless. Plus it does give me priority when it comes to getting away tickets if it is all ticket as I am more likely to go to away games than home games.
I also did find it handy that if I woke up on a Saturday and suddenly could make a home game then I could just jump in the car and drive down without worrying about getting a ticket sorted by my mates.
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Post by horseman on Jul 27, 2017 12:21:29 GMT
The majority of the North Stand is beery. Are we surplus to the future requirements? Will we be breathalysed and frogmarched to the East Stand and forced to stand among the stench, the macrophileous and the plain loathsome? Think yourself damn lucky, after reading the new requirements i am at the fence end that's if i'm allowed on the train with the first class travellers
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