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Post by finlandia on Apr 20, 2014 19:29:27 GMT
All I know is that we were top of the league under Wilder and now we are going to miss the play-offs. That to me is not the definition of good leadership by the board.
I don't want another season in League 2. I don't want a mass clear out again. I don't want to see our crowds drop. I only want us to be successful and I feel as though we have royally fucked up.
I really can't believe that some of our fans our happy with the current situation and I'd love to know who the.chairmen was getting his advice from
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 19:33:45 GMT
Total crap. Wilder would have got us in the play-offs. Poor, poor decision by IL and even worse the delay in not appointing quicker and then allowing us to strenghten when CW left. It wasn't Lenegan's decision; Wilder just ran away. Of course it was. If Wilder had had the support of the fans he'd have earned a new contract. The muppet fans and their continued diatribe against him convinced lenagan that no matter the end of season position it was time for change.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 19:34:53 GMT
All I know is that we were top of the league under Wilder and now we are going to miss the play-offs. That to me is not the definition of good leadership by the board. I don't want another season in League 2. I don't want a mass clear out again. I don't want to see our crowds drop. I only want us to be successful and I feel as though we have royally f*cked up. I really can't believe that some of our fans our happy with the current situation and I'd love to know who the.chairmen was getting his advice from Enough already. He's gone, it was his decision to abandon ship. And I'm 99.9% certain if he had stayed we would not have been top or top 3 , in the playoffs , maybe but not for certain. Anyway totally irrelevant he's gone were not in them. Get behind the team for the last few games rather than trying to find a scapegoat and we might just might make them
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 19:36:18 GMT
It wasn't Lenegan's decision; Wilder just ran away. Of course it was. If Wilder had had the support of the fans he'd have earned a new contract. The muppet fans and their continued diatribe against him convinced lenagan that no matter the end of season position it was time for change. Bollocks. The fans made it clear at the end of last season they wanted change but lenagan stuck by him, so y would the fans make him think any differently. He didn't have to make a decision as wilder made it for him
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 19:46:23 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left?
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Post by stevegilbert on Apr 20, 2014 19:50:35 GMT
Of course it was. If Wilder had had the support of the fans he'd have earned a new contract. The muppet fans and their continued diatribe against him convinced lenagan that no matter the end of season position it was time for change. Bollocks. The fans made it clear at the end of last season they wanted change but lenagan stuck by him, so y would the fans make him think any differently. He didn't have to make a decision as wilder made it for him Because last summer we had finished 9th so IL could expect people wanting a change. The fact fans were still not happy when we were top of the league and not turning up showed IL that Wilder didn't have the support and so he went with the fans vote as such by holding back on a new contract. If this season has taught me anything is that some people will moan regardless and it is best to just ignore them.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 19:53:55 GMT
Bollocks. The fans made it clear at the end of last season they wanted change but lenagan stuck by him, so y would the fans make him think any differently. He didn't have to make a decision as wilder made it for him Because last summer we had finished 9th so IL could expect people wanting a change. The fact fans were still not happy when we were top of the league and not turning up showed IL that Wilder didn't have the support and so he went with the fans vote as such by holding back on a new contract. If this season has taught me anything is that some people will moan regardless and it is best to just ignore them. So I should ignore you right ??
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 19:58:00 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? 1 - I take being called a muppet as personal abuse and hope ur dealt with appropriately 2- I think we would be 6/7th get a draw or 1-0 win away. Lose the home game and be still in this league next year, with wilder on a 2 year deal that we have to put up with more boring football or pay big money to dispatch him from his role
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 20:02:55 GMT
If you don't think muppet applies to you, don't take it personally.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 20:12:13 GMT
If you don't think muppet applies to you, don't take it personally. Depends which muppet ur implying I am.
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Post by billyox on Apr 20, 2014 20:16:53 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? About the same place what makes you think we would be higher Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 20:21:41 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? About the same place what makes you think we would be higher Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards Can't be bothered to look up the points. But Northampton probably got more than we have since wilder took over. Add them up.
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Post by billyox on Apr 20, 2014 20:25:22 GMT
About the same place what makes you think we would be higher Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards Can't be bothered to look up the points. But Northampton probably got more than we have since wilder took over. Add them up. what the hell have Northampton got to do with it? Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 20:29:33 GMT
Can't be bothered to look up the points. But Northampton probably got more than we have since wilder took over. Add them up. what the hell have Northampton got to do with it? Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards Just an idea of what the same manager would get from two different teams.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 20:30:38 GMT
Maybe they have been playing teams around them and us the same. Trouble being we have only beaten 1 team in the top 9 all season, that includes while wilder was here. Northampton will be the same next year, great to start then totaly found out when u play them a second time
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Post by stevegilbert on Apr 20, 2014 20:33:05 GMT
Because last summer we had finished 9th so IL could expect people wanting a change. The fact fans were still not happy when we were top of the league and not turning up showed IL that Wilder didn't have the support and so he went with the fans vote as such by holding back on a new contract. If this season has taught me anything is that some people will moan regardless and it is best to just ignore them. So I should ignore you right ?? By all means ignore me. However that comment wasn't aimed at you since I agree with a lot of what you say on here. It was more aimed at a select few who seem to have an agenda against the club in some way. I quoted you as I was trying to make the point that even though IL stuck but Wilder in the summer he probably misunderstood how much of the fan base didn't like Wilder and put some of it down to the fact we had just missed out on the play offs again.
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Post by billyox on Apr 20, 2014 20:34:56 GMT
what the hell have Northampton got to do with it? Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards Just an idea of what the same manager would get from two different teams. just for you he has gained them 25 points in the same period oufc gained 17 points and just remember 10 of those games oufc didn't have a manager You call some supporters muppets but can't answer when questioned yourself makes you look a bit of a t*at Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by Mark on Apr 20, 2014 20:38:10 GMT
Just an idea of what the same manager would get from two different teams. just for you he has gained them 25 points in the same period oufc gained 17 points and just remember 10 of those games oufc didn't have a manager You call some supporters muppets but can't answer when questioned yourself makes you look a bit of a t*at Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards So we'd have been better off with Wilder?
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 20:44:32 GMT
So I should ignore you right ?? By all means ignore me. However that comment wasn't aimed at you since I agree with a lot of what you say on here. It was more aimed at a select few who seem to have an agenda against the club in some way. I quoted you as I was trying to make the point that even though IL stuck but Wilder in the summer he probably misunderstood how much of the fan base didn't like Wilder and put some of it down to the fact we had just missed out on the play offs again. Fair enough.
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Post by oufcyellows on Apr 20, 2014 20:45:50 GMT
just for you he has gained them 25 points in the same period oufc gained 17 points and just remember 10 of those games oufc didn't have a manager You call some supporters muppets but can't answer when questioned yourself makes you look a bit of a t*at Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards So we'd have been better off with Wilder? Seriously if someone one agrees with u will u then shut up about it. HES GONE
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Post by billyox on Apr 20, 2014 20:51:56 GMT
just for you he has gained them 25 points in the same period oufc gained 17 points and just remember 10 of those games oufc didn't have a manager You call some supporters muppets but can't answer when questioned yourself makes you look a bit of a t*at Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards So we'd have been better off with Wilder? no we would be in the same place as we are now last season home record won won 9 drew 6 lost 8 this season home record won 8 drew 6 lost 8 with one game to play more or less the same. last season's away record won 10 drew 2 lost 11 this season's away record won 8 drew 5 lost 5. 2 games to play total points last season 65 points this season total points with 3 games to play 62 points we are bang on target to get the same points as last season we were not getting any better under wilder Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by Common Villager on Apr 20, 2014 21:06:14 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? Wilder's obvious lack of belief that we would still be in the automatic places doesn't exactly encourage me to believe we would be either.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 21, 2014 8:07:10 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? Round about where we are, which is what Wilder clearly thought as well. That's why he ran away.
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Post by whathesaid on Apr 21, 2014 8:32:11 GMT
Ok muppets. Where do you think we would be in the league right now if wilder hadn't left? I quite like the muppets. We might be better off, BUT given our current run, Wilder wouldn't have been worse - fairish summary? I think the main problem was that while I applaud the thorough interview process, it seemed like there should have been more energy and urgency about it. If it had taken 3 or 4 weeks, it would have given the new manager time to get to know the players, time to adjust to a new style of play, and possibly identify a loan or two to freshen things up while the loan window was open. I'm generally supportive of IL (he's very seriously supporting us financially after all), however in this I think he should have upped his game - it might have cost us the playoffs and a lot of money in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 8:35:37 GMT
Firstly, the idea of supporting the views of a troll from another club on our own forum makes me feel slightly queasy. Where's our self respect?
Secondly, quite clearly the fans did not drive Wilder out. Can you imagine a feisty character like him allowing himself to be bullied by anyone? If anything, negative vibes from our support would have made him dig his heels in and stay. Let's face it, he didn't give a f*ck about what the fans thought about him, and any lack of respect was mutual.
Where is the evidence for a "hounding out"? A few people on this forum and the occasional shouter at a match? How anyone could interpret that as widespread, organised campaign against Wilder is beyond me.
He left because he had a better offer from Northampton, it's as simple as that. Maybe Lenagan could have tried harder to keep him, or maybe he could see that, yet again, Wilder was on the cusp of f*cking up another season for OUFC.
So, if he'd stayed would we be safely in the play-offs? Well, for the crystal ball gazers out there, NO-ONE CAN SAY. The fact that Northampton's form has improved from rubbish to OK under him has no relevance to OUFC. If anyone thinks the fact that Northampton have won more points than Oxford since he left is significant, they're clutching at straws to prove their pro-CW point.
Lenagan's error was not getting a decent manager in quickly enough. I'm hoping GW turns out to be that decent manager, rather than crying about the departure of a manager who'd reached his limit at Oxford. Good luck with saving Northampton CW. Doing "OK" in L2 is about your limit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 8:43:04 GMT
Agree with you Hoodsy. As CW always said...we move on. We have a big game coming up today. They're top of the league. We have shown we can beat anyone in this league. Let's do it today and give ourselves a chance of putting two divisions between us and the cobblers Hope you like the picture by the ways. Mount Cook in NZ...we have a painting of it being framed for delivery next week
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Post by bazzer9461 on Apr 21, 2014 10:08:06 GMT
This thread so far 4 pages long Pompey 1898 must be laughing his nuts off. He started this thread by ridiculing OUFC about our slide out of the automatics and now te play off's ............ Why give that silly boy something further to take the p*ss out of us down his local watering hole with all the discussions about if we had kept CW or whether he walked or was forced out of the club, For some insults aimed at there own fans seems to be the norm. At the end of the day he " pompey1898 " is laughing.
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Post by whathesaid on Apr 21, 2014 11:18:37 GMT
This thread so far 4 pages long Pompey 1898 must be laughing his nuts off. He started this thread by ridiculing OUFC about our slide out of the automatics and now te play off's ............ Why give that silly boy something further to take the p*ss out of us down his local watering hole with all the discussions about if we had kept CW or whether he walked or was forced out of the club, For some insults aimed at there own fans seems to be the norm. At the end of the day he " pompey1898 " is laughing. So what, if it fuels his incontinence that's his/her problem. If they give a sh*t about us I'm surprised, because they're a massive club, and we're tiny and insignificant compared to their might. Champions elect for next season? Don't think so. In the end the initial question, although badly worded is fair. This was a season where we could have gained automatic promotion. We were in that position, although at the time we couldn't build a gap, and we did 'f**k it up'. Can't deny that. Why did we f**k it up? It's a fair question, but there's not much point in deliberating until we know that we've missed out on the playoffs. It's an important day today as far as results go.
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Post by whathesaid on Apr 21, 2014 11:21:08 GMT
This thread so far 4 pages long Pompey 1898 must be laughing his nuts off. He started this thread by ridiculing OUFC about our slide out of the automatics and now te play off's ............ Why give that silly boy something further to take the p*ss out of us down his local watering hole with all the discussions about if we had kept CW or whether he walked or was forced out of the club, For some insults aimed at there own fans seems to be the norm. At the end of the day he " pompey1898 " is laughing. So what, if it fuels his incontinence that's his/her problem. If they give a sh*t about us I'm surprised, because they're a massive club, and we're tiny and insignificant compared to their might. Champions elect for next season? Don't think so. In the end the initial question, although badly worded is fair. This was a season where we could have gained automatic promotion. We were in that position, although at the time we couldn't build a gap, and we did 'f**k it up'. Can't deny that. Why did we f**k it up? It's a fair question, but there's not much point in deliberating until we know that we've missed out on the playoffs. It's an important day today as far as results go. PS, If we stay down, it could be interesting with matches vs Pompey, Luton and possibly a trip to Notts County
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Post by pompey1898 on Apr 21, 2014 11:24:11 GMT
This thread so far 4 pages long Pompey 1898 must be laughing his nuts off. He started this thread by ridiculing OUFC about our slide out of the automatics and now te play off's ............ Why give that silly boy something further to take the p*ss out of us down his local watering hole with all the discussions about if we had kept CW or whether he walked or was forced out of the club, For some insults aimed at there own fans seems to be the norm. At the end of the day he " pompey1898 " is laughing. I am laughing 117 post and counting, mission accomplished. In all seriousness though I think you guys should have backed Wilder, top 3 for most of the season and tbh you looked a good side especially away from home and when you played us. The guy whos name I cant remember on the right of midfield took out left back apart, admittedly he was only a 17 year old kid but he still beat him every time and got a ball in. And I know most Pompey fans would kill for player like Constable who is a guaranteed goal scorer at this level something we have lacked all season. I mean how many teams virtually force their manager out when they're in the top three and then stay there after getting rid of the guy who got them there ?
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