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Post by outsidethebox on Sept 25, 2014 11:03:43 GMT
I don't believe anyone has. I'm away in 40 minutes for 3 weeks, so....... That's no excuse! Enjoy your break - if it is a break. Bet you still find a way to read/post on here though!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 8, 2014 9:47:38 GMT
EH have replied. They will reconsider putting Priory on 'buildings at risk' register at the 'end of the month'.
I will try to take photos on weekend of 18th (ish) to compare with the before summer images I have on my pooter at home.
If anyone wants to accelerate this (2 people have 'before' images), I will supply contacts by email.
COYPPF!
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Post by Eaststandboy on Oct 12, 2014 20:43:15 GMT
There is a planning permission poster up by the priory, for the hotel. Anyone know how long it's been up?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 21:14:52 GMT
There is a planning permission poster up by the priory, for the hotel. Anyone know how long it's been up? Another hotel? Where's the demand coming from?
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Post by Junior on Oct 12, 2014 23:15:32 GMT
You'd be surprised. Last few months around Oxford has been rammed room wise for the majority of hotels.
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Post by Matt D on Oct 13, 2014 12:21:54 GMT
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Post by Junior on Oct 13, 2014 14:34:54 GMT
Supports what I've experienced work wise the last few months..
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Post by Maurice Earp on Nov 20, 2014 14:29:18 GMT
Grounwork appears to have started next to the Priory and also on the Priory carpark.
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Post by grumpygit on Nov 20, 2014 20:38:51 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if accidentally, the priory either burnt down or was demolished.
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Post by sarge on Nov 20, 2014 20:52:50 GMT
or 'collapses'/ partially collapses ( due to 'foundation' digging in the very close proximity), and for "saftey" reason requires bulldozing???
Owners Oxford City Council , it seems, have been hoodwinked by OGB (again)...its a grade 2 listed building, its Oxford City Councils DUTY to ensure the leaseholder (OGB/Ka$$am) keeps the Grade 2 listed building that is the Priory in a decent condition
...he has failed to do that since he turfed Tim out
..... as for that woman OCC employee who refused permission for the Priory Marquee to stay up, as it was 'not in keeping with the area', I wonder how many Ka$$am sheckles greased her palm to allow a hotel to be erected Immediately NEXT to The Grade 2 listed Priory?...a modern hotel hardly being in keeping either Id say
....Oxford City Council gave assurances they would ensure and enforce the Priory being properly maintained by the leaseholder this summer, hollow assurances it seems to me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 23:17:36 GMT
I think theirs a valid case to investigate bribery and corruption given the disparity between the rejection of a marquee versus permission for a hotel
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Post by Robin Shater on Nov 21, 2014 8:24:52 GMT
I think there is too.
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 21, 2014 9:11:46 GMT
or 'collapses'/ partially collapses ( due to 'foundation' digging in the very close proximity), and for "saftey" reason requires bulldozing??? Owners Oxford City Council , it seems, have been hoodwinked by OGB (again)...its a grade 2 listed building, its Oxford City Councils DUTY to ensure the leaseholder (OGB/Ka$$am) keeps the Grade 2 listed building that is the Priory in a decent condition ...he has failed to do that since he turfed Tim out ..... as for that woman OCC employee who refused permission for the Priory Marquee to stay up, as it was 'not in keeping with the area', I wonder how many Ka$$am sheckles greased her palm to allow a hotel to be erected Immediately NEXT to The Grade 2 listed Priory?...a modern hotel hardly being in keeping either Id say ....Oxford City Council gave assurances they would ensure and enforce the Priory being properly maintained by the leaseholder this summer, hollow assurances it seems to me All very good points, and valid questions Sarge. Though, falling on deaf ears on here I fear- how about a concerted effort to bring this issue to the forefront by contacting the local media, make it public and name and shame? Or at least spell out the responses (Or lack of) from the various parties involved, eg OCC, English Heritage, firoka etc?? By 'concerted effort' I mean encouraging as many people to whom it may concern (U's fans!) to write/phone in to the Ox mail and Radox, etc etc?
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Post by sarge on Nov 21, 2014 9:58:16 GMT
or 'collapses'/ partially collapses ( due to 'foundation' digging in the very close proximity), and for "saftey" reason requires bulldozing??? Owners Oxford City Council , it seems, have been hoodwinked by OGB (again)...its a grade 2 listed building, its Oxford City Councils DUTY to ensure the leaseholder (OGB/Ka$$am) keeps the Grade 2 listed building that is the Priory in a decent condition ...he has failed to do that since he turfed Tim out ..... as for that woman OCC employee who refused permission for the Priory Marquee to stay up, as it was 'not in keeping with the area', I wonder how many Ka$$am sheckles greased her palm to allow a hotel to be erected Immediately NEXT to The Grade 2 listed Priory?...a modern hotel hardly being in keeping either Id say ....Oxford City Council gave assurances they would ensure and enforce the Priory being properly maintained by the leaseholder this summer, hollow assurances it seems to me All very good points, and valid questions Sarge. Though, falling on deaf ears on here I fear- how about a concerted effort to bring this issue to the forefront by contacting the local media, make it public and name and shame? Or at least spell out the responses (Or lack of) from the various parties involved, eg OCC, English Heritage, firoka etc?? By 'concerted effort' I mean encouraging as many people to whom it may concern (U's fans!) to write/phone in to the Ox mail and Radox, etc etc? emails already been sent to the relevant people ...not that I expect anything more than at best similar lip-service, or being totally ignored, as earlier this year nonetheless , emails of complaint sent
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 21, 2014 10:17:25 GMT
All very good points, and valid questions Sarge. Though, falling on deaf ears on here I fear- how about a concerted effort to bring this issue to the forefront by contacting the local media, make it public and name and shame? Or at least spell out the responses (Or lack of) from the various parties involved, eg OCC, English Heritage, firoka etc?? By 'concerted effort' I mean encouraging as many people to whom it may concern (U's fans!) to write/phone in to the Ox mail and Radox, etc etc? emails already been sent to the relevant people ...not that I expect anything more than at best similar lip-service, or being totally ignored, as earlier this year nonetheless , emails of complaint sent If you don't mind me asking, who were the 'emails of complaint' sent to, specifically? Apart from the relevant people at the Council and EH etc, were any sent to our local rag? That's the jist of it for me- to bring this issue into the public domain.
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Post by sarge on Nov 21, 2014 12:34:43 GMT
yep Ox Mail and radox
...neither took any notice earlier this year ( despite radox doing a feature on pubs closing etc)
...and Im not holding my breath this time round either
.... though maybe if theyre both inundated with emails on the subject , Maybe, just maybe they'll take notice?
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 21, 2014 13:11:13 GMT
yep Ox Mail and radox ...neither took any notice earlier this year ( despite radox doing a feature on pubs closing etc) ...and Im not holding my breath this time round either .... though maybe if theyre both inundated with emails on the subject , Maybe, just maybe they'll take notice? I'm going to add my 2P worth, others feel duty bound to follow suit?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:05:24 GMT
Is bill heine still about?
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Post by Junior on Nov 21, 2014 15:25:04 GMT
I emailed the Oxford mail on the back of Sarge's initial postings. Guess what.... I heard nothing back..
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 21, 2014 16:36:07 GMT
I emailed the Oxford mail on the back of Sarge's initial postings. Guess what.... I heard nothing back.. Persistence is key, I have sent emails in the past -saw or heard nothing, until I gave them a ring asking why my email had not been publicised.. Low and behold a day or so later, success! As hinted at, the more who write in with their views on this -and any subject, the better chance of getting a result.
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 25, 2014 18:52:13 GMT
Email to Oxford mail sent. IF any response, I'll report back.
Mean while, has OxVox any more info on this matter? And, what is the view of the Group on this long standing issue??
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 29, 2014 11:16:42 GMT
No response yet as far as, I have taken to looking on the OM website 'Letters' page -and nothing at all on the subject. Does anyone on here get the OM regularly as I'm not sure if the website shows all letters?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 24, 2015 14:05:41 GMT
Well, the sodding hotel was in the original 05_00287_FUL-GRANT_OF_PLANNING_PERMISSION-567519 grant of planning permission that they were trying to revise last year. The OCC planning search system is down so we can't see what happened to the re-application, but it's pretty obvious it's been granted. The re-application seemed to have been withdrawn at one point but I don't know if / in what form it was made again.
The original 567519 application contained a clause that required the refurbishment and maintenance of the Priory building which was not changed in the re-application as far as I could see (I last looked a couple of months ago) and it appeared it was to be used as part of the hotel facilities.
My guess is that the Priory building is pretty safe and it'll probably be turned into a restaurant or offices for the hotel (it didn't seem to be physically joined which is probably just as well since a pre-fabricated cheap as chips hotel would be like a monstrous fiend on the face of a much-loved carbuncle.) I wouldn't rule a covered walkway out since the hotel carpark is where the Priory carpark is now and the hotel ends quite close (too bloody close imo) to the Priory.
Unless there are discussions going on between the various parties I doubt very much that the Priory will function as a "supporters' club" as it did in happier times.
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Post by sarge on Feb 28, 2015 18:38:20 GMT
Heard the other day about several pieces of forthcoming legislation about to be passed before parliament disbands pre general election, both regarding public houses...one piece of legislation is,the way I understand it, regarding relaxing the requirements for pubs owned by brewery's or chain owners such as Punch Taverns, tieing the licence to only buy draught beer and lager from them...the other, which is more significant as far the Priory goes, is legislation tightening up the requirements for pubs that have closed to be given planning permission to change use from that of public house ..... I would've thought the local CAMERA branch will have more detailed information...are there any CAMERA members active on this forum who can provide any more information?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 28, 2015 21:13:06 GMT
Not a CAMRA member, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Priory continues to be licensed in some form or other after the hotel is built; worth thinking about tho.
A case in point for this is the rather lovely Half Moon in Cuxham. Worked well for the couple now in the Red Lion in Britwell, but failing despite a very decent landlord having it last; freehold's up for sale now. Would be a shame to lose it. (sorry to derail)
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Post by bazzer9461 on Feb 28, 2015 21:18:41 GMT
If Kassam has any thoughts about the priory he should thin about doing it up and using as part of the hotel, At least it will probably have customers every day with the passing hotel trade.
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Post by Robin Shater on Mar 1, 2015 9:49:46 GMT
Heard the other day about several pieces of forthcoming legislation about to be passed before parliament disbands pre general election, both regarding public houses...one piece of legislation is,the way I understand it, regarding relaxing the requirements for pubs owned by brewery's or chain owners such as Punch Taverns, tieing the licence to only buy draught beer and lager from them...the other, which is more significant as far the Priory goes, is legislation tightening up the requirements for pubs that have closed to be given planning permission to change use from that of public house ..... I would've thought the local CAMERA branch will have more detailed information...are there any CAMERA members active on this forum who can provide any more information? Sounds like a job for Maurice Earp
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Post by Maurice Earp on Mar 1, 2015 10:18:56 GMT
Heard the other day about several pieces of forthcoming legislation about to be passed before parliament disbands pre general election, both regarding public houses...one piece of legislation is,the way I understand it, regarding relaxing the requirements for pubs owned by brewery's or chain owners such as Punch Taverns, tieing the licence to only buy draught beer and lager from them...the other, which is more significant as far the Priory goes, is legislation tightening up the requirements for pubs that have closed to be given planning permission to change use from that of public house ..... I would've thought the local CAMERA branch will have more detailed information...are there any CAMERA members active on this forum who can provide any more information? Sounds like a job for Maurice Earp Cheers Mr Shater
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Post by sarge on Mar 1, 2015 12:59:52 GMT
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 1, 2015 13:03:18 GMT
Probably a loop hole in that it won't be operating as a pub when the legislation comes into force.
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