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Post by londonroader1 on Mar 29, 2011 12:02:37 GMT
I hope standing never comes back in all seater stadiums. All seaters look amazing, all this atmosphere rubbish that people go on about is rubbish. They dont have a problem with atmosphere at Man Utd, Arsenal or Wembley and those stadiums are amazing. Vote no on standing! Man UTD ! Arsenal ! Wembley even ? Atmosphere ? Premiership ? Ur having a laugh ? OUFCX
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Post by mrdiaz on Mar 29, 2011 12:22:11 GMT
Luckily standing will never be allowed in the Kassam Stadium. Simply because i dont think we will buying it within the next 10 years. And currently if we did buy it there is no need to complete the 4th stand, and there would not be a need to change the current stands. And unreserved seating will never happen, so that atmosphere wont improve if your saying its because you cant sit together. However there was no problem with atmosphere when we played Luton last season.
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Post by Long John Silver on Mar 29, 2011 12:50:01 GMT
Luckily standing will never be allowed in the Kassam Stadium. Simply because i dont think we will buying it within the next 10 years. And currently if we did buy it there is no need to complete the 4th stand, and there would not be a need to change the current stands. And unreserved seating will never happen, so that atmosphere wont improve if your saying its because you cant sit together. However there was no problem with atmosphere when we played Luton last season. Try giving one valid reason, supported by facts, why a standing area would be bad and who would lose out if there was one. the fact you have to pick out one game over a season ago highlights how bad the atmosphere regularly is.
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Post by m on Mar 29, 2011 13:18:38 GMT
Luckily standing will never be allowed in the Kassam Stadium. So if it's not in your direct interest then you're pleased it won't happen even though it has no possible negative effect on you? There's a name for people like you.
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Post by Yellowbrains on Mar 29, 2011 13:26:57 GMT
Luckily standing will never be allowed in the Kassam Stadium. Simply because i dont think we will buying it within the next 10 years. And currently if we did buy it there is no need to complete the 4th stand, and there would not be a need to change the current stands. And unreserved seating will never happen, so that atmosphere wont improve if your saying its because you cant sit together. However there was no problem with atmosphere when we played Luton last season. That's lovely but we've played 47 home matches since then and the atmosphere has been sh it at most of those, so clearly there is a problem with the atmosphere.
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Post by sarge on Mar 29, 2011 17:05:57 GMT
Luckily standing will never be allowed in the Kassam Stadium. Simply because i dont think we will buying it within the next 10 years. And currently if we did buy it there is no need to complete the 4th stand, and there would not be a need to change the current stands. And unreserved seating will never happen, so that atmosphere wont improve if your saying its because you cant sit together. However there was no problem with atmosphere when we played Luton last season. one word sums you up pal- w*nker
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Post by sarge on Mar 29, 2011 17:13:59 GMT
I hope standing never comes back in all seater stadiums. All seaters look amazing, all this atmosphere rubbish that people go on about is rubbish. They dont have a problem with atmosphere at Man Utd, Arsenal or Wembley and those stadiums are amazing. Vote no on standing! f*ck OFF TO THE PREMIERSHIT RIP OFF STADIUMS _-AND CHOKE ON YOUR PRAWN SANDWICHES
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Post by mrdiaz on Mar 30, 2011 12:21:34 GMT
Sarge your such a bellend, you make me laugh!
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Post by mrdiaz on Mar 30, 2011 12:26:49 GMT
Oh forgot to add, all seater stadiums are easier to police. So id think the old bill would be against standing area's.
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Post by sarge on Mar 30, 2011 12:38:35 GMT
Sarge your such a bellend, you make me laugh! join me in the Priory before the Wycombe game Mr Diaz and we can discuss the pros n cons of all seaters and the current national campaign by FSF along with the Don Foster MP bill re SAFE standing ( going through the house of commons 17th June) face to face and hopefully I'll make you laugh some more ;D - I'll buy the first round too- cant promise Prawn Sarnies but they do very good baps See you there? - I'll be in or around the Marquee from 1pm till 2.50pm... will you?
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Post by hairy on Mar 30, 2011 15:44:35 GMT
He will probably be in the ground by 12 sampling the delights of a plastic seat, happy in the knowledge that we will all be able to share that joy with him. Or more likely he doesnt even go to games anyway but likes how all seaters look on the tele, probably just another one of moobs many multis.
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Post by sarge on Mar 30, 2011 15:54:25 GMT
He will probably be in the ground by 12 sampling the delights of a plastic seat, happy in the knowledge that we will all be able to share that joy with him. Or more likely he doesnt even go to games anyway but likes how all seaters look on the tele, probably just another one of moobs many multis. ;D no doubt I'll find out on April 9th
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Post by one trick Raponi on Mar 30, 2011 19:07:26 GMT
Agree with you that the FSF don't seem to be getting the message out very well about this petition. One of the main arguments put forward by the 'authorities' is that there isn't much call from fans for standing and nearly all are perfectly happy to be seated. The FSF should be getting the knowledge about the existence of the petition to all supporters at League and Conference level matches. Have you asked the FSF to make something available from their site, so that any fan or set of supporters can download and print out a flyer? Yes LJS I've them to make downloadable petition forms and flyers available. The FSF's standpoint at the moment is to see how the online petition goes. The petition needs vast numbers of supporters on it to really make the authorities - not least the MP's - take note. The best way to get to as many fans as possible as quickly as possible is to petition fans at games up and down the country until the end of the season. I hope the FSF agree soon to paper petitions as well and give us the downloads for us to get on with it. We'll soon see. We'll be attending Oxford Brookes again next Thursday with Kelvin Thomas and Mick Brown to see the students presentations on the surveys they've done on our behalf. We'll ask Kelvin then for permission to go around with the FSF safe standing petition before our remaining home games of the season.
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 1, 2011 12:24:08 GMT
Sarge your such a bellend, you make me laugh! join me in the Priory before the Wycombe game Mr Diaz and we can discuss the pros n cons of all seaters and the current national campaign by FSF along with the Don Foster MP bill re SAFE standing ( going through the house of commons 17th June) face to face and hopefully I'll make you laugh some more ;D - I'll buy the first round too- cant promise Prawn Sarnies but they do very good baps See you there? - I'll be in or around the Marquee from 1pm till 2.50pm... will you? I can see there isnt much point in meeting to talk about standing, you want it, i dont, neither of us will change our minds. Dont like Prawns but their burgers are pretty good providing the BBQ is there.
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Post by hairy on Apr 1, 2011 15:12:53 GMT
join me in the Priory before the Wycombe game Mr Diaz and we can discuss the pros n cons of all seaters and the current national campaign by FSF along with the Don Foster MP bill re SAFE standing ( going through the house of commons 17th June) face to face and hopefully I'll make you laugh some more ;D - I'll buy the first round too- cant promise Prawn Sarnies but they do very good baps See you there? - I'll be in or around the Marquee from 1pm till 2.50pm... will you? I can see there isnt much point in meeting to talk about standing, you want it, i dont, neither of us will change our minds. Dont like Prawns but their burgers are pretty good providing the BBQ is there. What do you have against other people standing? You would still be able to sit so I cant see what your problem is?
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Post by sarge on Apr 1, 2011 15:19:37 GMT
join me in the Priory before the Wycombe game Mr Diaz and we can discuss the pros n cons of all seaters and the current national campaign by FSF along with the Don Foster MP bill re SAFE standing ( going through the house of commons 17th June) face to face and hopefully I'll make you laugh some more ;D - I'll buy the first round too- cant promise Prawn Sarnies but they do very good baps See you there? - I'll be in or around the Marquee from 1pm till 2.50pm... will you? I can see there isnt much point in meeting to talk about standing, you want it, i dont, neither of us will change our minds. Dont like Prawns but their burgers are pretty good providing the BBQ is there. Ive mentioned it to staff at the Priory, theyve said theyll provide a plastic seat so you feel 'at home'- gwan, a beer or two n a chat comparing viewpoints, who knows you might even change yours
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 1, 2011 15:40:46 GMT
I can see there isnt much point in meeting to talk about standing, you want it, i dont, neither of us will change our minds. Dont like Prawns but their burgers are pretty good providing the BBQ is there. What do you have against other people standing? You would still be able to sit so I cant see what your problem is? I guess the only thing i have against it, is it spoils the look of the stadium. I dont agree that standing in the kassam would make the atmosphere better. As its down to design. The roof at the manor was a lot lower. and didnt have massive gaps at the end of each stand. And i guess with the petition etc people are hoping that one day they will have standing in the kassam stadium. We have everyone putting how much they would like it, i just put forward how i would not like it. Now im the enermy that eats prawn sandwiches for just saying my point......maybe my point doesnt come across that well. I remember the old days in the london road end, you occasionally got some people that decided they would push down from the back or when we scored people would go forward, meaning a crushing effect on people stood next to the bars (supports?). But i will admit i dont know this new style of safe standing that they have in germany. so maybe the crushing effect has gone?
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 1, 2011 15:41:03 GMT
I can see there isnt much point in meeting to talk about standing, you want it, i dont, neither of us will change our minds. Dont like Prawns but their burgers are pretty good providing the BBQ is there. Ive mentioned it to staff at the Priory, theyve said theyll provide a plastic seat so you feel 'at home'- gwan, a beer or two n a chat comparing viewpoints, who knows you might even change yours Can they provide a bucket of water and a carrot for my horse as well?
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Post by sarge on Apr 1, 2011 16:01:31 GMT
Ive mentioned it to staff at the Priory, theyve said theyll provide a plastic seat so you feel 'at home'- gwan, a beer or two n a chat comparing viewpoints, who knows you might even change yours Can they provide a bucket of water and a carrot for my horse as well? if ya ask nicely I expect ;D
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Post by sarge on Apr 1, 2011 16:12:16 GMT
What do you have against other people standing? You would still be able to sit so I cant see what your problem is? I guess the only thing i have against it, is it spoils the look of the stadium. I dont agree that standing in the kassam would make the atmosphere better. As its down to design. The roof at the manor was a lot lower. and didnt have massive gaps at the end of each stand. And i guess with the petition etc people are hoping that one day they will have standing in the kassam stadium. We have everyone putting how much they would like it, i just put forward how i would not like it. Now im the enermy that eats prawn sandwiches for just saying my point......maybe my point doesnt come across that well. I remember the old days in the london road end, you occasionally got some people that decided they would push down from the back or when we scored people would go forward, meaning a crushing effect on people stood next to the bars (supports?). But i will admit i dont know this new style of safe standing that they have in germany. so maybe the crushing effect has gone? Thats the point of SAFE standing MrDiaz- the clue is in the word SAFE the german/austrian rail seats ( yes they DO have fold down/fold up flush seats) have rails that go the length of each step- although they are the blueprint it doesnt mean that they will be the one adopted after 17th June- there were FSF magazines ( for free) at the priory last home game with an infomative article ( with pictures) on the very subject of SAFE standing. There is a national campaign ongoing as well as the Stand up for Standing campaign at Oxford United as 'WE' without a fourth stand are in a unique position to be at the forefront of SAFE standing at football. Hence the Fans Forums, written surveys AND online survey ( on this and other Oxford utd fans on line forums) at recent home games- the results of which ( brookes marketing students have been comissioned by OUFC to survey their fans on the subject as part of their course!), will be made on thursday 7th april. As you seem uninformed about any of what has been going on of late on the subject of SAFE standing - again, meet me before the wycombe game in the priory marquee for beers and, for you , an enlightening (perhaps) chat ?
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Post by hairy on Apr 1, 2011 16:34:55 GMT
What do you have against other people standing? You would still be able to sit so I cant see what your problem is? I guess the only thing i have against it, is it spoils the look of the stadium. I dont agree that standing in the kassam would make the atmosphere better. As its down to design. The roof at the manor was a lot lower. and didnt have massive gaps at the end of each stand. And i guess with the petition etc people are hoping that one day they will have standing in the kassam stadium. We have everyone putting how much they would like it, i just put forward how i would not like it. Now im the enermy that eats prawn sandwiches for just saying my point......maybe my point doesnt come across that well. I remember the old days in the london road end, you occasionally got some people that decided they would push down from the back or when we scored people would go forward, meaning a crushing effect on people stood next to the bars (supports?). But i will admit i dont know this new style of safe standing that they have in germany. so maybe the crushing effect has gone? Its hardly a beautiful stadium is it? How could putting a terrace at one end not be better than looking at a fence? Would add some character to the ground if not all the stands were the same style. Also isnt it a bit selfish to object on the grounds that it will spoil your view when you glance around the place, bit nimby-ish. I actually agree with you that the ground loses a lot of atmosphere due to its bad design, in the unlikely event that I ever become a billionaire the ground will be torn down and rebuilt closer to pitch, with the stands tight together, low roofs and (of course) standing.
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 1, 2011 17:11:50 GMT
Sorry i should have put it spoils the look of a stadium, not the kassam. If the corners and 4th stand were in, all seater would look amazing, like Readings ground.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Apr 1, 2011 17:15:10 GMT
Sorry i should have put it spoils the look of a stadium, not the kassam. If the corners and 4th stand were in, all seater would look amazing, like Readings ground. Ah yes, that well known architectural masterpiece that is the madejski! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by hairy on Apr 1, 2011 18:26:06 GMT
Do you not think Borrusia dortmunds ground looks good with 26,000 in their terrace? Did the kop not look and sound magnificent when in full voice? Think those places are slighly more amazing to look at than the madjeski!
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Post by Yellowbrains on Apr 1, 2011 20:23:23 GMT
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Post by Beav on Apr 1, 2011 21:10:53 GMT
Those in favour of increasing atmosphere at Oxford by safe standing say 'aye' - Everyone bar Diaz 'aye'
State your reasons - Improved atmosphere, ground character and general match experiene
Those against the standing - Mr Diaz
State your reasons - It dunt look nice!
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Post by hairy on Apr 2, 2011 0:04:04 GMT
Worse thing is Darlington are actually playing during that photo, be like wycombe when they move to their new ground.
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 4, 2011 12:26:41 GMT
Those in favour of increasing atmosphere at Oxford by safe standing say 'aye' - Everyone bar Diaz 'aye' State your reasons - Improved atmosphere, ground character and general match experiene Those against the standing - Mr Diaz State your reasons - It dunt look nice! Beav your argument for Standing is just as weak as my argument against! What proof is there that it improves atmosphere? Adds character? how can you put that as a reason. General match experience?
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Post by sarge on Apr 4, 2011 13:28:59 GMT
Those in favour of increasing atmosphere at Oxford by safe standing say 'aye' - Everyone bar Diaz 'aye' State your reasons - Improved atmosphere, ground character and general match experiene Those against the standing - Mr Diaz State your reasons - It dunt look nice! Beav your argument for Standing is just as weak as my argument against! What proof is there that it improves atmosphere? Adds character? how can you put that as a reason. General match experience? You can stand with who you want to, and take friends/family who occasionally go along and watch the match with them, not have to either try and change your (season) ticket for that game to where you can all watch the match together, or be spread all over the place- hardly conducive to a family atmosphere. - you're not obscuring anyone who wants to sit down's view, from a safety angle its much more efficient to clean a (SAFE) standing terrace than it is to clear a seating area in an emergency ( remember the horrific scenes at Bradford when the rubbish under the wooden stand caught fire!)- At almost ALL top flight games masses of those in what are supposed to be all seater stadiums stand up for the duration( near impossible for stewards to get them to sit down isnt it?- Man U, Liverpool, etc etc etc- and without any safety/ crush barriers, if someone stumbled or lost their footing the potential injuries to both them and others are unthinkable) With the freedom of choice to stand on a safe standing terrace for those who want to stand, stewarding the seating would become a lot simpler with no -ones view being blocked by those wanting to stand as there would be a terrace for standing! In a (safe standing) terrace if someone in your vicinity was a loudmouth or offensive or not nice to be near you can move away easily- not so in a reserved seating area. As for atmosphere- with small groups of the more vocal elements spread out in clumps in an all seater, reserved seating stand, the atmosphere is diluted- with a low roofed ( possibly double decker - with seating above?) safe standing terrace, the more vocal supporters would be very likely to congregate there, instant atmosphere increase, which would then in likely hood inspire others in other areas to contribute to the noise and atmosphere too. As well as the overall matchday experience- plus loud, vocal home support should lift the mighty yellows and make our home stadium into the fortress it should be ( IMO it would be unlikely to loose 8 + home games in a season under those particular circumstances- stand up for the freedom of choice to stand safely at football matches!!!) Incidently, the results of the Brookes uni fans survey on the subject of Safe standing at Oxford United's home stadium are being presented this thursday... watch this space So you hooking up for a beer n chat at the Priory on Saturday then Mrdiaz, like I said, I'll get the first round ?
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Post by mrdiaz on Apr 5, 2011 12:25:13 GMT
Yellowbrains you missed a picture of a great stadium, with a mixture of both seating and standing www.footballgroundguide.com/morecambe/Sarge with your reason i can see an added advantage to standing, i did love the days at the manor. Freedom to move etc. So would unreserved seating make the atmosphere better? upset a lot of people i guess but not me for once having to move seats this weekend in order to make sure i get 3 seats together.
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