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Post by socrates on Feb 18, 2011 16:11:42 GMT
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 18, 2011 17:15:22 GMT
No, the player who takes a shot is on the near side. Therefore, he should be at the near post (keep in mind two other factors - he's off his line, so it looks like he's beyond the post when he isn't and also that there are defenders covering the middle of the goal). If he stood two foot closer to the middle of the goal the striker would have had a very, very easy near post shot surely? Oh, and also, having re-watched, there is a Stevenage player right in front of him. On another note, how unlucky can we get with the post? I swear if the goal had been about an inch wider we'd have won that 3-0
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Post by Worcester Yellow on Feb 18, 2011 18:26:35 GMT
Looking at those highlights. So unlucky. Craddocks first that hit the post would have been a stunning goal (as would theirs to be fair)
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Post by mancyox on Feb 18, 2011 19:17:22 GMT
Agree with Socrates on this, I think Clarke's positioning is very strange. Although one of the first things you learn as a keeper is to cover your near post, a floated in shot/cross like that shouldn't have had to have been cleared off the line, no way.
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Post by Yellowbrains on Feb 18, 2011 19:47:14 GMT
Agree with Socrates on this, I think Clarke's positioning is very strange. Although one of the first things you learn as a keeper is to cover your near post, a floated in shot/cross like that shouldn't have had to have been cleared off the line, no way. Tell that to Victor Valdes!
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 18, 2011 19:52:15 GMT
Agree with Socrates on this, I think Clarke's positioning is very strange. Although one of the first things you learn as a keeper is to cover your near post, a floated in shot/cross like that shouldn't have had to have been cleared off the line, no way. Then what do you suggest he should have done?
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Post by improvox on Feb 19, 2011 7:46:19 GMT
Its a bit hard to tell as the camera doesnt pan out towards Clarke until the shot has already been fired in. But I would say that if Clark was 2 foot nearer the centre of the goal it would have left his near post very unprotected.
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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2011 10:29:05 GMT
just watched it again
he is definitely out of position by 2 yards. pause it on 01.23
his right foot is outside of the line with the post
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 19, 2011 10:48:10 GMT
The player with the ball is coming in from nearly the corner of the box. You're actually right, he is beyond the post, but having watched it again the player is coming from a fairly tight angle, so he's actually supposed to step beyond the post to close the angle down. I really can't see what's wrong with his positioning. If the player was coming in from the centre of the box then yes, he'd be out of position, but he isn't.
I guess at the very least, it's not extraordinary. You'll find most goalkeepers stand in that position when a player's coming in from the side of the box. Of course, that doesn't necessarily make it the right position.
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Post by socrates on Feb 19, 2011 11:24:40 GMT
sorry matey. we're gonna disagree again
he is only in the right position if the stevenage player is travelling into the box along the byline
there is no way he should be on the post with the ball in front of the goal like that
the fact that wright has to go back to the line is the big giveaway that clarke has it wrong
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 19, 2011 11:44:15 GMT
Surely by that logic any time a keeper can't get to a shot, they've got their positioning wrong?
But if the player is coming in from the corner of a box, pretty much every time you will see the keeper standing by the post. And again, there's 2 or 3 players on the line for Oxford in the middle, so Clarke is just covering more of the goal and not allowing an easy option at the near post.
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Feb 19, 2011 18:10:10 GMT
He can save penalty's though!
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Post by mancyox on Feb 19, 2011 19:58:28 GMT
Agree with Socrates on this, I think Clarke's positioning is very strange. Although one of the first things you learn as a keeper is to cover your near post, a floated in shot/cross like that shouldn't have had to have been cleared off the line, no way. Then what do you suggest he should have done? Easy for me to say this now, but he probably should have been stood by his post to begin with and then taken a step or two to his left as the ball was played to the edge of the box, rather than being a yard beyond his post to begin with!! I'm not having a major knock at Clarkey, he's been class for us and had a great game today.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 20, 2011 13:31:10 GMT
Then what do you suggest he should have done? Easy for me to say this now, but he probably should have been stood by his post to begin with and then taken a step or two to his left as the ball was played to the edge of the box, rather than being a yard beyond his post to begin with!! I'm not having a major knock at Clarkey, he's been class for us and had a great game today. Oh, I never read it like that. I just can't quite see where you're coming from really
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