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Post by paulayres on Feb 16, 2011 7:38:02 GMT
"We don't want a year of consolidation, we want to go for it" Chris Wilder is 100% correct in what he said last night. We are in a great position to push on and get promotion this season. What would it mean to Oxford fans to see the Scumdon drop down and we take their place in div 1.
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Post by scoob on Feb 16, 2011 8:32:08 GMT
I agree with that, we must go for it.
Even if we get into the Play-Offs and get put out in the semi's then we will have gained financially to help us push on next season. Same if we lose in the final and if we win the extra cash from those games will help us push on.
We will be strong enough financially to survive at League One then can consolidate there if we need to.
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Post by KLYellow on Feb 16, 2011 9:21:58 GMT
Thats great to see Chris say that. Its what I have also been feeling and thinking as well. We are in a great position and almost impossible we will get relegated, so lets go for shit or bust.
Meaning, play however needed away to get a point or 3, if that means parking the bus..
At home, attack attack attack, play 4-3-3 if need be and go for it, even if it means a 4-3 win
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Post by alessandro on Feb 16, 2011 9:48:52 GMT
Yep agreed. Even a play off place would mean:
1. Players are incentivised to join in the summer. 2. Players want to stay as there would be a buzz. 3. We would gain financially.
(4. I also think we may attract good players in the summer by virtue of the summer tour to the US. CW likes to sign players up early, and a tour to the US for a League 1/2 player is quite an incentive and rarity for his career.)
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Post by macleanmassivefan on Feb 16, 2011 11:05:28 GMT
I agree with everyone's comments this could be the start of something special for the whole of oufc and it's fans. COME ON YOU YELLOWS!
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Post by oxyellow on Feb 16, 2011 11:55:44 GMT
We have hit form just at the right time! we are more than capable of a play-off push, and I think the players are confident! you can tell that from our recent home performances.
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Post by Yellowbrains on Feb 16, 2011 12:11:33 GMT
I think that if we are going to make a playoff challenge it will be a very close run thing indeed. There's still plenty of catching up to do, especially when you factor in games in hand, that will definitely count against us.
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Post by scoob on Feb 16, 2011 12:57:59 GMT
The games in hand will definitely have an impact but some people seem to think that every team will win every catch up game. That is not going to happen. I have done a prediction that takes into account the games left and the recent form (ave points from last 8 games) of all teams and I have us ending up in 10th on 66 points. However when I look at our actual game I predict 73 points (8 wins, 5 draws, 2 losses) based on the home or away form of the relevant teams.
These are the main catch up dates when we are not playing:
Tuesday, 22 February 2011
Accrington v Crewe Bradford v Chesterfield Cheltenham v Torquay Hereford v Northampton Macclesfield v Morecambe Port Vale v Stevenage Southend v Barnet Wycombe v Burton Albion
Tuesday, 8 March 2011
Accrington v Stockport Aldershot v Torquay Barnet v Wycombe Bradford v Rotherham Burton Albion v Lincoln City Bury v Morecambe Chesterfield v Northampton Macclesfield v Crewe Shrewsbury v Port Vale Southend v Gillingham Stevenage v Hereford
Tuesday, 22 March 2011
Aldershot v Barnet Burton Albion v Stevenage Crewe v Accrington Morecambe v Macclesfield Port Vale v Hereford Torquay v Cheltenham
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Post by basingstokeox on Feb 16, 2011 16:03:43 GMT
As Fergie says points in hand are better than games in hand as you have to win them, but in all honesty to make the playoffs will be an ask, but not an ask above us
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Post by realist on Feb 16, 2011 17:25:09 GMT
Ther is a longway to go yet.We had our usual after christmas till march wobble pre december.Every team in this division seems capable of beating each other.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 18:55:57 GMT
am i the only one who still believes we could get the autos?
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Post by stokeu on Feb 16, 2011 21:10:50 GMT
I think you may be Notts
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Post by Best Mate on Feb 16, 2011 22:28:15 GMT
We have a shot. We just need to win as many as possible.
Big game on Saturday - need a win.
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Post by Mark on Feb 16, 2011 22:37:37 GMT
Ther is a longway to go yet.We had our usual after christmas till march wobble pre december.Every team in this division seems capable of beating each other. what 'usual post Christmas wobble'? When Wilder was appointed he got around 100 points in the calendar year from Jan'09 to Dec'09. There was the Spring '10 wobble in 2009/10 season, but we regrouped to win promotion at end of 09/10. Then the Autumn 2010 in season 10/11 reorganisation / wobble, but I think we are a stronger side, now ready to hit it on for the second half of the season.
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Post by KLYellow on Feb 17, 2011 0:35:17 GMT
am i the only one who still believes we could get the autos? Yes you are unfortunately. We need to go on a major run for that and our form isnt simply good enough. With other teams having games in hand, we really need to put together say a run of 5 or 6 wins on the trot. With the games in hand other teams have, based on their average points per game, would put us currently around 13th, so still a few points away from the playoffs
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Post by Mark on Feb 17, 2011 0:50:05 GMT
am i the only one who still believes we could get the autos? Yes you are unfortunately. We need to go on a major run for that and our form isnt simply good enough. With other teams having games in hand, we really need to put together say a run of 5 or 6 wins on the trot. With the games in hand other teams have, based on their average points per game, would put us currently around 13th, so still a few points away from the playoffs Why won't we go on a run? We did when Wilder took over for almost a calendar year. This statistical analysis trying to break the future down according to the past is just ridiculous. The team is different, get a fecking life and stop trying to apply history to the future.
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Post by scoob on Feb 17, 2011 1:36:20 GMT
am i the only one who still believes we could get the autos? Yes you are unfortunately. We need to go on a major run for that and our form isnt simply good enough. With other teams having games in hand, we really need to put together say a run of 5 or 6 wins on the trot. With the games in hand other teams have, based on their average points per game, would put us currently around 13th, so still a few points away from the playoffs I don't know where you get 13th from. We are currently in 11th place on average points per game. If you use your logic then we will need 76 points (Shrewsbury in third place on average is 1.64 pts per game) to get into the auto play off positions so 32 points from 15 games so 10 wins, 2 draws & 3 losses would do it. Personally I will be surprised if we make into the auto positions but it but it is far from impossible at the moment. However, some of the top teams are on very poor form so who knows. The top 8 teams points from tally from the last 8 games are Rotherham & Port Vale 9/24, Chesterfield 11/24, Bury & ourselves 12/24, Gillingham & Wycombe 13/24, Shrewsbury 16/24. The season really starts on Saturday and everything to play for!!
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Post by Best Mate on Feb 17, 2011 10:51:31 GMT
With our current run of away games coming up - I think to stay in the mix - we really do need to win on sat.
Of course - a draw would keep the dream alive.
I just think it would continue the momentum of a good 4 points from 6 with Hereford then to come before 3 away comes (2 of which are very tricky).
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Post by KLYellow on Feb 18, 2011 0:13:57 GMT
Yes you are unfortunately. We need to go on a major run for that and our form isnt simply good enough. With other teams having games in hand, we really need to put together say a run of 5 or 6 wins on the trot. With the games in hand other teams have, based on their average points per game, would put us currently around 13th, so still a few points away from the playoffs Why won't we go on a run? We did when Wilder took over for almost a calendar year. This statistical analysis trying to break the future down according to the past is just ridiculous. The team is different, get a fecking life and stop trying to apply history to the future. Slappy, this is Div 1 not the conference. Also to be honest, we had a poor squad then, now its a lot better. I agree, we could go on a run, but at the moment we are scraping tight wins and draws. The next 5 games are important, but I think once we get to 10 games left we can see where we are at. Also conincidently, with 10 games left we start with 3 home games
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Post by Si Bradbury on Feb 18, 2011 9:42:08 GMT
Chris Wilder is hugely ambitious and rightly so. He shouldn't accept and clearly isn't happy for consolidation. He wants to take this club onwards and up the leagues. He has done a truly remarkable job in the circumstances and he has taken our club to a different place.
He has re-built this club on a shoe-string and is a shrewd, upcoming manager who seems to be learning all the time. In my view, he deserves all the support and backing he wants/expects from the Football Club in order for us to match his ambitions.
After all, every fan surely wants the same ambitions as that of our manager. Really nice to see Tufty come out this week and say he isn't happy with consolidation!
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Post by KLYellow on Feb 18, 2011 10:31:54 GMT
Chris Wilder is hugely ambitious and rightly so. He shouldn't accept and clearly isn't happy for consolidation. He wants to take this club onwards and up the leagues. He has done a truly remarkable job in the circumstances and he has taken our club to a different place. He has re-built this club on a shoe-string and is a shrewd, upcoming manager who seems to be learning all the time. In my view, he deserves all the support and backing he wants/expects from the Football Club in order for us to match his ambitions. After all, every fan surely wants the same ambitions as that of our manager. Really nice to see Tufty come out this week and say he isn't happy with consolidation! Bull, totally agree, and all we can do is try. I am just managing peoples expectations regarding playoffs and automatic promotion. I still think we need 10 wins or 30 points however we get them out of the next 15 games. To give some perspective, over a season that would around 90 points. Its a tall ask, but even if we finish around 10th, players, management and supporters deserve a big pat on the back
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Post by ox12tohp19 on Feb 18, 2011 13:03:55 GMT
Wilder is much cleverer than many give him credit for.
Earlier in the season he was talking about 'taking each game at a time', 'not getting carried away with a good run of results' but now we are on a solid base but conversely start to feel content over a point at Stevenage, he ratchet's it up a notch.
His adaptive style of Management opens him up for criticism on consistency of message, but it has served us well, and leaves me in great optimism of what is to come.
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Post by paulayres on Feb 22, 2011 7:45:36 GMT
Why won't we go on a run? We did when Wilder took over for almost a calendar year. This statistical analysis trying to break the future down according to the past is just ridiculous. The team is different, get a fecking life and stop trying to apply history to the future. Slappy, this is Div 1 not the conference. Also to be honest, we had a poor squad then, now its a lot better. I agree, we could go on a run, but at the moment we are scraping tight wins and draws. The next 5 games are important, but I think once we get to 10 games left we can see where we are at. Also conincidently, with 10 games left we start with 3 home games have I missed a season?? We are sitting in a very good position just outside the playoffs with a side that has started to beleive in themselves. Automatic promotion is well within our grasp and our away form is looking good. We can get the points needed so lets back the team for a great run in. Maybe our owner will have a change of heart and put some money in to strengthen the squad (left back) while the loan window is open. Would investment in the side be worth the risk when we are so close to getting back to back promotion. I bet Wilder would like to strengthen for the final push.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2011 8:42:38 GMT
Back to back would be great. More history possibly. I don't think any team has done five to three and three to one. There is a long way to go and Gillingham and Southend are all playing well enough
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