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Post by Worcester Yellow on Feb 7, 2011 19:56:21 GMT
Midson has to have one of the most loyal fanbase in the world. Despite doing relatively little in his entire Oxford career, he still has people calling for him after an away draw against promotion chasers. The fact is that Maclean Craddock and Beano are all better players, and Alfie in his time with the club has been effective off the bench on more than one occasion.
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:13:27 GMT
"people WERE and still are" Make up your mind, should he start or come off the bench? How about the games where he came off the bench and did nothing? Would Alfie have been a better option then? Hindsight is a great thing isn't it? What a strange fascination you have. Support the team, not the player. Meaning clubs were after him in the Transfer window, And clubs are still interested in taking him on loan now. He is out of contract in January. Remember Wilder said there was no interest shown in his player's at all! If that's the case why did Matt Green go to Cheltenham there must of been interest shown then..................! Why would i spout about on a forum who told me clubs are interested in Jack Midson? I'm not that daft if you read the Torquay forums your see on there they were after him........! Headlesspnub, I support the team thanks.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 7, 2011 20:21:06 GMT
Matt Green I believe was sent on loan significantly after Wilder said that. Alternatively, Wilder offered him around since he wasn't playing. That doesn't prove anything. Again, may be wrong, but criticising someone for believing what they read in a paper and then going on to spout a fans' forum as absolute truth is a bit iffy. What time period were these Torquay fans 'after' midson? And was it actually the club after midson or just the fans? And did they have a reliable source if it was the club? And how does any of this justify midson's selection?
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:22:26 GMT
Midson has to have one of the most loyal fanbase in the world. Despite doing relatively little in his entire Oxford career, he still has people calling for him after an away draw against promotion chasers. The fact is that Maclean Craddock and Beano are all better players, and Alfie in his time with the club has been effective off the bench on more than one occasion. Cheltenham? Scored 3 goals against this season. Southend? Forma loan club i'm sure he had a point to prove. Gillingham? Why not bring him on could of nicked us a goal.
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Post by oufcyellows on Feb 7, 2011 20:23:15 GMT
papers can't be believed but everyone check out the font of all truth the Torquay fans forum. brilliant quote.
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:29:01 GMT
Matt Green I believe was sent on loan significantly after Wilder said that. Alternatively, Wilder offered him around since he wasn't playing. That doesn't prove anything. Again, may be wrong, but criticising someone for believing what they read in a paper and then going on to spout a fans' forum as absolute truth is a bit iffy. What time period were these Torquay fans 'after' midson? And was it actually the club after midson or just the fans? And did they have a reliable source if it was the club? And how does any of this justify midson's selection? Torquay fans, I know idea where they got this from but what can i say. I know my stuff trust me!
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:34:07 GMT
papers can't be believed but everyone check out the font of all truth the Torquay fans forum. brilliant quote. Oi Torquay fans were saying it, But i know my sh!t trust me.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 7, 2011 20:35:08 GMT
Yes but you've just said you don't know where they got it from. It all just strikes me as a bit speculative. I see no more reason to believe them than Wilder.
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:40:41 GMT
But i know Torquay were and still are chasing him. Torquay manager after the game Midson scored the hat-trick stated i would love to of had him here, Or something on the lines of that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 20:41:48 GMT
Don't be silly LLC. He said "trust me" and "FACT" on the same thread. He clearly knows what he's talking about and isn't just spouting bollox. Hearsay is a much more reliable source than the manager, obviously. That's why Constable signed for Wigan AND Swindon in the transfer window.
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Post by longliveclarkey on Feb 7, 2011 20:41:09 GMT
Is that how you know it? I think any manager would say that after a striker just scored 3 against them, but that's exactly the time they wouldn't be chasing a striker. Highly unlikely a striker who's just scored a hat trick will be going anywhere.
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 7, 2011 20:51:11 GMT
Guys come on. How can i tell you how i know my stuff? Let me let you into a secret when we was going sign Midson i was the 1st person to state it was going to happen knowone new anything about and it did! Same about we was going to sign Ryan Clarke not forgetting we was signing Creighton to!
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Post by oufcyellows on Feb 7, 2011 20:55:22 GMT
what did he say? ?
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Post by salaghaf on Feb 7, 2011 22:26:57 GMT
I can understand why you might want to play Midson in the first half away from home.
If you want a more "physical" presence. Basically a headless chicken running around disrupting the home defence.
And this is not a critisicm - he is actually very effective in this role. And, unlike the other 3 in recent weeks, he does always seem to be in the right place at the right time when crosses come in. Shame he is an awfull striker of the ball though...........
He will worry defences - especially when the opposition has the majority of possesion. He actually, in a funny way, plays a bit like a poor man's Dean Whitehead. Hustling and bustling - disrupting the opposition with the odd glimpse of genius.
If we want to get it down, and pass it about, then he is not the man for the job. He is ineffective when we play like this - especially at home.
He is also not an impact player. In reality, we have to admit that he is not a goalscorer. Not at this level anyhow.
So, i might have given him a first half at Gillingham or Southend. He was pretty awful at Aldershot though.
I think the time has come for us to admit (and believe me, it is difficult for me to say this given his tremendous enthusiasm and "lust" for football) that he is not going to help us progress.
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Post by salaghaf on Feb 7, 2011 22:31:04 GMT
Guys come on. How can i tell you how i know my stuff? Let me let you into a secret when we was going sign Midson i was the 1st person to state it was going to happen knowone new anything about and it did! Same about we was going to sign Ryan Clarke not forgetting we was signing Creighton to!
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Post by socrates on Feb 8, 2011 11:39:09 GMT
I can understand why you might want to play Midson in the first half away from home. If you want a more "physical" presence. Basically a headless chicken running around disrupting the home defence. And this is not a critisicm - he is actually very effective in this role. And, unlike the other 3 in recent weeks, he does always seem to be in the right place at the right time when crosses come in. Shame he is an awfull striker of the ball though........... He will worry defences - especially when the opposition has the majority of possesion. He actually, in a funny way, plays a bit like a poor man's Dean Whitehead. Hustling and bustling - disrupting the opposition with the odd glimpse of genius. If we want to get it down, and pass it about, then he is not the man for the job. He is ineffective when we play like this - especially at home. He is also not an impact player. In reality, we have to admit that he is not a goalscorer. Not at this level anyhow. So, i might have given him a first half at Gillingham or Southend. He was pretty awful at Aldershot though. I think the time has come for us to admit (and believe me, it is difficult for me to say this given his tremendous enthusiasm and "lust" for football) that he is not going to help us progress. whitehead should sue for that remark
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Post by salaghaf on Feb 8, 2011 12:29:50 GMT
I can understand why you might want to play Midson in the first half away from home. If you want a more "physical" presence. Basically a headless chicken running around disrupting the home defence. And this is not a critisicm - he is actually very effective in this role. And, unlike the other 3 in recent weeks, he does always seem to be in the right place at the right time when crosses come in. Shame he is an awfull striker of the ball though........... He will worry defences - especially when the opposition has the majority of possesion. He actually, in a funny way, plays a bit like a poor man's Dean Whitehead. Hustling and bustling - disrupting the opposition with the odd glimpse of genius. If we want to get it down, and pass it about, then he is not the man for the job. He is ineffective when we play like this - especially at home. He is also not an impact player. In reality, we have to admit that he is not a goalscorer. Not at this level anyhow. So, i might have given him a first half at Gillingham or Southend. He was pretty awful at Aldershot though. I think the time has come for us to admit (and believe me, it is difficult for me to say this given his tremendous enthusiasm and "lust" for football) that he is not going to help us progress. whitehead should sue for that remark ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2011 15:47:39 GMT
Maclean what has he done for us? Ummm Yeah that's what i thought jack crap. Midson scored more than him this season for us, Drop him play Midson ffs. Has to be a p*ss take Fair enough to think that Midson should be given a chance, but if he is then it certainly shouldn't be in place of MacLean
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Post by dontwannagohome (banned) on Feb 12, 2011 18:38:29 GMT
Ok Midson isn't as good as Maclean but what i don't understand is why Midson isn't brought on as a sub when were losing. Midson done well today great assist i though could of gone down but carried on.
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Post by Yellowbrains on Feb 12, 2011 21:39:19 GMT
Have to say I felt for him when he was taken off today, didn't feel he'd done much wrong. However, I was impressed with Hackney's performance and it was just what we needed. The unfortunate thing for Midson is just that he never seems to fit into the side and he never seems to offer what we need.
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Post by secondsout on Feb 12, 2011 21:54:49 GMT
You could tell that we had had Rotherham watched a fair bit because our staring lineup today was set up to get the ball in the air because they were dreadful at it.
Midsons our tallest striker and the best in the air, says a lot for the aerial prowess of our strikers!, so Wilder was right to pick him.
He was good in bursts, such as carrying on and setting up Heslop, and won his fair share of headers, but he came off at the right time because he had started to become ineffective.
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