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Post by d3d4 on Nov 12, 2017 20:43:21 GMT
Hi all,
Is it me or does this Oxford side fail to learn from its mistakes time and time again. Very tired of what is becoming the inevitable. Have a listen to our latest podcast here discussing all things LG1&2 and of course OUFC
PODCAST
Thanks James
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Post by dabigfella on Nov 13, 2017 17:02:44 GMT
Unlikely with the current managerial playing system. The players aren't good enough to succeed with it. Change the manager's mind (or change the manager) and things might improve.
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Post by bigronaldo on Nov 14, 2017 12:05:00 GMT
So angry at our toothless performance on saturday, i decided that i would avoid the navel gazing and ritual burning on here that usually follows a dismal display.
Losing Nelson for the season is a serious blow. Not only to our fading hopes of a play-off place, but to staving off the slide into a relegation soup. Within that oh-so tepid match last Saturday lies some very worrying signs that all is not well.. The passing, the movement, even on a throw-in is limited to say the least, and while we are playing one up front who cannot retain possession or boss a centre-back, then we cannot hope to bring others in to feed on the scraps. I feel genuinely sorry for Jack Payne who is doing his tireless best to make things happen. So, what can can be done with the players available? Well Ribiero must return for Tiendalli, who clearly seems to not have a clue about where to go or who to mark. Surely now that Nelson is out, one of williamson or Martin must want to show that they can step up? Ruffels must return! Either for Ledson or rothwell. Lets play mowatt or xemi instead of henry, at least for half the game, and try and get more support up front. More shots on the oppositions goal has to be a priority with short corners used to that aim alone, not an excuse for us to pass left and right all the way back to Eastwood.
Its not only nasa that should be looking for Intelligent Movement into space.
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Post by davox on Nov 14, 2017 12:20:20 GMT
Iâm not being negative but I think weâre in a very bad place and that was before Nelsons injury. It doesnât look like weâve got players who want to wear the shirt and give their all despite what is said in interviews. I want to see the spirit of Peterborough back. Pep is just getting them to play the same tune every game and theyâre not feeling it. We need to be more direct early in games and put teams on the back foot. However, Pep is just asking the players to patiently build up and theyâre panicking cos it ainât working.
Added to this we have a serious lack of pace in our team particularly at the back. I think we either add a good quick centre back and an effective forward to replace Obika in transfer window or weâre in a relegation fight.
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Post by perryman on Nov 14, 2017 15:22:08 GMT
At the start of the season when Henry was playing on the left he looked very average. Then Hall got injured and he was played on the right, he suddenly looked a very good player. Now Hall is fit he has been switched back to the left, he again looks ordinary.
I would rather put Henry back to the right and then try to solve the problem of where to play Hall, perhaps switch Payne to the left and put Hall in the support role? Or keep him on the bench as an impact player, giving Pep the option of doing something different with a substitution rather than swapping a like for like player.
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Post by shosho on Nov 15, 2017 10:05:03 GMT
So angry at our toothless performance on saturday, i decided that i would avoid the navel gazing and ritual burning on here that usually follows a dismal display. Losing Nelson for the season is a serious blow. Not only to our fading hopes of a play-off place, but to staving off the slide into a relegation soup. Within that oh-so tepid match last Saturday lies some very worrying signs that all is not well.. The passing, the movement, even on a throw-in is limited to say the least, and while we are playing one up front who cannot retain possession or boss a centre-back, then we cannot hope to bring others in to feed on the scraps. I feel genuinely sorry for Jack Payne who is doing his tireless best to make things happen. So, what can can be done with the players available? Well Ribiero must return for Tiendalli, who clearly seems to not have a clue about where to go or who to mark. Surely now that Nelson is out, one of williamson or Martin must want to show that they can step up? Ruffels must return! Either for Ledson or rothwell. Lets play mowatt or xemi instead of henry, at least for half the game, and try and get more support up front. More shots on the oppositions goal has to be a priority with short corners used to that aim alone, not an excuse for us to pass left and right all the way back to Eastwood. Its not only nasa that should be looking for Intelligent Movement into space. We have had the 9th most shots in the league (208, with Peterborough top with 245). We've had the 3rd most on target - 97 (Peterborough top with 105) We therefore get 46% on target - the most in the league. Nearly 28% of attempts we have on target result in a goal...11th in the league. (Fleetwood top with 45%!!!) For reference, 25% of attempts on target last season resulted in a goal. Conclusion - we are a decent attacking outfit, if you want to critique our attacking output I would suggest where we have our attempts from in the issue: We may get plenty on target, but those efforts from outside the box carry a pretty low chance of a goal. Compare to Rotherham - the top scorers in the league: The density of attempts close and centre of goal comapred to us is stark. In short, the closer we are to goal, and the more central we are = more chance of scoring.
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Post by yellowbow on Nov 15, 2017 11:12:23 GMT
Which means getting decent crosses in the box and strikers on the end of them!
Maybe we need to go back to basics and simplify things: 2 solid midfielders, two quick tenacious wingers who can put in a decent cross and help out their full backs when necessary and two decent strikers who will 'put themselves about' and get on the end of things..?
Call me old fashioned...
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Nov 15, 2017 11:35:51 GMT
Which means getting decent crosses in the box and strikers on the end of them! Maybe we need to go back to basics and simplify things: 2 solid midfielders, two quick tenacious wingers who can put in a decent cross and help out their full backs when necessary and two decent strikers who will 'put themselves about' and get on the end of things..? Call me old fashioned... For what it's worth, I agree with you. The problem is that (for example) we simply haven't got 'two quick tenacious wingers'! Add Ruffels back into the midfield and you've added a bit of solidity. Strikers - we only have two fit(ish) ones. How decent they are is up for debate...
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Nov 15, 2017 11:58:21 GMT
How many of those âshots on targetâ are blocked by opposition defenders rather than saved by the goalie? Quite a lot, Iâd guess! Something to do with the time it takes us to work our way into the opposition half? The Thomas goal on Saturday was a quick through-ball with only a couple of defenders there to prevent the shot on goal, if I remember correctly. Why canât this happen more often?
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Post by monsieurgrumpy on Nov 15, 2017 16:39:38 GMT
Which means getting decent crosses in the box and strikers on the end of them! Maybe we need to go back to basics and simplify things: 2 solid midfielders, two quick tenacious wingers who can put in a decent cross and help out their full backs when necessary and two decent strikers who will 'put themselves about' and get on the end of things..? Call me old fashioned... For what it's worth, I agree with you. The problem is that (for example) we simply haven't got 'two quick tenacious wingers'! Add Ruffels back into the midfield and you've added a bit of solidity. Strikers - we only have two fit(ish) ones. How decent they are is up for debate... Neither have we got attacking players who can get their heads on the end of crosses, or even attack space at the far post. With such limited options up front, it can't be very challenging for opposing defenders to keep us out.
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Post by yellowbow on Nov 15, 2017 17:42:24 GMT
For what it's worth, I agree with you. The problem is that (for example) we simply haven't got 'two quick tenacious wingers'! Add Ruffels back into the midfield and you've added a bit of solidity. Strikers - we only have two fit(ish) ones. How decent they are is up for debate... Neither have we got attacking players who can get their heads on the end of crosses, or even attack space at the far post. With such limited options up front, it can't be very challenging for opposing defenders to keep us out. With regards to the winger situation, putting Hall on the left and Henry on the right and telling them to get crosses in from out wide wouldn't go a miss. Strikers - yep we're short but I think if Thomas and Obika are played in tandem they'd worry league 1 defences, and in Rothwell and even Ruffels, we have midfielders capable of attacking the box late and getting on the end of things similar to what Sercombe used to do, with Ledson sitting in. Of course that leaves the question of where would Payne fit in. Maybe play him up top feeding off of either Obika or Thomas..? I just think a solid 442 would help stabilise things for a while, maybe until January when we can see where we are and what's available. But what do I know..
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Post by shosho on Nov 17, 2017 15:26:10 GMT
How many of those âshots on targetâ are blocked by opposition defenders rather than saved by the goalie? Quite a lot, Iâd guess! Something to do with the time it takes us to work our way into the opposition half? The Thomas goal on Saturday was a quick through-ball with only a couple of defenders there to prevent the shot on goal, if I remember correctly. Why canât this happen more often? I donât have number, but do have the visuals.... âdefendedâ - âSavedâ - Ideally we would play through Payne, in behind, but teams are more than wise to that now.
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