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Post by dubaiyellow on Sept 23, 2017 17:40:32 GMT
Thought i heard him say "long time" regarding Thomas injury....in fact ...i know he said it He did. But there was a subsequent correction on RadOx put down to “lost in translation”. Maybe that was the problem with todays game (instructions) as well?
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Post by behindthegoal on Sept 23, 2017 17:40:48 GMT
Obika claimed in Ox mail he was fully fit and raring to go
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Post by Toeby on Sept 23, 2017 17:41:57 GMT
Broken record here but please, Hall on the left, Henry on the right. The only time today that one of our wingers got behind the fullback was when Hall won the penalty. On the right Yep. We don't stretch the game anywhere near enough though. Everything goes into the middle of the pitch and it gets way too congested. Hall is always checking back or looking to cut in. Same as the right footed player on the left. van Kessel ran into trouble time and time again first half. If you have players that can go wide and down the side then it stretches teams and makes defenders face their own goal, which a defender never wants to do. So many times we go side to side, and back to Ledson and hope he can hit a Hollywood 50 yard pass to open the game up. Walsall had one up top and 5 across the middle for much of today and they could just keep showing our wide players inside knowing they'd run into traffic. If Mousinho or Ricardinho had been overlapping then we may have had a bit of joy but they're not going to do that. Ricardinho struggles to last 90 minutes and Mousinho is not a marauding right back.
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Post by makv on Sept 23, 2017 17:42:11 GMT
Thought i heard him say "long time" regarding Thomas injury....in fact ...i know he said it So he must only be talking about Obika then? I actually thought he was talking about Mehmeti
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Post by dubaiyellow on Sept 23, 2017 17:45:34 GMT
So he must only be talking about Obika then? I actually thought he was talking about Mehmeti l thought he was referring to someone who was injured? (Which would rule Mehmeti out, who is only unfit right?) , radox may have back tracked and say it was lost in translation (i didn't hear that bit) but they also picked up on it pretty much straight after and it sounded like that to me too.
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Post by oxfordboy on Sept 23, 2017 17:46:44 GMT
I assume you're asking about the Ruffels bit? It's more than fair if people want him in the lineup, but at 2-0 down with 20 odd minutes to go he's not the player to bring on So who was? No one that was on the bench, I think you're taking this all a bit too seriously, it was an awful game to watch, the idea of a solid and steady centre mid being the guy to come on and change things for us in the circumstances made me laugh, lighten up
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 23, 2017 17:51:35 GMT
A terrible, lethargic performance. It was disappointing to see the lack of energy after a week off - Walsall were really up for it and we did not do much for most of the game. The players looked flat. I don't want to see Rothwell and Ledson in the midfield again as yet again, one or the other goes missing and the team stops playing. Ruffels may not do the sexy stuff, but he keeps the team ticking and must come back in on Tuesday.
Mousinho is ok at right back, but I think a fit Ribiero has to come back into the team to help the team going forward. Henry needs to start the next game for me, not an eye popping performance but was involved in the all the best bits of we play we had in the 2nd half. Don't get the criticism of Gino at times. It was obvious from game 1 he wasn't a Hylton type runner, so expecting him to do so is asking a lot. Payne has really struggled in the last few games and I wonder if Mowatt would be a better option for a game or two to make the oppo plan for something different.
The officials were terrible today. The ref spent more time in the centre circle than either midfield, and thus got so many decisions wrong because he was not up with play. But Walsall were smarter to his shiteness than we were. Not sure how their left back got away with fouling Hall all game and not getting booked.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 23, 2017 17:53:00 GMT
Big mistake not having a forward on the bench. Given our injury record I'd have started with Obika and used Gino as an impact sub. Plan B, if needed, would have been Nelson up front with Canice coming in a RB and Mous moving over. Yes, it means losing a midfielder, but we'd be in the last chance saloon at that point. We seem to have a team of crocs at present. Shame James Roberts couldn't have been on the bench.
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Post by makv on Sept 23, 2017 17:54:45 GMT
No one that was on the bench, I think you're taking this all a bit too seriously, it was an awful game to watch, the idea of a solid and steady centre mid being the guy to come on and change things for us in the circumstances made me laugh, lighten up It’s gallows humour. I’m very lightened up. I’m just about to meet a rather hot young lady and spend the evening. I’m good, thanks.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Sept 23, 2017 17:57:41 GMT
Number of changes needed for Bury. We missed Ribiero today in my opinion. After today's performance this is would be my team on Tuesday. Ricardinho also looked off the pace. Eastwood Carroll Nelson Williamson Ricardinho Ledson Mowatt Payne Hall Henry Obika We are crap with 1 up front we can't perform, simple. Agree with this. But we don't even have 2 fit strikers do we. Unless we try playing Hall up top with Mehmeti. From todays performance Van Kessel didn't look very comfortable up top. Just kept flopping to the ground.
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Post by finlandia on Sept 23, 2017 18:00:17 GMT
GVK gave the worst performance I have seen in a very, very long time. He wandered, didn't track back, fell over all the time, first touch was appalling and his work rate was non existent.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 23, 2017 18:00:39 GMT
We are accommodating 3 central defenders. Like I said last week, Williamson needs to be rested with Mousinho moving in the centre with Nelson and bring Canice in at right back.
I'm not a fan of Henry as he lacks pace or skil, but he needs to start on the right with Hall moving to the left and Van Kessel on the bench at best.
Not sure who's going to go up top, especially with Thomas and Obika possibly both out, so maybe time for Mehmeti to come in and possibly Roberts on the bench.
Team full of crocks though!
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Post by joey on Sept 23, 2017 18:00:42 GMT
A terrible, lethargic performance. It was disappointing to see the lack of energy after a week off - Walsall were really up for it and we did not do much for most of the game. The players looked flat. I don't want to see Rothwell and Ledson in the midfield again as yet again, one or the other goes missing and the team stops playing. Ruffels may not do the sexy stuff, but he keeps the team ticking and must come back in on Tuesday. Mousinho is ok at right back, but I think a fit Ribiero has to come back into the team to help the team going forward. Henry needs to start the next game for me, not an eye popping performance but was involved in the all the best bits of we play we had in the 2nd half. Don't get the criticism of Gino at times. It was obvious from game 1 he wasn't a Hylton type runner, so expecting him to do so is asking a lot. Payne has really struggled in the last few games and I wonder if Mowatt would be a better option for a game or two to make the oppo plan for something different. The officials were terrible today. The ref spent more time in the centre circle than either midfield, and thus got so many decisions wrong because he was not up with play. But Walsall were smarter to his shiteness than we were. Not sure how their left back got away with fouling Hall all game and not getting booked. How many times did their left back foul Hall? I don't remember many. I hope that we don't look for such excuses when the game gets watched back. As you be said earlier, we were crap and need to take responsibility rather than look for any excuses. I certainly don't think they were that bad, booing them off at half time was ridiculous and seemed to stem from us not getting a free kick for Hall getting nudged in the corner and us only getting a throw at the end of the first half.
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Post by victor1986 on Sept 23, 2017 18:01:02 GMT
If that was a display after a week of"bonding" goodness knows what Tuesday will bring! From the very start you could see our body language was just not right. Pep is just too "nice" & his gentle approach needs to change if our fortunes are to improve - what's this about certain players needing to "toughen up"? GVK is hopeless & Jack Payne needs the proverbial "kick up the arse"!
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Post by 1OUFC on Sept 23, 2017 18:02:28 GMT
Lacking ideas, and the ability to pass so far. Still think we will win. Scrap that. Without eastwood that could have been a lot worse. If Darryl was gambling on promotion this season he might want to cash that bet in now. I still don’t think we’re to far away, but a lack of the type of players this formation needs means we struggle. Need a couple more pacey wingers, and a striker (possibly agon) in jan. To not have a single option up front from the bench is not good. Time for a return from ruffles maybe as well, we looked a lot more solid centrally earlier in the season. Hey ho. We go again Sorry, but for someone to say we're not too far away after those last two performances is silly. Did you see the games? We were as clueless for most of both games, as any Oxford team I have ever seen. This was typified by the ball van kessel couldn't be bothered to get to hurry a throw in up. He simply couldn't care less.
Walsall are a team running a poll whether to get rid of their manager, yet today, once they realised there was nothing to fear from us, they opened up, created space, passed the ball well and won at a canter in third gear. This is a side tipped to do nothing this year.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 23, 2017 18:06:48 GMT
We are an average l1 team. I haven't even got the energy to take the p*ss out of you and your little gang after that. Very worrying hearing the delusional complacency after the game from management and players. Some standards need to be set and urgently. I said so after the Blackpool game and reiterate the point now. I remember when shotton gave way to Mickey Lewis or somesuch, one player told me a few years later that it was like going from boot camp to holiday camp. As the players start to talk approvingly about their nice late weekend breaks I wonder if we are starting to see a similar breakdown in work ethic. Once that sets in it is formidably hard to sort out. Ur little gang. Charlie u really are a pompous idiot. Well done you u have predicted with ur superior footballing brain that we haven’t been to good in the last 2 games. My point was so what. It was u saying that we have a top six team, we have changed the model and brought in players to do it here and now- this season. Me ? Nope I’ve said from the start with all the changes that we will finish mid table. Guess where we are after 9 games ? Go on take a look ! We couldn’t get any more mid table/average l1 if we f*cking tried. Is it a disaster ? No? Do the owner and board need replacing with our very own white knight riding in on horse, to lead the club forward? No It’s an adjustment season, you might not like it. We might have some terrible games, you might say I’m a fool for settling for midtable mediocrity (spelt that without spell check 👀) but I really couldn’t give a shit. I will still be there supporting the team, rather than walking away from a home game chuckling to myself mawhaha I told them peasants on yellows forum we would lose again with out a dam good flogging from the manager what what. 😉
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 23, 2017 18:08:04 GMT
We were shite to put it simply.
Jack Payne might as well not been on the pitch as it wouldn't have made a difference and Gino did a good impression of not being a footballer. Most others weren't much better but Robbie Hall gets credit for being our only threat and Simon Eastwood was superb otherwise it would have a far bigger defeat.
Tyler Roberts looked very good today and has certainly developed in how to play at this level as well as physically.
Next game Gino on the bench again and Jack Payne on the bench as well with Mowatt and Henry starting.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 23, 2017 18:11:17 GMT
Scrap that. Without eastwood that could have been a lot worse. If Darryl was gambling on promotion this season he might want to cash that bet in now. I still don’t think we’re to far away, but a lack of the type of players this formation needs means we struggle. Need a couple more pacey wingers, and a striker (possibly agon) in jan. To not have a single option up front from the bench is not good. Time for a return from ruffles maybe as well, we looked a lot more solid centrally earlier in the season. Hey ho. We go again Sorry, but for someone to say we're not too far away after those last two performances is silly. Did you see the games? We were as clueless for most of both games, as any Oxford team I have ever seen. This was typified by the ball van kessel couldn't be bothered to get to hurry a throw in up. He simply couldn't care less.
Walsall are a team running a poll whether to get rid of their manager, yet today, once they realised there was nothing to fear from us, they opened up, created space, passed the ball well and won at a canter in third gear. This is a side tipped to do nothing this year.
I did see it thanks, but I also take into account these are the same players that only a few weeks ago people were creaming themselves about on here. Again I thought the tactics were wrong today. Made worse by taking obika off and playing gino up top on his own, a player we’ve seen that can’t do it, rather than changing the formation/tactic to suit what we do have available. I’ve seen something in every player on that pitch that says they are good enough. By we’re not far off i don’t mean from today’s performance or from Blackpool, I mean we just have to work out how and when to play them as a group. Something that is going to take time with a new manager and 15 new players.
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Post by 1OUFC on Sept 23, 2017 18:12:16 GMT
Big mistake not having a forward on the bench. Given our injury record I'd have started with Obika and used Gino as an impact sub. Plan B, if needed, would have been Nelson up front with Canice coming in a RB and Mous moving over. Yes, it means losing a midfielder, but we'd be in the last chance saloon at that point. We seem to have a team of crocs at present. Shame James Roberts couldn't have been on the bench. Someone mentioned earlier he has left the club. There is no way he could play at this level. He got sent back from a 6 month loan at a conference south side.
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Post by 1OUFC on Sept 23, 2017 18:13:42 GMT
Sorry, but for someone to say we're not too far away after those last two performances is silly. Did you see the games? We were as clueless for most of both games, as any Oxford team I have ever seen. This was typified by the ball van kessel couldn't be bothered to get to hurry a throw in up. He simply couldn't care less.
Walsall are a team running a poll whether to get rid of their manager, yet today, once they realised there was nothing to fear from us, they opened up, created space, passed the ball well and won at a canter in third gear. This is a side tipped to do nothing this year.
I did see it thanks, but I also take into account these are the same players that only a few weeks ago people were creaming themselves about on here. Again I thought the tactics were wrong today. Made worse by taking obika off and playing gino up top on his own, a player we’ve seen that can’t do it, rather than changing the formation/tactic to suit what we do have available. I’ve seen something in every player on that pitch that says they are good enough. By we’re not far off i don’t mean from today’s performance or from Blackpool, I mean we just have to work out how and when to play them as a group. Something that is going to take time with a new manager and 15 new players. After those performances I dream of us being an average league one side . As someone said we were well beaten by one today.
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Post by eighteen93 on Sept 23, 2017 18:14:57 GMT
A terrible, lethargic performance. It was disappointing to see the lack of energy after a week off - Walsall were really up for it and we did not do much for most of the game. The players looked flat. I don't want to see Rothwell and Ledson in the midfield again as yet again, one or the other goes missing and the team stops playing. Ruffels may not do the sexy stuff, but he keeps the team ticking and must come back in on Tuesday. Mousinho is ok at right back, but I think a fit Ribiero has to come back into the team to help the team going forward. Henry needs to start the next game for me, not an eye popping performance but was involved in the all the best bits of we play we had in the 2nd half. Don't get the criticism of Gino at times. It was obvious from game 1 he wasn't a Hylton type runner, so expecting him to do so is asking a lot. Payne has really struggled in the last few games and I wonder if Mowatt would be a better option for a game or two to make the oppo plan for something different. The officials were terrible today. The ref spent more time in the centre circle than either midfield, and thus got so many decisions wrong because he was not up with play. But Walsall were smarter to his shiteness than we were. Not sure how their left back got away with fouling Hall all game and not getting booked. Good point made concerning a chronic lack of energy shown by nearly all the team today. - but why was that? The U's body language today was also telling - not much leadership or passion when the chips were down - and the team looked to give in and that's criminal. It looked like a bunch of strangers out there who hadn't trained together, ever. Clotet comes across as complacent for me and worryingly laid back. Two or three more clueless performances like that and he will be under severe pressure. That and last week were two really poor performances and fans won't tolerate lacklustre displays for too long.No energy, no pace and no guts. The number of first and second balls we lost today was also staggering. The players should be in tomorrow am for a post mortem.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 23, 2017 18:16:01 GMT
I did see it thanks, but I also take into account these are the same players that only a few weeks ago people were creaming themselves about on here. Again I thought the tactics were wrong today. Made worse by taking obika off and playing gino up top on his own, a player we’ve seen that can’t do it, rather than changing the formation/tactic to suit what we do have available. I’ve seen something in every player on that pitch that says they are good enough. By we’re not far off i don’t mean from today’s performance or from Blackpool, I mean we just have to work out how and when to play them as a group. Something that is going to take time with a new manager and 15 new players. After those performances I dream of us being an average league one side . As someone said we were well beaten by one today. Totally agree. But it’s 1 game (ok 2 mr ghost before u wet ur knickers in excitement at pointing it out) and we have had as many games where we have been really good. = average l1 team
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Post by bicesterox on Sept 23, 2017 18:24:22 GMT
Beginning to wish I'd waited before spending £36 on Peterborough tickets
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Post by brassmonkey on Sept 23, 2017 18:26:51 GMT
I haven't even got the energy to take the p*ss out of you and your little gang after that. Very worrying hearing the delusional complacency after the game from management and players. Some standards need to be set and urgently. I said so after the Blackpool game and reiterate the point now. I remember when shotton gave way to Mickey Lewis or somesuch, one player told me a few years later that it was like going from boot camp to holiday camp. As the players start to talk approvingly about their nice late weekend breaks I wonder if we are starting to see a similar breakdown in work ethic. Once that sets in it is formidably hard to sort out. Ur little gang. Charlie u really are a pompous idiot. Well done you u have predicted with ur superior footballing brain that we haven’t been to good in the last 2 games. My point was so what. It was u saying that we have a top six team, we have changed the model and brought in players to do it here and now- this season. Me ? Nope I’ve said from the start with all the changes that we will finish mid table. Guess where we are after 9 games ? Go on take a look ! We couldn’t get any more mid table/average l1 if we f*cking tried. Is it a disaster ? No? Do the owner and board need replacing with our very own white knight riding in on horse, to lead the club forward? No It’s an adjustment season, you might not like it. We might have some terrible games, you might say I’m a fool for settling for midtable mediocrity (spelt that without spell check 👀) but I really couldn’t give a shit. I will still be there supporting the team, rather than walking away from a home game chuckling to myself mawhaha I told them peasants on yellows forum we would lose again with out a dam good flogging from the manager what what. 😉 Don't agree it's a adjustment season. It should be a season pushing on from last. Players who have left haven't been replaced with similar quality. Peps fault. Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 23, 2017 18:29:44 GMT
Ur little gang. Charlie u really are a pompous idiot. Well done you u have predicted with ur superior footballing brain that we haven’t been to good in the last 2 games. My point was so what. It was u saying that we have a top six team, we have changed the model and brought in players to do it here and now- this season. Me ? Nope I’ve said from the start with all the changes that we will finish mid table. Guess where we are after 9 games ? Go on take a look ! We couldn’t get any more mid table/average l1 if we f*cking tried. Is it a disaster ? No? Do the owner and board need replacing with our very own white knight riding in on horse, to lead the club forward? No It’s an adjustment season, you might not like it. We might have some terrible games, you might say I’m a fool for settling for midtable mediocrity (spelt that without spell check 👀) but I really couldn’t give a shit. I will still be there supporting the team, rather than walking away from a home game chuckling to myself mawhaha I told them peasants on yellows forum we would lose again with out a dam good flogging from the manager what what. 😉 Don't agree it's a adjustment season. It should be a season pushing on from last. Players who have left haven't been replaced with similar quality. Peps fault. Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards Quite possibly so, but add in the amount of them changed, and different ideas and approach from a new boss and I think ur asking a lot to instantly get a better finish than last year
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Post by pottersrightboot on Sept 23, 2017 18:33:15 GMT
Terrible body language at times. Still believe this is a talented squad but the lack of blood sweat and tears worrying. Walsall didn't have to do much to win.
Henry and Ruffels coming on improved the performance.
I like Mousinho, he's wasted at right back though.
I expect a reaction on Tuesday.
Ps - great penno by Ledson.
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Post by daveoufc on Sept 23, 2017 18:35:58 GMT
Team selection and tactics didnt help today worring that we seem to have a very weak underbelly.
I would get rothwell out of midfield the lad cant tackle too powder puff get Ruffs back in there win the ball keep us moving simple stuff. Dont play Nelson on the left ever choose between williamson or mouse to partner him play carroll at rb. Ginos a liability sarting on the wing at least hes harmless up top impact sub for now start henry.
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 23, 2017 18:45:07 GMT
GVK gave the worst performance I have seen in a very, very long time. He wandered, didn't track back, fell over all the time, first touch was appalling and his work rate was non existent. Come on, old boy. It's all positive! Certainly no need for a proper centre forward when your hero is in this form...
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Post by uptheus on Sept 23, 2017 18:48:47 GMT
Scrap that. Without eastwood that could have been a lot worse. If Darryl was gambling on promotion this season he might want to cash that bet in now. I still don’t think we’re to far away, but a lack of the type of players this formation needs means we struggle. Need a couple more pacey wingers, and a striker (possibly agon) in jan. To not have a single option up front from the bench is not good. Time for a return from ruffles maybe as well, we looked a lot more solid centrally earlier in the season. Hey ho. We go again Sorry, but for someone to say we're not too far away after those last two performances is silly. Did you see the games? We were as clueless for most of both games, as any Oxford team I have ever seen. This was typified by the ball van kessel couldn't be bothered to get to hurry a throw in up. He simply couldn't care less.
Walsall are a team running a poll whether to get rid of their manager, yet today, once they realised there was nothing to fear from us, they opened up, created space, passed the ball well and won at a canter in third gear. This is a side tipped to do nothing this year.
I don't think it's a case of Van Kessel doesn't care, I just think he's fairly clueless. He's like a person who thinks they can sing, but pick up bad habits and aren't that good either.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 23, 2017 18:49:39 GMT
GVK gave the worst performance I have seen in a very, very long time. He wandered, didn't track back, fell over all the time, first touch was appalling and his work rate was non existent. Come on, old boy. It's all positive! Certainly no need for a proper centre forward when your hero is in this form... Yet another dig Charles ? When I’ve been calling for a top striker for as long as u have. Remember the summer when I was saying moult or Lee Erwin would really add to the side. U must have missed that along we me never saying we would get promoted this season
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