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Post by ovaltoyou on Jul 26, 2017 17:19:16 GMT
So a 20% increase would give us a budget of £3.36m - Charlie reckons a top 6 budget is £3.5m. Not sure if transfer fees spent has any bearing on budget ranking. No, it doesn't. Transfer fees are a capital investment, which then turn into an asset (a player worth something). The playing budget is simply the wages of the playing staff. If that is going up to £3.6 million then we should be expecting another 4 to 5 major signings in the next few weeks. Exciting times!
Hope your right Charlie.
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Post by RCYellowRC on Jul 26, 2017 17:19:55 GMT
Surely Darryl speaking about a big budget now gives him 0 excuse for us not to spend and has put pressure on himself to deliver. I have a feeling that PEP has some big signing up his sleve in the next week or so.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 17:22:40 GMT
Surely Darryl speaking about a big budget now gives him 0 excuse for us not to spend and has put pressure on himself to deliver. I have a feeling that PEP has some big signing up his sleve in the next week or so. Well he's got plenty of room to store them there if he's wearing mapps training gear. This transfer window, de honesty, and club ambition will all be defined by the signings we make between now and the window shutting. If what we have so far is bulking up of the squad and the real big guns are about to come in, then I for one am bloody excited
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Post by followtheox (the original) on Jul 26, 2017 17:47:57 GMT
Maybe we haven't identified anyone that Pep wants to spend money on? Maybe there are talks ongoing including fee signings that we don't know about? Could be any number of reasons, but there's not really evidence that we aren't trying to spend money...or that there isn't money to spend. I think every Oxford fan would (/should) hope that we spend money on the right players rather than just spray it around because it's there to spend. Agree. I think that people need to just show a bit of patience. I have no doubts that there will be one or two quality players coming in (I assume there will be 2) plus maybe a couple of loan signings. In addition I assume that Roberts and Martin could be loaned out. At that stage we can look at the overall squad, the leaders in the squad, who will get the goals etc. At the moment the squad is not complete... I agree as well.
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Post by Barts on Jul 26, 2017 17:48:18 GMT
DE has definatly given the right answers and by this has given us lots too be excited about.... As they say, 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'.
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Post by grover on Jul 26, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
So a 20% increase would give us a budget of £3.36m - Charlie reckons a top 6 budget is £3.5m. Not sure if transfer fees spent has any bearing on budget ranking. No, it doesn't. Transfer fees are a capital investment, which then turn into an asset (a player worth something). The playing budget is simply the wages of the playing staff. If that is going up to £3.6 million then we should be expecting another 4 to 5 major signings in the next few weeks. Exciting times! Surely some of the budget should be held back for possible necessary additions to the squad in the winter transfer window rather than spend it all in the next few weeks?
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Post by bobsyouruncle on Jul 26, 2017 18:15:11 GMT
If this windfall is true then DE will have to likely offer more than 350K for players.
Clubs won't want to sell their prize assets just prior to the season starting, as they themselves will have to find suitable replacements late in the day.
I can see clubs turning our offers down but in all honesty I wonder how realistic our bids would be?
Top players in L1 are valued well in excess of 400K. Maybe we will have more luck in the loan market.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 18:16:49 GMT
If this windfall is true then DE will have to likely offer more than 350K for players. Clubs won't want to sell their prize assets just prior to the season starting, as they themselves will have to find suitable replacements late in the day. I can see clubs turning our offers down but in all honesty I wonder how realistic our bids would be? Top players in L1 are valued well in excess of 400K. Maybe we will have more luck in the loan market. That's going on the assumption that they are their top assets. Leeds have transfer listed Erwin, they want a fee for him. I doubt he will cost more than 400k and they won't have to find a replacement. It will only be top assets if we're buying from our level or lower (Scotland) if we're picking up players deemed not needed or not quite good enough at Championship or prem level, then we will be fine, as that's what we have been doing
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Post by barryspang on Jul 26, 2017 19:18:37 GMT
Leeds have said Erwin can leave on a free but want a sell on clause in the deal.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 26, 2017 19:20:02 GMT
Even better. Bite their hands off. Then we can spend £1m on someone 😉
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 26, 2017 19:50:25 GMT
Not a chance... I'd say we will have at least 2 more players before Oldham next week Hope your right Junior, the wage bill for a 27+ squad will stretch our finances for sure. Henry, Tiendalli, Xemi and Williamson didn't come cheap! 27+ players, crikey, how many youth are you including with that sized squad?
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 26, 2017 19:58:06 GMT
That's probably it now! Thought maybe one more plus two loans to come but we currently have a squad size of 27. That includes Stevens, Agboola, Baptiste, Napa and Ashby. Can you really count players who are unlikely to get a sniff at the bench, purely because they are not quite yet League 1 quality. Napa sounds really promising though , and maybe of that quality for this season, haven't seen him play yet. The others will probably get loaned out to get vital game time.
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Post by bobsyouruncle on Jul 26, 2017 20:04:56 GMT
That's probably it now! Thought maybe one more plus two loans to come but we currently have a squad size of 27. That includes Stevens, Agboola, Baptiste, Napa and Ashby. Can you really count players who are unlikely to get a sniff at the bench, purely because they are not quite yet League 1 quality. Napa sounds really promising though , and maybe of that quality for this season, haven't seen him play yet. The others will probably get loaned out to get vital game time. Well, they are on the wage bill and all listed as first team players on the club site! www.oufc.co.uk/teams/first-team/
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 26, 2017 20:35:30 GMT
I wonder how many hot dogs that increased budget will buy?
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Post by 1OUFC on Jul 26, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
Can you really count players who are unlikely to get a sniff at the bench, purely because they are not quite yet League 1 quality. Napa sounds really promising though , and maybe of that quality for this season, haven't seen him play yet. The others will probably get loaned out to get vital game time. Well, they are on the wage bill and all listed as first team players on the club site! www.oufc.co.uk/teams/first-team/I suppose it doesn't mean they are all part of the first team squad. Six of them will go out on loan, to get game time, not counting Caroll, maybe Napa as well, if he does look as promising as you and others say. Realistically the League 1 squad therefore is 21/22 in size. Add to that the expected LB and Striker, then size wise it will be looking really healthy, allowing for injuries.
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Post by nick68 on Jul 26, 2017 20:54:25 GMT
Why is everyone so obsessed in spending money on transfers, I'd be happy to spend nothing if Pep decides he doesn't need to. People forget that free transfers still cost. As for hoping we spend £1m on a player, surely that is bonkers as I for one would prefer sustainable transfer activity . Thank god some fans don't control the budget.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jul 26, 2017 21:09:15 GMT
Why is everyone so obsessed in spending money on transfers, I'd be happy to spend nothing if Pep decides he doesn't need to. People forget that free transfers still cost. As for hoping we spend £1m on a player, surely that is bonkers as I for one would prefer sustainable transfer activity . Thank god some fans don't control the budget. I was starting to think I was the only one thinking this!
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Post by makv on Jul 27, 2017 2:18:26 GMT
The reply's to Oxvox seem to suggest the budget will be 15-20% up on last years playing budget of £2.8m No idea how that stacks up for this division, or if it gets us in the fabled top 6 that some people seem so obsessed about Was also commented that transfer fees were available and would be on top of that budget All sounds very healthy, but proof will be in the pudding of course So a 20% increase would give us a budget of £3.36m - Charlie reckons a top 6 budget is £3.5m. Not sure if transfer fees spent has any bearing on budget ranking. No. Opex v Capex, basically.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 27, 2017 6:44:52 GMT
Why is everyone so obsessed in spending money on transfers, I'd be happy to spend nothing if Pep decides he doesn't need to. People forget that free transfers still cost. As for hoping we spend £1m on a player, surely that is bonkers as I for one would prefer sustainable transfer activity . Thank god some fans don't control the budget. Obviously don't understand emojis
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Post by lambchop on Jul 28, 2017 16:05:13 GMT
Why is everyone so obsessed in spending money on transfers, I'd be happy to spend nothing if Pep decides he doesn't need to. People forget that free transfers still cost. As for hoping we spend £1m on a player, surely that is bonkers as I for one would prefer sustainable transfer activity . Thank god some fans don't control the budget. Obviously don't understand emojis Aren't they like goths?
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Post by manorlounger on Jul 28, 2017 16:17:32 GMT
Obviously don't understand emojis Aren't they like goths? Only not so black....
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Post by lambchop on Jul 28, 2017 16:33:23 GMT
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Post by manorlounger on Jul 28, 2017 16:53:35 GMT
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Post by KLYellow on Jul 28, 2017 16:57:55 GMT
According to the Daily Mail (so it must be right ☺️) the average basic salary for a Div 1 player for 2014/15 season was 70,000GBP. So on a 20 man squad that equates to 1.4 million a year. You had to add on signing on fees, bonuses and appearance fees.
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